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FuckAllTheMODs:
On a serious note, there was a conspiracy against Hope in that election.
Ihedioha wouldn't have spent months as a governor if not for that.
The reason why you are thinking this way is that they didn't point the searchlight towards the election and the results in other parts of the state but they faced the side where Hope had upper hand and tried to spoil the results there.
Just like cancelling results in someone's stronghold and leaving other results for him since you know that alone won't give him the lead because you have damaged his stronghold's result.
Don't forget before you cancel election results, there are things that need to be done, rules and regulations to be followed and there are particular class of INEC officials that can do that, how do you expect a situation where inappropriate officials canceled election results to stand.

Had it been you have worked as an INEC official in a general election, you would have understood better.

View this from a neutral perspective and you will understand better. You are viewing it from a party line.
Let us forget this argument please, let's focus on the way forward.

The “stronghold” thing dose not hold water because a re-run election was later held in that same “stronghold” and PDP won the election! They truth is that Imo did not want APC.

The personnel of INEC are appointed by the ruling party who also controls their funding plus controls all state machinery and money. Yet u have been somehow talked into believing tha Ihedioha controlled INEC!

If u talk about bribery, is Ihedioha richer than Uzodinma or Rochas?? Or does he have better access to INEC??

How hard is it to obtain INEC documents, write any results u wish, keep the carbon copies, and destroy the rest??
Or is it that it is so hard to obtain INEC documents??
The ONLY way to checkmate that is to accept INEC’s word, UNDER OATH, that they never issued those documents! That should have been the end of the case, right there!

Tanko’s SC overruled all lower courts plus INEC, cunningly did not mention any numbers because they know the numbers made no sense, same reason they could not mention meeting geographical spread, same reason INEC could not give final tally of votes. Plus one of them, Nweze, wrote, confirming all we already know

Look, all elections have errors and shenanigans. But that’s why the bar for removing an incumbent is high. After all the games and maneuverings the umpire declares a result. It is VERY IMPORTANT not to change that result unless the documentary proof is unassailable and the reasons crystal clear. INEC declared Ihedioha the winner and Hope 4th place. That’s the baseline. They were not equal - one was the incumbent, the other came FOURTH! You don’t lightly change that!
To replace an 8-month gov with a 4th place finisher should be just about impossible. In the highly unlikely event it is tried, the documentary evidence should be beyond reproach and the reasons extremely clear.

SenecaTheYonger:
You know that Russia is one of the top oil-dependant economies in the world, why would they shoot themselves in the foot?

Well

Cyberterror:
Many thanks for providing this irrefutable evidence. CanadaorBust has fled

No I haven’t.
I commended him too.

I follow where the evidence leads. I’m not on anybody’s side

SenecaTheYonger:
Lol. Actual dollars . He doesn't know most of US oil are refined and sold in the US like how a sane country should be. He thinks that everyone has to export oil to finance budget like Nigeria.

What a comedian. Lol recession. How did you come up with that?

Google is you friend.

Afamed:
What next now that you have seen the video? Do you need more evidence?

If that’s really Orji then u got dynamite there

Cyberterror:
Many people have confirmed it as genuine. They say that Kalu released the photos after Orji stopped paying him the agreed sum.

They say, they say, many people confirmed...

SenecaTheYonger:
Listen here, About 48 percent of USA's federal revenue comes from individual income taxes, 9 percent from corporate income taxes, and another 35 percent from payroll taxes, the rest (8%) comes from a mix of sources - which I'm sure oil is among.

NIGERIA's major source of revenue is OIL. I can't believe somebody can be dense enough to think low oil price will send US into a recession.

How were they coping when they hadn't become a large oil mining country? Na wa ohh. Ignorance no be here.

You listen here. US loses more actual dollars than any other country when oil price falls. What u said is that it is good for US economy. Of course it affects Nigeria more but there’d be more bankruptcies in US

jaxxy:
So shud I also tell u exact same thing for ihedioha’s case? Or cos I’m not a lawyer means I can’t read or write or comprehend the truth of a matter based on facts

No u can’t. In Imo, Tanko’s SC overruled all lower courts plus INEC, cunningly did not mention any numbers because they know the numbers made no sense, same reason they could not mention meeting geographical spread, same reason INEC could not give final tally of votes. Plus one of them, Nweze, wrote, confirming all we already know

Cyberterror:
Abagworo
Afamed
ChinoElects
okpalaAnambra
MelesZenawi
gidgiddy
CanadaorBust
justtoodark
Bragalane
Africonji
NaijaRoyalty

Is there any truth in this matter?

In this age of photoshop? U can’t be serious

jaxxy:
How hard is it to verify skol documents I asked U didn’t respond o?

On imo there were cancelled centre which were ignored bt later brought up and that is possible if there is good reason, the only issue is confirming authenticity of the results which was the injustice. This is same faliure to authenticate the results of the vp elect In Bayelsa b4 concluding such erroneous judgement.

Like I told u,
1) u r not a lawyer. These were people who went to school for years for that
2) u were not at the trials. U don’t know what was presented and what transpired.
3) Three different court panels unanimously reached the same conclusion with one levying 60m fine!

awoo47:
are u kidding? US isn't yet a net exporter of oil.
this favors china the most, but certainly doesn't affect us that much since they produce to consume nt sell like there life depends on it jus lyk our case

US is the world’s greatest producer of oil. Oil in US is in private hands. If oil price falls then far more money is withdrawn from US economy than any other country.
So it hurts US, only that it hurts Nigeria more. If oil price stays low for long US economy will go into recession

jaxxy:
Newly elected of only 8months with the case in court isn’t incumbent. Many governors win by fraud and are later removed so forget that incumbent.

U tell me I forged my documents and can’t prove it and how and u say I’m committed a crime? That person must be out of their damn minds. How hard isn’t for a court to validate documents from skols? Unless they are biased

Mention the big adverse precedent set in Bayelsa.

Now consider the precedent set in Imo:
How hard is it to obtain INEC documents, write any results u wish, keep the carbon copies, and destroy the rest??
Or is it that it is so hard to obtain INEC documents??
The ONLY way to checkmate that is to accept INEC’s word, UNDER OATH, that they never issued those documents! That should have been the end of the case, right there!

InvertedHammer:
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It has nothing to do with US. It is between Russia and Saudi Arabia. Russia didn't want to play ball at the last OPEC meeting and Saudi decided to give huge discount in prices. And here we are. US economy is not hugely tied to oil export like Russia and Saudi Arabia. A country like Nigeria is justa mere spectator.

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Well I heard an economist say Russia could have done that partly to hurt US economy. If oil price stays low for long US will go into recession

Cool

jaxxy:
U keep saying 4 place finisher like there weren’t votes canceled and later allocated to him, maybe fraudulently bt that is yet to be proven as it wasn’t analyzed. Same goes for Bayelsa which u can continued to deny. How do u determine a document is a forgery? Did they consult the skols or exam councils? I don’t get how any court arrives at such judgement that way

@bolded, exactly! Three different court panels arrived at the same conclusion. U, a non-lawyer, can’t know better than all of them.

I must keep repeating 4th place because that is INEC’s verdict and INEC is the UMPIRE!!

Look, all elections have errors and shenanigans. But that’s why the bar for removing an incumbent is high. After all the games and maneuverings the umpire declares a result. It is VERY IMPORTANT not to change that result unless the documentary proof is unassailable and the reasons crystal clear. INEC declared Ihedioha the winner and Hope 4th place. That’s the baseline. They were not equal - one was the incumbent, the other came FOURTH! You don’t lightly change that!

Oracle23:
The U.S are not reliant on crude oil like nigeria.

Their citizens n businesses will do well this period because the price of gasoline n diesel will fall heavily in America

Ignorance. It HURTS US economy! U can argue it hurts Nigerian economy more

Righteousness89:
Am still suprised on why the identity of the Italian That officially imported covid-19 to Nigeria was kept hidden!

Same reason the identity of the Nigerian that contracted it in US is kept hidden

SenecaTheYonger:
Do you not know the meaning of plummet?

No. Educate me

SenecaTheYonger:
I need to read the article to know Nigeria is oil dependant? Or that cheap oil translates to cheap gas in US?

Elementary economics: if u produce a lot of something, the higher the price the better for u

jaxxy:
I can't believe how based u are. And which lower court? Lyon was about to be sworn the next day b4 the fraudulent and hasty judgement. It is exact same robbery and stop saying 8months governor cos if Bayelsa election held at normal general election day Lyon also wud have been an 8months governor. 8months is not the argument, I may understand both lower courts as to against 1 lower court bt it is still robbery on Lyon' s side pls. Dont call it justice. Ihedioha isn't the only person who deserves justice here.

I am not biased at all. You are the one who sentimentally refuses to see the two cases are quite different. In Bayelsa two courts and the review court unanimously agreed to the same thing. That should convince u that the judgment is at least LEGAL though u can argue it is not fair (though there is no way they could have legally disqualified the deputy gov without also disqualifying the gov).
The 8 months issue matters because it is too disruptive, also there is a general rule in law “if in doubt let the status quo stand”. Different if Uzodinma were already the gov. To replace an 8-month gov with a 4th place finisher should be just about impossible. In the highly unlikely event it is tried, the documentary evidence should be beyond reproach and the reasons extremely clear.
Stop comparing the cases, they are quite different.

SenecaTheYonger:
On your path?

Go back and read the rest. That’s why it is not good to reply too quickly

SenecaTheYonger:
Oil price fall is good for the US economy but bad for countries like Nigeria whose economy runs on oil export.

Ignorance. It is VERY BAD for US economy. US is by far the world’s greatest producer of oil. In fact there are speculations they did this partly to hurt US economy

CXLVII:
Informative threads like this will hardly grace front page.

Just add snake or Regina Daniels to the story and swiftly it will race to front page.

This forum is years behind Quora.

Well, now that it is on FP can u now apologize to us mods

unbitchable:
if the result was fake, INEC wouldn't have signed on it. in fact, the case would have died at the election tribunal. Justice Nweze is a fraud.

INEC DID NOT SIGN IT!!! Stop bandying about that lie (see below).
EXACTLY, the case should have died at the election tribunal!!

The following is from the actual summary of trial materials.
Pay special attention to the bolded.
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That Supreme Court Magic Judgment
This Day (Lagos) 17 FEBRUARY 2020

... According to summary of trial materials, no ward collation agent was called to show that at the collation center results were brought from the 388 polling units where the alleged exclusion took place...

The petitioner, rather called 28 polling unit agents who came to identify some of the results tendered by the petitioner from the bar. All the electoral documents were tendered from the bar and thus dumped on the court without anybody giving evidence correlating the contents of the result forms with the tabulation done by the petitioner himself.

Each of the 18 polling unit agents under cross-examination, manifested ignorance of the contents of the documents and never convinced anybody of being present in their claimed polling units...

Independent National Electoral Commission (INEC) had in their reply to the petition disowned those result sheets and averred emphatically that NO RESULTS WERE GENERATED from those polling units as elections in those polling units were cancelled by presiding officers as a result of violence, over voting, snatching of electoral materials, etc. The Independent National Electoral Commission (INEC) stated that any result from those polling units presented by any of the candidates, in this case, the petitioners, must be fake.

When confronted with the purported result sheets tendered by the petitioners, each of the witnesses admitted as follows:
i. The names and signatures of the Presiding Officers are not well found on those results.
ii. The names and signatures of other party agents did not appear on the result sheets, neither could they mention even one party agent of the other political parties in those booths.
iii. The result sheets do not contain the total number of ballot papers used and number of ballot papers unused or invalid. The scores of political parties are not clear on the face of the documents.

Based on the above, it appears the Supreme Court was desperately working to an answer in favour of the ruling party... and the only opening to do that was to accept the fictitious results of the 388 polling units willy-nilly. And instead of doing substantial justice on the matter, it ended up delivering one of judiciary's greatest infamies which even a kid learning arithmetic can see through. The judgment turned logic on its head, rewrote the basic universal laws of arithmetic and did grave and substantial injury to our democracy and the power of the people to choose who governs them. With this judicial precedent, the Supreme Court has inevitably rubber-stamped political rascality and the judgment could shape our democratic future.

The court has widened the opening which politicians exploit and manipulate to get into elective offices. All one needs to do is to stay somewhere, maybe in one's room, probably with one policeman or so, write one's own results, submit to INEC for counting and if it refuses, don't worry, bid your time till you get to the court. With supreme arrogance, the final court of appeal will recognise the results as legitimate, credible and authentic and pronto, you will be declared duly elected.

...Even more perplexing was the fact that in some of the polling units, voter turnout was more than the registered voters. How is this possible?
In Uzodinma's result sheets, there was no voided vote and only two parties, the Peoples Democratic Party (PDP) and APC participated and were reflected in the election results of the 388 polling units. Yet, 70 political parties participated in that election and were all reflected in the INEC declared results of other polling units all over the state. ..,Does it mean that other parties such as All Progressives Grand Alliance (APGA), Action Alliance (AA), etc., did not participate in the election in those 388 polling units contrary to INEC's results in other areas of the state?
Why did the result sheets reflect only two parties when so many parties participated in the said election? Apparently, Senator Uzodinma concocted those results that fly in the face of the basic laws of arithmetic and common sense between the PDP and the APC after the fact that the PDP had won the election and he only scored his party a vote figure higher than the PDP vote. The corollary to that is that if it was any other party that was on the cusp of victory, Uzodinma's results would have been between just the APC and that party! Yet our almighty Supreme Court glossed over all these fundamental anomalies in Uzodinma's result sheets which had been rejected by even INEC... and accepted same as authentic.
A further assessment of the result sheets of the disputed 388 polling units showed that the said units are all in the Orlu Senatorial Zone where Uzodinma and the candidate of the Action Alliance Ugwumba Uche Nwosu come from. So even if the 388 polling units were concentrated mostly in Uzodinma's ancestral home, surely, Nwosu who emerged second in the March 9, 2019 election in Imo State and was backed by the incumbent governor at the time, Rochas Okorocha, his father in-law, must have amassed some votes from the units. But these votes were curiously missing, for the simple reason that they forged the results, and very badly at that.
Furthermore, Uzodinma of the APC scored an average of 98% of the total votes cast in the 388 units, whereas he scored an average of 13% in the remaining polling units in the state. How could this be? Why was it that it was only in these 388 units throughout the state that the voter turnout was either more than the registered voters or achieved 98 to 100 percent of the registered voters? Please note that emphasis is NOT on the number of accredited voters which is usually far less than the number of registered voters. Uzodinma's fake results validated by our Supreme Court defy reason. The pattern of the results from the disputed 388 polling units clearly shows the improbability of such an occurrence. And on the basis of the testimony of one policeman, and 28 discredited polling units' agents who gave contradictory statements at trial, the Supreme Court accepted the results.

In declaring Uzodinma governor of Imo State, the Supreme Court simply annulled a valid mandate freely given to an individual and transferred it to another person who came fourth in the election.

MrSensor:

Where does Bobrisky’s millions come from?? I am asking because I honestly don’t know

jaxxy:
So Bayelsa was justice? They disqualified a man for forgery not wasn't investigated or proven bt merely assumed and u say everything was above board? Where and when was the investigation done to prove the forgery? Or u aswell already believe by hear say its is forgery? Where other forgery cases not investigate? Why wasn't this?

Pls don't be biased Lyon was robbed exact same way as ihedioha unless u don't believe in justice

Look, u and I are neither lawyers nor were we at the trials BUT there are things even a child can see and understand. We know that in Bayelsa the SC was merely upholding a lower court’s ruling and that they were swiftly unanimously levied a hefty fine upon asking for review. While in Imo the SC overruled all lower courts and INEC itself (who swore under perjury that Uzodinma’s documents were fake) in order to REPLACE an already eight-month governor with a FOURTH place finisher all based on clearly obviously fraudulent documents and numbers that even a child can tell are fraudulent!! Not only that, far from levying any fine, Justice Centus Chima Nweze (whose name is forever written in gold) wrote a dissension confirming everything we already know!

Wow!

jaxxy:
Do u think Bayelsa was justice Then im not sure Ure concerned about justice generally bt the ones that concerns u or close to u.

I’m not talking about Pdp or Apc I’m talking about justice.

Bros u keep comparing apples and oranges. Disqualifications are common in politics and can be for all sorts of reasons. In Imo an 8th-month governor was replaced with a FOURTH place finisher based on obviously fraudulent documents!!! What are the bad precedents from Bayelsa?? But after Imo how can u again tell Nigerians that lying and cheating don’t pay, on what basis can u tell politicians not to write their own result sheets??

Also in Bayelsa everything was above board, all the numbers published.
Notice how in Imo Tanko’s SC carefully avoided mentioning numbers in a case that is all about numbers! Same way INEC carefully avoided giving the final tally of votes as they do in every other case!
Stop comparing two things that are totally different

unbitchable:
if only APC and PDP contested, how did Uzodima came 4th in the election?.. who is daft now.

How could justice Nweze declare him wrongly elected for not pleading the case of other candidates?.. what was PDP lawyers especially doing when Uzodima's lawyers were pleading their client's case. justice Nweze is even more daft than you.

R u ok sir?? You can’t be that dense. THE WHOLE POINT IS THAT THE RESULT IS FAKE otherwise some reference must have been made to the other 68 parties who equally contested the election! No votes were allocated to them and no reference about their votes being discounted, proof the results were FAKE!

Justice Centus Chima Nweze’s name is forever written in gold!

unbitchable:
justice Nweze is a fraud. how could he expects Uzodima plead the scores of "other candidates"?. what business has Uzodima with their scores?. is he their lawyers?. didn't they have their lawyers to plea their case?.. i swear, Nweze is an affidavit justice.

Don’t be dense. That’s proof that the results were fake. No votes were allocated to any of the other parties and no reference was made about exclusion of their votes - only APC and PDP contested the election!

RIP

unbitchable:
Justice Nweze is shameless. justices are allowed to dissent according to ethics but he agreed in his initial judgement, only to dissent when the pressure from ibo folks were getting to him. such a person must not be allowed near the seat of Justice cos he could easily be influenced by mere emotions & emotional outcry.

What the heck r u talking. HE SAID HE WAS DECEIVED!
Also Tanko rushed them, knowing they’d have no time to examine the documents or submissions. He didn’t even give them time to compare Uzodinma’s written tabulation with the documents submitted!

Below is from dissension of Justice Centus Chima Nweze (whose name is forever written in gold). Read it carefully.

The following is directly from him VERBATIM (including the phrase “wonders shall never end”):

Five, “The applicants equally complained that the said judgement of this court is a nullity in that it was delivered without jurisdiction. True indeed, one of the grounds of the first appellants (Uzodinma)’s reliefs was that the election was invalid by reason of non-compliance with the provisions of the Electoral Act (as amended). It was therefore, with profound respect, clearly preposterous to award him electoral victory in exercise he has deprecated and maligned as being invalid.”

Six, “Although the first appellant claimed that his 213, 695 votes were unlawfully excluded in the third respondent’s final result, the statement of his excluded votes in Exhibit AGA339527, the one on record, mysteriously omitted any reference to the votes scored by other candidates in that election. In my respectful view, having thus failed, neglected or omitted to plead the scores of other candidates in the said election, this court wrongly declared him as duly elected.”

Seven, “True indeed, DW 5, in his INEC form EC40G, Exhibit 63 RB1, 63 RB19 shows that elections in those polling units were either cancelled or did not hold at all. Unfortunate for defence was that the said first appellant misled this court into accepting those duplicitous and fake results which he had tabulated as shown above that was how 213, 695 votes were added to him and 1, 903 votes were added to the first applicant. The net effect was that although by Exhibit A1 Form EC8, Exhibit AGA2 in the affidavit in support of the application, the total number of accredited voters in the state was 823,743, the total number of votes cast came 961, 083.

Wonders shall never end! That means there were 159,340 votes in excess of the total number of accredited votes. “In the circumstance, I think that the humble view, that this court has inherent jurisdiction of redeeming its image by setting aside the said judgement, is not out of place.”