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Bimpe 29: As a matter of justice, Noine should be charged for murder and assault.

more likely to be aggravated assault, but the chances of a lebanese being convicted of assaulting a nigerian without money in nigeria are very very slim.

This guy probably has all the top police officers in lagos in his back pocket.

neohitler: you are very funny.I am not even black not to talk of being Nigerian.idiot

You definitely sound like a nigerian.

Garri the 1st: Always looking outside the window for who to blame for your woes.

Take a look in the Mirror Bro that's where you'll see the source of all the probl;ems you're yapping about.

Try reading some books for a change like these ones:


The Scramble for Africa: White Man's Conquest of the Dark Continent from 1876-1912

by Thomas Pakenham

In scarcely half a generation during the late 1800s, six European powers sliced up Africa like a cake. The pieces went to Britain, France, Germany, Italy, Portugal and Belgium; among them, they acquired 30 new colonies and 110 million subjects. Although African rulers resisted, many battles were one-sided massacres. In 1904 the Hereros, a tribe of southwest southwest, if not a country name Africa, revolted against German rule. Their punishment was genocide--24,000 driven into the desert to starve; those who surrendered were sent to forced labor camps to be worked to death. In a dramatic, gripping chronicle, Pakenham ( The Boer War ) floodlights the "dark continent" and its systematic rape by Europe. At center stage are a motley band of explorers, politicians, evangelists, mercenaries, journalists and tycoons blinded by romantic nationalism or caught up in the scramble for loot, markets and slaves. In an epilogue Pakenham tells how the former colonial powers still dominate the economies of the African nations, most of which are under one-party or dictatorial rule.

King Leopold's Ghost

by Adam Hochschild



Hochschild's superb, engrossing chronicle focuses on one of the great, horrifying and nearly forgotten crimes of the century: greedy Belgian King Leopold II's rape of the Congo, the vast colony he seized as his private fiefdom in 1885. Until 1909, he used his mercenary army to force slaves into mines and rubber plantations, burn villages, mete out sadistic punishments, including dismemberment, and commit mass murder. The hero of Hochschild's highly personal, even gossipy narrative is Liverpool shipping agent Edmund Morel, who, having stumbled on evidence of Leopold's atrocities, became an investigative journalist and launched an international Congo reform movement with support from Mark Twain, Booker T. Washington and Arthur Conan Doyle. Other pivotal figures include Joseph Conrad, whose disgust with Leopold's "civilizing mission" led to Heart of Darkness; and black American journalist George Washington Williams, who wrote the first systematic indictment of Leopold's colonial regime in 1890. Hochschild (The Unquiet Ghost) documents the machinations of Leopold, who won over President Chester A. Arthur and bribed a U.S. senator to derail Congo protest resolutions. He also draws provocative parallels between Leopold's predatory one-man rule and the strongarm tactics of Mobuto Sese Seko, who ruled the successor state of Zaire. But most of all it is a story of the bestiality of one challenged by the heroism of many in an increasingly democratic world. 30 illustrations.

http://wysinger.homestead.com/berlinconference.html

femmyb: Bros we cannot continue to blame European colonialism for our woes, we are presently under a worse form of colonialism from black overlords. Can you tell me the reason why a poor third world country like Nigeria have 10 aircrafts in its presidential fleet and the govt is planning to buy the 11th, how many aircfrats does the US have in its presidential fleet?

Nigeria is not a poor country, it is the fifth largest exporter of crude oil in the world.

these black overlords that you speak of are merely front men for european and american govts, banking institutions and multinational corporations, they have no real power.

Can you tell me why our corrupt leaders are allowed to stash their stolen money away in foreign banks ? theft and embezzlement is committed by two parties -the person who steals and the person who receives the stolen funds. When the west decided to remove Qadaffi from power how come they were able to freeze billions of dollars of his countries fudns lodged in their foreign banks, dont you think they can do the same with the money our leaders steal?

Garri the 1st: Always looking outside the window for who to blame for your woes.

Take a look in the Mirror Bro that's where you'll see the source of all the probl;ems you're yapping about.

see my post on the berlin conference as i know you've never heard of it.

neohitler: Did my country Germany also stole from your people?

hmm why am i getting the feeling that you are actually a nigerian pretending to be a german?

Germany stole the land of the herero people of namibia and cast them into the desert to die of thirst but when they lost the first world war their land was taken away from them and shared amongst the victors of the first world war.

ever heard of the berlin conference? The person who chaired it was a german - Otto Von Bismarck

The Scramble for Africa: Berlin Conference of 1884-1885 to Divide Africa


Meeting at the Berlin residence of Chancellor Otto von Bismarck in 1884, the foreign ministers of fourteen European powers and the United States established ground rules for the future exploitation of the "dark continent." Africans were not invited or made privy to their decisions.

1884-1885 - Berlin West African Conference carves Africa into spheres of control


In the second half of the nineteenth century, after more than four centuries of contact, the European powers finally laid claim to virtually all of Africa. Parts of the continent had been "explored," but now representatives of European governments and rulers arrived to create or expand African spheres of influence for their patrons. Competition was intense. Spheres of influence began to crowd each other. It was time for negotiation, and in late 1884 a conference was convened in Berlin to sort things out. This conference laid the groundwork for the now familiar politico-geographical map of Africa.


In November 1884, the imperial chancellor and architect of the German Empire, Otto von Bismarck, convened a conference of 14 states (including the United States) to settle the political partitioning of Africa. Bismarck wanted not only to expand German spheres of influence in Africa but also to play off Germany's colonial rivals against one another to the Germans' advantage. Of these fourteen nations, France, Germany, Great Britain, and Portugal were the major players in the conference, controlling most of colonial Africa at the time.

The Congo Free State, conceived as a "neutral" zone to be run by an international association in the interest of bringing science, civilization, and Christianity to the indigenes, received the Berlin Conference's blessings. Belgium's King Leopold II (far left) soon took control, reaping fabulous personal profits through the sale of land and development rights. Scandalously little was reinvested in schools like the one shown here.
BBC news site:


A man who exploited Congo's resources and contributed to up to 10 million deaths. One man told the BBC: "He left us in poverty. He exploited our raw materials and left us with nothing."


The Berlin Conference was Africa's undoing in more ways than one. The colonial powers superimposed their domains on the African Continent. By the time Africa regained its independence after the late 1950s, the realm had acquired a legacy of political fragmentation that could neither be eliminated nor made to operate satisfactorily. The African politico-geographical map is thus a permanent liability that resulted from the three months of ignorant, greedy acquisitiveness during a period when Europe's search for minerals and markets had become insatiable.


The French dominated most of West Africa, and the British East and Southern Africa. The Belgians acquired the vast territory that became The Congo. The Germans held four colonies, one in each of the realm's regions. The Portuguese held a small colony in West Africa and two large ones in Southern Africa.


After colonial rule was firmly established in Africa, the only change in possessions came after World War I. Germany's four colonies were placed under the League of Nations, which established a mandate system for other colonizers to administer the territories.

Result of Colonization:


The European colonial powers shared one objective in their African colonies; exploitation. But in the way they governed their dependencies, they reflected their differences. Some colonial powers were themselves democracies (the United Kingdom and France); others were dictatorships (Portugal, Spain). The British established a system of indirect rule over much of their domain, leaving indigenous power structure in place and making local rulers representatives of the British Crown. This was unthinkable in the Portuguese colonies, where harsh, direct control was the rule. The French sought to create culturally assimilated elites what would represent French ideals in the colonies. In the Belgian Congo, however, King Leopold II, who had financed the expeditions that staked Belgium's claim in Berlin, embarked on a campaign of ruthless exploitation. His enforcers mobilized almost the entire Congolese populations to gather rubber, kill elephants for their ivory, and build public works to improve export routes. For failing to meet production quotes, entire communities were massacred. Killing and maiming became routine in a colony in which horror was the only common denominator. After the impact of the slave trade, King Leopold's reign of terror was Africa's most severe demographic disaster. By the time it ended, after a growing outcry around the world, as many as 10 million Congolese had been murdered. In 1908 the Belgium government administrators, and the Roman Catholic Church each pursued their sometimes competing interest. But no one thought to change the name of the colonial capital: it was Leopoldville until the Belgian Congo achieved independence in 1960.

http://wysinger.homestead.com/berlinconference.html

Smilenw: Please answer me o...forget the woman, why did her hubby (im sure he'd have seen some signs in all these months) and siblings chose to remain silent. With all the maltreatment, she managed to get in her siblings in that very same hell hole. Im assuming they joined later as they are younger to her.

The husband is just like his wife - dumb.

No normal husband would hear this story and just keep quiet even if the wife was earning $1million .

This is our problem in nigeria - cowardice. Ive had a look at this ars.e wipes facebook page and the pic i saw was of a young man i was expecting an older guy, something needs to be done at least to show these people that we are not dumb animals that tolerate any kind of maltreatment.

neohitler: I'm German and i have always wondered why blacks kill each other more than any other race until i visited some African nations,all i saw was countries with rich mineral resources but poor citizens. i totally lost any respect had for blacks.Imagine congo with all it resources can't sustain itself.Austria,Sweden,Finland and Denmark are all small nations with populations of 3 million to 5 million people and with limited natural resources compared to African nations,but guess what all these countries are better than all African nations and even give aid to them.What's wrong with blacks

congo or DRC has had to deal with over 200 years of european ra.pe and theft of its natural resources. ever heard of king leopold? he was a belgian king that stole the whole of what is now known as DRC and turned it into his private property that is why belgium is so rich today. how did he get away with it? all you europeans ganged up against africa during the berlin conference and divided up the continent amongst yourselves as if you were dividing up a cake. this was possible because you had superior fire power, that position remains the same to date.

without africa's cheap minerals western europe would be a third world hell hole just like eastern europe - ever wondered why romania, bulgaria, czech republic and all those other eastern european backwaters look like sh.it? its because they were not able to steal from africa as the western european countries did not include them in the carving up of africa.

Congo is currently being devastated by warring militias who are armed and funded by europe and america, it is in the interest of the european and american mining corporations for war to carry on in drc because it makes it easier for them to extract minerals much more cheaply when the region is unstable.

the story is the same all over africa, europe and america and particularly europe need access to cheap african mineral resources in order to stay rich.

Smilenw: Jesus Christ !!!

Kicking a heavily pregnant woman on her stomach??! As in seriously ? Is he mentally stable? How old is he ...1 2?? That man needs immediate psychiatric help before he is locked up in the jail. Imagine if this is what he does to his subordinates, what would his wife be going through at home?!

Having said that, the whole thing smells fishy..this man physically assualts staff and nobody has ever lodged a complaint against him? Are they drugged or what?

She endured his slaps and kicks from April and yet clung to this horrible job? Really? She goes home with a swollen face and hubby didn't notice it not even once? On top of that she has 2 of her siblings there in that firm who kept on watching/hearing about their pregnant Aunty being punched all these months without retaliating even once? Were they actually waiting for something to happen to her to speak up? How many of us would remain quiet like that for months in a similar scenario?? She says many saw her being kicked and still did not help her? Is that how heartless we have turned into? As if these things were not enough they waited for 5 good days to lodge a complain...what in the world were they waiting for, xmas??

He would never do this to a white or arab woman - lebanese do not like blacks, go on to youtube and you will see videos of how the treat african migrant workers in their country.

If you are an african visiting their country you will not be allowed entry into most lebanese run places because they openly practice an aparthied system in their country where blacks are only allowed to do the lowest of menial jobs and are not allowed to interact with the indigenous people.

This man knew very well what he was doing, he is not mentally ill, he just has a deep contempt for blacks and we are part of the problem. had it been that his workers had dealt with him right from the beginning when he put his hands on them this situation would not have happenedn. The situation in nigeria with these foreigners in beginning to resemble the situation in south africa day by day.

At least the south african blacks rose up and refused to be kicked aroudn, our own situation is pathetic because all we do is bow our heads down and put up with it for the sake of starvation wages.

The next stage is for these foreigners to start creating whites only settlements in our country and throwing us off our own landbeleive you me that time is coming very soon and when it comes what is happening now will be like child's play.

noblejames: Nigerians are cowards in their homeland and unfortunate tigers across the shores of their country. It is very disheartening to know that Nigerians cannot stand on their feet and beat their cheat and say truly they are Nigerians in their own domain. I mean this cannot happen in any Arab country that I know for sure.. in one of the Arab countries that I have lived, you don't dare sack a citizen from his job.. what more laying your hand on him. Definitely, you have to answer some rigorous questions from their internal affairs ministry and every other relevant authorities, the person in question if he must go, will not go empty handed. Who the hell are you to beat an Arab citizen? And not just beating but beating a woman for that matter not just a woman a pregnant one indeed.... waow ... YOU HAVE JUST WAKE UP A SLEEPING LION.... That very company will eventually stop its operation no two ways about it. And here you are a Lebanese is using you as a punching bag and you are married, just because you want to save 17000naira job you turn yourself to MUMU. You cannot even let your husband know about it.... you can as well open your legs for him since you dont value your life and your integrity as a married woman. I can't believe that Nigerian women are falling this cheap! Come to think of it, where are this Occupy Nigeria group? This is the kind of job they should be facing in order to maintain and uphold the honour of Nigerian citizens not chasing shadows with Ngozi Iweala. Where are the lawyers in Nigeria? It is time to make money from this stupid Lebanese not going to court to protect looters and criminals in the society.

Very well said. Do you know that in Lebanon they do not allow black migrant workers to use the same restaurants, beaches, hotels and clubs as the indigenous lebanese people?

There are many youtube videos with evidence of this, i will post some later. These people regard black people as inferior thats why that man can come and live in nigeria, beat up his employees while other nigerian workers standing by watching him like foo.ls.

Let any black man go to lebanon and set up a business and try this? Actually i dont think a black man will even be permitted to run a business in Lebanon openly unless he uses a lebanese as a front man.

So there you have it, in our own country a racist lebanese can come in abuse our women and nothnig happens. i'm suprised the police agreed to even go there to arrest the man.

ibullem: I guess u think u are making sense, Sorry u are not.

explain?

Okonjo Iweala has nothing of value to offer Nigeria and its people, I don't even know why anyone would want to engage in a conversation about Nigeria's economy with this imperialist lap dog.

Like a well trained lap dog she is only good at following her master's instructions which is to plunge the living standards of average Nigerians lower and lower, she is a traitor and a sell out.

Traitor who demands to be paid in US dollars only, traitor who steals millions from her own people under the guise of co-ordinating a debt relief package. Shame on you Okonjo Iweala and all that you stand for one day you will pay for the crimes you have perpetrated against your own people.

Naijamericana: Black supremacy Dont be funny bros, it takes organization and a willingless to die for a cause to assume supremacy. Africans are not well organized. And as for dying, well thats a different story.

The third reich was well organized, have you watched old nazi propaganda films? Everything from preparing to go to war and the concentration camps where planned to the last detail. They truly believed in what they where doing was "right."

What Africa needs is revolution. We need to show other people that they cant treat us with disrespect and get away with it.

Zulu defeat of British:

The Battle of Isandlwana on 22 January 1879 was the first major encounter in the Anglo–Zulu War between the British Empire and the Zulu Kingdom. Eleven days after the British commenced their invasion of Zululand in South Africa, a Zulu force of some 20,000 warriors attacked a portion of the British main column consisting of about 1,800 British, colonial and native troops and perhaps 400 civilians.[12] The Zulus were equipped mainly with the traditional assegai iron spears and cow-hide shields,[13] but also had a number of muskets and old rifles[14] though they were not formally trained in their use.[15] The British and colonial troops were armed with the state-of-the-art[16] Martini-Henry breech-loading rifle and two 7 pounder artillery pieces as well as a rocket battery. Despite a vast disadvantage in weapons technology,[17] the numerically superior Zulus ultimately overwhelmed the poorly led and badly deployed[18] British, killing over 1,300 troops, including all those out on the forward firing line. The Zulu army suffered around a thousand killed.[19]

The battle was a decisive victory for the Zulus and caused the defeat of the first British invasion of Zululand.[20] The British Army had suffered its worst defeat against a technologically inferior indigenous force.[21] Isandlwana resulted in the British taking a much more aggressive approach in the Anglo–Zulu War, leading to a heavily reinforced second invasion[22] and the destruction of King Cetshwayo's hopes of a negotiated peace.[23]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Isandlwana

Naijamericana: Black supremacy Dont be funny bros, it takes organization and a willingless to die for a cause to assume supremacy. Africans are not well organized. And as for dying, well thats a different story.

The third reich was well organized, have you watched old nazi propaganda films? Everything from preparing to go to war and the concentration camps where planned to the last detail. They truly believed in what they where doing was "right."

What Africa needs is revolution. We need to show other people that they cant treat us with disrespect and get away with it.

stop talking rubbish didn't former black African slaves in Haiti defeat the French, british and Spanish and emancipate themselves from slavery?

Seun: I think she's safer in America. She could literally get AIDS in South Africa if she doesn't take refuge in the right areas. I think she's just being punished for having the temerity to say out loud what many others are thinking while being female and pretty. And being bad at her job too.

Have you engaged your brain yet?

Don't ever make the above statement in the presence of a white person.

mickjagger: We Africans have the power and control to create,perpetuate, and maintain brutal systematic racism that oppresses white people every day. As such, we have created this handy list on how to continue this oppression;

1. Enslave their bodies.
Ship them from Germany, Sweden, and other exotic countries.
Force them to build entire cities, roads, bridges. Force them to plant and harvest all the food everyone eats. Let an entire economic system be built on their backs, with their blood and sweat. Later, deny them access to the system they have been used to build, and accuse them of being extremely lazy.

2. Steal their land.
If they were here before you, steal their land. This is essential. Basically, just go in there and take it. If you have to kill some of them to get it…no worries. If you have to kill almost all of them to get it…sh1t, no worries. After you steal their land, make sure you create laws to keep them from ever returning to it. If they try to return anyway, build fences, and let bands of POC vigilantes patrol the borders with guns. If they somehow get past the borders and into your country, no worries, you can always just deport them.

3. Enslave their minds.
From these systems, build a long lasting institution of racism until all the violence and microaggressions make many white people into suspicious people with a lot of internalized self-hatred, health problems, and mental illnesses. Then deny them access to adequate mental health care. Or, adequate health care of any kind, while you’re at it.

4. Wipe out and/or appropriate their customs.
Since many of their customs are savage and unworthy of preserving, wipe out their traditions. Sometimes wear a beret and lederhosen, because Swedish culture is really exotic even though it’s inferior to ours.

6. Call them “honky”.
As Africans, we have been rightfully accused of being racist to white people, especially when we call them “honky”. As we all know,calling them “honky” is egregiously offensive and horribly shocking because of this long, violent,racist history.

7. Just keep being terrible to them.
Do everything you can think of to make it so that white people make less money; their children are shot by cops; white women are at higher risk for assault and they are exotified until they no longer seem human; white men are beaten and thrown into jails because they look “suspicious” and “threatening”; they are racially profiled everywhere they go.

8. Make sure most representations of them in the media are negative.
They should almost always be portrayed as pasty, stringy-haired, rhythm-less, sexless, uptight, and booooring. Also, there should be very few representations of them and when they’re portrayed at all, they should always only be the comic relief, the silent exotic sex object, or the incompetent sidekick. They are only allowed to be easily forgettable, one-dimensional characters. Sometimes use POC actors in white-face to portray these white people. By presenting this ONE image of them all the time, you will be able to ensure a widespread belief in their inferiority.

9. Remember, every time a white person thinks your behavior is unfair or wrong, tell them that they should stop being so sensitive! We live in a post-reverse-racial society now! Jeez.

nice one, sadly the irony of this post will go over the heads of many people on this thread.

anonimi: You can try but you may not succeed in telling blatant LIES just to strengthen your untenable position:



That was less than 70 years ago when whites were still acting as barbaric as we are doing in Africa today.

Or perhaps you have credible links showing that the US government also executed the black soldiers who fought on its side in the WW2

WORLD WAR II'S ECHOES : The Double V Campaign
Black Soldiers Battled Fascism and Racism
Veterans Remember Bitterness of Bias-Tainted Homecomings

A few months after the Allied victory in World War II, 24-year-old Capt. Harold Montgomery returned to the General Accounting Office at Fifth and G streets NW to reclaim his old job with the U.S. Post Office Department.

Since leaving 4 1/2 years earlier, Montgomery had led a heavy weapons company of the Army's all-black 92nd "Buffalo Soldiers" Infantry Division up the western coast of Italy through barrage upon barrage of German fire. He had watched wounded men die as shrapnel sliced through the plasma bags set up to give them transfusions. He had grinned and waved as cheering residents of liberated cities pressed flowers and bottles of wine into his hands.

But when the Washington native walked into the GAO's grand, high-ceilinged lobby, it was as though time had stood still. A large plaque honoring postal employees who had served in the war did not list Montgomery or any other African American veterans, he recalled. Worse still, a personnel manager informed him that he would not receive a pay raise given to returning white soldiers.

"To hell with that," retorted Montgomery, who resolved to find a different line of work.

Today, as the dedication of the National World War II Memorial approaches, the memory of their homecoming still gives Montgomery and many other black veterans a bitter twinge. At a series of events honoring the roughly 1 million African Americans who served in the war -- part of this weekend's salute to the World War II generation -- they will recall a fight waged on two fronts: against fascism overseas and against the racist laws and attitudes that oppressed blacks at home.


African American newspapers of the time called it the "Double V Campaign." And although the victory over the Axis powers was complete, the results of the second struggle were decidedly mixed.

The nation's unparalleled need for troops gave thousands of African American soldiers, including many in noncombat service units, the chance to prove their mettle in battle and put to rest the assertion by military brass that blacks lacked the courage, discipline and intelligence to fight effectively.

But black soldiers generally received few medals for their accomplishments. They were kept in segregated units, made to sit behind German prisoners of war during USO concerts and banished from the very streets they had liberated once white nurses moved in.


For James Strawder, one of more than 2,000 black soldiers who answered Gen. Dwight D. Eisenhower's call for black volunteers to replace white soldiers killed during the Battle of Bulge, the final indignity came after Germany's surrender, when the volunteers were immediately transferred back to all-black labor units as their white comrades in arms were being sent home or given more dignified assignments.

Strawder and the 200 other black volunteers at the Army post he was sent to refused to work. When their commanders threatened to court-martial and execute them for insubordination, the men marched to the stockade and dared them to go ahead.

"I had already risked death [in battle], I didn't give a john," Strawder, now 83, recalled.

The Army relented and allowed the men to return home on a ship bearing other combat troops. But President Harry S. Truman did not issue his order desegregating the military for three more years. At the war's end, Strawder saw little cause for hope.

"I was really disgusted with this country," he said. "I was angry, and I stayed angry for years."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A55650-2004May25.html

anonimi: The same way Oyos (yorubas) invaded other neighbouring longest time ago and made them pay ishakole (tax/rent) in exchange for "protection". Ditto for the fulanis who conquered the hausas and some other tribes in the north and middle belt.
Britain is ruled by a German family and has a substantial Polish population among others.
In short MOVEMENT/MIGRATION/WARS (and even genocide in the olden days) is the way of the world's HISTORY. Grow up and deal with it.



So you don't fight when you know you are not capable of winning.

Ti owo omode o ba ti te eku ida, kii bere iku to pa baba e- A child does not seek revenge against his father's murderer(s) UNTIL he becomes capable of dealing with them conclusively.

You learn to negotiate your way quietly but pragmatically as the Chinese have done for so many decades UNTIL recently.
That is the way of the wise.

There is a big difference between inter ethnic wars and wars waged by one race against the other.

Racial wars which have been waged by Europeans against Africans in one form or another for over 500 years have one aim - to ensure that Europeans and whites of European descent gain total control of all of Africa's resources to the exclusion of all Africans.

This is the reason why the entire African continent remains in a state of permanent turmoil -how do you compare that to inter ethnic wars which have a less damaging agenda.
as I have said earlier the intruding ethnic group does not set up settlements amongst the indigenous people of the land and relegate the original land owners to a position of subservience, they do not create a society which rewards people on the basis of race whilst simultaneously consigning the indigenous people to a position of sub humanity.

This however is the case in places like north America, Canada, Australia, new Zealand, south Africa , Zimbabwe ,Angola and Namibia.

Germans , British and Poles are all Europeans and are beneficiaries of white supremacy, they work as one entity against the interests of black Africans as has been demonstrated in the case of south Africa, where the dutch and british joined forces to abuse and subjugate the indigenous black south Africans. No European person or person of European descent would treat you more favourably than a pole or german. Infact the US govt treated german Nazi war criminals better than the black American soldiers who helped them defeat Nazi Germany!


If i am to follow your logic that you shouldn't fight unless you are capable of winning does that mean that you are saying that Africans should have sat back and allowed our women to be ra.ped by the European invaders, does it also mean that we should have stood by and watched while they took our able bodied men women and children and loaded them into slave ships like cattle?

Does it also mean that when they came back to colonise us we should have continued to stand by helplessly and watch while they built their govt reserved areas and excluded us from our own land?

I hope for your sake that is not what you are trying to tell me because if it is then I can only hope and pray that you do not raise any African children.

anonimi: We yorubas have a saying that I am sure has rough equivalents in other languages:



Were we forced to chase, raid and sell our own folks in LARGE numbers to Arabs and whites despite knowing the serious hardship they will face
And we did so for ludicruous price, did we not
Why are we the ONLY race to sell its people to others in such great quantity
Did you know some of the notable AFRICAN slave traders appealed to Britain to allow them continue selling their own folks after the whites abolished it?
Meanwhile the slave trade to the Arabs continues to date, even though in very small numbers.
Those are the FACTS we will have to learn to deal with and find ways to EVOLVE beyond them.

Its seems as if your knowledge of African history is missing some crucial parts eg the fact that we were INVADED by Europeans who were ARMED. Try going to a fight armed with a knife while your opponent has a gun and see how far you get.

The euroepans had the upper hand because they were militarily advanced they subsequently conquered us and FORCED US AT GUN POINT TO Enslave each other in order to avoid being enslaved ourselves. Its called divide and rule.

anonimi: No I am NOT mocking any VOLUNTARY victim of self-imposed consumption slavery.
Not at all.
I am saying if you cannot take the heat do not get into the kitchen. Surely that is simple enough for you to understand, right
If you cannot live WITHOUT the conveniences of goods & services invented, developed and refined by the whites then do not PROVOKE sanctions.
That is the stuff of WHINING babies.
QED!!!

Its like me taking back my stolen watch from you and you turning around to ban anyone from doing any kind of business with me for simply exercising my right to get back my stolen watch - JEEZ SOMETHING IS SERIOUSLY WRONG WITH THE MIND OF MANY AFRICANS IF THIS IS THE WAY WE THINK.



What do you know about the HISTORY of the UK and the ethnography of its CURRENT population
Or it is simply a question of colour/race?
It does not matter that Hausa/Fulanis, for example, are owners of Ilorin a yoruba town since they are also black, right
Nor does it matter to you that the family who controls Kwara state politics came from Mali less than 200 years ago since we are all black?

Self imposed consumption slavery - what does that mean?

the US/EU passed a law stipulating that Zimbabwe should not be granted access to international credit facilities what has that got to do with "self imposed consumption slavery". the united states would descend into anarchy if its access to international credit were cancelled overnight, all nations of the world rely on access to credit facilities in order to keep themselves afloat. the united states spends more than it earns and without credit almost everything in that country would come to a grinding halt, so whats your point?

which goods and services developed and refined by the white man - the majority of manufactured goods in the world now come from China and the so called third world

some of the greatest inventions in the world came from places like China, India and Africa not Europe, the European merely made advances in weaponry and warfare which enabled them to co-opt the inventions of other militarily weaker nations of the world.

Do you know of any non European group of settlers owning large and fertile tracts of land in the UK or any part of Europe for that matter?

So what if a family who controls Kwara state politice originated from Mali 200 years ago at least they are Africans, did they create a settlement of Malians in Kwara state? did they exclude the indigenous Kwara state indigenes from the land and relegate them to the most inhospitable parts of Kwara State, did they pass laws stipulating that the indigenous people must never go beyond a primary school education?

Hoodrat: Swedish scientists have identified a new strain of HIV that appears to progress much faster than most previously identified variations of the virus.

The new strain, known as A3/02, is a recombinant, meaning it is a cross between two previously identified HIV strains. Writing in the Journal of Infectious Diseases, Lund University researchers said that the infection moves from HIV to full-blown AIDS in about five years, nearly two- to two-and-a-half years faster than most previously known strains.


So far the new infection seems confined to West Africa.

WHY IS IT ALWAYS AFRICA? NOW IT'S WEST AFRICA. I hope that there is no 'political undertone' to this discovery.

http://gma.yahoo.com/scientists-aggressive-hiv-strain-111842347--abc-news-health.html.


Why blame the woman why not tackle the problem from the evil,greedy scientist diverting all sickness to africa.?

You asked why is it always Africa? My answer is "because we are fvvckng lazy." Imagine scientists from another continent telling us Jack & we believe. Where are our own scientists? Why don't they get to work & give us our own homegrown theories,findings,etc..? At least it would be things we can relate to better. Do we have to keep letting other people do everything for us? All we do is sit around lazying & crying that we are being "victimized. " I hate mental laziness with the whole of my life. I'm one of those people that believe that "IF YOU DON'T LIKE SOMETHING/YOUR CONDITION, DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT TILL IT CHANGES AT LEAST A LITTLE. DON'T JUST LAZY AROUND CRYING.
God Bless Nigeria. Amen.

YOur argument is flawed from start to finish.

the woman has to be blamed because she is a reflection of the society she was brought up in. America is a country built on a foundation of racial oppression, murder and hatred - she is merely a conduit of all of those negative traits.

If Africans were "fckng lazy" as you claim - why did they recruit millions of us to build up their own economies, as a matter of fact Europeans are the laziest human beings I have ever come across in my life, notice that all of the back breaking work is usually done by blacks. Who planted the cotton, tobacco, sugar cane? who cleared the swamps and built many of the grand buildings in the united states which remain standing till today? In south Africa who went down into the mines to excavate the gold and diamonds ?

who continues to do the back breaking work on the farms and in the mines of south Africa where much of that country's wealth comes from ?

in every African country the people who do the back breaking work are never Europeans but Africans.

Just incase you were not aware the west controls the media and they have used their control to destroy the image of the African people by depicting us to the whole world as a continent full of war ravaged victims, constantly engaged in tribal war fare and incapable of governing ourselves. All of this is a craftily contrived propaganda campaign designed to ensure that the whole world looks down on us. The only way we can counter this image is to become economically self sufficient and to have full control over how the world sees us, at the moment we don't control how we are portrayed to the rest of the world because everything we do has to be okayed by the west first. This is because our leaders are mere appendages of the west and will never do anything that goes against the interest of their masters. So your suggestion that we quit letting people do things for us is based on pure ignorance.

As a matter of fact we Africans are the ones doing everything for Europeans - we let them take our resources for next to nothing, we sell off all of our valuable assets to them for pennies, we let them take our most fertile land, create whites only settlements and then subsequently exclude us from our own land!!! if that is not taking advantage of a people I don't know what is.

Doing something to change the situation is not as easy as it sounds, Europe and America are nuclear powers we Africans can not even defend our individual borders, how do we stand up to them when we can not defend ourselves militarily? Don't you see how they tread with caution when dealing with little north korea, do you think they can abuse north korea the way they abuse and exploit the entire continent of Africa.

After they have finished using and abusing us they then turn around and tell us to forgive and forget as was the case in south Africa, as far as they are concerned the only good African is the African who allows himself to be used and abused.

safarigirl: who has Mugabe been begging? Can you present evidence to support your claim? The whites in Zimbabwe took land belonging to blacks FORCEFULLY and ILLEGALLY. If I get legal documents to open a shop in Lagos despite not being from there, how can you kick me out? All land belongs to the GOVERNMENT, not to any indigene, you can't buy land from the indigene, you buy from the government. Your logic is flawed

why bother with a victim of western media brainwashing?

Any non lagos indigenes who open shops in lagos have the right to own land there as long as they are Nigerian citizens, white europeans have no right to own land in a country where 90% of the population are poor and landless and should only be given renewable licences or short term leases which should be subject to conditions. There is no where in the world where blacks own land to the exclusion of the indigenous populations, what you will never tolerate in your own country should not be imposed on peoples of other countries of the world unless those other people are too stu.pid to recognise that they are being exploited - as I said earlier Mugabe did the right thing and I pray we Nigerians find a leader like him before our own country sinks under its current weight of corruption and mismanagement.

anonimi: And Mugabe has been BEGGING those who represent the people he took back the land from to free his country from sanctions. Is it not very foolish that you act WITHOUT pragmatism as if you are an island
BTW who told you the new owners are the rightful owners of the land

I guess you will have no problem if the land in Abuja, Lagos, Port Harcourt and other metropolitan cities are taken from the "non-indigenes" aka "settlers" and given to the "rightful owners", abi nor be so
You may want to find out how your people in your village came to where they are now and claim to be rightful owners thereof

Your way of reasoning is mind boggling - instead of CONDEMNING the US/EU who imposed sanctions unjustly on Zimbabwe you are actually mocking the victims of those sanctions - is something wrong with you?

Its like me taking back my stolen watch from you and you turning around to ban anyone from doing any kind of business with me for simply exercising my right to get back my stolen watch - JEEZ SOMETHING IS SERIOUSLY WRONG WITH THE MIND OF MANY AFRICANS IF THIS IS THE WAY WE THINK.

if black Zimbabweans are not the rightful owners who are the rightful owners the white Europeans who murdered, rap.d and burnt the homes of the indigenous people in order to get hold of the land?

are the occupants of land in Abuja, lagos and port Harcourt white Europeans ? are they not Nigerians - WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOUR BRAIN?

CAN YOU GO TO ANY VILLAGE IN THE UK kill the occupants, ra.pe the women, burn down their houses and set up a black only settlement there - TRY IT IF YOU WANT TO COMMITT SUICIDE!!

The sooner the black south Africans nationalise those gold and diamond mines in their country the better.

Let me see how this racist who.re will get the mouth to insult black Africans when her father's stolen wealth evaporates into thin air.

Mugabe did the right thing when he took back the stolen land and redistributed it to the rightful owners.

You steal from me and get rich off my god given resources and then you turn around to insult me, I don't blame you.

No hope for Nigeria as long as this murderous and money addicted bunch of bandits remain in the corridors of power.

The united states is a country known for carrying out medical experiments on people it regards as "dispensable or of no value to society" eg blacks, gays, the disabled.

check out united states govt involvement in the following:

Tuskegee syphilis experiment -US govt fails to treat black American peasants who contracted syphilis in order to track the "natural progression" of the disease.

The Tuskegee syphilis experiment[1] was an infamous clinical study conducted between 1932 and 1972 by the U.S. Public Health Service to study the natural progression of untreated syphilis in rural African American men who thought they were receiving free health care from the U.S. government.[1]

The Public Health Service, working with the Tuskegee Institute, began the study in 1932. Investigators enrolled in the study a total of 600 impoverished sharecroppers from Macon County, Alabama; 399 who had previously contracted syphilis before the study began, and 201[2] without the disease. For participating in the study, the men were given free medical care, meals, and free burial insurance. They were never told they had syphilis, nor were they ever treated for it. According to the Centers for Disease Control, the men were told they were being treated for "bad blood", a local term for various illnesses that include syphilis, anemia, and fatigue.

The 40-year study was controversial for reasons related to ethical standards; primarily because researchers knowingly failed to treat patients appropriately after the 1940s validation of penicillin as an effective cure for the disease they were studying.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuskegee_syphilis_experiment

I know this bi.tch is too st.upid to undertake research but if at all she is able to she should research into where HIV originated from and she will be very surprised to find that it is a biological weapon of warfare developed by her own country initially created to wipe out "undesirable population groups" in the united states eg blacks and homosexuals - the bit.ch should ask herself why these two groups in America have sustained the highest casualties since the creation of this virus in the early 1980s. Its use was subsequently extended to the black populations of Africa whose areas are high in valuable natural resources eg south Africa(diamonds and gold) Botswana(diamonds) angola (oil), Nigeria (oil) . Under the auspices of providing small pox vaccines these satanic demons in collaboration with the World Health Organisation contaminated thousands of vaccines by lacing them with this deadly virus which has culminated in the hiv epidemic that is now present in many parts of south Africa and parts of west Africa.

HIV aids is a creation of US intelligence designed to wipe out future generations of young Africans in order to ensure that the whites retain their ignominious hold over our natural resources without any obstruction or challenge from future generations of Africans.

The s.tupid bi.tch is already riddled with chlamydia, gonorrhoea and other deadly STDs so HIV aids will just be the icing on the cake for her. Hope the bit.ch's plane crashes and she's the only casualty.

ImperialYoruba: Out of all the cultures in Nigeria, Yoruba women have the best of equitable and respectful treatment in their household and relationship with husbands, particularly in expression of viewpoints their voice is never shut out. There is visibly a breakdown of proper communication channells in Obasanjo's household and one has to wonder why, given his status.

His household is venting and using the public to reach and tell him what ought to be told privately in family meeting. This could mean he does not keep an open door policy with members of his household and they find him closed to approach. How about Uncles and Aunts and other heads in the extended family to use as conduits? This is a disfunctional family.

Men that are gifted with abundant testosterone are always lacking in soft social skills where emotional empathy and the warmness of heart is needed to relate and support. Therefore they fail in marriages because they are unable to give to the household what it needs to stay put in longevity. Not finding support the wife rebels and takes her grief and children away with her. These men have best appeal and women find them sexually irresistable. Woman after woman, no time to share affection with his children and soon the coldness puts a distance and resentment in the children. Where do we find these men? What they lack at home they posess in society. They are superbly successful in running systems, whether strategic or tactical. They are the best in their career field. Look at people who have great success in military, politics, finance and banking, oil and energy, science and engineering, computing and technology, news media and publishing and so on. Their wealth is what holds their silently suffering family together.

Like this woman said, she is not only one in this predicament. If the wives of high grade military generals and wives of super successful politicians or engineers and technologists and inventors were to come forward with their stories, our jaws will hang so low it will drag on ground from shock and speechlessness.

What Im trying to say is, this news has zero national relevance, we should ignore it.

If Yoruba women experience the best treatment in marriage how come so many of them are divorced, living apart from their husbands or have simply been abandoned? Even the ones who claim to be married are forever hopping in and out of bed with other men.

I hope you are not insinuating that obasanjo was successful at running Nigeria because I can tell you in no uncertain terms that he was a categorical failure on all levels, is it the billions he handed over to the paris club for a phantom debt, or is it the massacre of innocents in zaki biam and odi, or is it the wholesale handing over of valuable govt assets to predatory foreign investors for a pittance, or is it the appointment of world bank puppet okonjo iweala who has assisted in the whole sale economic rap.e of Nigeria, I could go on and on.

sycophancy and ignorance are the twin diseases we have in Nigeria that will surely kill many of us.

charity as they say begins at home, show me a man who can not run a successful home and I will show you an all round failure.

You keep strings of women , you don't know how many children you have and yet you have the impudence to regard yourself as an elder statesman, why should any one respect someone with zero moral discipline, leaders are supposed to lead by example but in Nigeria its a case of do as I say and I will do as I please. Its a good job that 90% of Nigerians do not have properly functioning brains.

In a normal society this man would have been treated worse than a leper.

So you think women find sexual perverts who sleep with their own son's wives irresistible? do you think the women who sleep with him are going for him because of his charisma, charm and outstanding good looks or for his money and position?

Obasanjo is only relevant because he still has some remnants of power in Nigeria, this is the only reason why he has people defending him, the real people who will tell him the truth are his family members like his daughter and ex wife who he has treated shabbily.

One thing you can take from this is that arrogance does not pay, Obasanjo is arrogant and he is also a narcissist, he has such a high opinion of himself that he thought that he could continue to treat people like garbage and get away with it but look at what is happening to him now, his own flesh and blood are coming out to expose his nyash in public, talk about chickens coming home to roost!

Good for the old ba.stard, next time he will learn to keep his dirty mouth shut.

how can someone who has played such an ignominious role in the running of Nigeria castigate a fellow criminal for doing the exact same thing. This man's hypocrisy knows no bounds. I am happy his harem of ex wives and numerous children are coming out of the woodwork to expose him for the ugly, greedy, megalomaniac that he is, its just that Nigerians hate the truth, it is obvious that this old fool has many enemies but many are still keeping their mouths shut because they are gaining something from him, let his money run out tomorrow and you will see a steady flow of open letters being written by many of the same bootlickers that are defending him today.

Adaobi12: 4 me, when u want to pick beautiful ladies,let dm match out without make up,artificial hair,and jewelrries. Then we wil know who is beautiful. As 4 nw,dy are al MAKE UP BEAUTY.
By d way who put those 2 ghanaian shorties, yvonne okoro and jackie,dia?

Thank you, take off the wigs, the make up and lets see who will be left standing,