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igbo2011: I don't like her husband but the thing is just because she Is educated at harvard those that mean shee gets educated for black people? Does harvard educate to benefit all blaclkl people or educated to seerve the elite. Harvard will teach her thaat Africans are the most inferior people on the planet.

You said she didn't forget where she came from. My question is what exactly did she or does she do for the black community?

No it doesnt mean that she is educated for black people, beleive me i am not even a lover of the ivy league colleges in the western world because as you correctly stated they educate blacks to look down on their own people, with Michelle Obama however she comes across (and this is just my opinion, i may be wrong) as humble, genuine and sincere DESPITE being educated in those racist colleges

I think what she has done for black people and in particular black women in america is restore their self esteem - she has made it possible for black american women with brown skins to feel that they are not just welfare queens, loud mouthed and ignorant but intelligent career women who are capable of marrying educated black men on the same level as themselves and that to be a successful black woman you dont have to look like a mixed race woman. The white corporate media defines what a successful black woman should look like and majority of the time the person does not look like Michelle Obama.

interesting analysis from a former economist during Reagan' administration, Kaydee try reading this, you might learn something.

Obama has zero power or control over america's domestic or foreign policy , no US president has real power, the banks and multinational corporations run america oh and the Jewish lobby and their every demand is implemented by congress most of whom are on the payroll of these special interst groups, the last US president who tried to go against the special interest groups ie the banks, the military industrial complex, the multinational corporations wound up with his head blown off. The elections are just a dog and pony show - an illusion used to deceive the american people into thinking that they have a say in the running of their country - they dont. What sort of a choice do you have when both candidates are two sides of the same coin? Both Obama and Romney are servants of wall street, the military industrial complex, the corporations and the oil companies - stop deceiving yourself that you live in a democratic nation, just the other day Obama passed the NDAA which effectively allows the govt to arrest and detain american citizens indifinitely without due process.

The Special Interests Won Again - by Dr Paul Craig Roberts

The election that was supposed to be too close to call turned out not to be so close after all. In my opinion, Obama won for two reasons: (1) Obama is non-threatening and inclusive, whereas Romney exuded a “us vs. them” impression that many found threatening, and (2) the election was not close enough for the electronic voting machines to steal.

As readers know, I don’t think that either candidate is a good choice or that either offers a choice. Washington is controlled by powerful interest groups, not by elections. What the two parties fight over is not alternative political visions and different legislative agendas, but which party gets to be the LovePeddler for Wall Street, the military-security complex, Israel Lobby, agribusiness, and energy, mining, and timber interests.

Being the LovePeddler is important, because whores are rewarded for the services that they render. To win the White House or a presidential appointment is a career-making event as it makes a person sought after by rich and powerful interest groups. In Congress the majority party can provide more services and is thus more valuable than the minority party. One of our recent presidents who was not rich ended up with $36 million shortly after leaving office, as did former UK prime minister Tony Blair, who served Washington far better than he served his own country.

Wars are profitable for the military/security complex. Israel rewards its servants and punishes its enemies. Staffing environmental regulatory agencies with energy, mining, and timber executives is regarded by those interests as very friendly behavior.

Many Americans understand this and do not bother to vote as they know that whichever candidate or party wins, the interest groups prevail. Ronald Reagan was the last president who stood up to interest groups, or, rather, to some of them. Wall Street did not want his tax rate reductions, as Wall Street thought the result would be higher inflation and interest rates and the ruination of their stock and bond portfolios. The military/security complex did not want Reagan negotiating with Gorbachev to end the cold war.

What is curious is that voters don’t understand how politics really works. They get carried away with the political rhetoric and do not see the hypocrisy that is staring them in the face. Proud patriotic macho American men voted for Romney who went to Israel and, swearing allegiance to his liege lord, groveled at the feet of Netanyahu. Obama plays on the heart strings of his supporters by relating a story of a child with leukemia now protected by Obamacare, while he continues to murder thousands of children and their parents with drones and other military actions in seven countries. Obama was able to elicit cheers from supporters as he described the onward and upward path of America toward greater moral accomplishments, while his actual record is that of a tyrant who codified into law the destruction of the US Constitution and the civil liberties of the American people.

The election was about nothing except who gets to serve the interest groups. The wars were not an issue in the election. Washington’s provoking of Iran, Russia, and China by surrounding them with military bases was not an issue. The unconstitutional powers asserted by the executive branch to detain citizens indefinitely without due process and to assassinate them on suspicion alone were not an issue in the election. The sacrifice of the natural environment to timber, mining, and energy interests was not an issue, except to promise more sacrifice of the environment to short-term profits. Out of one side of the mouth came the nonsense promise of restoring the middle class while from the other side of the mouth issued defenses of the offshoring of their jobs and careers as free trade.

The inability to acknowledge and to debate real issues is a threat not only to the United States but also to the entire world. Washington’s reckless pursuit of hegemony driven by an insane neoconservative ideology is leading to military confrontation with Russia and China. Eleven years of gratuitous wars with more on the way and an economic policy that protects financial institutions from their mistakes have burdened the US with massive budget deficits that are being monetized. The US dollar’s loss of the reserve currency role and hyperinflation are plausible consequences of disastrous economic policy.


How is it possible that “the world’s only superpower” can hold a presidential election without any discussion of these very real and serious problems being part of it? How can anyone be excited or made hopeful about such an outcome?

http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2012/11/07/the-special-interests-won-again/

CuntDestroyer: whatever, we got a H.N.IC. in the white house and thats all that counts.

but he does not represent the interests of black americans or blacks anywhere else in the world for that matter.
Goldman sachs bankrolled his first presidential election campaign and most of his cabinet is made up of former wall street investment bankers - he is a puppet:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k45agM9K5rA

CuntDestroyer: The Beauty of Obama's re-election has all the hallmarks of the 60's. The civil liberties struggle of Dr. King and Malcolm X are coming to fruition and the most beautiful thing about it is that the Hippy generation of white America that actively demanded for equality i.e. their kids and grand Kids are more than active in exercising their vote. They did not buy into the upper echelon white pedigree b.s. rather they voted for fairness and for a man who made them believe that they have some one who understands and can relate to them irrespective of skin color. Not another George Bush in the form of a m0r0nic mormorn nut sack.

One thing you must understand about the civil rights movement is that it died in the 1960s along with MLK and Malcolm X - almost every single radical black leader who tried to rally black americans during this period was either murdered by the US govt, incarcerated for life or in permanent exile . The survivors who agreed to co-operate were bought off (Jesse Jackson, Rev Sharpton)

Today any black leader who tries to speak out is demonised, ridiculed and discredited (like Rev Wright and Louis Farrakhan).

ever heard of COINTELPRO (counter intelligence programme) it was a covert operation conducted by the FBI and one of its many objectives was to PREVENT THE RISE OF A BLACK MESSIAH:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=Zejpx_1Fs5w&NR=1

I dont know how Obama can live with himself after knowing the truth:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKpCH7OS2nc

^^^^^

This pastor is brilliant.

Im not a fan of Obama but his former pastor is spot on:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ix-AMYos0Js&feature=related

The world bank lackey is forever making up stories in order to cover up her crimes, i warned nigerians about this woman and everything i said is now happening, this woman is a criminal, you let her get away with it the first time when she scammed you of $35 billion which she transferred into the coffers of her masters in america and europe, she made her brother in america an overnight millionaire with the money she and Obasanjo looted from nigerian's foreign reserves , as if that wasnt bad enough she is back again to send many nigerians to an early grave, get ready for the next round of "subsidy removals" come January 2013.

and he is one of them.

shymexx: What do I think?? Bwahahahahaha

I concur that America has some intelligent critical thinkers - who don't believe the "kool-aid" their government feeds them... However, they're labelled as "conspiracy theorists" - and that's problematic for a country that prides itself as the "epicentre" of freedom-of-speech...

As for Nigerians, most of them are like "parasites" - they go wherever the "host" goes... America is the number one country in the world now, so expect them to continue to recite the trash they see in the Western media - till there's a new "kid/host" on the "block.".... What do you expect from people who still kill one another over foreign religions??

The late Gore Vidal:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tD0p-wfCARk




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Em7j63EiLSk&feature=related

[quote author=Mr. Globe]funny some say obama is a puppet, question is which American prez is noy a puppet. All American presidents are controlled by a clique, the real unseen masters, you cant go against the order. only person wanted to go against them was J.F Kennedy and you know what they did to him.[/quote]that's true - and thats why i dont really hold anything against him because i know that his hands are tied.

if the ruling class of america could do this to one of their own:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iU83R7rpXQY


imagine what they would do to a mixed race man who only got to where he is with their assistance?

shymexx: What do you expect? Most yanks are very gullible... I don't know if it's the genetically modified foods they eat in the country, or their educational system, but most of them are robots.... And Nigerians are the most gullible people on this planet - them ones just recite everything they read in the western media without understanding what the hell they're reading...

Don't waste your time trying to educate these people, most of them are still 10 years behind the time... I think you should take your talent to the Guardian UK CIF - they have a daily Middle East live thread - trust me you would meet like minded educated Britons on there... Most Brits can see through the yanks and the UK government anyway - and the British Liberals are the most educated and intelligent in the world - they tell it as it is...

You need to check out Seumas Milne of the Guardian...

at least with the americans you can find some who actually have a functioning brain - i mean look at the likes of the late gore vidal who was an absolute intellect but with nigerians its absolutely depressing, i have come across one or two nigerian intellectuals but they are usually academics who specialise in political science or history but when you speak to run of the mill nigerians who claim to be educated its so depressing none of them know anything about anything that matters and it really frightens me and i think this is why the nigerian elite rule over them with such impunity becuase they know that 99% of them are just stark illiterates, its really really depressing. here in the UK you will get people who didnt even go to university who are just so clued up about everythign but with nigerians its just the reverse, i can't see nigeria making any kind of substantial progress in the next 20 years because the level of ignorance is just so depressingly high.

what do you think?

shymexx: Do you actually believe that a guy named; Osama Bin Laden was killed by the US special force in Pakistan - if you do, can you show me a proof that he was killed(I want the type of proof George Bush showed the world when Sadam Hussein was killed)? Osama died a long time ago... The late Benazir Bhutto alluded to this before she was assassinated in 2007... The Osama nonsense was just an idiotic rubbish by Bush to continue US' war in Afghanistan - and Obama continued the nonsense till the US Special Forces' hollywood-esque assassination... There's absolutely nothing BRAVE about faking the assassination of a man who died a long time ago!

bros please help me tell them - this is a man who had kidney problems and was on a dialysis machine for years - a man that died in the 1990s and all of a sudden was resuscitated by the Obama administration in order to garner support for a waning administration.

Arab Spring in Tunisia, Yemen, and Egypt were a popular uprising by the people, however, it was hijacked in the middle by the CIA ... The US was also caught by surprise and they had to hijack it and install the Islamist puppets there - to gain control over the people.... Islamists in Tunisia, Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt, and Islamists in Yemen...

Google Tantawi and the CIA - Field Marshall Tantawi was Mubarak's second in command - when the egyptian people decided to take their destiny into their own hands the CIA decided to infiltrate the movement and Tantawi was imposed by the CIA on the Egyptian people but the Egyptians are smarter than nigerians because they understand that america is at the root of all of their problems

However, the uprising in Libya and Syria were orchestrated by the CIA - and the end right now shows that Obama's foreign policy might actually end up worse than that of Bush... Libya is already Somalia 2.0 and it's going to be like that for a long time... Syria is already on its way to abyss, Syria will never be the same again - the country has now been fractured along faith line and the war is never going to end....

thank you bro, Obama at the end of the day has no real power, he is just a wall street puppet - Goldman Sachs were the highest contributors to his 2008 election campaign - he is just a front man. did you know that Goldman Sachs stole $1billion dollars from Libya's sovereign wealth fund and when Qadaffi demanded either a refund of the money or controlling shares in the bank libya found itself facing the full might of NATO. can you imagine that dumb arsed fool they call Okonjo Iweala ever voicing any kind of discontent over america's financial plunder of nigeria ? that dumb arsed caricature of a woman has already transferred a staggering $35 BILLION US DOLLARS INTO THE COFFERS OF THE PARIS CLUB COURTESY OF A FAKE DEBT REPAYMENT SCAM THAT SHE SET UP TO ENRICH HERSELF and OBASANJO - dumb nigerians are still kissing this woman's arse like there's no tomorrow. no wonder white people look at us with utter contempt.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efb1M3EqMus&feature=related

tiny Cuba that has been under an economic blockade from the united states for over 50 years is able to provide free education and health care to its citizens and yet oil rich nigeria can not provide the most basic care and support to its own citizens and this animal has the animal boldness to open mouth where human beings are to give advice to Obama of all people !!! - i dont blame him - nigerians are just cowards - in a normal society this bastard would have been six feet under by now.

the bastard forgot that his own president DIED in a Saudi Arabian hospital because useless incompetent shameless nigerian politicans are not even capable of having a fully functioning hospital in their own country SHAME ON ALL OF THESE RETA.RDED BASTARDS!!!! and you still have the guts to criticise Saudi Arabia's human rights record - God punish all of them!!

I am very sure that if you look into this low lifes background you will find that he is on Romney's payroll - this is how cheap and worthless nigerian politicans are - they are nothing but political pros.titutes - available to the highest bidder - shame on all of them!

I have so much love and respect for the late Muammar Qadaffi who acheived so much for his people and tried to stand up to the satanic forces of the united states of america, britain, france and israel not low life sambos who are terrified of upsetting their masters in washington and london like the sambos who run the so called federal republic of nigeria.

thelastPope: You are right but it takes away from the debate. If you say only those who are 100% spotless can comment or make points in society, then this forum will not even exist. It will be more appropriate to attack him in another topic that directly addresses him

sorry mate, but this man is a former member of the nigerian govt he is not just an ordinary member of the public, as a result he is subject to a higher level of accountability than ordinary nigerian citizens, for him to even have the audacity to stand in judgement on a US president shows just how arrogant and s.tupid he is , nigeria for all intents and purposes is nothing but a weak satellite client state of america and britain - in the final analysis nigeria has zero power or influence it is nothing but an errand boy of america and britain, it cant even begin to put up the kind of resistance that libya put up against NATO if it were to be attacked so where does this scumbag get off trying to talk and act like a don when he is nothing but a little errand boy of american and british banks and multinational corporations?

thelastPope: But you are only proven his point. You just called Obama a war criminal. lol

if you re read my post you will find that i said that i am not a fan of Obama - of course Obama is a war criminal because he gave the green light for the invasion of libya and Ivory coast - my point is that this bastard is pretending to be this holier than thou neutral observer when in actual fact he is a devious, cynical collaborator who only voices his discontent when it suits him - this man is a complete disgrace to humanity.

an entire town made up of black libyans (tawergha) was decimated by nato and the nato backed ntc rebels.

where was this hopeless fool when all of this was happening?

why didnt this fool challenge his fellow coward in govt Goodluck Jonathan who SUPPORTED THE NTC REBELS WHO WERE KILLING HIS OWN PEOPLE!

These people are a disgrace to the black race and should be wiped off the surface of this planet.

where was this bastard when america dropped 100 tomahawk missiles on libya in one week ,last year?

where was this bastard when black libyans were being slaughtered by the NATO backed NTC rebels.

where was this bastard when nigerians resident in libya were being disembowelled by the NATO backed NTC - God must surely punish this man.=!

this man is a complete disgrace to Cambridge University - i just learnt that the retar.d attended Cambridge Univeristy - he is testament to the fact that academic qualifications do not equate to intelligence.

modicum: The American Presidential election will take place in a few days time and frankly

The gradual turning of America into a quasi- welfarist state where ''big government'' reigns and in which the traditional engine room of growth that is known as the American middle class is being systematically weakened and destroyed. The desecration of the traditional family unit and good old fashioned christian values by the adoption of strange and liberal "new age'' practices, values and philosophies. The inability to protect the lives of American diplomats living abroad and the lack of firm reprisals after the killing of the American Ambassador and other Americans by terrorists in Libya. The massive foreign debt that America has acquired in the last four years. The huge quantum of cash that America is is now owing China and so on and so forth.

only God will punish this s.tupid man for describing america as a quasi welfarist state when america is currently in the process of rolling back centuries of progress that were made by the working class people of america who fought for the right to decent pay and humane working conditions for ordinary working people as well as the huge sacrifices made by black americans during the civil rights protests of the 1960s for the right to be entitled to the same opportunities as their white fellow americans, this man is nothing but a political pro.stitute and a cold cynical manipulator of the truth, he can play his tricks on dumb unassuming nigerians living in nigeria but not on nigerians living in the west who know the truth.

you have to give it to these s.tupid nigerian politicians their s.tupidity and arrogance really knows no bounds - here we have an ignorant fool who can not boast of acheiving anything useful for his own people passing judgement on a US president , i am not a fan of Obama but i want to know where a nonentity whose time in govt was spent robbing his own people blind gets the balls to stand in judgement on Obama.

Why is this dumbarse so perturbed about Obama bowing down before the Saudi King, isnt this the same way Obasanjo bows down before the IMF and the Paris club and isnt this the same way that Goodluck Jonathan bowed down before Hilary Clinton when she visited nigeria. for anyone who is in doubt try and take a look at a picture of Goodluck Jonathan and Hilary Clinton during her last visit to nigeria and check out Jonathan's body language - totally subservient, submissive and lacking of any sign of authority- so why is this fool getting his knickers in a twist over Obama and the Saudis ? It is a well known fact that the Saudis have investments in the united states running into trillions of dollars, they are also one of america's biggest creditors therefore it makes sense to keep your benefactors on side, what is the nigerian govts excuse for having their tongue firmly clamped up america and britain's rear end? cos all i see from their relationship with those two powers is one sided exploitation in favour of britain and america.

the idea that a nigerian govt official can actually have the audacity to criticise saudi arabia's human rights records is beyond breathtaking - at least the saudis look after their own citizens - how many saudis do you see running away to just about any country on the earth in order to escape crippling poverty and misery in their own country? this shameless fool seems to forget that the saudi populace enjoy one of the highest standards of living in the arab world and want for nothing (except human rights), just recently their king doled out billions of dollars in allowances to its citizens that wanted to join the arab spring and we never heard from them again - what has the useless nigerian govt ever done for its own citizenry apart from lower their standard of living year after year and plunge them into even greater desperation and poverty? this idi.ot talks about women's rights in saudi - what rights do women in nigeria have? - the right to become pro.stitutes and mistresses to bandit politicians like him? at least the saudi women are provided for and live in a safe clean environment with running water, constant electricity, fully functional hospitals and affordable housing - can this id.iot boast of providing any of this for his own people?

The bastard then goes on to talk about the zionist state of Israel - did this man attain any level of higher education because he sounds really thick - is this fool unaware of Israel's persecution of the palestinians?

I will not even dignify the other comments he made about Obama with a response because they sound like the ramblings of a reta.rded child.

However his comments about Iran indicate to me that this man is either a complete blithering id.iot with zero iota of intelligence or a dangerous and manipulative liar - it is a well known fact even to american intelligence agencies that Iran is not trying to develop a nuclear bomb - the americans are simply looking for an excuse to attack iran that they can sell to their citizens, so just as they invented the WMD lies about Iraq in order to justify an attack on that country that is the same way they are AGAIN! trying to find an excuse that will justify an attack on Iran and i have a funny feeling that this toe rag of a man knows this but for whatever reason is lying through his teeth.

Iran is a signatory to the non proliferation treaty which allows them to develop nuclear energy for domestic use , the International Atomic Agency has carried out inspections of all nuclear energy sites in the country and they have confirmed that there is no sign of the development of a nuclear weapons programme - thsi has also been confirmed recently by russia - so what is this dumb buffoon talking about?

nigeria's military might only extends as far as acting as a houseboy for america and britain. nigeria goes to places like somalia, sierra leone and liberia to clean up the mess created by britain and america.

they send their own troops to die so that american and british multinationals can continue to ra.pe these countries of their resources without any obstruction from nationalist groups or other opposition groups within those countries. So really and truly nigeria is the biggest uncle tom you can imagine because instead of using its supposed power and postion to come to the aid of other african nations and work towards a panafrican solution to the eurocentric and white supremacist domination and exploitation of africa and its resources it acts as an enforcer for american and british banks and multinational corporations.

Nigeria is a nation run by slaves and servants of america and europe and they have no sense of dignity, self pride or nationalism - to talk about nigeria's need to strengthen its military is mising the point - nigeria relies on america and britain for military training and ammunition, nigeria's leadership are so cowed and beaten down mentally that they are terrified of doign anything that will upset their masters in washington and london - all they are good for is killing their own people and stealing - the majority of nigerian people are still in a coma and do not understand the set up, they do not understand that their own govt works in collaboration with western banks and multinational to keep them poor and oppressed.

But to answer the op's question - yes military strength is definitely a reflection of a country's might - do you think if russia did not develop their war machine in less than 10 years their country would have been able to defeat nazi germany?

do you think that if america did not have the military machine it has today it could open up over 700 military bases in country's all over the world?

do you think that america could invade and destroy sovereign countries without the military might it has?

Africa's failure to defend itself from european invasion is why the bulk of our people were enslaved and remain the underclass everywhere in the world.

this is just the beginning of worse to come

nice one chris rock

Bidemi - this is for you:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vokvW-SXUnc

black people who live among whites should understand that they are not wanted there, live among your own people and stop trying to attaach yourself to people who dont want you - would she have been treated like this by those white neighbours if she were white? i dont think so.

may the souls of those two young boys RIP.

the western music industry always put african entertainers in a separate category because they dont think they are good enough to compete with their own entertainers thats what they've done with d banj - but d banj in my opinion is not even talented so who really cares?

thoth: Those are recruited for Africom , they are meant to be used in intel gathering,persuasions, psychological Operiations, infiltrations, raising local terrorist cells and general Subversive tacticts.
The whole 2015 Balkanization game is one and these are readied for the post balkanized nigeria, imagine you have Biafra and Biafrans wanted to be unaligned in other words not dominated by USA policies these assets will be deployed and infiltrates the state and as long as western styled democracy is practiced by biafrans a select few of there assets would emerge as politicians and would recieve the widest support both financial and media coverage by the western media while the true nationalistic opponents will be demonized and shunned by the same media and other imperialistic agencies since after analysis these ones can not support western exploitative and anti people policies.
All these operations will result in people voting for the Western puppet or the election being rigged as a result of the massive financial backing and the general tendency for Africans to believe that everything the whiteman recommends for them is good for them.
These agents when elected will now carry out the imperialistic policies of these foreign powers and have the nation exploited by their multinationals while the people blame it on their corrupt leaders and wait patiently for another 4 years while the neocolonialist takes root.
On most cases on pre-balkanization stages these agents are used to direct and align the groups secretly to move in the direction the imperialist powers decides by financing them and making them prominent and important to the groups thereby giving them much influence over the decisions these groups leaders makes for the masses, assuming a northern US asset is becomes important to the north cus he has proved to have power to provide modern weapons en masse when needed(the bait) another will have the power the finance any project(second bait) the north would rely on them and they can have considerable influence over any decision over the northern course of actions thereby turning the whole northern front a proxy imperialist tool.
These two elements above are being financed and sponsored by the USA and assuming the Biafrans had also been successfuly infiltrated the imperialist can play both sides to achieve their goals more effectively, they would fight when american wants and stops fighting when america wants, america decides who wins and who looses.
This form of subversion needs great planning and headstart if it is to work and americans knew that, they already have a long headstart and it now depends on whether they can indoctrinate and implement it smoothly.

I always enjoy reading your analysis because you are always spot on. Its a shame that very few nairalanders reason like you.

do you think the americans will deploy some nigerians to fight in iran or is this recruitment exercise solely in respect of the coming balkanisation of nigeria?

why not to join the US military:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ZgVxvjwF4Q4#!

kcswat: this cap28 no d try. just because they didnt invite yoruba. [b][/b]SMH

stop talking crap - i'm igbo but a detribalised one - at the end of the day the white man can not tell the difference between igbo, yoruba and hausa - all they see is a black pawn who will be used to make up the numbers - the us army are experiecing a shortage of soldiers hence their decision to fill up those spaces with igbos and hausas.