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sleekdot:
WHy is the Wenger question beating about the bush. Your reason for arguing for Mourinho is that he has won more trohies in England than others, but Wenger has won more trophies in ENgland than others So why are you not pushing for Wenger

I dont understand why this is so hard. Its called team of the SEASON that means the best people for this season not for their entire career
Sterling this season has been better than Mahrez or Sanchez and rightfully will be picked

Okay lets make this simple, there are PFA awards coming in a few weeks Should we wager on who would be picked for the team? If Sterling makes it you give me $1k, If Sanchez or Mahrez makes it I give you $1k

If there is a manager of the season award in the PFA Guardiola wins you give me $1k Mou wins it I give you $1k

Is this fair enough and does it resolve this confusion

If you take this bet then I agree that I am the one not logical, if you refuse this bet then can we agree that you are the one not logical

DEAL or no DEAL?

Mind you I not making a case for who won more in England. Mou is the most successful manager in the World now. no manager still Managing has won more trophies than him. Wenger is not more successful than mourinho for example. but mou is more successful than pep, Klopp Conte and poch for example, which bellies his reputation. Hence can never be an assistant to anyone still Managing never mind pep or hilariously Klopp as you stated initially. As even this season Mou has performed better than Klopp in all competitions. If SAF has still been coaching, then Mou can be his assistant not to his subordinates.

liveLongNprospa:
Dayo my man

Stick to the argument.
These are WC awards. They are open to everybody.
I can understand your hate for English players, but this argument holds no water.

You are trying to bring in different examples to suit your argument.
I am sticking to just this argument alone.

So who is better? And why is he better.
Also do you have the numbers and awards to support your claim?

If you can't provide these things then please take a chill pill and argue something else

lol whenever an argument is turning against dayo, he will twist the criteria to suit his narrative. that's when you will start hearing hilarious words like.
catchment area, Poling boot award, League cup is not a major trophy, etc. leave him he is a comedian

sleekdot:
If we are to pick the best Buli coach in 2012, to coach the Buli team of the year Klopp would have been the one not Heynckes

if we are to pick the coach t manage the team of last season Conte would have been there ahead of Pep or Mourinho

The team is called team of the SEASON not of the past 2 decades.

I you have cemented my view about you. thanks for not. disappointing me.

sleekdot:
Those are just strawman arguments
I love Scholes and he is an Englishman, I love Gazza he is an Englishman, I love McManaman he is an Englishman. I dont rate Hazard as high and he is not English. I don't like Higuain and he is not English

I think Drogba is better than Owen, You think Drogba is better than Owen but you said mine was because of English hate, what is your own reason for picking Drogba ahead of Owen? Do you also hate English players

It's clear to all and sundry that Terry is head and shoulders better than baoteng who was made to dance atilogwu in front of the whole world.

sleekdot:
You said the point is about coaches and their lifetime achievement and trophies they won several years ago will always make them elite, I asked you if Wenger is the best or top 2 in the league based on your logic and you are now asking me to leave Wenger alone

Is it because Wenger defeats your logic?

Wenger did not defeat my logic you are just beating about the bush.

now answer this simple questions. Please as numbered.

1. After the 2012 season, would you have Placed Mancini or Di matteo as managers while SAF is their assistants.
2. As at may 2017 would Zidane be the manager of your team while Pep is the assistant.

3. should we do away with the reputation of heynkes, since Klopp waz on top of henckyes in 2012 and make Klopp the manager and heynckes the assistant?

4. so after last season Conte should immediately be turbaned the manager while PEP is his assistant?

ogbeni do you check what you are typing at all?

Kholiwe:
Don't be deluded. Drogba was never better than Owen.

people might have different opinions but to me Drogba is slightly better than Micheal. but dayo is notorious for his hate for Englishmen. like his Boateng vs Terry debate. and he said Ferdinand only played for man u because of catchment area.

sleekdot:
Pierre Littbarski was not average he was above average and any above average German should be better than elite ENglish by default just like an average Brazilian footballer is better than an elite Swedish player.

That is the reason Henrik Larson might be the best Swedish player of all time but wont be better than say a Juninho Jardel Elber who were considered average in Brazilian standard

England is a country notorious for producing mediocre talents. Even in their league, most of the best players are rarely English

Yes Jardel and Juninho are better than Zlatan

afrodoc2:
You are not making sense with this submission. We are comparing Bobby Charlton and Littbarski not average somebody vs average somebody.

Bobby Charlton
1966 Ballon d'Or Golden Ball, 1967 Ballon d'Or Silver Ball, 1968 Ballon d'Or Silver Ball, 1966 World Cup Golden Ball, 1966 and 1970 World Cup All Star Team, World Cup All Time Team 1994, BEASTED a World Cup Final, BEASTED a European Cup Final and scored 2 goals, 49 international goals mainly as a midfielder.

Littbarski
1985 German Goal of the year, 18 international goals.

Yet, "Littbarski is better than Bobby Charlton"..........Dayo 2018. No Anti-English bias indeed.

sometimes dayo don't check most of his post, before clicking the submit button. he knows the game well but his amalanomics sometimes makes him comment like hensbrain

sleekdot:
There is a reason Mourinho is not top of the league currently and he isnt even within a 10point reach of the top. Someone who is better sits there

Yes because Klopp that sat on top of bundesliga for 2 seasons ahead of heynckes is better than him, or Mancini is better than SAF. or Conte that Sat there last season is better than mou or pep. this is what you call logic abi?

sleekdot:
You answer lies in your response to the below:

Is Wenger the best coach or top 2 best coach in the current EPL?

Hint: No other coach has won more EPL titles than him, Further hint: only 1 coach has won more than half of Wengers EPL titles

As things stand, Zidane is shot himself into the elite band of active coaches and would be peers with Mourinho Pep etc.

please dayo answer the question in my last paragraph, leave Wenger alone.

at least it has been established that your Rooney example is way off in terms of managers.

sleekdot:
Change to what? why should I change? Change from the path of logic to what?

you are not just being logical, it's either you are. deliberately twisting facts as usual or just being ridiculous. my issue with you is you are very knowledgeable about issues, but you most times overflog the facts out of shape.

sleekdot:
if its based on lifetime achievement and who is more successful, why are you not listing Rooney in the team? I doubt any current active PL player is more succesful or has won as much as him.

The reason is that current achievements take precedents over what you achieved ages ago.

Wenger has also won 3 league titles so he should be the best coach in the league since no one has won more than 3 titles

Mourinho has won 3 also. for the bolded.

you see why I said I don't want to debate with you. Players and managers are not the same. Players use energy and strength mostly, managers use their experience and intuition. You can't bet against SAF coming out from retirement to win a league title just like Jupp heynckes returned after 5 years of initial retirement. But Ronaldo delima or Andy Cole cannot make Bristol city bench if they return now. the Rooneys example is way off.

My question again, Will you after the 2012 season make Mancini or Di matteo the manager while SAF is the assistant? or after last season, you make Zidane the manager, while pep or mourinho or even Ancelloti the assistant. Please be Frank.

sleekdot:
What is out of place about it?

I don't know where to start, and moreover I no get time now for long argument

sleekdot:
How is the reserve coach more succesful? No be the same league dem dey now and we can see the gap between them. This season Sterling has been better than Sanchez or Mahrez

Mendy has barely played 5 games this season. On form Bailly shouldnt even be getting a mention.

It's obvious you have not changed. go away please

patrickmuf:
I am only considering how well both have fared this season.
Of course, Mou is more successful over their respective careers.

if that's so you can as well make Poch the manager while Wenger becomes his assistant. or if it was in 2012 make Mancini or diMateo the manager while SAF his assistant, or after Mourinho won back to back EPL in 2006, you make him the head and SAF his assistant, based on that seasons performance. The fiasco is real.

Lime I said earlier nobody talked about the managers, Dayo has returned with his Mischief.

patrickmuf:
Erikson through the middle and willian on the right wing.

North, I'd replace Otamendi with Bailly and Sterling with Sanchez and swap his position with Salah.
Matic in and Pogba out.
For the coaches, Klopp has got nothing on Mourinho thus I'd have Mou as the assistant.

Assistant to who exactly? why are u joining dayo to insult mou like this? morever nobody even talked of the manager dayo just wanted to be mischievous. Mourinho is currently the most successful manager still in the game and everyone knows that.

Griffon:
You were doing pretty fine until you suggested Illoris take to the sticks ahead of Thibaut.

Calamity Illoris?

Do you live in Manchester bro? Are you an undercover agent?

Lol. coutouis has been conceding hilarious goals recently, although it's my personal opinion, I won't trust him between my goal. he is to me a mignolet who is few inch taller.

sleekdot:
Lukaku was suggesting an All star game

Someone posted this lineup

Any changes and who wins

I think North wins Replace Silva with Fernandinho. There should also be a a better LB than Robertson even if its in the lesser teams. North bench Sane, Silva Matic Lukaku Alexis. Coach Guardiola, Assistant coach Klopp. reserve coach Mourinho

https://scontent.fbed1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/28379695_1583740535073175_6848353922185480332_n.jpg?oh=c680c0d3d4feb6a4b0880ff59a075c53&oe=5B0AAA2E

Funny how your reserve coach is the most successful, for the northern side, Sterling ahead of Sanchez or Mahrez? really? move sallah to the right and Sanchez to left, or remove sterling and Mahrez as direct replacement. Mendy in for Robertson, Bailly in VVD out.that midfield needs a Fernandinho or Matic.

For the northern side, Eriksson replaces Ozil easily, while Willian takes the right position. Willian is better than both Ozil and Erikson in any of those positions. Lloris in place of Coutouis. Kevin Trippier for Azpi as good and solid as he might be, a natural RB.

sleekdot:
I dont like Beckham, I think he is the most overrated player ever just like Terry and I have shown already that KDB, Ozil Fabregas had better rates as we have seen they are attacking players, for those in midfield who pass to control the game whose passes dont reflect as assists. Like Scholes Lampard, Alonso. Also I saw how mediocre Beckham was in Madrid he was so poor and skilless that he was sent to midfield and as far back as Right full back. If not for his star pull he might have been chased away from there. The rest of his career he spent with part time footballers in LA Galaxy

Dayo this your post is totally out of place.

Roland17:
If we are speaking of the best passers in the history of the EPL, then consistency over a long period of time in the EPL is imperative. Consequently, I am ruling KDB out of my list. KDB is having a magnificent season passing the ball under Guardiola, however, this conversation is about "all time" folks who have done it over and over and over again in the EPL and not their entire career.

In no particular order, maybe with Paul Scholes being the exception.

Luka Modric

Paul Scholes

Xabi Alonso

Cesc Fabregas

Santi Carzola

Mesut Ozil

David Beckham

David Silva

where is Micheal Carrick and Steven Gerrard?

Assassin101:
Dino & Roach-ass will make a great team at the senate

And you think Dino will return? I doubt

Roland17:
He is trying so hard to sell himself but no one is buying his nonsense. I just hope Wenger does not stoop to Neville's despicable level of football knowledge with any acknowledgement or response.

His coaching stint with Valencia was shameful to put kindly for someone with the size of his mouth. His Valencia side conceded 38 goals in 28 game, lost 11 of his 28 games, went 9 games (all loses) before he got his first win, left with the lowest winning percentage in the history of the club and the worst coaching record in the entire LaLiga, sunk Valencia into the relegation zone (17th) above the others only on goal difference.

Who is Neville? I detest when former players think their experience have made them all knowing, when in fact most of them were average during their playing days, except a selected few.

yes when he criticise mou or pogba or even our team in general, he is a genius analyst. but when he does same to another team which you like , you start recalling his bad coaching record.

eph12:
Your club was officially labeled a small club yesterday. What are your thoughts sir? Is Conte the cause?

Atheist5 trying to know who to blame, whether na conte or Miss first touch.

atheist5:
what do you guys think of morata disallowed goals?,as far I am concern though,Chelsea will be playing Europa league next season and conte is a stupid man

goal[b]S[/b] how many of them?

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Oasis007:



I don wake, make I go brush first.........!


#Day2

Chelsea fans looking at you now like

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Chelsea players arriving Cobham training ground tomorrow

lol

0gbeniLeyqute:
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This is the baddest of all.

neezar:
Almost all ur former players av scored u guys

De bruyne

salah

now lukaku

Long may ur woes continue

Ake nko?

eph12:
Capitalcee do you still believe the team is very bad and not good enough to mesmerize smaller teams like Newcastle, Chelsea etc?

lol. there are some good players. but we still need to find a top defender to partner Bailly. and offload Valencia and Young.