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afrodoc2:
Thats the reason why he won’t be fit. His last full match was nearly 3 months ago.

Maguire who has taken just a 1 month break would be sharper earlier on compared to a player who took 3 months off.

Well that shouldn't be a problem, The players that are available should be able to dispatch leeds at home. While Sancho and co are gradually eased in.

afrodoc2:
A player saying he is fit and him being really fit are 2 different things. Rashford should have thought you a lesson.

If we rush him and he gets injured for 4-6 weeks it would be worse. There is a reason why players have 2-3 weeks preseason.

Why will sancho not be fit? Was he injured? Literally played nothing at the Euros

patrickmuf:
This loser keeps going from progressing to developing...When will we ever be ready? Oga you have no excuse abeg!

Man United is a dead club, just dont kill yourself. Ole is not ready to win anythin, know this and know peace. Watchout by the end of the season it will be another disappointment

afrodoc2:
Giving Sancho extra time off when he played next to nothing at the Euros is ridiculous, especially when the club knew Rashford was going to be out and Martial was likely to be unfit after his long layoff.

Then the Varane situation is another comedy series on its own. How long does it take to sign a contract?

They found a way to bungle a beautiful situation.

Lol. When i told someone that man united is on a downward spiral he said it is defeatist. The unprofessionalism and unseriousness in the club is terrible. Man United as a club is just interested in being in business and not winning anything

I am not bothered about lukaku,he is a basic player

patrickmuf:
That's on the coach who keeps playing him...

Another point to note is that Henderson might crumble when tasked to do the job on a consistent basis, the pressure here is massive...

Anyway, let's see how the new season pans out...

How do you know Henderson will crumble when you have not tried him. He didnt crumble in Sheffield United, Ooooh this is Man United!!! My brother nothing is so special about Man United. Valencia came from Wigan and benched Nani that has been in the team, Chicharito came from Chivas and benched Berbatov. If you sabi you sabi

TheLequte:
Then why did you quote me as if I was the one drumming his support?

DDG that played a hand in us not qualifying for Europe about 4 years ago wirh that howler against Chelsea. Is it that one I was supporting?


Not everyone shouts their opinions and repeats it incessantly like Nani007 on this app. It doesn’t mean they don’t have that opinion.

I wasnt pointing accusing finger on you while qouting you. I dont even mark names even. The issues with the clubs is making excuses upon excuses

handelex:
Man united is not on any downward spiral, how will someone even be saying that

Season never even start and some of us are back to square one again lol

I’ll rather be an optimist than be a pessimist and be proven right.

Nuff already said about Ole, he himself knows what’s at stake.

GGMU

In 2017 man united qualified for UCL won league cup and Europa league.
2018 2nd with 81 points FA cup final, R-16 UCL
2019 an outlier due to change of manager.
2020 3rd no trophies , Europa league semis
2021 2nd no trophies group stage exit.

This in my books is downward spiral

patrickmuf:
Ship De Gea out to where?

If it was so easy to cancel contracts or ship players who are on high wages out, Barcelona would have retained the services of Messi. Who will buy Umtiti, Pjanic, Lenglet, Coutinho, Sergi Roberto and others? Which club will accept to pay those wages?

It's not just to say De Gea should be shipped out, without factoring the aforementioned factors...

My issue is not about shipping him out, yes the mistake has been made by renewing hus criminal contract. But must you play him? And he continue costing the team. For eg It was DDG that denied Man United UCL 2 years ago, costing the team the FA cup and Europa league last year.

handelex:
You should quit this your defeatist attitude, na Chelsea play match na we dey whine for here.

E be things.

Here they come. Call it whatever you like, but my call for also rans to be changed precedes whatever Chelsea did

afrodoc2:
Your recollection is wrong. There were several people here who were of the same opinion as you. The receipts are there. It was at least evenly split if not more against DDG.

And this is not me being reactionary. There is nothing that DDG did in that Europa final that shocked me. Actually I am yet to watch the shootout because I was a 100% sure that with DDG in goal we stood very little chance.

Doc i am aware that before you make important conclusions you make considerations carefully, so on your own you haven't backed DDG on any occasions, even though i haven't NOTICED any strong dissatisfaction. But your evenly splitting of a thing on DDG i doubt or may be their voice were more vociferous.
It was clear to the unbaised that DDGs position needed serious review, but whenever one mentions it it is followed by echoes of voices reminding us of how he saved us for "free" even though his salary is extortionate.

See the fundamental problem with Man Utd is that glazers have succeeded in reducing the fans and every one in the club to accepting gross mediocrity, examplified by continuous indulgence of a mediocre like Ole, what is the result? Hero worshipping unproven players that lacks professionalism or hyping bang average and inconsistent players on the back of 1 or 2 decent performance, or in the case of DDG reminiscing on past glories. Look at what serious clubs did to Aguero, scheweisteiger, Cech, Casillas etc. You have played, performed wonders, earned your millions, legend, you are no longer good, by all means go. SIMPLE!.
The glazers have gotten their man, tapped-in the 1999 winner, a hero, fans will be emotional so keep the target as low as it gets.
Doc you were here when someonw was reminding us of how Vidic and Evra struggled initially as an excuse for Lindelof's Sissines, what is the result utd had to buy varane after 4 years of costing the team points, forgetting that Evra and Vidic hit the ground running on world class capacity just after 6 months of signing. DdG was costing the team 10s of points on season bases, Pogba was harrasing everyone with his agent, the manager making season defining errors whenever a result is needed, yet the fans keep making excuses, while other clubs even Leicester and Arsenal keep hovering trophies. I go online and see fans celebrating the signing of Varane and Sancho as if its a trophy even when they have not kicked a ball. Very pathetic.

At this rate Man United is teetering towards Arsenal in the midtable and the goals will being lowered.

TheLequte:
I don’t get you. Did I advocate for him during his decline? Did you see me drum support for him?

Take your time o. Blood dey hot

I did not take note of who advocated or not. All I know is that it was crystal clear that DDG is done, even in spain he was benched by Kepa long before Unai simon. But everyone except Expert17 as i could remember was just reminiscing on his few good season as saving us.
Man United as I see it now is on a downward spiral, check the coaching crew, check the board members all sentimental vibes no merit. Fans praising useless players and manager and expecting result. Lol your body never de hot yet, wait till end of season you guys dont know what is coming.

Lol All oversabi Man U fans don run comot. Una mate the celebrate trophy. Una de celebrate signings. Players wey nobody know will suceed or not especially with the useless manager.
Man United will soon join Arsenal as the premium laffing stock of the lot.
The club na just vibes from players, take training pics, do shakara upandan fail woefully come to twitter and Instagram and apologise.
For the fans, na to shamelessly make mouth upandan, praise useless players make excuses for them, remember history and keep making excuses for the most clueless manager by a mile. They will soon crawl out to continue the usual vibes and nothing to show. History FC.

DeadPresidents:
Ole is devoid of both spinals and star dust.

Immediately i saw him stick with De Gea, I calmly switched off the broadcast and headed off to sleep.

Would rather be up early the next day than miss a minute of my precious nightly over the Noggies misdemeanors.

I dont like Ole, but many united fans were calling for his head when he finally had the balls to bench DDG.

TheLequte:
Babanla fool. At least if you can’t save one, you’ll score when it’s your turn shei? And he earns the most at the club. Useless people.

DDG is now a fool abi. Lol. He is no longer the guy that must be played no matter what for what he has done for us

Lol. Am I say again where are those people that were on my neck when i was calling for DDG to be offloaded since 3 years ago? They said I have an agenda. Now you all are blaming the club and Ole, lets stop this bloody over righteousness only me and Expert17 saw the obvious DDG decline and had the balls to point it out.
DDG is on 375k/week who the hell gives such contract to a past it 3rd choice spainish NT goalie? Unai Simon an Olympic U-23 player is firmly benching him, yet whenever the obvious is mentioned every body run away or begin to remind us few seasons where he 'saved' us. Rubbish.

Oasis007:
Manchester United believe they are assembling a talented pool of young coaches, with Kieran McKenna, Eric Ramsay and Justin Cochrane.

- James Ducker

All these are amateur coaches with no top level IQ.

patrickmuf:
Lol if they knew wouldn't they have made plans for the eventualities? I don't want to hear any excuse like the new players didn't partiin our preseason routine hence Ole needs more time...

Or so so so player fail because he did not have pre season

afrodoc2:
I can only imagine how many Barca fans were shouting "is it your money" when Bartomeu was busy mortgaging the club's future.

The Dembele/Griezmann/Coutinho "trifecta" alone is enough to get Bartomeu exiled from Catalonia for life.

Even De jong. Why pay him 400k/week. As good as he might be

afrodoc2:
He didn't play badly today in my opinion. He kept the ball well and moved the ball quickly. Our play was more fluid with Matic and him compared to when Pogba and Fred came on.

Matic though is still the only no 6 we have at the club. We need a CDM badly. Pogba, VDB, Fred, McTom are all no 8s and Garner is not ready.

He did play badly today. But he is too basic, a top club should not depend on basic simple pass CMs. Not adventurous for me. Even Matic in DM was finding passes and holes more than him.

handelex:
James has surprisingly been lively so far down that left..

James has always been lively since he came, but not effective

Softwareguy21:
oga everything no be criticism. Vdb did ok everything no be cross field pass. Vdb positional awareness is superb and that's his strength. Dont expect him to play long pass. He's more of short and quick pass. Even martial is not static as usual. Always see the positive side.

what criticism did you see here? I said i am not impressed, and thats my opinion. He delivers short injury passes, slow down the pace of the game, no incisive pass, and he is static. And he is supposed to be a CM. For a team like united, thats not good enough

handelex:
I no see wetin Ice cold play this first half oo

Move him to the left. James is useless there.

I am not impressed with VDB. He is not just good enough, no wonder Ole is reluctant to let Pogba go. We cant go into the season without Pogba or a new signing.

Ole should be playing Matic once in 2 weeks to keep him fit, a fully fit Matic is very good. But will Ole have that kind of sense?

Martial is not a CF, move him to RWF. I will start with Sancho, Martial Cavani for the season.

Illimitable:
He was played all over the pitch because he’s mediocre at everything. Rooney is a Jack of all trades. While his versatility is an admirable quality, he’s not a master at any of the thing he does.

Rooney isn’t in the list of top 5 strikers in the history of the PL, Rooney isn’t in the list of top 5 number 10s in the history of the PL. Rooney isn’t in the top 5 of any football position in the history of the PL.

That’s exactly my point!



If he was a provider for all these strikers, why does he have a horrendous assist stat? Who was he assisting while playing behind top strikers? We know Fabregas, Giggs, De Bruyne, Bergkamp, Lampard and even the late comer(Bruno) and their craft, how come Rooney isn’t in this conversation in the history of the PL.



What was his goal tally in 2009/10 & 11/12?
Do you know how many goals Salah scored from the flank on his debut season? You people just like to gas mediocrity.

There is always an excuse for Rooney? Challenge his numbers as a striker and everyone quickly reminds you he’s not a pure forward. Challenge his numbers as a #10, and they tell you he’s a striker or a deep-lying playmaker stationed beside Carrick.



There’s a reason Aguero is heading to Barcelona at age 34 while Rooney wasn’t even considered good enough at Everton when he was 32. He had to run to MLS & now he’s retired while Ronaldo is still winning golden boot in Serie A.



De Lima won Ballon d’Or at age 20 and he repeated the feat at 21. De Lima scored 47 goals for Barcelona at the tender age of 20 - these are numbers Rooney cannot even dream of.

If Rooney was an Argentine, he would be playing Rugby for the national team. Rooney is a master at nothing and I reiterate the only reason he got moved around a lot was because he wasn’t particularly excellent at anything.

Rooney(the provider) never topped Assist chart in over 16 seasons in England. I ask - what was he providing? Was he providing passes that led to goals or expletives to the match officials.

You can put a poll up anywhere in the world, Aguero would be chosen before Rooney.

It is now clear that your are out of your depth.
He is jack of all trade master of none? But he is the hishest goal scorer for both club and country.
He is not among the top 5 scorers in EPL? Yet he is only behind Alan Shearer in all time EPL top scorer. For the playmakers stats see Zidane and Iniesta.


In those seasons Rooney scored 34 goals apeice thats an excellent return for a top striker even though he didnt play there through out the campaign. Interestingly your Aguero never scored up to that tally in his entire career, infact for his 10 years at city he only scored over 30 goals just twice. Ronaldo de lima did 47 once and never repeated it, infact apart from that he never scored more than 34 goals in a season his entire career. Apart from his final season at Arsenal RVP never scored more than 30 goals in his entire career. It is funny how your jack of all trade and master of none could amass such a high number in the only season he was tasked to lead the attack.

Your other points are useless that deserve no response

Mrcapability7:
Even as a striker rooney is more precision and deadly than aguero. Rooney can scored from anywhere in any situation even free kicks and heading.

Had sir Alex Ferguson used rooney as main striker as he did in 2009/2020 season when tevez and Ronaldo left rooney would have scored goals than aguero will ever dream of and it was only best goal scoring season he had in united shirt

When rooney was 17 years he was playing like current harry kane. 17 years old boy.

Even Guardiola will pick rooney as a striker over aguero

Put respect on wazza name. The best talent from England after Bobby Charlton

Aguero that Huguain shut out of Argentina even in his prime.

izzou:
[color=royalblue] Aguero is a striker, and that's what he rooted his argument on.

As a striker, Aguero is better than Rooney. Which one is "footballer" again?

Give Aguero the ball and he would score. That's his duty, and not to defend, create chances, and all that stuff you typed there.

The guy's point was clear. Na you just dey dance around [/color]

He said Aguero is better than Rooney in everything. For example Lukaku scored more goals in ratio than Drogba, is he better than Drogba?

Mrcapability7:
This really confirm your knowledge about football is limited bro you don't watch football bro. All you do write english m not so sure you can even speak with useless sta and insulting everyone who tried to engage you in discourse. Watch live match

Aguero isn't Rooney mate as long as football is concerned. Rooney is 200 times high and shoulder above aguero as football is concern.

As striker you might say aguero is better with goal ratio but as footballer ROONEY 100 times player aguero was/us

This is useless comparison.

Rooney is overall footballer, he attacked, he defend, orchestrated attack, create chances. While aguero spend his time in 18 box waiting to be feed.


Rooney started as a striker but he spent his entire career been played out of position by Manchester United and England.

You wanna bring sta to argue your point ? Ok bring aguero assists compared to Rooney

Learn how to watch live football stop this stat of thing it is valid to judge players career achievement but it is irrelevant when it comes to player abilities bro.


If it is by sta players like Ronaldinho, zidane, iniesta and paul Scholes etc got nothing on other footballers

I never saw this before i responded to him, if not i wouldn't have bothered. That guy is talking absolute bollocks. How can a single person talk so much nonsense in few sentences.

Illimitable:
You have no common sense.

No one ever asked Lewandowski, Aguero, Ronaldo De Lima and other great strikers to play out of position. You know why? Because they are bloody good at one thing - goal scoring.

Rooney was asked to play everywhere because his managers knew there was always one player in his team better at goal scoring than he does. I am not your biased goat who would put everything Man Utd over other teams because of club rivalry.

Aguero is heads and shoulders above Rooney - in everything. It’s not even close. Aguero scored more goals for City in 10 years than Rooney did at United in 13 years.

You are talking absolute nonsense, I mean absolute nonsense. The reason Rooney was played all over the pitch was because of his versatility, his movement of the ball and his excellent ability to find team mates with passes as well as his chance creation.
Rooney scores, create chances, passes, marks, orchestrate play and sometimes control games, he is a one of a kind. He is never a top striker, he was always the second striker behind a more traditional 18-yard box finisher in a 4-4-2 formation. Heskey, Owen and lately Kane for England. Van Nistelrooy, Berbetov, Chicharito, Welbeck and Van persie for United.
4-4-2 formations previously adopted by managers makes the 2 strikers basically share scoring responsibilities with the most advanced finisher ussually getting the most, Aguero in the city lineup or Lewandowski are always advanced strikers due to the sytle of play of the team. Rooney was playing in a position akin to Bruno Fernandes in recent times, or even Rivaldo or Lampard(in chelsea) before. The seasons Rooney was asked to lead the attack in 2021/12 and 2009/2010 season, go and check his goal tally. In terms of ability on the ball Aguero is no where near Rooney. Aguero will never in his life attempt the searching long pass Rooney delivered to Van Persie in 2013 to clinch the title against Aston Villa, and that has always been Rooney's landmark. Ronaldo de lima who you hail, go and check his goal tally even in his most prolific season. Please stop making emphatic conclusions on things you have not well researched. For you to say Aguero is better than Rooney in Everything is an absolutely nonsense statement. If Rooney was an Argentine, Higuain will never have benched him in the national team.

Android17:
You get promoted when your name is drafted to the FA as one of the members of the first team.

Key word "TO".

For example : Afrodoc to marry Rihanna. That doesnt mean he married her already. Do you get?

Illimitable:
How do you get promoted without kicking a ball for the senior team?

Are you a möron?

Lol. Which means Ole can go and promote Rooney 11 yr old son.and not play him. Tomorrow ole will claim to promote him.

Illimitable:
Billionaire CapitalCe.

I hail o!!!!

Not so. I am actually in short of money. I just gave the little i have.