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Christianity EtcRe: Roman Catholic Is Not A Church, But A Modernised Way Of Idolatry? by carmelily: 9:10am On Oct 09, 2008
@omenuko
What you posted are deeds of some of the people within the Church.  Their deeds cannot be misconstrued with the teachings of the Church.
You still miss the point. I don't question the fact that your articles of faith or what-have-you may be against the atrocities committed in the name of your church. My problem is: why can't there be a formal apology? Why aren't perpetrators punished? 1 in 10 priests in Boston alone has abused children. and NO SINGLE AMERICAN PRIEST has been punished by the Catholic church. It doesn't have to be written in a book for me to take it as your doctrine. Your top echelon condoning despicable behaviour is enough for me.

The Pope himself (Benedict) apologized to the victims when he visited the US this past summer (2008).  What are you talking about?  Do you want him to get on his knees and give every single victim an personal apology.  Ok, since you are much much holier than us, how should the Pope deliver his apology (which he has already done)?
The Pope was VERY careful NOT to apologise. Go and read the transcript of his message you are talking about. He said he "regrets" the actions of the priests. That's what we all do. We regret their disgusting actions.
When he said that thing about muslims, he said it was his personal opinion and not church views.  his "regrets" about priest pedophilia isn't an official RCC apology, my friend, just his personal opinion as a person. He was careful not to give an official apology. same goes for the holocaust and all that. Pope John Paul "regretted" RCC's involvement too. but no official apology. Go and read up.  In politics you NEVER apologise outrightly for sensitive issues. Why do you think there is no formal apology from the West about the transatlantic slavetrade? They may "regret" and "compensate" but never apologise. That's politics.



Also, it is obvious you do not know how punctuation works. Go back to my posts and observe my punctuation and with any luck, you'll realise how utterly out of place your replies to my posts were. And by the way, IN GOD'S NAME is a book. It all comes down to your difficulty with punctuation.
Christianity EtcRe: Roman Catholic Is Not A Church, But A Modernised Way Of Idolatry? by carmelily: 3:59pm On Oct 08, 2008
Chrisbenogor:
Lol you guys are at it again how I manage to miss all this things me I don't know for myself, maybe I am not praying hard enough smiley
Ok wetin happen why una dey beef my friends na.
No body holy pass, somebody has problem with bad priests na wa, them no be human being?
Ok what of all the senseless genocides done in the bible who complain?
When moses give isrealites grounded gold powder to drink no body complain, he asked the first set of priests in the bible got commissioned after murdering 3000 of their people?
Did the bible even condemn slavery ,no so why do you have a problem with world war 2. You do not need google to get examples of mass genocide just open to exodus and read down to joshua !
Er you may need to get shawarmasmiley
LMAO grin
My brother. Na all this kain itemised things wey u mention above dey make "organised" religion tire me. "organised" ke? I don't want to veer off topic, sha. would be too untidy. That's why i stuck to RCC. make Bible matter rest 1st. I just respond to what the (co)- defendants throw. wink
Christianity EtcRe: Roman Catholic Is Not A Church, But A Modernised Way Of Idolatry? by carmelily: 3:40pm On Oct 08, 2008
@Hnd-holder
This thread is not about PROTESTANTS! Read the title again. I didn't say Protestants are any different. In fact, the Protestants do have their own issues which i may want to discuss on such a thread as provided for that discussion. This is for RCC. stick to topic.

[quote author=Hnd-holder link=topic=74061.msg2912424#msg2912424 date=1223472109]Yes we are now talking.[/quote]When you say "we are now talking" what do u mean? you were the only one with his head in the sand.

By the way, the RCC history is full of instances where faithfuls are made to pay for absolution of their sins or the sins of dead relatives and other such humbug. I don't know if your "tithe" post was meant to show that Protestants are greedier or worse than Catholics?? what was the point of that post? huh
Christianity EtcRe: Roman Catholic Is Not A Church, But A Modernised Way Of Idolatry? by carmelily: 2:05pm On Oct 08, 2008
[quote author=Hnd-holder link=topic=74061.msg2911814#msg2911814 date=1223465955]pedophilic priests

How about non- priests in USA?[/quote]@Hnd-holder

I acknowledge your valiant efforts at defending your church. However, the point sane people are making is that the RCC should give official apologies for atrocities it (or members of its clergy) commits. That would  prove to people like me that the church is against those atrocities. Otherwise, we wisely note them down as RCC doctrine.

Pointing accusing fingers at "non-priest pedophiles" may make you feel better but it does not make the crime your priests are guilty of any less horrific.

If either males or females cannot for some reason obtain s[b]exual access to their opposite members[/b], they will find sexual outlets in other ways."'Man is a loving animal, and he is going to love whatever he is near.'
Who stops priests from marrying? you got that right! The RCC.

Catholic priest is still better than fraudsters in the name of the lord they still get involved with teenagers too.
Like i said earlier on this thread, na the same water carry all ah them go! unChrist-like is unChrist-like.
Christianity EtcRe: Roman Catholic Is Not A Church, But A Modernised Way Of Idolatry? by carmelily: 1:10pm On Oct 08, 2008
"The greatest genocide during World War II, in proportion to a nation's population, took place, not in Nazi Germany but in the Nazi-created puppet state of Croatia."

"Genocide in Satellite Croatia, 1941-1945"
Professor Edmond Paris,
Chicago, 1961, Introduction to the book.

"Nonpartisan sources agree that mass genocide was authorized by the state of Croatia. They concur that the state instigated, planned, and executed massacres against the Serbian Orthodox minority,  and that the Catholic clergy approved, led, or failed to denounce these massacres."

"Accounting for Genocide"
Professor Helen Fein,
The Free Press, New York 1979, page 102.

"THE VATICAN'S HOLOCAUST is not a misnomer, an accusation, and even less a speculation. It is an historical fact. Rabid nationalism and religious dogmatism were its two main ingredients. During the existence of Croatia as an independent Catholic State, over 700,000 men, women and children perished. Many were executed, tortured, died of starvation, buried alive, or were burned to death. Hundreds were forced to become Catholic. Catholic padres ran concentration camps; Catholic priests were officers of the military corps which committed such atrocities."

"The Vatican's Holocaust"
Baron Avro Manhattan,
Ozark Books, Springfield MO, 1986
Preface to the American Editions
http://www.google.com.gh/search?rlz=1C1GGLS_enGH291&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=html
Compelling Jews to wear yellow badges came from an invention of the Catholic Church. The Fourth Lateran Council of 1215 set up the Inquisition along with enforcement of Jews wearing a yellow spot on their clothes and a horned cap (pileum cornutum) to mark them as the murderers of Christ and to remind them of their descent from the devil. During the Black Death plague which ravaged Europe in the 14th century, the Catholic clergy aimed its blame at the Jews claiming they worked for the Devil and had poisoned the wells and springs. Their extermination compares with the pogroms that took place in the 20th century under Hitler. During the Spanish Inquisition, the Catholic Church directed its actions against the baptized Jews, the marranos. They forbade them to hold any office in the Church or the state; many suffered torture or death.

Popes have traditionally supported anti-Jewish acts and beliefs. Pope Paul IV in the sixteenth century established the Roman ghetto (another Catholic invention). For more than two centuries afterward, Catholics humiliated the Roman Jews and degraded them at the annual carnival. In the same century, Pope Gregory XIII instituted enforced Christian sermons insulting Judaism. [Cornwell, p. 299]. In a Papal custom Popes performed an anti-Jewish ceremony on their way to the basilica of St. John Lateran. Here the Pontiff would receive a copy of the Pentateuch from the hand of Rome's rabbi. The Pope then returned the text upside down with twenty pieces of gold, proclaiming that, while he respected the Law of Moses, he disapproved of the hard hearts of the Jewish race. [Cornwell, p. 27]
http://www.nobeliefs.com/ChurchesWWII.htm
Christianity EtcRe: Roman Catholic Is Not A Church, But A Modernised Way Of Idolatry? by carmelily: 12:33pm On Oct 08, 2008
[quote author=Hnd-holder link=topic=74061.msg2911723#msg2911723 date=1223465030]By their fruit we shall know them.[/quote]The pedophilic priests are good fruits!

Please leave carmelily alone to her opinion she is bitter with the catholics, who knows may be she was dating "them" I mean the missed road priests of USA.
Nah, i was overaged for them cry They said i would have made a good date if i was under 10.

Psychologically somebody needs a Doctor here
Now you get my point! when is your appointment with the doc?
Christianity EtcRe: Roman Catholic Is Not A Church, But A Modernised Way Of Idolatry? by carmelily: 12:02pm On Oct 08, 2008
[quote author=Hnd-holder link=topic=74061.msg2911192#msg2911192 date=1223458210]Why are you just blaming Moses for making a bronze snake in the wilderness to safe the Israelites. It is too late to blame David for dancing before the ark of the lord. You know nothing about the Bible can't you just close your eyes in shame?[/quote]Ignorance is bliss, my brother. Ride on! grin
Christianity EtcRe: Roman Catholic Is Not A Church, But A Modernised Way Of Idolatry? by carmelily: 11:22am On Oct 08, 2008
[quote author=~Lady~ link=topic=74061.msg2908735#msg2908735 date=1223408844]Wrong!!!

Seriously ma'am, why don't you appraoch things with love. You know since you are not Catholic, and according to you and several others, Catholics are not Christian, which would then make you all Christians, why don't you actually practice Christianity?[/quote]Seriously ma'am, how come you know what i practise? "His Eminence" told u that via a trance? u presume to tell me what to practise?but i'm not telling you NOT to be a catholic.  FYI, i don't ascribe a label to myself. Thank you.


Did Jesus say that we should approach people with hatred or cynicsm? No he did not.
If you don't understand, then ask, and when questions are asked of you, then please respond.
what don't i understand?

I am stil waiting for non-Catholics [/b]who know the Bible to actually answer one question about the Bible and about GOD. Nope [b]they run and hide.
what are u talking about? who runs and hides where?
Have you read IN GOD'S NAME. Is the author catholic?

It really is sickening, if you can't be mature about discussins then simply don't respond.
If you cannot help but be hypocritical then please don't respond.
If you cannot defend your own beliefs with logic and the Bible, then please don't respond.
Hypocritical? what do u think u know about me? I have to believe in the Bible to respond to posts? when did NL make these rules, Ms. Moderator??

1) The earliest record of the Church being called Catholic was in 100 A.D.
You've solved the seeming mystery on this thread!The origin of the Catholic church. Bravo!
At least, it's settled that 100 AD means not from the Apostles.

2) Before you start speaking idolatry, why don't you first go learn what idolatry means, then you will see that it is not found anywhere in the Catholic Church.
Ever been to Rome?

3) Show me the pedophilic doctrine
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1001926,00.html
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,980660,00.html
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,978816,00.html

To mention a few. and by the way,  there's still no official apology. The Pope just "regrets" that it happened. well, so do we all!


4) Show me the wars and racism.
PUHLEEZ! Do not display your ignorance. You do not know the role of the Vatican in WWII and The Holocausthuh Don't play ignorant here. Go to google and type vatican role in WWII and the holocaust. Get some popcorn cheesy.

Incase you don't know the Catholic church was the Church that fought against racism and slavery. If you don't know well now you know
LOL

5) Show me the politics in Catholicism
Do you even realise that the Vatican is a political entity? Do you know your own church?? Did you follow the election of Pope Benedict?

6) ANd Christ said there are those who are unable to marry because they were born so, those unable to marry because they were made so by man, those who choose to be unmarried for the sake of the Kingdom of heaven, let those who understand do so.
So please simply state that you do not understand Jesus, thank you.
What do you mean?

Paul himself was unmarried. The apostles moved around too much to be at home with their families, well for those who were married. They remained celibate until their death. Unless you would say that they didn't travel to spread the gospel.
Lo, Peter "The 1st Pope" according to RCC, was happily married. How do I know? He had a mother-in-law whom Christ healed of an ailment!

Look if you don't know anything about the Church, then kindly keep your comments to yourself. If you are sincere and want to learn then do so. You don't have to agree but you have to respect.
If it is burning your body that we have it together and we are not answerable to any man, sorry but that's your own palava.
The sorry state of "organised" religion can never the heck be my palaver. Can't you see that you are the one on the defensive? I'm having fun and don't give a phock. obviously.

Remember Jesus was persecuted as the Church is persecuted for spreading the gospel, the Church will always be persecuted and much more than He was.
Jesus was criticised for doing the right thing by detractors. It's disrespectful to allude to Him when you talk about your  establishment.

SO hate it or love it, we have been here for 2000 years and we will continue to be here. There is a reason why the Church has not fallen, did you ever ask yourself that?
Satanism has been around for donkey years. Ever asked yourself why Satanism hasn't fallen? Or many other "churches" for that matter.

Anyway, peace. I would love to have a convo with you, but only after you come correct and with respect.
Shalom, sister. Respect given.
EducationRe: World Top 500 University Ranking - 2008 by carmelily: 10:17am On Oct 08, 2008
Angelheart:
Oh really??Now I see why you are this stupid!
meaning? keep ur idiotic opinions to yourself, dumbo! I'm a UI grad and if i say it's trashy it's my opinion.


bawomolo:
jeez you sure have a lot of negativity brewing in you.
help me tell the cow.
Nairaland GeneralRe: Moderator Wanted In Politics Section by carmelily: 10:11am On Oct 08, 2008
Big B1:
You know what? You're so plucky.
I think I'm starting to like you; and this may be a very good thing.

What do you say?
politician! no probs cheesy
Christianity EtcRe: Roman Catholic Is Not A Church, But A Modernised Way Of Idolatry? by carmelily: 2:33pm On Oct 07, 2008
[quote author=Hnd-holder link=topic=74061.msg2906559#msg2906559 date=1223386189]Better than a pent rascally one man church of the pretenders[/quote]all one and the same. Any deviation from Christ-likeness goes in the same boat, dude!
Christianity EtcRe: Roman Catholic Is Not A Church, But A Modernised Way Of Idolatry? by carmelily: 2:13pm On Oct 07, 2008
[quote author=Hnd-holder link=topic=74061.msg1930624#msg1930624 date=1202410158]Catholic the first church[/quote]Yes. I agree 100%

The first church to:

1. emerge after the early church
2. make idolatory a christian practice
3. make pedophilia a church doctrine
4. support wars and racism
5. be largely political
6. practise celibacy for "priests"

The church is FIRST alright!
Nairaland GeneralRe: Moderator Wanted In Politics Section by carmelily: 1:54pm On Oct 07, 2008
@BigB1

You obviously totally missed the humour in my last post, Mr. Touchy. Now, to the "bitter and salty" comments. What are you on about? What's the worst that could happen if i "push my luck"? you'll cyberslap mehuh
AutosRe: A Sad And Terrible Experience With Inspiredmen by carmelily: 12:27pm On Oct 07, 2008
There's SUSPICIOUS written all over this thread! cool
RomanceRe: Im In Love With My Step- Brother: What Should I Do? by carmelily: 11:15am On Oct 07, 2008
what's wrong's wrong. unfortunate in this case, but wrong nevertheless. would you have a romantic relationship with an adopted brother? afterall, the DNA's different. Just wait till u meet Mr. Right and then you'll wonder why you were so smitten wit ur step-bro cheesy
RomanceRe: Some Of The Real Reasons Why Men Leave by carmelily: 10:59am On Oct 07, 2008
toksdam:
@ poster lets have the solutions
I thought it was obvious enough that the poster culled the article from somewhere. Those are not the poster's words!!!
Christianity EtcRe: How To Become A Super Rich Holy Businessman by carmelily: 10:13am On Oct 07, 2008
nwakaibe:
If some of them start granting press conferences, it would be tagged a show off.
And flying around in private jets and Hugo Boss suits with fried hair didn't make us think they were show-offs already?
EducationRe: World Top 500 University Ranking - 2008 by carmelily: 10:06am On Oct 07, 2008
darefestus:
Nigeria has never had good universities
The likes of OAU,UI and ABU are all living in past glories
Thats not to say that it cannot get better
But something as to be done real quick!
How can you say "never" and then say "past glory"?
In any case, once upon a time, those three unis were very good (i'm a graduate of 2 of them). At the moment UI is big-time trashy.
Nairaland GeneralRe: Moderator Wanted In Politics Section by carmelily: 10:00am On Oct 07, 2008
Big B1:
No need to beef, sorry about that!
You know why i'm beefing you. Don't call it "that"! angry
Foreign AffairsRe: Usa Economy Is Falling by carmelily: 9:59am On Oct 07, 2008
Digiman:
New World Order ?, What new World order, it's been around for a while:
[b]New[/b]spapers have been around for a while too. There's such a thing as fixed expressions Besides, the New World Order dictates what the next world thingy should be. Never gets old/stale. Read up.


blackspade:
Is this your catchphrase or something? I mean seriously, it seems like 80% of your responses consist of "ROTFLMAO!!!" huh
I noticed too. But kobo's ok grin
FamilyRe: How Toothpaste Broke Marriage! by carmelily: 9:53am On Oct 07, 2008
This story is an old one that has been told over and over again. No one knows if it actually happened. The meat story too. Heard it a million times.

The moral of the story is people camouflage their feelings and unwittingly let go over minor issues. The problems in these hypothetical (?) situations weren't meat or toothpaste. There were more deep-rooted issues unresolved hitherto. By the way, didn't the meat man ever have a meal with his wife before they were married?

honeywood:
marriage is not for boys but for matured men and women who can tolerate themselves.
who can tolerate themselves? i think what you mean is each other
PoliticsRe: Happy 48th Birthday To My Country, Nigeria by carmelily: 9:25am On Oct 07, 2008
bintab:
@camelily&sholeyb,thanks guys you made my day.
@bintab
kiss

@princekovo
please do modify your post. it's mashed up with shyman's.
FamilyRe: Babashola Rhodes by carmelily: 3:21pm On Oct 06, 2008
kokoye:
there are confirmed reports that the man likes other men!
For realhuh?

Anyway, i think kdankwah is looking for a much younger person, his sister's friend. May be a different guy.
FamilyRe: Man With 86 Wives Disappears by carmelily: 3:19pm On Oct 06, 2008
lipuka:
True, nowhere. But then how many of our vain, arrogants, spoilt brats we call girls will agree to be co-wives?
The point is there's such a thing as freedom of choice. You can't call anyone names just because they choose not to be "co-wives". You make it sound like "co-wifehood" is a universal law "our girls" go against.
Foreign AffairsRe: Usa Economy Is Falling by carmelily: 3:15pm On Oct 06, 2008
plz don't try to misunderstood me what am trying to say is that We nigerian should be greatful to God we are now on the progress line to succeed and beside that am not talking only on the Bank but the entire crises happening including the mortage and employment, If you are not happy about Nigeria that means you are a bastard maybe u belong to the Niger republic Not Federal Republic of Nigeria, despite the fact that there is notin people are still coming from notin to sumtin why don't u stop criticizing the government and think of a way to achieve your success by yourself, take YAHOO boys for example.
is this poster for real? huh

Back to topic, i'm with the New World Order conspiracy theorists. Only makes sense. The worst of the crunch rhymes with the '08 elections too. What a coincidence cool cool
Nairaland GeneralRe: Moderator Wanted In Politics Section by carmelily: 3:07pm On Oct 06, 2008
Big B1:
My 4th assignment will be to introduce the selection of Most Valuable Contributor, every 6 months.
This elected MVC will also win a gift for his or her wisdom and dedication.

The gift will be any one of these 5 items:
1. A Rolex watch
2. A 5day trip to United States Virgin Island
3. A plane ticket to Nigeria
4. An Apple labtop
5. A plane ticket to Mecca.

I think this implementation would encourage Nairaland members to be more serious and sensible at the same time.
Nairaland makes money every minute; this implementation is another way to share part of this income with the members.
Give and Take: an incredible strategy to keep business alive and more profitable for many years (a lesson from one of the greatest businessmen Nigeria has ever produced).

Nairaland needs an entity that knows 1 or 2 things about business and not just an ordinary bubble-head moderator.

I've posted my proposal on page 1; I look forward to hearing when to start these duties.
@BigB1

what's a labtop? an apple drink? huh

P.S. i'm still beefing you angry angry angry
EducationRe: World Top 500 University Ranking - 2008 by carmelily: 3:03pm On Oct 06, 2008
jay bee:
On another note, everyone keeps bashing naij on it's inability to produce uni's that is among the elite, how come naij students consistently rank among the best students in this uni's?
No one said Nigeria doesn't have good brains. we are saying Nigeria doesn't have good universities.
Christianity EtcRe: How To Become A Super Rich Holy Businessman by carmelily: 2:28pm On Oct 06, 2008
He pioneered monetization of faith with virtually everything faith related becoming saleable from cleverly packaged messages in the form of mp3, video and audio cassettes, vcd and dvd etc. to paying partnership programmes not forgetting daily devotionals, books, requests for donations, seat bookings, even miracle crusades, the list is endless. Hardly anything faith related which comes out of his stables goes uncharged.
@paulipopo
This is SO TRUE of Christ Embassy. Everything comes at a price. You neglected to mention that his and his wife's pictures are splattered all over everything related to Christ embassy or Love(the)world. In Rhapsody of Realities, their pictures appear on every single page.  Their headquarters in Ikeja looks like a shrine to Chris, with life-sized picture banners and all. And all their "pastors" are clones of him. sometimes i think the "christ" in Christ Embassy is the full form of his name, Chris.  But are you sure they charge for seat bookings?? is the commercialization so absolute?

Also, like kunleOshob has asked, how can we verify the credibility of their net worth like you've estimated?
PoliticsRe: Happy 48th Birthday To My Country, Nigeria by carmelily: 1:56pm On Oct 06, 2008
@sholeyb

i didn't even imply that people outside are doing better. my deduction about your being outside the country was as a result of your seeming ignorance on issues. i'm not saying there's no sense in what you're suggesting, rather i think the idea is oversimplistic and patronising. granted, people should be willing to contribute something, anything towards developing the country. but exactly how many of that 30% have enough to spare? The 70% are the worst hit but not the only helpless ones. Part of that 30% can barely get by!


Sholeyb:
By the way I hour walk is not a big deal to me, it is good exercise. But I get the part that it is because of lack of finances. You have to learn to think positively, if your friends for instance thinks 'thank God that I still have legs to walk and I can exercise and keep in shape, she will start to feel less upset about the whole situation'.
i hate to hear this thank-God-i'm-the-pinky-finger mantra. is there anything wrong with Nigerians living a decent life? why are we so complacent as a people? it's this "thank God i still have legs" mentality that's made us accept so much crap from the ruling class. it's an inborn Nigerian trait! complacency! Anyway, i'll just say you were ribbing me and did get the point about finances. and by the way, my friend's a "he".

I still believe in Nigeria and i do think things are looking up but please let's be more focused in stamping out corruption and enthroning visionary governance. Those are our only 2 ways out, everything else will fall into place. in my opinion, pooling personal and communal resources is a good thing but mere tokenism.



Anyway, thanks for being civil. i like you already smiley
RomanceRe: My Boyfriend Relies On Me For His Financial Needs by carmelily: 9:32am On Oct 06, 2008
i'm beginning to think SEUN is the guy in question and he really wants to sample opinions grin
FamilyRe: Bad Habits Of Your Spouse That You Can't Stand? by carmelily: 9:22am On Oct 06, 2008
jennykadri:
i wish u well in ur relationship
and i wish u well in ur relationshipS!
RomanceRe: Dating a White Lady (or Man) by carmelily: 9:14am On Oct 06, 2008
Leilah:
I am married now and I would date anyone as long as they were a nice person.
huh?
white guys were, they woudl do absolutely ANYTHING for you
my point exactly! that's the quality that makes them so attractive! cheesy lol

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