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chatinent:
Excuse me, if the US. does not approve of a medication, it cannot be used? Who da hell are the US?

What a dumb question. US approved something invented by a US company!

puremaker7:
hmm...partially agreed with u, but the fact remain that our health sector is not ready and can handle shit let just pray their wont be an outbreak.

Well, malaria does not kill us yet kills others. Now it’s been found that chloroquine, a malaria medicine, mitigates corona. Maybe corona will also be like malaria and not kill us. See below

OtemAtum:
Go into the BOOK OF UNIVERSAL HISTORY, read and understand. Until then, you don't really stand a chance. I need your full knowledge to qualify you for having an argument with me, or what are we gonna be arguing about when you're ignorant of the histories in the UNIVERSAL BOOK?

If your book does not rhyme with science, and is not scientific, what exactly is it?

OtemAtum:
Lol. You made my day with your self- proclamation You didn't even near first ten of the people who gave a reasonable argument with me

See the summary of your problem back then below:

The problem you are having and the complications you seem to be experiencing is based on the fact that you haven't read the BOOK OF UNIVERSAL HISTORY to understand every concept intoto. The Book of Universal History contains more than 4 billion years of histories, so you should be expecting different things to have happened within such long spans that only reading it whole can help you not to get confused, but as usual, I will try as much as possible to break everything down.

Science has delineated EVERYTHING that happened from the moment of the Big Bang. Unless u r writing your own science. Once again use that scientific timeline to explain to us how 4-story sized visitors were on earth billions of years ago!

puremaker7:
weather is not helping anything, the problem we have in nigeria is that we always like to hide the truth, the fact is people were not exposed to corona b4, nd again many people are currently carrier of this virus right now but they don't know yet, believe me or not the next 2 to 3 weeks will be hard because we don't have what it takes to fight this thing.
ordinary stay at home many people cant do it because they will be starved to death.

If it weren’t for our weather, hot sun, and malaria thousands of Nigerians will be dead by now.
Kyari would have given it to Buhari and many governors and senators. Same for the Italian guy.

Of course weather matters, even in Italy the warmer southern regions are ok - didn’t u read of Nigerians having a full blown wedding yesterday in the same Italy that 967 people just died in 24hrs?!

Personally, I believe thousands of Nigerians may have or may have had corona, only that they don’t know it because it doesn’t make Nigerians that sick!
I suspect the death rate among Nigerians living permanently in Nigeria is zero and will continue to be close to zero.

About closing everything down, below is an argument I presented to a guy:
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Ok, it is established fact that AT MOST we’d lose less than 2% of those who get this virus (though currently it is 0% for Nigerians permanently living in Nigeria!). 80% of those who get the virus either never have symptoms or have very mild symptoms.
How many people do u think will die if there is mass starvation plus all the social ills that’d come with closing down everything? Plus the irreversible damage to the economy?
If u calm down and look at it UNEMOTIONALLY you’d see the sense in what I’m saying. (Also remember that both our birth rate and population density are quite high).

Also, SINCE THE DEATH RATE IS SO LOW, we can go the herd immunity route - gradually as more and more people recover and therefore develop immunity to the virus, we’d eventually develop herd immunity, at which point the virus is defeated.

Here’s the rest of my argument to the guy (which is totally original by the way):

First of all we’d be doing everything other countries are doing EXCEPT totally shut down our society. People will be sentisized to not crowd together, social distancing, to wash hands, to use face masks, etc, PLUS we’d also be treating those we can which will save some. So there’d be no “everyone is allowed to be infected at the same time, with no one taking care of anybody“.

Secondly, it is established that 97% of the infected, get well without needing any special medical care (so for them it is just like, say, malaria)

Thirdly we’d have more people who have survived the virus and therefore whose blood have immunity and can be used to treat the sick (this has been shown to work)

Fourthly we should remember we are overpopulated.
It is better that we fight a war and win and come out stronger (though losing some people), than to close everything and hide like cowards because of an enemy we know we can defeat (though we’d lose some people while doing it). Countries have gone to war instead of surrendering, knowing fully well they’d lose half their people!

OtemAtum:
Lol

Otem! Remember me? The guy who poked holes in all u say and showed your dotofus to be unscientific science fiction wanna be.
From the timeline below tell us where those people who were on earth billions of years ago fit in

puremaker7:
Trash

How?

Maybe Bubu will announce his resignation, admitting he is the wrong person to be leading the nation at this time.
Check out Trump below

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gp0HT-3rR2E

Nodogragra4me:
Humans are nothing but numbers to the big pharmaceutical industry. The media is their willing tool for wiping up mass hysteria and fear. Only the social window is giving the masses an opportunity to stay alive in this rat race.


Just look at the billions been spent on acquiring ventilator and buying other hospital equipment like beds in just Nigeria alone. Money that could easily get those drugs and distribute even across the west African nations

Exactly. They first must “study” it for a year and do trials, never mind that it’s been around for 70 years. Then they’ll tweak it and give it a fancy name, so u won’t know it’s the same chloroquine. Then they’ll sell it for $50 a pill, prescription only - doctors must make their money too! Trump broke a big rule indeed!

Firstnebo:
Chloroquine is a known drug used to treat malarial virus.
Some top people around the world are already saying it works when used against Coronavirus

And some were laughing at Trump. See a doctor’s letter below

NiCurious:
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Thanks 4 input. Well why then do u think Japanese approach to date (see below) has been successful - no extensive testing, no closing down of society

nairanaira12:
2000 already dead in the US and 30k across the globe. What percentage of the dead is elite?

It took US over 1 month to reach 1000, and 2 DAYS to reach 2000!

Ogaonos:
we have pass d stage of preventive.buhari failed to prevent.what u saying about Japan approach is what d whole world is doing including Nigeria states but is back firing.u don't wait for Ur citizen to show symptoms Nd do contact tracing.causalities go high.like Italy .citizen door to door testing as we all stay indoor is d solution.if we can share such solution to our governors it will help alot.nd we be back to work sooner.

Ok, so why do u think it worked for Japan: they didn’t test much and they didn’t shut down their society - and they are next door to Wuhan!

Ogaonos:
the best way for Nigeria as a nation to content covid 19 while science find d cure vaccine.is for governors to take d south Korea approach which is add testing of all citizen in each state directed by d governors.virus no dey hide for blood who ever test positive with be brought to d isolation centre then tested the 2nd time if d result come negative for instance test d third time(incompetent fit happen)but when it still show positive start treatment which various drug Nd research because u no fit leave person die.america Nd south Africa I think are now using DT approach.d idea of

How then do u explain the success of the Japanese approach (see below). They neither tested much nor shut down their society

Nodogragra4me:
The cure is available just that the big pharmaceutical companies considers it or them too cheap to be the cost for such a one in a lifetime economic boom. Trump already told you the name






https://www.nairaland.com/5760698/coronavirus-cure-impressive-results-french#87847269

They don’t understand there are cabals bigger than Trump who MUST make their money before u start talking of any cure or vaccine or such. U can’t just sidetrack them and start saying some drug seems to work. That’s one of the pitfalls of capitalism, though I still think it is better than the alternative.

caddylac:
no provision made for the poor

It is really sad

Kennydoc:
Testing is not sufficient in Nigeria, so actual figures is obviously much more than what is quoted. I have heard reports of several people who called NCDC to get tested but could never get it done. So far, Nigeria has tested less than 500 people.
Anyway, I am strongly believing that something about Nigeria will make it difficult for people to come down with severe disease, thereby reducing mortality rate. Some countries have much better case fatality rate than others. An example is Germany especially when you compare it to Italy or Spain.

Even in Italy the warmer southern regions are ok - didn’t u read of Nigerians having a full blown wedding yesterday in Italy?!

I believe thousands of Nigerians have or have had corona only that they don’t know it because it never made them that sick!
I suspect the death rate among Nigerians living permanently in Nigeria is zero and will continue to be close to zero.

Below is an argument I presented to a guy:
—————————

Ok, it is established fact that AT MOST we’d lose less than 2% of those who get this virus (though currently it is 0% for Nigerians permanently living in Nigeria!). 80% of those who get the virus either never have symptoms or have very mild symptoms.
How many people do u think will die if there is mass starvation plus all the social ills that’d come with closing down everything? Plus the irreversible damage to the economy?
If u calm down and look at it UNEMOTIONALLY you’d see the sense in what I’m saying. (Also remember that both our birth rate and population density are quite high).

Also, SINCE THE DEATH RATE IS SO LOW, we can go the herd immunity route - gradually as more and more people recover and therefore develop immunity to the virus, we’d eventually develop herd immunity, at which point the virus is defeated.

Here’s the rest of my argument to the guy (which is totally original by the way):

First of all we’d be doing everything other countries are doing EXCEPT totally shut down our society. People will be sentisized to not crowd together, social distancing, to wash hands, to use face masks, etc, PLUS we’d also be treating those we can which will save some. So there’d be no “everyone is allowed to be infected at the same time, with no one taking care of anybody“.

Secondly, it is established that 97% of the infected, get well without needing any special medical care (so for them it is just like, say, malaria)

Thirdly we’d have more people who have survived the virus and therefore whose blood have immunity and can be used to treat the sick (this has been shown to work)

Fourthly we should remember we are overpopulated.
It is better that we fight a war and win and come out stronger (though losing some people), than to close everything and hide like cowards because of an enemy we know we can defeat (though we’d lose some people while doing it). Countries have gone to war instead of surrendering, knowing fully well they’d lose half their people!

Camfoods02:



In other news I am in house cook and I make delicious homemade soups kindly check my profile for enquiries.

How can we be sure soup has no coro

OTayobami:
Lol, I am not understanding something o, for China to contain this disease, does it mean all of them(over 1 billion) are educated to know what to do?

They ORDER them. No need to educate. It is a different type of society

Kennydoc:
We can both see how things are going now.

Nigeria is very lucky with this virus. If it weren’t for our weather, sun, and malaria, Buhari and all those people Kyari met will have corona right now and half of Nigeria will already be dead!

knowhowk:
Let the truth be told Hydroxychloroquine & Azithromycin will never be Accepted as treatment for Covid 19 .There are Evidences that the Combination of the two drugs works Greatly but yet there is a very slow Actions on the Clinical trials. Is there a Conspiracy been led by the WHO ? I don't really get all these Delays ,People are dying all over the World,The US President talked about this ,Yet FDA is talking Nonsense ,True or Not can't they just pick the two drugs and apply it on at least Two Patients and see how it goes ,After all they have not been able to come up with anything .The Florida man called Rio Giardinieri, 52, told Los Angeles’ Told Fox 11 that he almost died of Covid 19 in his sick bed after he had already called his Friends about his imminent death ,Asked he should be given Hydroxychloroquine which according to him saved His life. Same happened in China and France .If there is no Conspiracy and Business Interest why spending Millions dollars on trial with no Amazing results ,Can't the WHO put in more research and Clinical trails on the Combination ....

But they’ve already started trying it on patients in NY from last Tuesday. See below

motivate555:
I want to understand something,[b] I thought there was something called patient confidentiality? [/b]or is this because it is a special case?

Lawless country. He’d be thinking, what can she do?

helinues:
We can see the effects of USA coordination.

Ghana with 58 cases have recorded 3 deaths..

You wailers won't seize to amaze us

It seems to me US is doing just fine. See below
They have over 160,000 ventilators and poised to make millions more for export.
We have less 500!

Commonsense99:
Are you rephrasing the prophesy?
Are you now trying to shift the goal post?
Try harder bro, you can do better than this

WATCH THE VIDEO!
Tell me if u see him say 2020 anywhere

freeman131:
AGAIN TB JOSHUA PROPHESY CAME TO PASS AS OXFORD UNIVERSITY DISCOVERS COVID-19 VACCINE.

Not only that, he said it will disappear March 27.
HE DID NOT SAY 2020!
All u doubters should remember that

Ishitinyourlife:
They're are still looking for ventilator themselves and you're saying crap

They have too many billionaires willing to donate ventilators and too many huge companies ready to build them. See below...

160,000 ventilators in US
Less than 500 over here
This life

Sirwallace:
Thank you my brother. If Trump had listened to expert before the Virus became community spread in the US, they will not be overwhelm the way they are now. They would have prepared earlier and put something like this in place.

But the Idiot said the whole noise about the virus is just a hoax. Just a common the flu he called it.

Now The US is fvcked up big time.

Stay there. I saw where US already did this and will soon be exporting ventilators! See below

Topmaike007:
was it China that brought it to Italy
8stargeneral

Yes, China brought it to Italy. See the timeline below:

The first cases of the 2019–20 coronavirus pandemic in Italy were confirmed on 31 January 2020, when two Chinese tourists in Rome tested positive for coronavirus disease 2019, caused by SARS-CoV-2.
One week later an Italian man repatriated back to Italy from the city of Wuhan, China, was hospitalised and confirmed as the third case in Italy.

Topmaike007:
and was it China that brought it to your country? Or is it China that said people should not buy your Fuel again

The virus from China is why flights and travels stopped which led to oil. If people were dropping in 9ja like in Italy, I wonder if you’d still say same

Dobson43:
CORONAVIRUS TWISTS YOU DIDN'T KNOW

*WELL PLAYED CHINA....*

Nonsense. Why not just release the virus in US. Why stigmatize themselves and Wuhan.
Nobody knows how much corona N Korea and Russus has. Chinese President has many body doubles

Pr0cter:
Long live China, Long live president Xi Jinping

1$ is now N450. Oil has tanked. U r sitting at home. Nigeria is closed down.

U forget the virus that caused all that originated in China!

franchasng:
Coronavirus is not as deadly or lethal as media is making it look.


2% fatality rate does not warrant shutting down the world!!


There are more deadlier diseases that have been ravaging the world more than this coronavirus. TB nkor

Open the economy, something worst than this epidemic will hit the world, especially Nigeria, stop buying into western media hype of coronavirus, China, South Korea, Japan have already defeated this pandemic, why are people still panicking

Economic recession that is looming in Nigeria after this whole coronavirus nonsense will kill more people and cause more havoc in Nigeria than coronavirus, bookmark this thread today.


Many people will lose their jobs after this.

Many who will retain their job will see their salary slashed!

Businesses will be drastically affected. Crime will increase

Please tell them! UcLloyd, obi4eze
Responding with hysteria instead of common sense.

Actually it is less than 2% and vast majority of those have underlying medical conditions.

When u factor in Nigeria’s weather, immune boosting sun, and malaria, I suspect the death rate among Nigerians living permanently in Nigeria is close to zero.
I believe thousands have or have had corona in Nigeria only that they don’t know it because it never made them that sick!

Below is an argument I presented to a guy:
—————————

Ok, it is established fact that AT MOST we’d lose less than 2% of those who get this virus (though currently it is 0% for Nigerians permanently living in Nigeria!). 80% of those who get the virus either have no symptoms or very mild symptoms.
How many people do u think will die if there is mass starvation plus all the social ills that’d come with closing down everything? Plus the irreversible damage to the economy?
If u calm down and look at it UNEMOTIONALLY you’d see the sense in what I’m saying. (Also remember that both our birth rate and population density are quite high).

Also, SINCE THE DEATH RATE IS SO LOW, we can go the herd immunity route - gradually as more and more people recover and therefore develop immunity to the virus, we’d eventually develop herd immunity, at which point the virus is defeated.

Here’s the rest of my argument to the guy (which is totally original by the way):

First of all we’d be doing everything other countries are doing EXCEPT totally shut down our society. People will be sentisized to not crowd together, social distancing, to wash hands, to use face masks, etc, PLUS we’d also be treating those we can which will save some. So there’d be no “everyone is allowed to be infected at the same time, with no one taking care of anybody“.

Secondly, it is established that 97% of the infected, get well without needing any special medical care (so for them it is just like, say, malaria)

Thirdly we’d have more people who have survived the virus and therefore whose blood have immunity and can be used to treat the sick (this has been shown to work)

Fourthly we should remember we are overpopulated.
It is better that we fight a war and win and come out stronger (though losing some people), than to close everything and hide like cowards because of an enemy we know we can defeat (though we’d lose some people while doing it). Countries have gone to war instead of surrendering, knowing fully well they’d lose half their people!