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Expert17:
Just wait until he wins World Cup next year.

They go change mouth again................"The final was played on Tuesday" "The standard of World cup dropped since 2010" " Messi won it at 35"

Or he dint score against big teams

Expert17:


Look at Neymar crying after missing out on Mickey Mouse trophy

Real Mickey mouse cup.

Jodera:
Lol... I swear..

Or as expert said "world cup is no longer the world cup of before"

Lol. When you hate a player like messi, you will always say laughable things

Jodera:
Exactly oo...
Win anything with Argentina don turn win world cup with Argentina

When he wins World Cup next year now, it will turn to win it back to back

Expert17:
The same guys that asked him to win anything with Argentina

God pass man last last

Teams Messi Played to win Copa America. Plus highest goals and assist.

Uruguay.
Paraguay.
Chile.
Bolivia.
Ecuador
Colombia and
Brazil.

Teams Ronaldo played to win Euros. With zero personal accolades

Iceland
Hungary
Austria
Croatia
Poland
Wales.
France (he ran away in the the first 20 minutes)

So which of these line up of teams is more formidable.?

Ronaldo fan boys have no argument

GloryIsaac:
Penalties wey dey hard players to score, Ronaldo has made it look like nothing

No be penalty Messi miss for 2016?

This proves the initial point. E for rubbish Copa America the way he has rubbished penalties

Copa America dont have Plumbers from mighty Luxembourg, kosova, Faroe Island, Moldova, Mecedonia, Montenegro, San Marino, Lithuania, Albania, Latvia, Gilberater, Armenia, Liechtenstein, Malta, Georgia, Estonia, Azerberjan, Belarus and Cyprus.

If Messi plays these countries he will have 400 international goals

Expert17:
Lols.

You don come out as CR7 fans...........nice one

some guys still claiming Maradona and Pele fans

Messi won U-20 World Cup as best player.
Messi won Olympic Gold medal as the best player.
Messi Won Copa America as the best player, Top scorer and top assist.
Messi dragged Argentina to world cup final as the best player.

Ronaldo's only lucky Euro win he finished 3rd in group stage consisting of Hungary, Austria and Iceland. He was carried by Eder and Renato. Scored only against farmers like Hungary and Wales.

Since Figo, Rui costa, Maniche, Deco, Cavahlo and Pauleta retired Ronaldo cannnot lead Portugal pass R-16.

Ronaldo played in 2004 Olympics and crashed out in group stage.

Ronaldo Fan boy are saying Copa America is nothing but Ronaldo won Euros by finishing 3rd in Group stage, playing "Superpowers" like iceland, Hungary, Austria, Croatia, Poland and Wales. The only decent team Portugal played which is France, he ran away in the first half for Eder to give him the Cup.

Since the last 3/4 years Ronaldo only score tap ins and penalties agaisnt European superpowers like San Marino, Kosovo, Moldova, Faroe Island, Lithuania, Macedonia, Luxembourg, Iceland and co.

GloryIsaac:
Ronaldo scored against every team in the Euro 2020 ‘Group of Death’

Baba finished with 5 goals in the “group of death” and won Golden Boot

Mtcheew Copa what?

3 penalties and 2 tap ins. Thats all he does for the past 4 years now

TheLequte:
This has nothing to do with the discussion I’ve been having wirh Patrick and Joe but it’s actually funny that Messi’s team usually go up in the first leg of a UCL knockout tie and then crumble in the return leg.

With CR7, his team usually goes 2 or 3 goals down in the first leg and he scores an hattrick in the return leg to take them through. Wakanda player is that??!!

How many times have Ronaldo's team gone 3 goals down and he returned to score hatrick? Even the 2 goals down how many times?

UncleHaba22:
Una go choke


Check how many times Ronaldo av met south American country with the results

And show us here let me see
I want to check something


The pics below dey pain some pipo dieeeee

Ronaldo Fan boys are in Pain. During the last world cup Uruguay a country from Useless SouthAmerica kicked them out of the World Cup.

melodyogonna:
Lmao omo, no be the competition he play in he go win? Na international trophy, every other matter is secondary.

You de mind them? They want Messi to win Euros or AFcon

patrickmuf:
When Messi was asked to first win an international competition before he could lay claim to the title of G.O.A.T., what international competition was being referred to? The only ones he can participate in away from the World cup is the Copa which for some weird reason is now trash...The others are of the junior category which he played and won (U-20 and Olympics)...

Since you are saying Brazil doesn't give a damn about the Copa, can we then start rating the Olympics because prior to when Neymar led them to their first and only Olympic title, they have always assembled their best available team for the Olympics...

Even in Nigeria, the mention of Atlanta 96 comes with some form of nostalgic feeling...

I am certain if Portugal wins the Olympics with Ronaldo starring, we won't hear the last of it for days running to weeks and months...

You guys have time to argue with Ronaldo fan boys. Someone said that Copa America is rubbish. A competition that has Chile, Colombia, Uruguay, Argentina, Brazil, Mexico and Paraguay. SMH.

Jodera:
Currently, I'll prefer saka to win fifa world best over balon dor cos FIFA world best will always stand the test of time... Balon dor won't.

All that's just needed is 3-4yrs from now and they'll be distinct difference between FIFA award and balon dor award clearly.

When such comes, everybody will recognise who won FIFA award in 2021 and not who won balon dor. Just like same way Ronaldinho won balon dor in 2006 but everybody knows about canavaro who won the FIFA world best award

Cannavaro won both Ballon dor and Fifa World Footballer of the year award in 2006. The only year Ronaldinho won it was in 2005.

TrebleChamp:
That Alabi is even in doubt of this fact is surprising. A good example was when CR7 won the Balon d'or at United, it was seen as a normal achievement cos other United players had won it in the past. As soon as he was named Fifa World Player of the Year, the celebration started and he became the first and only Player to Win it in the EPL. Fifa best player and Balon d'or was merged awhile back, but the merger was discontinued soon after. Fifa World Player of the Year over Balon d'or anytime, anywhere....

Alabi no sabi anything na today you know?

Popular Cop Abba Kyari who with his team have been on the trails of Unknown gunmen in Southeast is also present at Obi Cubana's mum burial in Oba Anambra state.

raumdeuter:
Maybe Etoos son was not good enough to represent Spain. You think if Kante Pogba Zidane were representing Guinea Algeria and Congo anyone would be mentioning them?

Remember George Weah your first example of patriotism? and current president of Liberia, I will think this icon of patriotism son will be playing for Liberia, yet he is representing the USA.

Do you think any of the Ayews is talented enough to make the French team?. Was Mejbri talented enough to have broken into a top team in Europe?

Haaland was born in UK and according to wiki was taken to Norway at age 3. I am sure Haaland cannot remember anything about growng up before age 3 in England, All his memories are from Norway and the country he feels very Norwegian just like Osaze born in Uzbekistan but by age 2, he was moved back to Naija so most of his growing up was in Nigeria

So imagine for Naija dressing room boys begin blow Yoruba Igbo Hausa and pidgin and you want Saka to be blowing cockney accent there? How will he even connect with the fans

Samuel Etoos son and Mejbri are still very young, they only made their choices early not becuase they are not good enough. At what age did Trippier made his England debut? Abedi's children might not be superstars now but it was their parents who insisted they represent Ghana, they started from junior age grade when it was not even clear how their careers will pan out. You can't predict how Etoos son career will be likewise Mejbri, so for them making thier choices early rather then based on neccesity is clear patriotism.

How will Zidane and co not be mentioned? Wasnt Etoo, Drogba and Sallah mentioned despite representing lower contries? George weah did not represent France before he won Ballon dor. Stars can emerge anywhere. Dwight Yorke came from Trinidad and Tobago yet he had an excellent career and was recognised.

raumdeuter:
The only reason CHO and Zaha went back to Africa was because they didnt stand a chance with their European country. If they had been given a chance earlier, they would never consider it. That is the same way some of those guys use our head in Africa

When its time for world cup, Joel Matip and Kevin prince Boateng knowing they wont make German team quickly adopted their African country they didnt know about, After world cup and its time for AFCON qualifiers to Burundi, Malawi etc they quickly announced their international retirements.

I will rather respect those Saka Tammy etc that were honest and stayed with their country of birth than one coming here to use the head of Africans thereby one guy who suffered qualifiers riguors will get dropped for new guy wey just discover his heritage

Na so Efan Ekoku, Mike Emenalo dem take chance Nduka Ugbade for US 94 squad. Ugbade who would have been the first Nigerian to play for every level of FIFA tournament U17 captain, U21, U23 and senior team lost his place to guys who only remembered us when we qualified for world cup

You made a very good points, but i didnt say Saka should sit his Ass in England while others qualify for world cup only to come and play. The qualifiers are now people like him can make themselves available like Iwobi and Victor Moses did.

raumdeuter:
I disagree.

These Naija boys were probably born in the UK, they probably have never lived in Nigeria beyond the random 2weeks to 2months holidays every 5yrs(if that much), They probably cannot speak any Nigerian local dialect fluently. So what makes it home for them vs
A country they went to daycare, went to primary to secondary, played academy football, have friends, and everything. Basically, they become who they are today because of the investment UK made into their lives

It's understandable for someone like you to choose Nigeria because you have connections to Nigeria but your son who was born and bred abroad will pick Nigeria a country his own father left in his youth?

So by the same token, you will be expecting Rio Ferdinand to play for StLucia, Sancho, and Rashford to play for Jamaica or some Caribbean country?

Rio and Sancho's ancestors might have moved to UK long time ago, so must have been diluted. I heard Saka's father was born in Nigeria. Like i said i will persuade my soon to play for Nigeria. I will teach him my local Dialect and engrain him into our culture.

Samuel Etoo came to Spain as a 16 year old, his son was born and bread in spain. He son is representing cameroon. Why didn't his son chose spain.

Abedi Pele gave birth to all his sons in France. All of them are playing for Ghana, theirs was never out of neccesity they bled Ghana.

Wasnt Halaand born in the UK? Why is he not plYing for England?
Our star boy Mejbri was clearly born and bred in Europe he chose Tunisia immediately before his career even started.

It all depends on the orientation by the parents and the mentality.

GloryIsaac:
No one is talking down on Nigeria, the results are there to see.

God-willing, Nigeria does well next year in the World Cup, it can set a precedence for the nation.

But if it remains the usual R16 knockout, cycle continues.

Enlighten me the last time Mexico, Chile and Paraguay made it past the R-16 in the world cup

handelex:
CHO knew the chances of him making it with the senior team is slim and time dey go. Didn't he fly the England colors across the youth level? Why didn't he choose to represent Ghana then

Yet he went to his Country of origin nevertheless.

GloryIsaac:
The players mentioned are all African-born, and spent considerable time in their native nations before moving. 16+.

South Americans have strong teams capable of contending on the international stage, so it makes sense to represent them. Same can’t be said for African teams.

If Nigeria becomes a force to contend with on the international stage, the World Cup, then same can happen.

Yeah Paraguay, Chile, Colombia, Mexico and Ecuador usually go far in World cups. Which of these countries have performed considerably better than Nigeria, Ghana and Senegal in world cup recently. What are theeir chances of winning it

GloryIsaac:
In most cases, those who choose to play for their motherland do so for these reasons;

1. Not good enough for their adopted team.
2. Good enough but tough competition in adopted team. Means might not get a lot of international caps.

These reasons are at the root of it, the ‘patriotism’ talk is just a deflection.

If a player is assured of his place in the national team of his adopted country, and they have a better chance of going far in the tournament, he will represent them.

Also put into consideration that these adopted countries were the ones who groomed the player. Most start at U13s or U16s I believe.

Ofcourse, there are exceptions to this, but they are rare.

P.S. Falcao would have had to compete with Fernando Torres and David Villa for a starting berth with Spain. Doubt the success rate if he tried in 2007.

Its not always true bro, there are many folks who decided for to trace their origin despite that.

KingTom:
Messi sef turn down spain to play for Argentina so I hear

Imagine. England beg Giggs tire he no gree. Spain needed Kanoute he decline and played for Mali.

benji93:
Playing for the national team doesn't secure anybody anyway. Na CLub dem really dey get their money from.

But they are making as if playing for England is a life ticket to Eldorado

handelex:
These guys you mentioned are home grown niggas now, you sef reason am.... Saka don even visit naija before?

You dont need to visit naija before identifying with your people. CHO has gone back to Ghana despite been born in UK

handelex:
If naija really dey as you're portraying and making it to be, you for no leave her shores in search of a better life

We are talking about representing your country in a sports event not looking for better life. Maybe Drogba was playing for ASEC Mimosas of Cotedevoire, when he was playing for his country. Cavani that plays for Man United, didnt he represent Uruguay in the last Copa America?
Why didnt Dwight Yorke switch to England instead of Trinidad and Tobago, when he was a superster at Man United?

benji93:
As one other person suggested, If those folks can do it, why not ours. Please don't come with the it's just not worth it argument. You must think some of these South American countries don't have their national team problems. Most of them still go home regardless. You are making millions for crying out loud. It would be nice if some of us in the diaspora do something tangible to help and not just rant on social media, as most do. Most importantly encourage your kids. Instil patriotism(with some those care ) in them. For a significant number of diasporans, na village people dey live for Nigeria. In the abroad after living for a few years the spirit of condescension descends on them. The thing dey pain and vex me at the same time.



Disclaimer: I am not saying it's a wrong decision. For me it's neither right nor wrong. I am not putting money in their pockets.

Leave them na. Go to Peru, Colombia, Ecuador, Venezuela, Paraguay, Uruguay and Chile etc and see how those countries are even Mexico. They have more national deffieciencies than us yet they still go back home and whenever they are representing their country they exude patriotism. If George Weah with all his Ballon dor should chose Liberia thats into war with very despicable leaders then why not these Nigerians abroadians? Etoo, Drogba, Okocha and Kanu are african legends and are recognised as such. So why didnt these people chose foreign countries so they can be secured.
Like i mentioned Gascoigne declared bankruptcy, maybe his playing for England made him eternally rich

elrony:
Lol omo if the option to not return here surfaces, I'm in. Nigeria don taya me biko

"Home is where the heart is", no be so them talk am?

All these abroad people sef

So chukwueze and Osihmen dem wey come back during holiday to come play street football with area guys nko? Guy dont despise your roots no matter what, thatsy humble advise for you

elrony:
Maybe AFCON of old, no be this one wey be like assembly of low budget criminals

Better to play in the Euros than AFCON bro

And the grand stage analogy is right, England has a higher chance to win the world cup than Nigeria.

How is Euros better than AFCON? How? Nawao. Una sef

patrickmuf:
Na why I surprise when he talk about grand stage...

The Euros is grand stage but AFCON isn't...Saka stands a better chance of winning with Nigeria than those overrated players...

Gbam. Euros is to England what Afcon is to Nigeria, just like Copa America is to Argentina or Uruguay. Asian championships is to Korea. No one is more prestigious depending on where your heritage is

patrickmuf:
No place like home...Even if I leave, I'll still come back home after the hustle...

Me too, i will soon relacote to Naija permanently aftwr some years. Home is sweet

handelex:
This table you're shaking you sef dey on top oo

Please enlighten me