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Ugosample:
I can't believe a sensible person is comparing life in Nigger Africa to America

MOST Africans are just existing
And breeding themselves into deeper poverty

I travel to a good number of countries
I see with my eyes

you think Nigeria own bad?

come Liberia and see how human beings are living like rats
Sierra Leone nko?

from the aiporrt aef you know that those niggers have signed a permanent pact with poverty and hopelessness


one can decide to be delusional

comparing America to Nigger Africa....

It's an insult

U r on the other side of timesup234. U r both extremes. The truth is somewhere in between

Saintp:
Hahahahahahahahahaha. This is freaking hilarious

Hilarious but true. If u had no data or electricity you’d be doing something more meaningful right now like interacting with your family or friends instead of basically wasting time on NL

lynx200:
The aim of every civilized society is to ensure that a large percentage of the population can afford the necessities of life and have some extra to enjoy some luxuries. This is what the USA, Western Europe, South Korea and Japan have accomplished. There is a lot of debt in these societies which is a fact and the taxes are high but that's the price they are willing to pay for having 80% of the population on at least middle class levels who can afford a university education, live in a house, drive a new car and take a vacation. The taxes are a means of supporting the infrastructure needs of the society and ensure things work unlike in Nigeria where nobody pays taxes and things don't work.

The Op is right when he says that many Westerners live on debt (research has shown there is only USD500 cash for every individual American. The rest is credit!) but its this credit system that is the reason for the stability in these countries. This is something the Chinese government after years of export led growth wants to see happen in their society with their emphasis on domestic consumption.

The thing about Africa and other developing regions is that the cash based economy promotes inequality with a few rich people and masses of poor people. This was the situation in Europe before World war 2. The lack of a credit system to get a home or car is why we drive second hand cars which on the long run cost more to maintain than new cars and rent houses. This is also why many business that deal with non essentials find it difficult to survive here as many people have to survive daily in this country.

But on the flip side, its much easier to get rich than in developed countries as there are still many things and features taken for granted over there that is sorely lacking here and anybody who has the balls to venture into them will hit it big. As for the sentiments expressed here, it's every individual's prerogative to choose what he/she wants. Go getters who are innovative and want to strike it big will easily be pissed with the Western economic model and prefer turbulent countries like Nigeria where they can set up businesses. But for those who just want to live a quiet life and don't want all the money in the world (Good job, meritocracy, good pay, a house and a car with some money for vacation etc) without bothering about electricity or security of live as well as the rule of law, the Western economic model of credit and 50% taxation is a good pay off for that.

Thoughtful and well written (I also like your signature BTW). BUT I see some people here making it, starting businesses, building houses, etc. And I know for sure that if they were in the West such people would be living paycheck to paycheck, carrying credit card debt, and barely able to keep up with all the countless bills. So timesup234 also has a point.

Saintp:
Constant electricity has serious disadvantages? Did you just say this ?How would Nigeria ever develop with this kind of mentality? Local man is shocked

Why do u think the West has low birth rate for example? When there is no electricity people do things other than watching tv, internet, and other electronic stuff. It gives them a “break”

babytoun:
Now they are saying the residency status of the mother at the time of birth must be taken into consideration at the time of birth .

simply put a visiting mother is only PRESENT in the states but not a RESIDENT , to this end the child though born in the united states is not qualified . This will require higher legal interpretations but the letter of the amendment makes that clear.

The link is the one you provided above. it is an 11 page pdf document which i read .


https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/files/policymanual/updates/20190828-ResidenceForCitizenship.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwjdu9bfwKzkAhXeVBUIHZUGCYMQFjANegQIChAB&usg=AOvVaw0KjKKIDIzH3ZAjDuz3enhg “

All that is bureaucratic mombo jumbo. Bottom line is, if u manage to have your child in the US that child will get a US passport when he applies for one - all he needs is his birth certificate. The State Dept will not be asking how long his mother or father stayed in US.

babytoun:
i think they are ready to test the word "RESIDE" in court taking into cognizance the intent of the framers of the constitution then

But that’s just an added bonus. In US states can make their own laws. That statement simply makes it clear they can’t make a law denying such people citizenship of the state.

Racoon:
See where asslicking have landed this man.Cleaning gutter as special adviser.Is his Wharf Landing Fees Collection job not a better offer?

The Sanwo guy will appoint him finance commissioner just to teach u guys a lesson

babytoun:
I had maintained that the policy does not affect those traveling travelling to the US to have their babies until i downloaded the pdf file in this link and read it thoroughly .

I cant find any reference to the 6 weeks requirement to prove residency as even the document cited a 2 month stay that was not sufficient to prove residency .

From what i see except this is challenged in court and set aside they are saying you cant just travel down have a baby and return to you country and have citizenship and residency status given to your child .

except if anyone has a better explanation for the excerpts below

Bottom line is that the constitution is very clear and gives no room for further interpretation:

The Citizenship Clause is the first sentence of the Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution, which was adopted on July 9, 1868. It states verbatim:
"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside."

BTW kudos on your research, could u give a link

I don’t think this is right

ahiboilandgas:
tell hotel operators

They will procure solar, inverter, generator. Problem solved

planetx:
And your credit will be ruined for those 7 years, you wouldn't be able to rent an apartment talkless of financing a car or mortgage.

But who has credit in Naija. Who needs credit. U only need credit if u must borrow money and is borrowing money such a good thing? There are all sorts of ways to rent apartment or get anything if u have money

ahiboilandgas:
I tire ooh kano,Katsina and jigawa have had no electricty supply for 9 day cos the distribution company kedco has been unable to pay for power supplied by genco..tell me wort sort of life is this if not wacked

But people will adapt and may end up happier than those with electricity. Human beings are very adaptable.
Constant electricity is also not good.

Saintp:
Make this timesup234 no go kill himself for America and abroad matter ooo. I never seen somebody that is this bitter about something that is not his problem.
Over 20 threads lamenting about America, dem use America swear for this guy?

Lol, he has a point though. Every place has pros and cons. Some advantages are also disadvantages. Even constant electricity has serious disadvantages. Timesup234 u r becoming famous

Now I’m craving palm wine

truthsayer009:
Actually YES. That is the only way.

Not true. All these Ibo $ millionaires nko

adonainana:
I lived in the UK for 10 years, I agree i think only when you think carefully and deeply would you appreciate some countries and some ways of life. Here in the UK, I found out that there are only 2 achievements the average man can achieve. The first is getting a Mortgage and the second is passing your driving test .

I couldnt tell how many of my friends celebrated these two major achievements year in year out

People of God, how is borrowing £300,000 (150 million naira) from a bank and paying it monthly back over 30 years an achievement ni tori olorun. How is that an achievement ?

How is passing your driving test where you will end up taking more of your disposable income an achievement for Heaven sake.

After 11 years in the Uk, i decided it was time to call it quit.

Some people will simply pay bills and die in the west and will even be owing funeral tax by the time there reletives want to bury.

The good roads, schools, water etc is an illusion, there are good schools everywhere on the planet. There are equally good roads everywhere on the planet

The Uk an US are extremely useless countries to be in sometimes

This is my opinon sha

Funny but somewhat true sha. U can be extremely unhappy anywhere. U can also be “trapped” anywhere including 9ja. Timesup234 agrees with u

adonainana:
I repeat anyone in the UK on a £60,000 takes home only £3000 per month ( The tax band for earners between earning between £46,000 to £150,000 comes in between 40 %) There is no escaping it, its a matter of legislation put down in law.

The only way you can avoid paying your tax in the UK is if you illegally use someones else National Insurance No similar to the Social Security Number in the USA.

Please ask your auditors, engineers friends that would they mind telling me thier Tax code as written on thier monthly payslips, i will tell them how much they earn monthly, they will think i am a sorcerer.

I repeat the net pay ( the final money that goes into your account if you are on a £60,000 salary ) is £3000.

£3,000 is not a lot of money, infact people like that will still end up Paying bills and just dying like that.

I never said Majority of Nigerians are living better than Majority of people living in the west.

My point was in my 11 years of living in the west, i have seen Middle class UK people being unable to afford what Midlle Class Nigerians can afford

Even if we use the example of this your auditor friend you claim earns £60,000. He is a very high extremely high earner by UK standards, he is not even Middle class by UK standards. Yet all he earns after tax is just £3,000 ( 1.5 million naira per month )

How does it sound that someone classed as a High earner earns what most Middle class Nigerians make per month. Hope you have started to understand where i am coming from

More or less this your auditor friend, he has not even deducted his rent, car, petrol, etc etc from this net pay of £3,000 he has just made.

So sir do you see where i am coming from, this your £60,000 friend is actually poor if we look deep down at it constructively sir

You see this hospital this, this good road that, please just leave it to one side cos i wonder where on the planet are there not roads and hospitals

You have a point. Not only that, the 9ja guy will have two maids, a driver, gateman, while the UK guy can’t even afford a maid

BigBashiru:
Stop trying to justify the failures of a shithole country.. .. that all black majority countries are failures speaks I'll of the black man. Stop trying to excuse or justify the failure of Nigeria in having proper healthcare.

There is a public healthcare system where you are covered as a resident citizen and then there is private health insurance. Calling an ambulance is covered or at the very least subsidized under public health insurance. It's also covered under private. Nigger land countries are all fked up cos even the insurance companies won't pay for the ambulance even after u hv paid premium for years. And even when the ambulance is called the driver will be non chalant. The drivers / motorists won't clear for the ambulance to pass.

Black Africans just hide your faces in shame and stop trying to justify your glaring failures....

Black Africans? Are u a white American??

alphaNomega:
Have they told you what their hospital bills look like after an emergency? There was a woman that got into an auto crash (I can't recall the state in USA) and she kept screaming, "Please don't call the ambulance!"

Healthcare is expensive anywhere in the world. You don't want to have a medical emergency too.

In America, you might survive it with life crippling debt (some people commit suicide over such debt). In a country like Nigeria, you might die straight away

Lol but not true. In US that woman will sue somebody and get millions. Besides all debt in US disappear after 7 years or u can declare bankruptcy and they disappear immediately like magic

KingAzubuike:
I don't think otedola was ever a dollar billionaire he was always hanging between $700M - $900M. Same with Tony elumelu and co.. I think the only dollar billionaire we've had in the last decade is dangote. I might be wrong tho

In this day of google u don’t have to guess. Adenuga is closing in on Dangote. See below

NothingDoMe:
Did you see that in the policy?!! I sent you the actual policy and you are still quoting Linda Ikeji? For real?

Bros there are discussions all over the internet, people hyperventilating that 6 weeks presence is now required for US born to become citizen. You posted a link of USICS clarifying what “residency” means. I posted a statement that such a requirement would be unconstitutional. Decide for yourself which one resolves the issue.
Here is your post again:

“You got it right. However Linda didn't get the full scope of the policy.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/files/policymanual/updates/20190828-ResidenceForCitizenship.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwjdu9bfwKzkAhXeVBUIHZUGCYMQFjANegQIChAB&usg=AOvVaw0KjKKIDIzH3ZAjDuz3enhg “

Stay blessed

livebyday:
Let me explain.. aome like Mr Otedola the Nigerian billionaire will cry he is broke if his wealth falls to let's say $2 billion same with Dangote. If they cry they are broke to them it's the truth it's not false .

Cheers

But Otedola has fallen to a measly $300m yet I don’t see him crying (See below)

ahiboilandgas:
There notting wrong in buying a car on credit once their is the cash flow to support it ,There notting bad in mortgage once their is cash flow and jobs oppurnity to support it....paying cash for everthing is responsible for massive corruption and criminality in Nigeria .....imagine a person on a 200k salary hoping to build a house of 15m ....or buy a new car of 7m this recipe for disaster....

Not only that, u may rent that house or use that car for Uber which will be bringing in more money than money borrowed

opebiboy:
even before i open this post I knew you were going to park here. You are a clown. But on the real Americans are not rich, they just enjoy a better standard than us. I have been there and it was very far from what I expected. But your views are always to the extreme

U and timesup234, ok let’s do a direct comparison. Soldiers are provided everything including housing. Their salary is for their pocket:
Let’s compare US vs 9ja starting salary as a soldier

That’s what I keep telling people: money and good infrastructure and constant electricity does not necessarily translate to happiness. You may have all these but still find you are unhappier than u were in 9ja - unhappy to the point of suicide.

reformedCute:
I entered for a giveaway. and I need 100 likes on my video to qualify

Hard to understand that’s what u mean. Why not state it clearly

NothingDoMe:
That's not what the policy is about. Have you read the link I provided on the policy?

I appreciate your providing a link but your link does not address what the OP posted (See below) which people have been commenting about:

Non-citizens are also expected to stay for at least 6 weeks in the US before their children born in the country will be considered citizens.

Chuchu42:
Too much buzz for this
America.. Wetin sef...

Because, hate’m as u want, America is the coco wether we like it or not

PureGoldh:
God no go gree bro

Badboy92 so na poor people dey travel go b4. Sounds like “A billion here, a billion there and soon u r talking real money”

This guy? Really?