Stop demonizing people just for daring to come forward This is not about Fato. Fato will be fine. Ask yourself if it were your daughter or sister making these allegations would u be talking like this. Stop trying to destroy people for coming forward. If victims are scared into never daring to come forward the practice will continue and grow till it gets to someone close to u.
Pasima: ( I don't have words for you bitch but i assure you that your future will be full of suffering, you will forever suffer and you'll never get married and even if you do, it'll be the biggest mistake of your life, your future will be ruined and nothing good will ever come to you, you will lack in every aspect, that school you are boasting about, you will never be able to graduate and you will continue to sell all your stuffs just to make ends meet, it shall never be well with you from this day and in the future, Just mark my words, your life will forever be miserable and worthless, your suffering has just begun, bye bitch.)
Don’t mind the useless winch. Unbelievable she’d do something like that. I mean, who would believe she’s capable of such, looking at her. Makes u wonder if some of these women are actually human. It’s just amazing how low some of them would go. UNBELIEVABLE!
CanadaOrBust: Apology accepted. So let’s now have cordial discussion like matured people, without gratuitous name calling and ad hominem insults.
Please realize that COZA is not the first at this by any stretch - pastors have been caught red handed in all sorts of things and sometimes convicted yet church members always rallied around them, insisting they were innocent, it was just persecution. This has been happening since forever. A pastor was even convicted of murder, same thing - church members demonstrated outside calling for immediate release of a holy, innocent man.
I see u have not watched the videos. Try watching them - u will hear a first person account of rape:
As far as Ilorin all I saw and read was that Fato was expelled for activities such as these, but u say otherwise. Fine.
MOTIVE - u didn’t provide any
Please study the below. Do u really believe they were totally made up?:
{In a tweet posted Friday night, Stella mentioned the story of an unidentified lady she has known for 15 years, who also shared her rape experience with Fatoyinbo. “I am in tears right now. Just got off the phone with someone I have known for 15 years. She had the same experience with this same pastor. The details of her experience were so shocking. She told people around him, but they all suppressed it. Are people still doubting this incident?”, Stella who is now based in New York wrote.} ———————— {Dakolo said, “My brother was angry so he took a pocket knife and dragged me to His (Fatoyinbo) house. Immediately he saw my brother and I coming, he (Fatoyinbo) quickly came out of His house and said Busola! Busola! What’s the matter? “My brother’s name is Tunde, he was very mad and told Fatoyinbo, I am going to stab you and kill you, what did you do to her?
“He (Fatoyinbo) started begging saying I’m sorry, I don’t know what came over me was just the devil. At that time someone was around, a minister Wole, He is the pastor of the Port Harcourt branch now. Then he wasn’t a pastor, he was a minister in church like prayer minister so he said we should all go to my house. “My brother and I went back home and then they came to our house and called another minister. He (Fatoyinbo) started begging saying he didn’t know what came over him, I just stood there and couldn’t say anything.
“Meanwhile the minister who was Wole Soetan and another minister Flow (Folarin Ogunsola) who is my second cousin. They talked and begged me but I wasn’t listening to anything they were saying because all that was on my mind is that I cannot get back my virginity because it’s been done and the way I think right now, you don’t know my state. “I told my brother then that I want to leave the church because I wasn’t listening to the word anymore and I told Wole that I want to leave the church. He too when he heard said he was going to leave the church.”}
[quote author=Neddstark post=81582057][/quote]Apology accepted. So let’s now have cordial discussion like matured people, without gratuitous name calling and ad hominem insults.
Please realize that COZA is not the first at this by any stretch - pastors have been caught red handed in all sorts of things and sometimes convicted yet church members always rallied around them, insisting they were innocent, it was just persecution. This has been happening since forever. A pastor was even convicted of murder, same thing - church members demonstrated outside calling for immediate release of a holy, innocent man.
I see u have not watched the videos. Try watching them - u will hear a first person account of rape:
As far as Ilorin all I saw and read was that Fato was expelled for activities such as these, but u say otherwise. Fine.
MOTIVE - u didn’t provide any
Please study the below. Do u really believe they were totally made up?:
{In a tweet posted Friday night, Stella mentioned the story of an unidentified lady she has known for 15 years, who also shared her rape experience with Fatoyinbo. “I am in tears right now. Just got off the phone with someone I have known for 15 years. She had the same experience with this same pastor. The details of her experience were so shocking. She told people around him, but they all suppressed it. Are people still doubting this incident?”, Stella who is now based in New York wrote.} ———————— {Dakolo said, “My brother was angry so he took a pocket knife and dragged me to His (Fatoyinbo) house. Immediately he saw my brother and I coming, he (Fatoyinbo) quickly came out of His house and said Busola! Busola! What’s the matter? “My brother’s name is Tunde, he was very mad and told Fatoyinbo, I am going to stab you and kill you, what did you do to her?
“He (Fatoyinbo) started begging saying I’m sorry, I don’t know what came over me was just the devil. At that time someone was around, a minister Wole, He is the pastor of the Port Harcourt branch now. Then he wasn’t a pastor, he was a minister in church like prayer minister so he said we should all go to my house. “My brother and I went back home and then they came to our house and called another minister. He (Fatoyinbo) started begging saying he didn’t know what came over him, I just stood there and couldn’t say anything.
“Meanwhile the minister who was Wole Soetan and another minister Flow (Folarin Ogunsola) who is my second cousin. They talked and begged me but I wasn’t listening to anything they were saying because all that was on my mind is that I cannot get back my virginity because it’s been done and the way I think right now, you don’t know my state. “I told my brother then that I want to leave the church because I wasn’t listening to the word anymore and I told Wole that I want to leave the church. He too when he heard said he was going to leave the church.”}
Neddstark: The lunatic is obviously masturbating daily on this matter. Something you have no 100% proof about. I remember you on saynotocultism's thread. So the DSS man should also confess how he promoted cultism then. One thing that is sure is that I know people whose life has been changed by Coza and Fatoyinbo. despite his flaws has contributed more to the kingdom of Christ, than you has ever done. I will not argue with you anymore about this. If you were alive in Joseph's time, you would have condemned Joseph too for being a rapist. Lowmind like you.
I never condemned anybody and I never argued with u. It’s all in your head. I simply politely presented what we know for sure, conceding we will never know what really happened. U r the one full of insults and name calling, full of words like “masturbating”, “clown”, “lunatic”. Here is what I said again. Say which part is not true:
“Look, I don’t know if Fato is guilty or not. I was not there. I DO NOT KNOW. But there are things I do know: 1) He said he’s never been in a room alone with Bukola. People do not believe that and if he’s lying about that, well, you have to wonder what else he’s lying about 2) Other women have come forward with accusations against him including the two below 3) He was chief priest of a cult that sometimes used rape for initiation and sometimes murdered rivals 4) MOTIVE: what else would be Bukola’s motive for putting herself and family through all this”
Neddstark: This clown. Dont you ever get tired of masturbating over this matter? Shey Fatoyinbo rape your sister and your future wife too? Abeg focus on better things on your life
You shoulda asked if Timi was my uncle or Buko my sister, u forgot to consider that angle But seriously, as long as they keep bringing it to front page, if I see it, I’d keep putting in my two cents without insulting anyone or convicting anyone. But it’s not only me, here are what others posted (regular people, not the usual paid agents or COZA People, like u):
“If a woman braves public humiliation to come out to openly say a man raped her, she deserves a hearing. More so if there are other women are also accusing the the same man... and the man used to be the high priest of a cult that sometimes used rape for initiation!”
“One striking thing about these CONSENSUAL SEX proponents is that they have forgotten something called statutory rape - that Pastor Fatoyinbo was SUPPOSED to be pastor and spiritual father to then YOUNG AND NAIVE BUSOLA. Careful GROOMING made it appear like consensual sex. Betrayal of trust on the part of a pastor should be condemned.”
“There are other more prominent pastors. Ask yourself why this particular one is the one being accused by several women.”
“Fatoyinbo was the high priest of a cult in Ilorin. You can’t attain such position without killing people. He should kindly confess how many people he killed.”
“Once a cultist is always a cultist , forget either pastor or no pastor”. (I do not necessarily agree with this. I put it here to show that such view exists)
“To think that people are still attending that church”
“These COZA people posting all these stuff, what they are doing is that they are making sexually abused women afraid to ever come forward. And they’d pay the price because they’d eventually personally face such a situation one by one (karma being karma).”
Such a beautiful family and those daughters... now I think I know why she had to come forward. Look, I don’t know if Fato is guilty or not. I was not there. I DO NOT KNOW. But there are things I do know: 1) He said he’s never been in a room alone with Bukola. People do not believe that and if he’s lying about that, well, you have to wonder what else he’s lying about 2) Other women have come forward with accusations against him including the two below 3) He was chief priest of a cult that sometimes used rape for initiation and sometimes murdered rivals 4) MOTIVE: what else would be Bukola’s motive for putting herself and family through all this
CrimeKsmart: The sin of just less than 100 people(ipob terrorists) will be borne by 200millions individuals.
Look forward to more cancellation of business transactions, more relocation of businesses away from here, more scrutiny and denial of entry for Nigerians by countries around the world, more xenophobia attacks, less scholarship and grants for Nigeria students, denial of access to some online applications... The ripple effect is just endless....
Buhari pls let them go
Letting them go won’t solve the problem. Before now everyone thought South West had the most scammers. See the vote below
sparog: So because people have been stating the fact that most of the folks FBI arrested are Igbos, someone has gone ahead to unearth cases about Yorubas. One of the cases even happened as far back as 2014.
I love dis nairaland aswear
No, the scamming is Nigerians as a whole. But before now everyone thought South West the most scammers. See the vote below
Investigation or no investigation I’ll never say Fato is guilty or not. I was not there. I DON’T KNOW! But there are things I do know: 1) He said he’s never been in a room alone with Bukola. People do not believe that 2) Other women have come forward with accusations against him 3) He was chief priest of a cult that sometimes used rape for initiation and sometimes murdered rivals 4) MOTIVE: what else would be Bukola’s motive for putting herself and family through all this
cooltola: I still trying to understand why someone will come to America knowing how difficult it is to come to USA and do fraud where there are countless opportunities to make money legit.
Because those countless opportunities involve working instead of chilling with your niggaz. Do u now understand?
DDeliverer: Look at this thief talking...Which yahooBoy is greater than oshiomole? A village man that milked Edo dry and now has properties everywhere in Nigeria and even outside Nigeria...
EvangelistMFM: Whatever we sow we reap...In this times,we need total submission and fear of God and we need 100% endurance...Situations in this country is making people run helter skelter doing all kind of dubious jobs..
God help us all...See the picture below,it is only an insane person that will condescend low and date a woman old enough to be his grandmother..Just cos of money see what this young man is doing
sowilli: to address the problem we need to start from tribe. This is where you guys get it wrong. Will you attack a Yoruba for a crime committed by majorly Fulani herdsman. The Igbos have a problem that needs to be addressed from home. This problem needs to be addressed from home!
No it is Nigerians as a whole. It is because u r only viewing this one instance. If u look at all the scams u will see it is every tribe. Which really baffles me because there is no such thing as Nigerian - it is man-made. Yet there is a distinct Nigerian personality and it is scammish