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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 8:30pm On Dec 03, 2020
KingAlabi:
Ok

Next !!!!
This doesn't still address anything. May be u should go and look for that Krasnador coach in your image and make him man united coach. Topping the UEL still doesn't make them good team
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 8:26pm On Dec 03, 2020
Lana1:
Nice logic.
So any manager who does ok in a smaller team will do better with a bigger team? Why then did Moyes, at the time he was sacked, finish 2 places and 20 points behind Everton with the then epl defending champions?

If they bring the Wilder in now, you'll be one of the first to lead WilderOut protests when Martial continues missing open net.
I didn’t say bring Wilder. Wilder is unsuitable for Man United. My point is there is mo evidence that Ole is better than him. Ole relagated Cardiff from EPL and was about sending them to league 1 before being sacked. Even in the small club, Ole was a dudd. Which elite club has ole proven himself before given the United job to be fumbling
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 8:23pm On Dec 03, 2020
TrebleChamp:
Hope you know that you are a wicked person.... grin
Just Imagine!!! Just because he won league with one team in Norway, he is now fit to manage Man United. The kind of leagues that one team wins league this season, top clubs will raid their players and next season they are relagated or get promoted this season win league next season due to lucky influx of exciting young stars from the academy
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 6:16pm On Dec 03, 2020
KingAlabi:
Those people you mention how good were they? undecided
How good was Ben Davies of Spurs?
How good was Ramsey?
How good was Bale?
How good was Joe Ledley
How good was Ashley Williams
How good was Joe Allen?

You must be jocking.
Currently Giggs is using Neco Williams, Levvit, Ampadu, Norrington of Luton town etc to beast qualifiers and Nation league B. Give Ole this welsh team they are getting relegated to league D to complete with San Marino, Gibraltar and Kosovo
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 6:11pm On Dec 03, 2020
KingAlabi:
Verdict passed

WilderIN grin

Ole also helped molde to win the league for the first time in their history

How you keep omitting that is a surprise to me.


By the way

Moyes says hi @bolded
Molde is a useless club in a pub sunday league level. Ndubuisi Egbo won Albanian league with Tirana, why not bring him to manage Man city or Liverpool? Marcelo Bielsa, Benitez and Nuno espirito are some of the top class managers to coach in Championship. Why dont those managers go to Norway to coach.

Very soon you will tell us to go bring Khadiri Ikhana since he won league with Enyimba and won Champions league for them fir the first time in their history.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 5:18pm On Dec 03, 2020
KingAlabi:
Pick the one team from this screenshot that Wales have WON, that is greater than them.

Hint ; you can use FIFA ranking

Expo: Wales reach the semi finals, in euro 2016 all under a certain Coleman


So tell me again how small is Wales ?
You can compare the 2016 team to this one.

That one has Joe Allen, Ramsey and Ledley in midfield all starters in EPL, infact the first 2 in a top 4 side. Their is Ben Davies and Ashley williams Swansea captain all in the peak of their times, their was also peak Bale and Starting Hennesey. Sam Vokes of Burnley was only a substitute then.

Now look at the current team. They are washed up players and bunches of championship and league 1 players
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 5:10pm On Dec 03, 2020
KingAlabi:
Well as they said agenda most agend.

And according to you Chris Wilder is better than ole and we should replace ole with Chris Wilder. cheesy
There is absolutely no evidence to show that Ole is better than Chris Wilder. Wilder helped promoted Sheffield and kept them for another season in the league. Ole relagated a similar team and was about sending them to league 1 before Cardiff cut him lose. Give Wilder this United team, he will do better than Ole. Did you see the kind of players in Sheffied?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 3:56pm On Dec 03, 2020
raumdeuter:
Why are you not blaming Bruno and Cavani who also missed chances abi na only Martial miss?
Bruno and Cavani are serious players they have bailed the team in several occasions, one or two blips is acceptable, I watch bayern games and see Lewandowski miss sitters, last week I also saw Halaand miss a contender for the miss of the century. The difference between those players and martial is that they put in good shifts and are very serious, same with Bruno and cavani. Players miss chances, its on the manager to read the dynamics and move on, make changes and continue digging in. But for Ole and his fan boys, one à player miss a chance, they are Ok, they already have an excuse for a loss.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 3:51pm On Dec 03, 2020
raumdeuter:
Fred was already close to getting sent off 2 times in the first half. The head butt, the stamp on Paredes which Paredes got the yellow.

ANy coach will remove a player who has been lucky to remain on the field twice,
Man Utd vs Spurs after Martials red and Lamela got a yellow, the first sub Mourinho made was toremove Lamela, not because he wasnt playing well but because he was a yellow card risk

Yesterday Verrati and Lamela got yellow cards early and both were excused out of the game not because they werent playing well
No mind Ole fan boys. Man United has sunk into the deepest pit that an absolutely limited manager like Ole will be gambling with games, and all we see is players fault, players will always make mistakes they are not robots, its the function of the coach to manage the dynamics of the game.

Ole remains one of the worst managers in the league, his appointment is a disaster. I like him as a player, but in my mind and the mind of most sensible united fans, he has ruined his reputation as a player by being selfish refusing to resign knowing he is out of his depth becuase of few millions he will receive, Ole just doesnt love the club.

He will always assure you that rubbish players are in his plans rather than saying the facts and shaming the money grabbing and inept glazers, he will again show clear incompetence in managing and motivating his team, he knew he is not taking the team anywhere, instead of resigning he stuck there killing the team the more.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 3:41pm On Dec 03, 2020
odizeey:
So Greenwood is mediocrity?

cheesy I knew this day will come.

Now they are already roasting Telles.

Being a united player is a very difficult task.
For KingAlabi every player is rubbish except the manager.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 3:35pm On Dec 03, 2020
patrickmuf:
Baba you be strong Ole fan, own up to it...If Ole wants to learn at the job, Manchester United is not the place for him...
Lol something i jave have said since. He experiments all the time, because he knows our big players will dig him out of trouble when he is about to be sacked.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 10:32am On Dec 03, 2020
I wonder if anybody is still questioning Deschamp for Benching Martial with Giroud
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 9:45am On Dec 03, 2020
odizeey:
This man does not know how to use players. Everyone is supposed to know that. He should be United's PR person. Not coach.
Simple that's what they failed to understand
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 9:43am On Dec 03, 2020
KingAlabi:
I don't doubt you that ole isn't the right manager, and also that he isn't to blame at the end of the :day.

But give credit where it is due as much as you give criticisms, because you are one sided and bias
I have blamed martial too much. Yes he missed chances and thats on him. But you dont just relax and lose matches because you hava a safety net of blaming your striker.

The truth is with Ole as coach, we will continue losing and blaming one person or the other
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 9:06am On Dec 03, 2020
KingAlabi:
What is this one saying
So we should not blame martial ?

I guess you didn't do probability, except is only man united probability doesn't work for . cheesy
You can blame martial all you want, but the manager is to be blame. Ole is not s manager that can win anything. He us too limited and lacks big game charisma and tact. This tends to rob in on the players.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 9:02am On Dec 03, 2020
patrickmuf:
Spot on...
Whenever you see people giving silly excuses for failure, they will invent a ridiculous word to justify it, beginning of season when chelsea playeres de mess up. The excuse was Work rate, Recoveries, Out of position bla bla bla.

Pogba own na unlock, Matial own na boasting. Excuses Excuses everywhere.

Now Ole own na Toe to Toe. Shey when season end na the number of wins dem de count abi na Toe to toe dem de count?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 8:58am On Dec 03, 2020
KingAlabi:
Which kin talk be this na

If martial scored those sitters we for no dey hear this shalaye now
When I dey work for bank one of our favourite sayings is "A LAGARD WILL ALWAYS HAVE AN EXCUSE" if if if. If my aunty has a manhood she would have been my uncle.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 8:55am On Dec 03, 2020
KingAlabi:
grin grin grin grin

When last did James play a full game for Wales

And do you watch Wales matches cheesy

Well agenda must agenda
Then you are not watching matches . Go and check wales in Qualifiers and Nation league matches. Giggs is running rings over teams at league B. James plays all those matches, infact he is their go-to-man, he usually assists or score. Giggs use players like Ampadu, Levitt, James, Neco Williams, Phillips, woodburn, Robson Kanu etc to win matches consistently. Most of his players are playing in Championship, League 1 or SPL. Oga Alabi go and watch wales and see their result so we can continue this discussion . Give Ole that team, he will relagate them to league D
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 8:47am On Dec 03, 2020
odizeey:
When it comes to finishing, Greenwood is ahead of Martial. No case there. There are players that can perform magic even if they are not playing well in a game. Have you noticed the power in Greenwood's shot?

Do you know Greenwood can play left, right and center? Martial is comfortable with left and center.

To me, Greenwood will offer more, holding form as a constant.

On the flip side, start Martial in the first half. Remove Martial if he is bad in the first and half and start Greenwood in the second half. There is a reason why be is a manager. He should do his job. We even have Dan James who could have been used in a game like this.
People will laugh you off at this but, Its the same James that beasts games at Wales. Ordinary Giggs sef sabi use am but our Ladan Bosso with Norway passport will require a world class eleven to win a simple match. Look at Klopp making use of Neco Williams, Phillips, Curtis Jones to win Matches. Take James now to Leeds united and see how he will turn unplayable.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 8:40am On Dec 03, 2020
Jodera:
I never see olé own sha.

But also, I've never seen in any team where a captain will always put his teammate(s) under the bus. A captain is always meant to defend his players or teammates no matter how wrong the player is. This is the first time I've seen a captain dragging his player publicly. It's no agenda, it's fact!
I said Maguire should be striped of the captains armband, they said I have an agenda.

Sami Hyppia was removed by in 2004 as captain of Liverpool, at that time he was even one of the best players in Liverpool. Gerrald was awarded the captain, they won UCL that season.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 8:37am On Dec 03, 2020
nani667:
Simply Cluelessness


#SackTheFraud
Nani you are now my guy.

WIN
LOSE
DRAW
WIN TROPHY, WIN ANYTHING.


#OLEOUT
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 8:35am On Dec 03, 2020
patrickmuf:
We have a very good team on one hand that can go toe-to-toe with any other team but then again, we have one of the worst coaches around...
With Ole We will always go toe to toe. But win kwanu mba. Its crystal clear that Ole is one of the worst managers in rhe league.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 8:34am On Dec 03, 2020
Expert17:
grin grin grin grin grin grin
You de waste your time with that lunatic. Anyday you see me respond to that oaf, cal me a bastard. Same with one chelsea fan, I never respond to them no matter what they say, I just leave them to their folly
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 8:17am On Dec 03, 2020
LostMyZeal:
Eyaa...Ole took them to cloud 9 and left them hanging cheesy cheesy
More like giving candy to a kid and snatching it away


Y'all don't worry...Ole might renew una cloud 9 subscription against West Ham and the orgasm will be had again wink wink wink

There's a way you'd expect a good coach to handle misfiring players...
The example is not even that far sef...see Lampard...no nonsense man to the fvckin core...baba dey bench anybody


I know say una despise my gospel of truth...but the Sevilla Chelsea humiliated with the likes of ziyech and Werner on bench is a team we'll struggle against anytime

I repeat...good coaches are salivating to have this teamand this team can compete for any goddamn thing angry angry angry


Y'all wait for the next orgasm
No orgasm today....come tomorrow tongue tongue tongue
You captured all the truths here. But most man utd fans recently are usually deluded.
The main reason Ole misbehaves and gambles anyhow was that he just needed to string together 2 wins and boom! his job is safe. Lampard doesn't have that luxury so is all Chelsea managers since Abramovic came, thats why they dont joke or do mr nice guy with aany player they are result oriented

You win league this season with Chelsea, or even double, show no real sign of progress next season, you are off. Ancellotti, Conte and Mourinho are typical examples, Di matteo won UCL and FA cup cup the previous season, he did not last up to Xmas. Or you come in as a manager, performs below the person you replaced, you are off too by xmas, you dont even need to be awful. Chelsea have not been better than Man United player for player for many seasons, but they always win something, the difference is the quality of the managers and how serious the club prioritises results, thats why united Job is usually coveted, because you can misbehave anyhow you want and still finish the season. Last season Ole was clearly on the ropes and was set to miss out on top 4 until Covid19 and the lucky signing of Bruno gave him a ridiculous lifeline. Because pogba and Rashford were already out of the season if not for covid. With a serious club, Ole would have been off at the end of last season after bottling FA cup and Europa Semis.

Its also baffling, that a so called big club like United, indulges players who are clearly not good enough for years before offloading them, we persist with them, pampering them, paying them extortionate wages and still they can't play their hearts out, eg Martial and Pogba, we also persist with injury prone players and refuse to offload.

I know it might not be popular at the moment but DDG should not be earning more than Oblak, Neuer, Allison, Ter Stegen and Hugo Lloris for whatever reason, DDG only cut out his errors and raring to go due to his place is in danger now. He was relaxed for a long time dropping disasterclasses week in week out until Henderson came, that goes for other outfield players.

Check any club with high manager turnover, they are usually successful, because the managers are result oriented and doesnt experiment. Imagine Solskjaer leaning coaching with a club like Man United. Del Bosque won league and 2 UCL with Madrid, he was off once he was eliminated by Juve in the semis of UCL despite winning the league that season, Ancellotti, Ben schuster, Henkyes, Capello and even Mourinho won something but were sacked the moment the saw signs of slacking, the result is there fall all to see, same with bayern, same with Barca. Madrid will never allow underperforming players more than one extra season to find his feet, thats a serious club, Jones, Bailly, Rojo, Lingard and Pogba are still at the club occupying space, Solskjaer will even tell you that they are in his plans, do you think he will say that at Chelsea or Madrid?


The earlier Ole Gunnar Solskjaer is sacked and sent back to his Scandinavian country the better. We will keep going round and round without any progress.

#OLEOUT
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m):
elampiro:
McTominay and Fred were okay bar the wirelessness of Fred. If I am not wrong, their mobility as well as Tuanzebe caged the frontline of PSG. PSG has have very fast legs in their front and they would murder slow legs like Pogba a d Matic combo
If a Midfield of Mctominay, Vdb and Bruno cant protect our defence, then Maguire and Lindelof dont have any business being man united defenders. What you just described now is just like we are playing with 10 men
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 12:03am On Dec 03, 2020
Lana1:
That was how I joined people in blaming Mourinho for costing Martial a world Cup medal.


If u've watched him unbiased for the last 4 years, then u'd know how much of a useless and inconsistent basket he is.


His 20 goals last season looking more and more like a fluke and an outlier with every passing day.
Those of us that are critical of Martial are seen as haters, we pamper useless players in this club. Martial has spent 5 years now in united he is now 24 almosy 25. Yet he walks around the pitch every match. People always lump him with Rashford, But come on, martial started before Rashford and Rashford came out from the academy, check their performance over the year, Martial has been Fuc.k.ing overated and pampered, Rashford is leagues ahead of Martial in terms of professionalsm . Players like him and Pogba are lazy and too indulgent.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 11:33pm On Dec 02, 2020
Uniquisite:
Surprised noone said anything about Bruno lowkey performance tonight.. Its like he was not fit or something
Ole played Mctominay and Fred to be a double pivot, they are doing the work of one person, a competent DM. Danilo and Verrati was on Bruno. The game was begging for Matic for Mctominay, Then Fred for Pogba/VDB. Martial off in 60 mins for Greenwood. But no our manager is waiting for Jesus to come
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 11:10pm On Dec 02, 2020
When we say sack ole. They will say we are haters.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 9:55pm On Dec 02, 2020
We really need Defensive midfielder oo, we no get any CM for this game. Mctoms and Fred are play 1 position leaving Bruno to be covering for 2 people.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 4:15am On Dec 01, 2020
https://twitter.com/FernandesThings/status/1333478172948631569?s=19

This is Bruno calling on team mates to regroup immediately after cavani equalised vs Southampton.
Its not jyst about the passes, the goals, the assist or performance. Bruno brings incredible mentality through leadership to the team. That's why I dont really care about his in field game performance, he has moments of magic somewhere in him. He had a poor game last weekend by his standards but ended up having a hand in 2 of the 3 goals. Even the last goal he organised the team laid the pass for Rashford for his assist. Imagine if Klopp or Guardiola have somebody like this in their team.

The mad thing about Bruno is that, he is the leader, the best player, the top scorer, the most consistent and its not even close. Solskjaer doesn't just want to disgrace Maguire by striping him of the captain armband, even the players and the coaching crew recognise him as the captain
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 4:05am On Dec 01, 2020
patrickmuf:
As always, we vs them...

Mediocrity has finally crept in...Sutton without Ings and Redmond isn't quite the same team. Savour the win as we all should but don't even try to knock off their coach as he has done well...

If Ole is this inconsistent with our present crop of players, you wonder how bad his team will look if he managed Sutton
Not discounting your points. But it is Soton rather than Sutton. In fact there is Sutton United in Confrence Premier League
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 9:05am On Nov 30, 2020
KingAlabi:
The main competition starts

But I honestly prefer the current de gae to Henderson
It depends of the performance of Henderson. DDG has been very good this season though

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