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Wallie: Bidemi are you new on NL? The guy you're talking to is nicknamed cap-the-fraustrated! The guy is long gone! I honestly thought the guy jumped off the London bridge to end it all when I stopped seeing posts about his conspiracies. The guy couldn't make way in UK for one reason or another and probably got denied US visa but he's too ashamed to go back to Naija, hence, his frustration! I'm willing to bet the guy is schizophrenic.

kashmo: You are so damn wrong and out of order for that statement! The US Army is very strict on Equal Oppurnity complains and racism still persists, but I can tell you first hand that the US Amry has a zero tolerance when cases like this arises.

kashmo: Okay, I had to jump on this matter. I've read couple comments made here & they just don't add up to what the US Army stands for. You've to be in the Organistaion to understand the ins and out of it, and what i see from folks here are opinions plucked out of thin air.
And this goes to you Cap28, how the heck did you come up with that statement about the US Army being filled with Rapist, Drug Addicts and Gang Members?

The modern US army: unfit for service?
Gone are the days of the all-American army hero. These days, the US military is more like a sanctuary for racists, gang members and the chronically unfit



My journey into the dark underworld of the US military begins on a rainy Tuesday morning in March 2008, with a visit to Tampa, Florida. I am here to meet Forrest Fogarty, an American patriot who served in the US army for two years in Iraq. Fogarty is also a white supremacist of the serious Hitler-worshipping type.


Fogarty was not the first extremist to enter the armed forces. The neo-Nazi movement has had a long and tense relationship with the US military. Since its inception, the leaders of the white supremacist movement have encouraged their members to enlist. They see it as a way for their followers to receive combat and weapons training, courtesy of the US government, and then to bring what they learn home to undertake a domestic race war. Not all far-right groups subscribe to this vision – some, such as the Ku Klux Klan, claim to prefer a democratic approach – but a large portion see themselves as insurrectionary forces. To that end, professional training in warfare is a must.

The US military has long been aware of these groups' attempts at infiltration, but it wasn't until 1996 that supremacist and neo-Nazi groups were specifically banned from the military, after the murder in 1995 of two African-Americans by a neo-Nazi paratrooper stationed at Fort Bragg, North Carolina. Fogarty was recruited the year after.

He knew that the tattoo he had riding up his forearm could be a problem when it came to enlistment. In a neo-Nazi underworld obsessed with secrecy, racist tattoos remain one of the clearest indicators of extremism for a recruiter, and in an effort to police the matter, the US military requires recruits to explain any tattoos. "They just told me to write an explanation of each tattoo and I made up some stuff and that was that," he says.

Soon after Fogarty was approved, his ex-girlfriend and mother of his eldest child contacted the military. According to Fogarty, she sent a dossier of pictures to his military command that showed him at white supremacist and neo-Nazi rallies, as well as performing his racist rock with Attack. "They hauled me before some sort of committee, and showed me the pictures. I just denied it." The committee, he says, "knew what I was about, but they let it go because I'm a great soldier".

Fogarty remained in the reserves, until finally, in 2004, he was sent where he had always wanted to go: Iraq. Before he left for the Middle East, he joined the Hammerskin Nation – described by the Anti-Defamation League as the "the most violent and best-organised neo-Nazi skinhead group in the United States".

Fogarty maintains that a good portion of those around him were aware of his neo-Nazism. "They all knew in my unit," he says. "They would always kid around and say, 'Hey, you're that skinhead!'" He was confident enough of his carte blanche from the military that during his break from service in 2004, he flew not to see his family in the US but to Dresden, Germany, to give a concert to 2,500 skinheads, on the army's budget.


The degree of impunity encountered by Fogarty and countless other extremists has caused tensions within the military. The blind eye turned by the recruiters angered many investigators whose integrity was being compromised. Hunter Glass was a paratrooper in the 1980s and became a gang cop in 1999 in Fairville, North Carolina, next to Fort Bragg. "In the 1990s, the military was hard on them, they could pick and choose," he recalls. The change came after 9/11. "The key rule nowadays is ignore it until it becomes a problem," Glass tells me. "We need manpower. So as long as the man isn't acting out, let's blow it off." He recounts one episode in early 2005 when he was requested by military police investigators at Fort Bragg to interview a soldier with blatant skinhead insignia – SS lightning bolts and hammers. Glass worked with the base's military police investigators, who filed a report. "They recommended that he be kicked out," he recalls, "but the commanding officers didn't do anything." He says there was an open culture of impunity. "We're seeing guys with tattoos all the time ... As far as hunting them down, I don't see it. I'm seeing the opposite, where if a white supremacist has committed a crime, the military stance will be, 'He didn't commit a race-related crime.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/aug/31/us-army-racism-iraq-afghanistan

biodunid: Yes o. This is some poor sap paid less than my tax contributions to BRF but who is so overwhelmed by the goodness of the massah that he can't help Uncle Tomming himself all over this thread. Abi no be same US soldiers who leave the army to squat on the streets? That's what he left his fatherland to go and do - gunslinger for a demented and crumbling empire? This is what 30 years of NPN, IBB, Abacha and PDP have turned this nation into - a country whose young people are inordinately proud of lying, fighting, cheating and dying to get into the slave boats. Most have never known a different naija so one can't even get across to them the craziness of the whole situation. Those who do una like this no go die well.

bidemi12: and for every youtube video i will rebutt with my personal experience with our so called black brothers. i could tell you stories that would make your hairs stand up at the base of your neck. but alas security limits me.. .next!!!!

bidemi12: like i said you haven't said anything in furtherance of the debate, save for conjuring wild conjectures.....fabricated facts and wild inuendos in order to get the upper hand. . .the nigerian way. . .anyway. . .next!!!!

bidemi12: Maybe i need to repost my comments again so you can understand "i was part of a 4 man stacked team, breaking down doors. out of the four i was the only black guy. . .next."

bidemi12: you haven't said anything in furtherance of the debate. . .next!!!!

bidemi12: point of correction. all soldiers are dispensable. i was part of a 4 man stacked team, breaking down doors. out of the four i was the only black guy. . .next.

bidemi12: point of correction. all soldiers are dispensable. i was part of a 4 man stacked team, breaking down doors. out of the four i was the only black guy. . .next.

bidemi12: like i said, one needs to step out of small thinking and the nigerian mentality to understand it. My brigade CSM is black. BRIGADE COMMAND SGT MAJOR. You need to understand what the title means to understand the full text. My 1SGT is black. I've seen a case last year where 3 blacks were arrested for killing a white soldier. . .so what's your point?

bidemi12: like i said, one needs to step out of small thinking and the nigerian mentality to understand it. My brigade CSM is black. BRIGADE COMMAND SGT MAJOR. You need to understand what the title means to understand the full text. My 1SGT is black. I've seen a case last year where 3 blacks were arrested for killing a white soldier. . .so what's your point?

Treasure21: NA LIE! If Yoruba language wasn't "Irrelevant" to the Americans, there won't be ppl like Titilayo & Kayode who took their time to learn it. How many oyinbos do you know learn Igbo. So stop hating and spitting venom. Go hug your papa cows.



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klax: You got the point right I know America very well this is where I lived for so many years they would not do anything of such without something to gain in their mind. American Slogan is "THEY DONT INVEST WHERE THEY HAVE NOTHING TO GAIN" after they have created the highest servicemen widows in the world now where else would they go to get more widows, they choosed my own tribe and Hausa out of so many tribes in Nigeria so does that mean we are more orless a waste material or waste human beign or what? Why cant they mention Tiv? Why not Yoruba? Why not Edo, Why not Igala Why Ijaw Are these people not a native speakers as well so why Igbo and Hausa why and why? still my own people are dancing in this foolishness without asking a question please guys wake up this is an insult to Igbo or Hausa if US want kill more people or get more widows they can go Azerbaijan or French speaking whatever good for them. I beg my leave pls this so annoying indeed.

(November 2005) Since virtually the beginning of the all-volunteer U.S. military in 1973, African Americans have enlisted for service in the armed forces at much higher levels than their percentage of the total U.S. population. After reaching a high of 28 percent in 1979, black enlistment levels hovered around 20 percent until 2000.

But the past five years have seen a drop in overall African American enlistment levels that has reduced black participation in the armed forces to percentages not seen since 1973. Black enlistment rates in the Army (see Figure 1) and the Marines have declined precipitously since 2000. These trends may spell trouble for the Army, which has depended on blacks to meet its recruiting goals and reenlistment targets.

COOLDUN: Look at this Zombie, your country and USA which one is most plagued and punished by God and nature? Keep on deceiving yourselves, your government alone is more than all the punishment suffered by the USA since their existence, if it is your tribesmen that was quoted here now, we wouldn’t have our peace to your boastings of being the most educated and dynamic tribe in Africa, it has become a crime and curse to the US people for recruiting solders who volunteered to join their Army, from other two preferred tribes in Nigeria.

This same cursed US now fought with British Army for Nigerian Army to bring back the Biafra country back to Nigeria, which you people hailed and blessed even prayed to God, for their success, today the same God is the one cursing them with Hurricane. God give problems according to our capacities, if 1% of the natural disaster that befell the US happens in Nigeria, honestly your country will be a forgotten in a minute.

If God cursed America with Hurricane, then what will call the recent floods that almost consumed the whole Nigeria? Imagine someone in hell fire mocking someone that is in the Paradise. Anyway it is Nigeria mentality, suffering and smiling. USA, have regretted their involvement in the Nigeria civil war, now they are in their right senses, once beaten twice shy. Don’t mock the USA people with the natural disaster, because your country is in a mess.

carefreewannabe: I understand that they tested black children living in a white society.
did they also have control groups?
would black children growing up in a society that is mainly black react differently?
how would white children react?
just curious.

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Faced With Much Racism from White America and its Media –Including New York Times --

Venus and Serena Williams Can Still Be Victorious.

By ODIMUMBA KWAMDELA (J. Ashton Brathwaite)

Like so many societal ills that are showered with society’s hypocrisy of great change for the better, it can be said of the game of professional tennis also, “The more things change, the more they remain the same.” This is especially so as it pertains to the way white Americans and their media view the “intrusion” into the game by Venus and Serena Williams, two African-Americans, and demonstrating their ability to be dominant. So much resentment to their presence by whites have been shown to beg the question, which in the last few year has been viewed as a problem of greater concern to some white Americans, the possibility of a terrorist attack on some major American cities or that of the Williams sisters returning to the tennis arena and making as strong an impact as they were doing not long ago, or as Serena did recently at the 2007 Australian Open after being away for sometime due to injuries, as is still the case with Venus? And what if their success rate equals that of the past?

It is common knowledge internationally regarding the obsession of white Americans with American athletes coming out on top in all sporting events in which they compete. It is manifested in their endless boisterous ranting of “USA, USA, USA, USA,” and their constant waving of the Stars and Stripes in miniature to giant sizes. Sometimes it seems overdone to the point of being seen more an act of embarrassment than an act of patriotism. But their reaction to Venus and Serena on the way to victory – being victorious – is so conspicuously different. It must be said that their reaction to other African-Americans victorious in other sports such as track and field, basketball, baseball and football does not come so ugly. But it must be said also that African-Americans were once banned from these sports on the mainstream level, and when finally they were grudgingly allowed to, a precious few , one or two at a time, they were racially humiliated in the worst way. The fact that over the years they worked their way up to being the dominant force in these sports obviously means they cannot now be mistreated or wished away. In the game of tennis, however, the idea of it being a white game still strongly persists. Before the Williams sisters only two other African-Americans playing it made their presence felt: Althea Gibson in the 1950s and Arthur Ashe in the 1970s. They were not exactly welcomed, either. Maybe because they did not seem to be as threatening as the Williams sisters. Other African-Americans who entered the arena were not regarded as being able to change the complexion of the game at the top to the point badly denting the idea of this almost-lone game dominated by whites going through a dramatic change racially as did others. Undoubtedly, the Williams Sisters seemed most capable of paving the road to such a transformation.

Admittedly, white Americans tended not to consistently boo the Williams sisters when they were dominating white players from any white nations. Their silence, though, could be likened to that expected in a graveyard at midnight. But their hypocrisy would be shamelessly exposed whenever any white competitor seemed to be getting the upper hand of the Williams sisters, for they would react with great euphoria.

There was a time when Venus and Serena were subjected to frequent bad-mouthing from white competitors who thought it was somehow detrimental to them that both sisters were competing in the same tournaments. If questioned about their comments, they would ease themselves out of the situation and shift the blame to Daddy Williams, who did the unexplainable and coached his two daughters from nothing to success outside of the regular system, on public tennis courts, claiming he was too much of a showoff, too arrogant. Thinking of their trials, is it not a cause to wonder if their often absence from competition might be attributed to this? Not belittling their courage – for Venus especially seems to have a lot of this – but it does take tremendous amounts of courage in the face of constant adversity to hold one’s ground like Muhammad Ali – or the first Black heavyweight champion Jack Johnson many years earlier – elected to do.

It is obviously not a case of a loss of desire among white Americans for the prevailing of American domination but that it would be much more satisfying to them if white competitors would be the ones responsible for bringing about this domination. For it would then make it so much easier to associate with America that responsibility generated by the likes of the Williams Sisters.

Once the proven excellent ability of the Williams sisters made that transformation up from the category of good potential, the white media became a part of this hypocrisy. Articles regularly portrayed them as two Black girls on whom Mother Nature had bestowed extra physical powers to which fragile white girls would inevitably capitulate; they were said to be overly muscular. The same attitudes directed at (Australian) Aborigine tennis player Evonne Goolagong in the 1970s when she dominated any favored white competitor, white spectators and their media not perceiving then, either, of a lowly Aborigine girl with this required ability; hence exhibited their intolerance for such. Goolagon was no more physically imposing than some of her white competitors.

There are those among the competitors of the Williams sisters who are physically bigger. At six feet tall, Venus is not only shorter than some, but also slimmer. American Lindsay Davenport stands two inches over six feet. France’s Mauresma about the same. The same is true of some of the Russian competitors. Sharapova, for instance, is taller than all. Serena is a few inches under six feet. She is a few pounds heavier than some, but to judge her honestly for being overweight or for possessing the very curvaceous and voluptuous body many females wished they possessed, and even more men salivate over, she would be judged by the latter.