afrodoc2: He thinks it is a sunken place that you can just accidentally get into, LOL. Diggz it is top 4 o, not bottom 4. Those who dwell in sunken places can't aspire to such heights.
lol don't mind him, they will get into top 4 with all their false 9 and Fake 9. their Real 9 is a Wife minder
diggz: I am not supporting your useless club in anyway... I want Liverpool to win.... all your permutations will be useless when we get into the top four.... I have warned you guys before.... Top four finish is only guaranteed for man city as at today....
lol. nobody is begging you to support us. tthere is already 750m people doing that. I laugh you when you say you will get into top 4. you are 5 points off spurs.
you should be rooting for a united win, with 8 games to go, a Liverpool win, coupled with a spurs win today, (esp now that they are free from champions league worrie) will mean your alcoholic team should go and be searching for hotels in Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan, Isreal and Bosnia Herzegovina.
afrodoc2: What formation or line up do you want us to use? An alternative lineup in the 4-3-1-2 i proposed is if Sanchez drops to the 10 position and we start Lukaku n Rashford on top with Lingard on the bench (heard Martial is injured).
I will suggest this alternative formation to accommodate on more attacker, i.e Rashford, to compensate for the loss of Martial. then Matic as a pivot. with Pogba and Mata in front of him. but this will mean we will lack width which Val and Young won't be able to cover due to rampaging Mane and Mo. So I suspect Mou will go with the same formation he played versus Chelsea, with Rashford or Lingard replacing Martial. that is Matic, Mctoms, Pogba; Sanchez, Rashford/Lingard, Lukaku.
Oasis007: Taaaaah....... sacrifice wetiiiiinnnnnnnnn! Seems the World gonna end if we win both Matches?! I don't wanna know, but JM must grind out Results Today and on Tuesday!
We are playing both Matches at Old Trafford, thus why are we scare of winning with massive Fans behind the Team?!
Common....... we can't be fearing and respecting our Opponents too much, cos that ain't making us a big Club anymore.
I did not say we should sacrifice. I said more attention should be given to the Tuesday match
afrodoc2: I expect a more open game than in our away fixtures with them. Being at home we will attack a little more and Liverpool always attacks. I would like a 4-3-1-2 as follows:
Valencia Bailly Smalling Shaw
Matic McTominay Pogba
Lingard Lukaku Sanchez.
Martial need to start, or is he injured? if he is injured, then we need Rashford.
afrodoc2: Dead on arrival debate. Gerrard has been known to make asinine statements before, and of course his asininophilia would incease since Salah is a Liverpool player. Drogba and Yaya Toure say he is talking crap.
even Elhadji Diouf has done better than Sallah. of my head even without research. the following names have performed more that Mo in their careers.
Kanu, Etoo, Drogba, George Weah, Abedi Pele, Diouf, Yaya Toure, Victor Ikpeba and Freddie Kanoute. even our own Finidi George, Mahrez and Benni McCarthy have a case on him
We have a very important game on Tuesday, I rather trade this one and win that one. Shekpe in 5th is 9 points behind us, they are not catching us definitely. and there is no difference between 2nd-4th now. i think mourinho should try and navigate this game, but greater attention should be on the game versus the dangerous Andalusians
raumdeuter: Vs PSG Mourinho had 1 goal lead with 1 away goal yet lost
Vs athletico had no away goal took the lead and conceded 3
Both at home
Why are you being dishonest. I don't like this your attitude it's irritating.
when Chelsea were ahead, by 1-0, PSG did not require 2 goals to stay in the tie, yesterday, anything other than 2 goals, juvey are out. vs Athletico Chelsea took the lead, but a single goal hfrom Athletico will infact eliminate Chelsea. not same scenerio.
had their been a point when Mourinhos opponent require to score twice to remain in the competition and have succeeded?
morever we are all in unison that Mourinho is a useless manager without identity and have past it.
codedguy1: What's the meaning of what you said there? That if Mourinho is given a supposedly lesser team like burnley that juv is out implying that he won't lose the match. We all know in what context the arguement was. Except you want to bring in specific scenerio like what you and raumdeuter were deliberating on.
1-0 lead with 2 away goals. is a two goal advantage. even if juve scored 1 goal they will be eliminated. I said 1-0 lead with 2 away goals in the bag, read again brother.
Baldg: Very true. What I expect from Mou most times is to have a set template of control and dictated tempo of defense(by choice) or attack (by circumstance).
The dilemma I find is, why stifle your attacking tools.
That's where the Problem lies, in occasions, he overdo it to the detriment of the team (I mentioned this earlier). managers need to be flexible, that is where SAF comes into player, sometimes he is very gong ho, some other time he is conservative, in some special cases he outrightly parks the bus. there should be a balance.
my issue with some people is that Poch and Klopp does no wrong and so their style is the best.
eph12: I don't have a problem with Mourinho, I am actually afraid for my team. If Mourinho decides to move on by end of next season we will be back to square one, if not worse than that. No identity, crappy football, just a bunch of overfed babies looking for a lucky break.
Poch is crappy, he is useless, what happened to him can never happen to Mou, please! Did we not face this Poch team a couple of days ago?
Ogbeni ok. I agree, Mou is a useless manager without identity, while others like Poch are Guardiola and SAF rolled into one. can be proceed to more reasonable debate if there is any?
eph12: You were the one listing the things that could never happen to Jose, nobody said anything about Pep. You had some of us wondering if all these can never happen to Jose, what then is the problem or what are the likely things that could happen to Jose if those ones can't?
it have never happened to him yes and that's a fact. what is your problem even with Mou? this is just like me not getting any course below C during my undergraduate, and someone mentioned it, what is wrong that?
patrickmuf: True, he needs to remain at Spurs. His situation is similar to Simeone who is doing so well making good players play their hearts out but in a bigger club, he might have players question his methods...It's all probability for now.
his situation my be like simeoni. but simeoni at least reached 2 champions league final, won the Europa, copa dey rey, UEFA super cup, and Laliga. it's not the same. simeoni have a higher ceiling and will obviously do better at a bigger club
codedguy1: The way we argue or put our positions sometimes on this board is rather ridiculous.
A coach cannot lose a game again. Must every coach win every match?
Capitacee, the way you dey yarn say mou cannot lose a game that he has gone a goal up is funny as if this same mou has not lost to teams that he was expected to win or must other teams allow him go a goal up first and then try to beat him in the 2nd half?
The games Mou has lost this s3ason did he not start from 0 - 0?
Tomorrow now if pochetinno beats city with a great performance from his team we will not hear how naive and inexperienced he is.
Boasting on the ability of someone else get as be my brother.
when did I say this? please get your facts right. we are discussing here about matches, what is wrong is giving my opinion? what is this crase about trying so hard to discredit somebody?
eph12: Mourinho won the champions league in 2004 and 2010. In between those years and from 2010 till date why has Mourinho not won more since he will never lose to this or lose from that? He took a break from the competition or what?
Yes . mou is now a useless manager. who is now out of his depth. just like Pep went to a break after 2011.
dubylhover: d funny thing is that everyone is saying poch should replace emery at psg,but would it really make a difference?
Don't mind them, they are even suggesting him for united, so that he will come here and 5 years without trophy. at least Emery won Europa, what has poch won ?
Someone said in the last 2 CL Mourinho played his team actually went ahead at home and still ended up crashing out one to a 10 man PSG
But I know stuffs like that na only Poch he dey happen to not Mourinho
Did the opponent require 2 goals to eliminate him? why can't you take your L and go in peace? until you show me when mourinho surrendered a two advantage, everything you are saying is balderdash.
raumdeuter: This is hilarious why give such a specific example. Ok let me ask you to give an example of a game where Pep or Klopp in the CL had 2 away goals and was leading 1-0 in the 60min and lost by 2-1 when the game was played on a Tuesday in March
I no get you strenght. I said that mourinho will never lose when in this position that spurs is in. where his team will require to concede 2 goals without scoring to be eliminated. why are you running around in circles. if you can't give me an example of when mourinho surrendered a two 2 goal advantage at any point good night. it's obvious you re either confused or just pulling one of your tricks.
I swear if you give mourinho Burnley and he is leading juve 1-0 at half time, with 2 away goals already in the bag, Juve is out.
Love mou or hate him. he will never throw away that lead. give mourinho this sane spurs team, immediately he goes 1-0 up. he will strifle Juve and close out the game
I have now given you two scenarios where Mourinho team had the lead on aggregate and they lost the tie
Dayo you did not give me 2 scenarios where Mou was leading 1-0 at half time with 2 away goals and he lost.
the bayern example, His team were behind from the first leg, they score 2 in 14 minutes. Bayern require just one goal to tie it. and they have 76 minutes to do that not 30 minutes.
the Athletico example. the first leg was goalless in Spain. Chelsea led 1-0 through Torres. and it was very early. any goal by Athletico will eliminate Chelsea. how is it the same?
chidexxy007: Tottenham just acted spurs-like.. Why struggle to draw in Turin when You will still Lose at home. Meanwhile Poch needs to both learn and grow very fast. 1 nil up @half time, what is Wanyama still seating on that bench for? What happens to seeing match off? They sat deep with Winks in midfield against RM at Bernabeu and got a good result, why not employ same tactics with Wanyama and Dembele against Juve, u're a goal up ffs.
#rubbish
I echoed this your sentiment, they labbeled me a moi fan. same moi I lambasted here last week. Simply remove one of your attacking players, add wayama to block space for Dybala and pjanic, while helping Trippier and Davies track the new subs Leichsteiner and Asamoah. the 2 CB have no business leaving that Goal area. now Erickson, Kane and Alli/son will now run at their old and tired backline. there is no way juve would score 2.
raumdeuter: Mourinho led Atletico 1-0 at home and still lost the game
2012 Mourinho with Madrid led Bayern 2-0 Bayern came back on aggregtes and the game went to penalties which Mourinho lost
juve needed 2 goals to avoid elimination in the last 30 minutes. Bayern was leading 2-1, from the first leg. real raced into a 2 goal lead to in 14 minutes. at that point bayern just needed a goal in 76 minutes to tie it. which they just did. here spurs were leading, and juve need to score 2 in just 30mins. your example is way off.