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OAUTemitayo:
You need to search your conscience.
You are making allegations that cannot be substantiated. UNILORIN were the one you should even praising.
You and your colleague from ABU delayed your debate for good 5 hours. You were supposed to start by 12pm but the delay was from your end and yet you want the judges to stay online because of you?
Same judges that took their time to come back you are castigating.
Haa. What a shame
I don't think you have conscience.

couldn't they have been recalled prior to the kick off?
Or the debate postponed because of their absence ?

How come Luxanne was present then?

Fynestboi:
This is a typical example of Argumentun ad Ignoratium.


From where did you draw your conclusion?

I can bet one of my kidneys they weren't around.

The judges you listed were different from the ones that were initially assigned for the debate

And they were not visible among those viewing the debate before it got to front page; I kept Checking

Only HerexG was present

How can a judge not even be available during a debate? Is that even allowed? They only followed it after it was over
I sincerely don't wanna drag this issue

Fynestboi:
@Catalyst4real thank you for spewing your mind, the judge that was available to question you, scored UNILORIN 22 and ABU ZARIA 20, the other two judges that were not available at the time of the questioning keenly followed the debate, just that they choosed not to ask questions, and it is never stated any where compulsorily for Judges to ask questions.

From the judge that was available it was Abu Zaria 22 Unilorin 20

OAUTemitayo:
If you have the ability to mind your own business you won't have dabbled into an OAU issue because the person you are supporting was accusing OAU of defeating his school through dubious means which deep inside you you know it is not true.
As for the 'foolishness and myopic nuisance' part, I won't trade insults with you. I am way above that gutter level.
Learn to mind your own business before accusing others of not.

It's a shame

When I was busy using my experience to dissuade him from embarking on this path he has chosen

With your twisted mindset and intertwined comprehension you came in and called me a "Loser"

it's really a shame

OAUTemitayo:
Are you saying you are better than all those you defeated since group stage?
You defeated some people, they did not complain and accepted defeat.
This is ridiculous.
People like you are bad losers. very bad ones

First of all, learn to mind your business

Do I look like i haven't yielded to defeat, If I didn't I would have started an uproar from that very day.
Why are you so given to foolishness and myopic nuisance?
You should learn to be mindful of your words when addressing people, even if it isn't because of your inexistent self decency, at least do it for the name of the school you carry around in your username.

Danyel09 you're fighting a futile battle

I could have complained too but I held my peace.
Sometimes I think the number of "likes" impairs the judgement of the judges.

During my debate, my opponent was getting cheap likes from his colleagues In background.

Two of the judges were neither present during the debate nor active.
They only came at the end of everything to award marks. (The number of likes still impairing their judgement)

I was so sure I killed it, so many of my insightful questions from the rebuttals weren't even answered by my opponent.

When am faced with failure, I always see it as my incompetence, as it open ways to improvement.

So this fair hearing you're looking for is more of chasing the wind. some fate, you accept.

Fynestboi who were the two other judges? coz HerexG was the only one present, as I noticed.

Fynestboi:
THIRD PLACE MATCH

BRONZE AWAIT THE WINNER.


LASU VS ABU ZARIA




Catalystic4real
Abuklaw
Timidelaw
DEJMAN
Holarpelumi

Officially hanging my boot

I can't give better than what I gave today, my replacement will be announced in due time

Can't stop laughing, All is well.

barnabas91:
dont tell me you are scared to be pushed harder
you are already accepting defeat

Accept defeat?
My psychological reaction towards the result won't add a single mark to whichever team you support

Just wait for the result bro

barnabas91:
scores might have been sent but not announced yet
every word you've said can be further revisited
let justice be done
waiting for Sir Fynestboi to announce the score

This really got me laughing

So because the scores can be revisited, we should continue with the rebuttals all night?

You seem to be really worried about the results

The experience alone is fulfilling, winning is just the reward

graciousolo:
You contradict yourself here sir.

. oya point out the contradiction

These guys sef

Neyoor:
Who taught them how to realise themselves? Their personal instinct. They are the architect of their fortune, either good or bad and it all boils down to self-development.

Oga rebuttals are over abeg


#sips soft drink from a corner

Neyoor:
Thank God! So you've finally admit that quintessential is beyond academic excellence and what else is the bonus if not self-development.

Why the sarcasm when Scores have already been sent?

I admit to what? this is hilarious

Please and try and read people's essay, properly
but let me quote a part of my essay for you.

Is formal education the only thing acquirable in an institution?

A typical Nigerian university is an oasis filled with life lessons, a garnished combination of sweet and sour, a panopticon of challenges, an epitaph of knowledge and a platform for the true test of morals.

You learn to survive amidst hardship and insurmountable stress, spontaneously learning how to manage finance and striving so hard to live cordially with people from different backgrounds.


The graduate acquires Life lessons, struggles and delirium unachievable in any phase of life.

The institution isn't just a paragon where people are rewarded for hard work, it is an avenue where lives are built, friends are discovered, character is tested and knowledge is imparted.

Abuklaw and Tourshaw, you guys should please be passive,
What is ahead is greater than what is bygone

Mordecai:
With all due respect Catalyst4real, you really did not answer my questions. I would appreciate it if you would. I would state them here again:

(1) Do they all pass the examinations? When they do, do they all get the same grades? Do they all assimilate whatever the institution has to offer in the same way? Do the graduates all turn out the same?

(2) If they do not, what factor makes the difference in what kind of graduates they become?

1) They don't all pass the examination, and neither do they do so with equal grades.

2) Factors:
(I) Some realised their roles and purpose and others didn't
(ii) The ones who excelled realised it and fulfilled it

You restrict your understanding of quintessential graduate to academic excellence, it goes beyond that.

luxanne:
A question for you Catalyst4real.
Your concluding statement should be posted afterwards.
Thank you.

Answered it already

To cap it up

Nigeria is a great nation, blessed, admonished and lifted.
And most times we expect too much from this developing country, as much as we want growth.

We shouldn't be swift to feign a blind eye to what our institutions are doing on a daily basis to ensure a sure future filled with competent graduates.

It has been an experience and irrespective of the results, I will forever cherish this platform

Mordecai:
Catalyst4real, you wrote and I quote:

All the graduate had to do was listen, learn and pass exams.

It doesn't go beyond that, The institution already has everything in place, and all the wards have to do to attain excellence is to learn and prove they have learned by passing the examinations.

Do they all pass the examinations? When they do, do they all get the same grades? Do they all assimilate whatever the institution has to offer in the same way? Do the graduates all turn out the same?

If they do not, what factor makes the difference in what kind of graduates they become?

neyoor didn't state that, I did.

As indicated in my essay, I tagged it as "Role of the Graduate"
A student who fails to evade with good grade is a student who hasn't fulfilled his primary role as a student.

Should a student be applauded, glorified and credited for fulfilling his role? And the institution vituperated and criticised for graduating such a student? How fair is that?

Abuklaw, it's too late

HerexG:
Most of us knows our educational system is presently not in the state we all can be proud of, so as an intellectual kindly make suggestion to our government and our educational heads that would take our educational system to that expected heights we all can be proud of as Nigerians

Thanks for the opportunity sir

For progress to be made there must be willingness, as the first propellant

For a country that's 55 year old, our educational system is just "okay" but it can be better.

Just as there are too many loopholes, so are there solutions.

Pertaining Admission

>Admission based on catchment area is silly and should be dropped, the less qualified are admitted, because they are favoured by region, while the more qualified candidates are sidelined.

Pertaining Educational goal

> Some students don't do well in school, not because they are not intelligent, but because they don't even know where they will work after graduating.

The zeal fades, The passion withers and the fuel burns out; There is no goal worth fighting for, due to the very issue of unemployment.

Facilities

Even when they are available they are either substandard or unevenly distributed

Education is a delicate part of every nation and should not be taken lightly.

The present administration has to make it a priority to dive into the educational system and gyrate it to apical heights, for that is where the future of Nigeria lies.

Neyoor:
You can't comprehend the responses or you are short of words. I stated clearly that before a graduate can be regarded as been quintessential. He must have made a lot of sacrifices that entails series of self development.


And as for the facilities, Even if all facilities are in place, without the zeal of the student for personal growth, there would be no impact. it'll be like the case of forcing a horse to the river and not being able to force the horse to drink.

Looks like am debating against two different people
The first part of your essay, you made it look like facilities are indispensable to the production of graduates.

And now you're saying the production of quintessential graduate is independent of facilities but willingness to develop one's self.

You debate lacks cohesion sir

Neyoor:
And I will also ask you is being graduate a prerequisite for success? Are you saying most efficacious individuals in the country all are graduates?

That is quite irrelevant and non-relative to the topic.
The focus here is on "Quintessential GRADUATES."
not Quintessential success

You will agree with me that you can only become a product of what is instilled or sowed in you

I handpicked this from your essay.

That means a quintessential graduate can only become a product of what is instilled in him.

Thanks for agreeing with me sir

Neyoor:
No matter how well equipped an institution may be, if there are no efforts for self development, a graduate will be no different from somebody who hasn't

And yet again, you contradict yourself further.

You just tagged Nigerian institutional system as underdeveloped and lacking in facilities being one of major reasons we are unable to produce quintessential graduates, even making reference to developed countries, how they excel because they have the facilities

And now you say no matter how well equipped an institution is it still depends on self development

The contradictions are too bold I can't help it any longer, please get your facts straight sir

The major reason why countries like Japan, China and U.S.A are experiencing technological breakthrough is because their schools are equipped with necessary facilities, which is giving rise to quintessential graduate. Ufot Ekong, recently emerged the best all round graduating student in Tokai University, Tokyo, when he got accessed to adequate facilities to aid his learning. Ufot made an electric car that goes as fast as 128 kilometres per hour

Neyoor:
I only said Quintessential is a perfect example of a class or thing but going by the veracious and observable definition of a quinessential graduate. It implies that a graduate is a quintessential product of his/her institution is an incomprehensive assertion and even almost laughable because there are countless graduates who are excessive efficacious not in the discipline they did in their undergraduate degrees but their inner and personal drives. Human beings everywhere, except for those with special needs especially mental related needs, are products of decision they make everyday but a quintessential graduate is someone who built himself beyond what is learnt in school.

You wistfully try to digress from my question, from your essay you used Seun as reference, for sidelining formal education and erecting this forum which we all adore.

How does that relate to your definition of "Quintessential graduate"?

Sir neyoor, I can't help but notice too many contradictions in your essay

You made it obvious Nigerian institutions cannot take the glory for producing quintessential graduates due to lack of facilities.

And, the graduate should take the glory for developing himself

my question is, how did the quintessential graduate develop himself, by producing facilities for himself?

Neyoor:
It has been observed, verified, justified and even defined by the different dictionaries that quintessential represents a typical example of the most perfect thing or class but in situation that incessant strike, impoverished facilities and lack of qualified facilitators amongst others persist in our educational institution. How do one become classic and stand out without series of self development?

Read my essay, I didn't deny the role of self development in the evolution of quintessential graduates, but it is very minimal compared to what the institution lays down.

neyoor, you defined a quintessential Graduate as the perfect example of a graduate, yet you make reference to people who abandoned school and dived into other aspects of life to succeed.

Quite contradictory, that I drop out of school and somehow excel, does that make me a quintessential graduate?

Name: Catalyst4real

Institution: A.B.U Zaria

Topic: "Quintessential Nigerian Graduate - A Product Of Self Development Or The Institution?"

Stance: The Institution


With Stellar ebullience, I recognise the presence of the unbiased judges, the ever propitious coordinator, my tenacious antagonists, the congenial audience and my honourable colleague, Abuklaw

Quintessential means a substance of the highest quality; And with prime relativity to the subject, A Quintessential graduate is a student who has 'fully' acquired the requirements of a degree.

A quintessential graduate isn't just a student with a certificate as evidence of graduation. But one who has been equipped to face life.

And I find it derisively obtuse to concede that the quintessential graduate is a sole product of self development, with the institution managing a subjective role in the making of the graduate.

I cannot comprehend the logic incurred in admitting to the fallacy that all the graduate had to do to attain apical excellence was "develop himself"
With the institution having no hand whatsoever?

On a more neutral horizon, Both the institution and the students play a role in producing assiduous graduates, but who plays the greater role?

>>>>>>Role of the Institution

Nigerian universities may not be the best in the world, they might be invincible in the list of first class universities.
But for a country in the Third World Region, Nigerian universities are undeniably sublime.

The Nigerian institution fecunds infrastructures, employs competent lecturers and professors, highly subsidized dormitories with all the social amenities in place and ultimately admits befitting students amidst the multitudinous applicants.

For years and years the wards are rigorously grooved, rejuvenated, refurnished, re-engineered, dusted and paramountly gyrated from ineptitude to proficience.

You really think the meagre school fees we pay, counterbalances the effort our universities makes to ensure we attain stellar heights?

You can't put a price tag to education, education is priceless.

Nigerians, we have been blessed with exuberant universities, but we don't recognize that; Because we are always comparing our universities with those of other countries who gained independence 400 years ago.

And it is this unequal comparisons that blinds us to the undying diligence put in by our universities In producing dexterous graduates


Most times we are beyond quick to ridicule our university system, always in a haste to tag our lecturers as "below standard"

But it is still one of our professors, Professor Opeyemi Enoch who won an award(1$ Million dollar prize) for solving a 156 year old mathematics headache, he singlehandedly solved a mathematical puzzle that has existed for over a century.

And not too long ago, "Nigerian doctors, products of our institutions were able to find the treatment for Ebola and ultimately exterminated it from Nigeria, professors from the much hyped Harvard and Oxford all came to be tutored by these culminant beacons of ours.

"A prophet is indeed not respected in his hometown"

>>>>>>>Role of the Graduate

All the graduate had to do was listen, learn and pass exams.

It doesn't go beyond that, The institution already has everything in place, and all the wards have to do to attain excellence is to learn and prove they have learned by passing the examinations.

What self development are we even talking about? Can self development actually make you a graduate?

It doesn't matter the level of self development attained, without the institution it is still useless.

Is the fisherman more honourable than the river? Or the farmer more honourable than the field from which he cultivates?

Reaching a congruence that self development is the propellant behind the yield of quintessential graduates against the diligence of the institution is like biting the hand that fed you.

Look up the list of top universities in Africa, and watch our institutions representing.

When we nag and complain about how the economy is filled with Half-baked graduates, the universities always take the blame and Is always at the receiving end of the vituperations.

And suddenly, on the emergence of quintessential graduates instead of attributing the glory and praise to the universities, self development gets the credits? How blunt!!!

Is formal education the only thing acquirable in an institution?

A typical Nigerian university is an oasis filled with life lessons, a garnished combination of sweet and sour, a panopticon of challenges, an epitaph of knowledge and a platform for the true test of morals.

You learn to survive amidst hardship and insurmountable stress, spontaneously learning how to manage finance and striving so hard to live cordially with people from different backgrounds.


The graduate acquires Life lessons, struggles and delirium unachievable in any phase of life.

The institution isn't just a paragon where people are rewarded for hard work, it is an avenue where lives are built, friends are discovered, character is tested and knowledge is imparted.

Do I even need to make more vivid what the institution does in making the graduate?

It will be ridiculously interesting to see anyone turn himself into a quintessential graduate by developing himself from his bedroom.

It is dismally lethargic, to believe the making of the quintessential graduate, is a homogeneous product of self development

That's an incongruous fallacy, The institution not only makes the quintessential graduate but defines him, and on this stance I remain adamantly obdurate.






Reference
The Education of a Lifetime(Book by Robert Khayat)

Top 100 universities in Africa
https://www.naij.com/56114.html

Nigerian Professor solves 156 year old mathematic problem
(www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/nigeria/12000314/The-Riemann-Hypothesis-solution-found-by-Dr-Opeyemi-Enoch.html)