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nitrogen:
Same Luke Shaw that you guys are saying that he has been useless since he got to Utd. He has not done half of what he did at Southampton now, you've forgotten?

Same set of people concluded that DeGea is BS, he should be sold.......CapitalCee, you need some bottles of Origin.......

Yes Luke Shaw is bad sometimes, but that's to show you the kind of people standing out to be counted, but Pogba cannot in his 4 years at the club

nitrogen:
And that's why he is the numbers guy. Penalties should make over 50 percent of his goals. In terms of assists, yes, he has a lot because he plays the number 10 role. Pogba does not even need to play as a 10 before dropping assists and even scoring goals. Check 18/19 Pogba stats.

If he like let penalties be all his goals. Any player that want to take the penalty responsibility should do so. Bruno is not the reason pogba doesn't know how to take PKs

TrebleChamp:
Bro i don't do stat, i base my judgement on what i see a player do on the pitch. Fraudgba is a rubbish signing and he is playing rubbish after 4 years plus...

� � �. Even stat wise seft, he is rubbish

nitrogen:
What are you smoking now? What about 2018/2019 season? Nawa o

Jose has personal issues with Pogba, so forget the virus thing.....same thing we would see happen between Bruno and OGS if things thong get better!

Luke Shaw was the player of the season not Pogba, he even played down the award as nobody deserved any accolade that season, that was the season you were telling me pogba stood out. Pogba did not do anything extraordinary. When we needed him to do something reasonable when we were chasing top 4, he kept dropping disasterclasses on matchday basis.

odizeey:
Same Bruno you guys were saying should keep it simple ABI.

Let's stop acting like Pogba has not done something of note in this club. It's unfair. I brought overall 2019 stat. I don't know if that stuff is not credible again.

Men I no really understand.

No reasonable person will tell Bruno to keep anything simple. Those people are pogba fanboys. Pogba has not done anything of note at the club.its been 4 years now

timay:
Even at 100M, Baba will still push for him because for a player like Kane , in this spoilt Transfer fee era, 100M is not too much to pay for Harry Kane who is still young and would have given like 7 or more years to the team. Have you guys forgotten we bought a 29year old RVP with one year left on his contract for 36M in 2012. For that time, it was like overpaying for someone that will be a free agent in 6 months. Yet Baba still buy am.

£24m still big at that time though

timay:
Oga , the club activated that one year option, because there is a possibility of getting some money out of him if the likes of Madrid come around .

Why didn't they offer him new contract if the club actually fancied having for more time

Thank you. Pogba is done, I don't even mind if we let him go for free in 2 years time

nitrogen:
My God! Maybe you did not watch Utd at that time. Meanwhile, most of our big games were dominated by players like Pogba, Rashford, Ibra, even Martial.

Again, the streets are unforgiving. It's so sad!

I have a question, why is Pogba effective when playing for France?

I don't care what he does for France. There players that does well in national team even if they are not world class. Pogba should be good everywhere.

nitrogen:
How many penalties has Pogba taken in the EPL, what is the success rate? Infact, how many penalties were awarded to Utd between 2016 and 2019 vs 19/20 season? Can you back your assertions with numbers/facts?

OGS plays one system, we all know it, and it's aparent that it does not work for Pogba, simple! When OGS was relying on Counter-attacks, who was always the ochestrator. You guys are fickle!

I won't bother with any numbers but Pogba was rubbish at penalties and he missed quite a few. When he was our designated PK taker we got a good number of PKs and his success rate was very average. As a Man United fan if you get a crucial PK now who would you prefer to take it? Pogba or Bruno?

OGS is not the only manager that played him at United, Jose got frustrated with him and even called him a virus. Name one single season Pogba has stood out as the stand out player.

Nezzjnr:
Just a reminder that Sir Alex played Wazza out of position just to accommodate RVP.... Wazza was still banging in goals and never made his grievances known to the club


If we can get a good deal on Pogba... We should sell asap abeg

Thank you very much. We must apply Beer-Lambert equation to figure out the best place to play him. Almost every midfielder in this world have to at one point or the other play out of position, your quality will still show if you are good and serious

-Flamini played LB in Arsenal UCL in 2006.

-Essien played RB in a lot Chelsea's big games even in the UCL final in Moscow and assisted lampard goal.

-Rooney has played CF, SS, RWF, LWF, AMF, CM all at United and still ended up as club record scorer.

-Even small Mount and Havertz have played everywhere apart from DM within these few weeks.
-Even Bruno has played CM, LW, AM and SS since he came.

-Fletcher plays everywhere from RW, LW, DM, CDM, AM even at Right back sometimes. And I can guarantee you that Pogba with all his carry shoulders haven't done half of what Fletcher did at united

-Giggs was brought in to replace suspended Scholes in 1999 final as CAM and he assisted one goal and did well.
-Hargreaves played RB in semifinals vs Barca when Vidic was injured to shift Brown to Central defence. And played RW in the final with Chelsea to accommodate both Carrick and Scholes.

I can go on and on. But Pogba fan boys have blamed everything blamable just to make excuses for that useless Bakayoko with more social media followers

nitrogen:
What are your points? What has Bruno done? Why would someone say what you just said? You've forgotten the french combination, Pogba-Ibra combo, Pogba-Rashford, Pogba against City, Pogba against Chelsea, Europa cup win, 2nd position in the league etc.. Bruno has not even done 1 year at United.

Your matter tire me o.

Which Pogba Ibra combo? Nothing special with it. How many assist pogba give Ibra?
The rest you are just picking few matches fir 4 good years. I can also pick matches where Jones and Rojo where unplayable. Our Europa league win was courtesy of winners from Rashford and Mkhitaryan at the later stage and Ibra at early stage. Bruno has not done one year but he handed us CL football on the plate when all hope is gone

KingAlabi:
Bruno played 80% of the time in sporting as a 10

Pogba hasn't played that position 40% in his lifetime

And the few times I have seen he played there he didn't drop consistent performance

Don't mind him defending the indefensible. Even in United the first few games Bruno played were as a CM. He still won man of the match in both games

nitrogen:
Bruno is doing nothing that Pogba has not done before, so take it easy abeg. Bruno plays all the penalties and is manning the number 10 position which gives him the chance to rack up assists.

Pogba loses the ball as a 10, Bruno gives the ball away as a 10........when playing counter-attacks, Bruno no near Pogba, pass accuracy nko? Bruno no reach. Pogba is just a victim of circumstances. Systems changed, and it does not favor him. Just change the system and watch him excel.

Not like the current system is even good.

Odiegwu, that's what we keep hearing from Pogba fan boys. Let him show it if he has it. Bruno is showing it with numbers, commitments, character and team effort. All we keep hearing of pogba is how he is good, show it kwanu on the pitch, whosai. Stop the penalty argument biko, pogba was once our pk taker and he was rubbish in it. Bruno plays PK well hence his designation. The ability to hold your nerve and convert a penalty is also part of being good. Stop making excuses for the expensive flop.

Change system for pogba.
Buy 2 World class CDM for Pogba.
Sack manager for pogba.
Play him 10, play him 6, play him from the left, play him from the right. Play him everywhere.
Figure out his best position.
Unlock pogba.
Remove defensive responsibilities from pogba.
Do everything for pogba, yet pogba doesn't want to do anything for the team.

The same system and players you guys are complaining about since, Bruno came in and won EPL player of the month consecutively and was in the team of the year, and was the club player of the year. yet he is not near pogba in everything.

nitrogen:
Mehn, these streets are rough and unforgiving! You guys get carried away so easily, also, both dont play same role, so why the comparison? Maybe we play double 10, and get both of them to share penalties, and you'll see that Pogba is also a numbers guy.

Not a fair thing to say!

Bruno is not just penalties guy, look inwards. If you can't see my points then I don't know what to say.

That they don't play the same role is not the point here. For example Matic has contributed more to United than Sanchez.

timay:
They want Pogba that likes slowing games down with excessive dribbles to play 10

A position that you'll have very little space to work with, so you'll need to be fast , think fast, because when the ball gets to you , it's always in the opposing area where you are easily closed down. If Pogba plays Bruno role, Una go curse am las las

His real role is in the deep or as a CM. It's just that Ole wants quick passing and movements, but Pogba won't give you that and he can't chase ball when we are on the back foot like the way Mctominay, Fred or Bruno dey chase players like thief

People sometimes say Bruno has a poor game but most of the times, the movement of the forward line are not at sync at all. Look at his link up play with VDB and Mata very sleek. And his (bruno) position is the must difficult and complex in the team, because he is tasked with finding space in oppositions half. The only thing we demanded from Pogba is just to be serious and orchestrate play from deep, yet he fails always with all the tasks given to him.

In less than just a year Bruno has done more than what pogba has done totally in 4 years.

afrodoc2:
Pogba was not a 10 as a youth player, he wasn’t a 10 in Juve, he does not play as a 10 for France.

When he was used as a 10 for a short period under JM he struggled to get involved in games and people said he had to be played in a deeper role so that he can influence games.

Now you are saying he should be moved back again to 10?

Thank you. There is no single position he has not been played in, yet for 4 years there haven't been any time he sustained a top level for for 10 games consecutively. Something Rashford, Martial, Even Small Greenwood has done.

patrickmuf:
Nothing is wrong with him, he just had to curb his attacking forays forward because he was becoming a target for opposition wingers worst off, he isn't blessed with pace like Robertson...

Very good. And with VVD now out, Fabinho will occasionally drop to CB, no one will protect his forward forays.

afrodoc2:
PSG use their full backs to push forward and create width. We will most likely be chasing and closing down their players for long periods.

Not a Mata game.

I would play a 3-5-2 and leave Martial and Rashford up front.

Lindelof, Maguire, Shaw as CBs.

Telles, AWB as wingbacks.

Matic, Bruno, VDB in midfield.

Cavani, Greenwood, Pogba, Bailly, Fred, McTom on the bench.

Excellent

eph12:
By the way, looks like something is wrong with Arnold at LFC. We don't see all those spam crosses again. He's taken more defensive role. In fact it was Henderson I was seeing down that wing most of the time

Teams have figured him out, he is poor defensively do teams just load that his position with balls, giving him more defensive work to do, he is now more concerned about his defensive duties now. With VVD getting injured now, he will be on a long thing. TAA has been on my fantasy team, he has consistently disappointed me. I will sell him eventually

eph12:
Pogba is a fine player but he is just not suited for such role. If we need our defenders bombing forward, we will definitely need midfielders that can sit and neutralize any counters

Which role is Jogba suited for? He has been played in every single midfield position, snd with several midfielders, some bought specifically for him, in all he failed to do anything significant. All the midfielders we signed could not unlock Pogba, his mates like Mata, Bruno, Mctoms, Herrera etc excel in different midfield positions. Yesterday Bruno went to the Left wing immediately James went out and pogba and VDB entered and had a hand in all 3 goals scored after that, Mata played from the right too and excelled. But for Jogba we are still looking for the best position for him since 4 years now, he is 27 now and doesn't want to have sense. Even Havertz and Mount that are much younger than him have been played in variety of midfield positions by Lampard and still excel, but for the foo.l we still need to use almighty formula and schrodinger equation to figure out the best position to play him and best players to unlock him with. If not that Ole is another I.diot on his own right, that Virus would have been booted out long ago. V

Lana1:
Eew. Find someone else abeg.

Lol. I like the guy just like many people. But his attitude is rubbish. He will be there politician like Rashford go overtake am

eph12:
I don't think Martial has that mental capacity to thrive with competition.

Hmm. It will be a problem for him oo. Because if we bring in a good manager and if either one of Facu or Diallo blow plus Rashford and greenwood. E go hard am oo

Lana1:
Baba OGS needs to find a way to make VDB, Bruno and Rashford work. Those 3 can cause any team problems. But baba OGS no get sense. He will still bench VDB for next match.

What else is new under the sun?

Add Greenwood there and we are there. My hearts also yearns for Martial. A front Five of : Bruno, Greenwood, VDB, Rashford and Martial is not shabby. Den find s very very combative DM. But ole doesn't have sense at all.

KingAlabi:
I don't like he lascadisca attitude, same with Pogba.

He is good no doubt na im character dey vex me.

With Cavani, Rashford, Greenwood and possibly Diallo fighting for places, he will brace ip

eph12:
That was Mata. Mata is our designated corner kick taker when he's on the pitch

Oh I see i think say na Bruno sef

afrodoc2:
VDB is a very smart footballer. His brain is on a high level. Dan James is relatively headless.

Am telling you. The moment he came on, the movement was fantastic. Before Bruno’s passes looked sloppy, but the issue was that James wasn't at sync with his brilliant play.

Expert17:
The idiot will start Fred and Flogba ahead of VDB again

Ole is just Norwegian ladan bosso

eph12:
1 assist for Bruno

2 assist. The Corner for magwaya goal and the last rashford goals were his assists

KingAlabi:
He didn't play there althrought the match though

But he was superb

If Cavani fit bench martial permanently
Joy will be in my heart

Not bench sha. He is our best Left winger. He can drive in from there.

Lana1:
One moment it's 1-1.

You run go comot rice for fire and comeback to see 4-1. Football just dey somehow this season


Awon weyrey. Dem dey disguise. Whatever they did in that last 5 mins, they should go and figure out how to start doing it for 90mins.

VDB changed the game. Deft and brilliant touches in midfield with mata and Bruno. James is not intelligent

Rashford - 1 goal 2 assists.
Bruno 1 goal 2 assists.

For me Martial should return to to his left wing. He no sabi play CF. Rashford looks far better in that position

Mrviktor:
Mata must play against PSG oh.

Yes that's what I wanted to say. Ole should be using msta effectively. Pkay him like every 4 games. Get like 15-20 starts off him.