LivingSage:

1. This is what I said. You all like to ascribe what's not it to Islam BY FORCE.
2. Al-Hajj Talib 'Abdur-Rashid, imam of the Mosque of Islamic Brotherhood in Harlem, says the word jihad has its origin in the verb jahada which means to struggle, to fight. The word has a few different connotations, since struggle can occur on several levels.

goldenboyofpsy:
Their governor needs some brain resetting obviously... It's disturbing and inhumane to keeping reading ugly stories like this.

The Bassas will definitely want to fight back that's when security operatives will respond quickly to avert retaliation.

The most important duty of any responsible government is the protection of lives and properties. It's not a good sign when we loose our loved ones to avoidable deaths caused by senseless, selfish and incompetent leaders.

May the souls of the departed rest in peace. My prayers to the affected families.may God comfort you and give you the strength to carry on.

LivingSage:
We have times without number tell you people what contains in Qur'an, Hadith/Sunnah (deeds of the holy Prophet), siirat(stories) are quite different from their doings but you'll still refuse that it's not as if you know our Religion than us.
In Islam, u don't commit suicide, suicide bombers does! Do not kill a soul that is forbidden to be killed (meaning if you were not killed by people of other Faith, don't kill them), didn't they violate this law? Do not call any Muslim (that offers obligatory prayers) unbeliever, anyone that is not BH member are unbelievers! Who are we now deceiving? The Holy Prophet NEVER KILLED A SOUL, they NEVER fought a war then other than DEFENSIVE WAR. So they're doing what is not even preached and did by the holy Prophet (pbuh)

Secondly, Media are quick to name any tout Muslims terrorist but fails to do so for Christian touts. How many times as Americans shoots people in Texas alone not to talk of whole US! Were they called terrorist?! New zealander that shots dozens of Muslims to death was never named terrorist! You now see media and World hypocrisy.

LivingSage:
Don't mumu yourself, if Saudi Arabia where the Holy Prophet is from doesn't involve in that filthy, sinful act, who's now a brainwashed shekau that still kills Muslims praying in mosque? Who kills is own people in guise of not being straight ISLAMICALLY enough? Shut your mouth, you have no point

HazzanTazzan:


Another stupid question...

Times of war... he took up swords to fight and protect his people...

Keep talking in nonsense

HazzanTazzan:


To prove a point to your empty head...

The old testament bible contains more evil things preached than what youre pointing at in the quran but we are not pointing to them cos they were old times, times of war... but Christians hid it cos they are fullof hypocrisy...

The quran wasnt desecrated and we didnt remove anything from it in order to hide the things the religion did in the times of war ...

If we muslims shld start bringing the evil things did in the bible as contained in the old testament, do you think youd be able to defend those things?

HazzanTazzan:


I dont have time for such... even while staying home, im.working and making money..

It must be hard for you cos tithe ans offering arent coming into your purse for now

LegendHero:


I am telling you that all you’re saying is rubbish. My mom is a Christian and I know of bible verses that Christians don’t make reference to because it is toxic. Infact a lot of Christians are starting to shed off the Old Testament by bringing one quote that Jesus came for the new ones.

This is some verses in your bible:

God himself will kill tens of thousands if it pleases him: 1st Samuel 6:19 in the King James Version: “And he smote the men of Beth-shemesh, because they had looked into the ark of the LORD, even he smote of the people fifty thousand and threescore and ten men (50,070)”. Kill 50 000 men for looking at something?

open a new thread lets talk about them there.

You can kill a woman if she seizes a man's private parts without his permission: Deuteronomy 25:11-1: If two men are fighting and the wife of one of them comes to rescue her husband from his assailant, and she reaches out and seizes him by his private parts, you shall cut off her hand. Show her no pity.

Do not think that I have come to send peace on earth. I did not come to send peace, but a sword. I am sent to set a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law" (Matthew 10:34-35)

I tell you that to everyone who has, more shall be given, but from the one who does not have, even what he does have shall be taken away. But these enemies of mine, who did not want me to reign over them, bring them here and slay them in my presence. (Luke 19:26-27)

Have you followed the teaching of your God that tells you to slay innocent people?? Why are the Christians not practicing the Bible?

HazzanTazzan:


To prove a point to your empty head...

The old testament bible contains more evil things preached than what youre pointing at in the quran but we are not pointing to them cos they were old times, times of war... but Christians hid it cos they are fullof hypocrisy...

The quran wasnt desecrated and we didnt remove anything from it in order to hide the things the religion did in the times of war ...

If we muslims shld start bringing the evil things did in the bible as contained in the old testament, do you think youd be able to defend those things?

leksite120:
Lady, fighting wars is a natural thing then, so are u telling me if people are bringing war to ur people to kill them, you'll only sit and watch, the romans, Jew and even the Christians all fight war..

And also, u said e married a 7years old girl.
In order not to disgrace yourself, u should've known and learn more about them before u say anything.. The ancient Arabs have a gene of very rapid early growth ,so its their tradition, a 10yr old then looks like an eighteen year old of today, And moreover, even before the prophet arrived , its been their tradition for long, there was a sahabah(male) who gave birth at the age of 11years, now tell me, aw does an eleven year old boy impregnate, oya, is that possible this era? So, its an evidence that they have a very rapid growth then

LegendHero:


You are just saying nonsense on this thread and the senseless people like you are busy clicking like for your rubbish posts.

You are talking about the time of the prophet with is several thousands years ago where the world is a jungle and people needed to survive. It’s an issue of dynasty over dynasty and what was obtainable then is different from now.

You spoke about sword, what did Jesus disciple did when the soldiers came to arrest Jesus? Did he not use his sword to cut the ears of the soldiers?

The Hausas tend to be savages normally, we have seen cases where they kill other tribes enmasse and seen Fulani herdsmen kill people with such wickedness. It’s their culture.

HazzanTazzan:


I cry for you...

The prophet is never the one corrupting people into terrorism... its the sect leaders who have personal grudge against someone or a govt that twist the words of the prophet and impart it as knowledge into these people who see them as their leaders ...

Stop spreading falsehood abt islam... it wont make your Christianity a lottery ticket to heaven

HazzanTazzan:
@bukky244

Let me remind you some chapters in old testament of the bible have been put away...

Do you know why?

Pls tell us ... we are all hears

spiralwedge:


A good religion should be able to give itself to be reformed and reformed and reformed. Most World religions underwent that process, except this cult.
A reformation also means tolerance and peaceful coexistence with others. Only a cult won't want that, because it cannot stand that test.

A good religion will bounce back from scrutiny. But a cult will shy away from scrutiny, and that's where they turn even more violent. Now, that's it's more about political control, it will never allow itself to be reformed. They prefer to prey on their followers who more or less can't question the "holy" book..... Just like in any cult

Lavisha:

I read that too.
After he ate the lamb, his followers did eat too.
Then Mohammed said he knew the lamb was poisoned cos the meat told him so.
Meanwhile his followers were puzzled and lost for words cos they'll do whatever moha does, not long enough they all died like rats except for Mohammed who died a horrible death, even Gabriel couldn't save him.

spiralwedge:


The power of the cult is shrouded in keeping their followers ignorant and making the contradictory book absolute on all ways of life, either it is appealing to common sense, archaic or not. That's the hold. So, it can't be reformed, otherwise it will collapse because it has no tangible basis in the first place.

Abdulhakeem78:


Let me start with this Ma, your submission above is displayed with impression to take lsam down. Before the advent of modern medicine, every society had ways of dealing with illness either by using correct or wrong avenue, Muslims weren't exempted from this just like fore fathers in Yorubaland were used to use the urine of horses to fight chronic fever. Let me use myself as an example, I used to experience very severe cold when I was 8 or 9, my grandma came from the village to meet me in this condition after medical attention wasn't successful. She went back to the village to got the original of this urine and was mixed with the seed of unreap pawpaw and within some period of time the cold reduced to bearest minimum and with time everything became the thing of a past. From the inception of humans, there have been one or two solutions to problems that faced human beings regarding their health status. The question is how many Muslims still use this to treat their ailments since science has improved some other things to be used. Prophetic medicines other this are very much available to be used.
Your submission regarding Hajj and perhaps Ummra shows you don't know the right things regarding the two. When one of the companions of the Prophet ( May Allah mercy be upon him) came to the black stone that you mentioned, he said, if not that I saw the Apostle of Allah that kissed you, you are nothing but a stone. The scholar of Islam brought many beneficial things from it. One of these is that , Muslims are not to worship any other things expect Allah, the most mighty. Another thing is that, if the companion has left the black stone, it has nothing to do with what is expected of a Muslim to do in Hajj and Ummra. Let me give an example that you would understand easily, a person that doesn't perform abulution before commencing his or her sollah has no sollah but a person can decide not to observe any additional prayer before the commencement of the compulsory prayer. Within this, people aren't going to Hajj and Ummra because of the black stone but to fulfil the commandment of Allah that has stipulated it. Again, you can go to Mecca without visiting the Prophet's mosque in Medina and someone's hajj is intact., insha Allah.
Ma, as for your last submission attacking the Apostle of Allah ( May Allah mercy be upon him). I know you would like reading many stuffs. Please, read about Lina Medina of Ticrapo of Peru and come back to argue on the age of Our mother Aysha ( May the blessings of Allah be upon her). Sorry for the long epistle.

HazzanTazzan:


Get some sense ... i have judiciously clarified everything in that verse but your bigotry wont let you rest

Lavisha:

hehehehe, revelation in seizures too?!
allahu akbaru!!

Abiamaka:

Get your self a sense
dont say what you dont know about

HazzanTazzan:


Now i know you have no sense...

Exact same way those religious leader copy out a single verse to lure illiterates like you into their own vendetta is what you just did...

You copy out a single verse without reading where its coming from...

That was the prophet being asked some questions by his disciples...

In that context (period when idol worshippers are constantly bringing war to the Muslims), fighting for the cause involves fighting wars to protect muslims just like other prophets did in their times...

Fighting for the cause during war times only meant "fight those who bring war to your home, to protect your people"... not killing innocent people for personal and political vendetta loke terrorists are doing...

And nowadays that there are no such wars, fighting for the cause "jihad" doesnt even involve any of such fights.

See ehn, you (as you idiots always do) can only try this rubbish of lifting a single verse without the prior verse with someone who's ignorant of the Quran... NOT ME

Lavisha:

what??
Mohammed foamed on sighting a cross?!!!

Lavisha:

hehehehehe.

Any sane man won't do that but headslammers?
They are worse than wyverns.

yungchop:

You talk like a kid, your sense of reasoning is low. What a dumb person you are. So hatred didn't let you know that other Muslim dominated countries followed the guidelines, even Saudi Arabia where Islam originated from had to close kaabah for the first time in history and suspend pilgrimage.

I repeat, you're a dumb and foolish thing.

HazzanTazzan:



Are u so stupid?

Who told you jihad means fighting and violence...

"Fight for a cause"... does that statement mean you will fight physical fight or get violent?

I can now see ure an empty head

LivingSage:
Yes, you can marry someone down at very tender age. This is what you don't seems to understand, their puberty/growth rate in Arabian country is different from ours here.
Meanwhile, European countries and even in the East, I've read news on such.

Lavisha:

Just like Mutallab the renowned abokki banker, his son still wanna blow up a US plane after all the Education he got from the West.
Headslammers are bastard sons of terror.

BecaciaBarbie:

Your points are extremely impressive and you type so well....hats off!

LivingSage:
Bukola o
Well I'm not d s. e. x. you think I am. Faceless forum
Meanwhile, you are becoming sarcastic?

HazzanTazzan:


Smh...

Islam doesnt preach violence... get that into your head.

I can read and understand it perfectly...

The idiots that are being used as tools for violent cant read and understand Arabic and they cant even read and understand English translations cos their leaders dont want them to get educated...

If u see any other person who is a literate abd can read and understand at least Engliah but still joined terrorism, he/she has scores to settle with someone and thus decided to use terrorism