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Nodogragra4me:


Problem with characters like yourself is that they are quick to use words for which they lack depth. Just throw in high fallutin words hoping that it makes an intimidating impression.

Now, what is doctrine?
Then what is Apostolic doctrine and do well to cite examples from the scripture.


As for your unlearned argument of jumping from scripture to scripture, I tell you that it is only one with lack of knowledge will question my submission of scriptures as proof that gods word is meant for multitude.


I expected a reasonable line of opposing views like a with scriptural backings.

Supply Scripture to back up your argument that what I started are flawed...that is how intelligent people disucus : You say sometime and I say because of so and so passages of the scripture, I do not agree with you...not chasing shadows lamenting my jumping from scripture to scripture


You claim to be a former winners but just know that there are winners and there winner.

You were just a fan but I am a participant, a disciple...and just so you know, your level and depth of knowledge is too shallow to get me thinking...

Oga “winner”,
Is there a need to attack those who disagree with you on this thread? Why do you have such a strong urge to defend your “winners” agenda above the overall interest of the kingdom? The people you are attacking are your siblings in Christ and it is ok to disagree with a sibling on principle but do so in love, I beseech you. Saying someone is too shallow is an affront and does not convey the temperance or love of Christ. Please measure your words and think ‘Kingdom’ when you choose your battles

Goshen360:
Winners chapel members always have the mindset of biggest this, biggest that; most beautiful this, most beautiful that; the best this, the best that as if we are in competition with each other. You guys are too mindful of elements and shadows which flow from your top Bishop as seen in the way he brags too. May God open y'all eyes to the understanding of important things in God

Long time no speak, sir! Trust you are well.

Thanks for hitting the nail on the head as always. There should be no competition in the Body....but like Bishop, like members.

OP, I like that you make yourself interesting by exposing your mind to rare adventure. Well done and Thanks for sharing your Lovely photos ��

Arielle:
I have always dismissed this guy and never actually listened to him. I must say I am impressed by his intelligence, passion and eloquence. He is brutally honest.

This interview changed my view about him too. The Biafra agitation is justifiable and I like his non-violent approach. He is also now pursuing an inclusive agenda so he just won a supporter in me.

I am a Yoruba man that has always believed in correcting the ills of the past, especially the unjust treatment of our Igbo friends across the Niger.
Kanu has further convinced me that the Biafra project is noble and pragmatic. This long interview held me spellbound. Great oratory skills!

OdefaGirl:


Should I?

I think so too. Start to ignore him For the following reasons:

- he is childish and thinks everything is about money and wealth. I suspect he is so money deprived that it dominates his mind and that makes him take every conversation in the direction of money with the aspiration that someday, he will live the lies he spews as current reality (for crying out loud, he says his father’s mansion has 6 BQs - we know he is only fantasising )
- he has created another ID and replies himself. Every discerning eye will spot his deception. The OP is a chronic liar and deceiver.
- I don’t know you but I know you are not at his level cerebrally. Just from reading your responses, I know you are reasonable and Intelligent so I like you. Resist the urge to trade words with him, hard as that may be.


You can see I haven’t quoted him directly even though this is his thread. I won’t be drawn into a debate with him because I just won’t dignify him with a response. He quotes me at his own peril!

But why would even hate anyone?

Anyway to your points,

- Jesus drank wine. Would you really think the Pharisees and Zacheaus specially brewed non-alcoholic wine for Him when he went to their homes? Like for real?

- the early church had communion with alcoholic wine. You cannot dispute that from 1 Cor 11 because these folks were getting drunk in Church and Paul had to curb their excesses

- Jesus said nothing that enters a man defiles the man. Nothing. Alcohol does not defile. Evil and wicked thoughts are the real problems of mankind

newsynews:


Look at this one. It's people like you I hate. You go about with false doctrine and boast as if that is exactly what the Bible teach. You are even subtly telling people to stay away from pastors. Now let's examine your claim.

Which great guys drank alcohol? Perhaps, you think the word wine means alcohol Everytime it is mentioned.

Jesus didn't drink wine, he was only falsely accused of being a drunkard. Let's see the passage clearly.

Luke 7:33-34 King James Version (KJV)
33 For John the Baptist came neither eating bread nor drinking wine; and ye say, He hath a devil.
34 The Son of man is come eating and drinking; and ye say, Behold a gluttonous man, and a winebibber, a friend of publicans and sinners!

John was only eating locust and wild honey, he didn't like normal food. For that, they said he had a devil. Did John have a devil? No. This means he was falsely accused.

Jesus loved normal food and drink etc eater, non-alcoholic wine, but those false accusers called him a glutton and a drunkard. According to you, because those people accused Jesus if drinking alcohol, then it means he use to drink it. Why not also believe it when they said he was a drunkard and a glutton?

He has a masters degree in Economics but can’t seem to secure a decent job. This guy is bitter, simple. He is also grieving his late brother but going about it the wrong way by spewing hatred.

Pity him, guys. His state of mind is poor

Aaronsrod:


Let them make noise.

The God of Apostle Suleman will kill all them with thunder and fire and send them to Hell!

It is well.

Rejoice!

Your God, not the God of the Bible who is compassionate in His ways. Don’t make it seem like He sends His creation to hell with glee.

May we not misrepresent a loving God to our generation. Amen

OP,

Let me add my 2 cents from personal experience because my son was like that at his age.

Is he verbal? Mine had minimal language at that age

- Please keep the smacks to the barest minimum and only as a last resort otherwise you will keep frustrating him.

- Let him go out a lot to burn his energy in outdoor activities. Those may actually wear him out for you, which is what you want.

- As most people have said, reduce sugar intake.

- I found out recently that fish oil is good for children like him. It has a soothing effect on the brain. I use the Artic Sea product from forever living for my son and we have seen noticeable progress.

All the best friend. Your son will take his world by storm. He just has a lot going on his mind and hyperactivity is his expression. He will calm down over time. My son is 7yrs now and is becoming a gentleman.

You haven't said the ages of your children. Could they possibly be keeping her busy after school?

Candid advice - be gentle and loving even if the hunger induces anger (understandably so). There is no harm in offering to help in the kitchen to speed things up even after you've had a tiring day at work. I know the generally accepted notion in an African society is that kitchen affair is the sole responsibility of the woman but you don't have to conform with that. Help her out and it'll create some bonding time too, even if it is a temporary corrective measure to have food ready in time. Or you switch roles. She can help kiddies with home work one day while you cook and give the family a dinner treat. You'll gradually and lovingly make her improve

PassingShot:
This guy will soon know how devastating the might of our military can be under the command of a very competent C-in-C, should he try any nonsense.

In his own fair world, we should have allowed Jonathan to continue to rule us unopposed or better still, not have any election despite his glaring incompetence to lead effectively and efficiently. Make we sha manage am anyhow e be

This stuupid man should tell us how it was possible for GEJ to ever become a president without the support of the North and SW that he's now castigating.

The oil you guys keep harping on belongs to Nigeria as a whole. The fact that it is found in your region is the reason you get lion share from the proceeds. Also, before oil, Nigeria was financed from the proceeds of other commodities found in the North and the SW. So save the crap and behave yourselves.

You captured it perfectly. Dokubo is only an attention-seeker and oftentimes speaks irrationally. When GEJ won Buhari overwhelmingly by a 10 million-vote margin 4 years ago, there was no regional "supremacy". Such a myopic fella. I expect Buhari to clip his wings for good.

@OP, this problem isn't isolated to Nigeria. It is a problem of the Negroid race. The average Blackman doesn't like the next Blackman and would rather sell him to the white man. Try speaking to an African outside Nigeria and see how much they detest Nigeria and Nigerians. These things ought not to be so but it is what it is. I'm not holding brief for Nigerians and our perceived arrogance but my point is that the problem is deeply rooted in our race, sadly so.

rasojie:
GOODLUCK IS A GONER...YOU HAD 4 YEARS TO PROVE YOU WERE D MAN.....
INSTEAD THEY KEPT TELLING US 'WE ARE ON TOP OF THE SITUATION'
HE SILENCED THOSE WHO SAID THE TRUTH
NOW HE WANTS TO DO THE OBAMA
KILL OSAMA SHEKAU
AND SOME SCUMBAG WILL COME HERE AND SCREAM 'GEJ' TILL.......
WHY D NEED FOR LAST DITCH EFFORTS?....WELL I HAVE ALREADY
DECIDED....GIVE ME GMB ELSE..................



BTW AM I THE ONLY ONES WHO SEE THOSE SUPPORTING JONATHAN AS WEIRD AND UNINTELLIGENT FOLKS?

No, you're not alone. When my friends support Jonathan, I wonder what has gone wrong with them because they often sound biased and irrational. I have nothing personal against the man - I just know his leadership doesn't inspire confidence.

Goshen360:


Good to hear from you brother. It's been a long time. I'm doing really good.

One of our greatest challenges is with the our brethren who had been wrongly taught but never questioned what they were taught. This is the problem with today's church. The word never told us to lord over the sheep of God and rccg leadership is doing the exact opposite to the words of the Master

Great to reconnect with you brother.

I agree. Something that intrigues me about church is that people can do nothing against the truth but for the truth. So let those who defend politiking continue to do so. The counsel of God - it shall stand.
Keep up the good work brother.

Goshen360:


Listen, I don't just argue without knowing what I'm saying. I'm too big for that. I know RCCG more than you can imagine. I used to be a member but no more.

The question is, If I, like Paul goes to a place to preach and my home church is in Jerusalem and I collect donation from where I am preaching to give to my home church, Jerusalem.

Does that = to that church where I'm preaching remitting their revenues to me or to Jerusalem?

You are right sir! Paul held the churches accountable to their doctrines, not their money. Preach Christ, he told them but he didn't set up a structure to control their money. Where that is practiced today, it is out of apostolic order.
Yes, Paul raised offerings for the Judean Christians due to a crisis situation they had and took the money back to Jerusalem from gentile churches but he didn't institute a scheme to collect funds from the churches. They gave to him as they purposed in their hearts. No compulsion, no 10% mandatory collection etc. Just freewill donations

CityNG:

Oh wait, I don't believe it. A post where you did not repeat my userid - gasp

Keep it coming, I'm here for you. Let it all out.

You waffle about with no clear cut direction, is this who you live your life?

A noticeable reduction in your number of words. It's either you're cupping up that 'less is more' or you have run out of steam. Which ever it is, I wish you the best man. No hard feelings. Just had to say as it is.

CityNG:

So when are you going to go all theological on me?

I'm waiting for that since it's your typical fall back position.

I like toying with you, you're so easily manipulated and controllable since you wear your emotions on your sleeve like an infant

I am actually now laughing...starting to see a side of you that is less aggressive yet confrontational. A better version, I dare say. Keep that up (not patronising - just saying)

CityNG:

The truth shall set you free.

But keep on researching though. Actually I find it rather interesting.

I'm looking forward to more tidbits that you will post about me. Keep it coming mate, I'm here for you

Thumbs up

PS: I've stop pretty much reading the stuff that you post. They are simply a rehash of what you already posted and you still don't use paragraphs.

I promised you a round of applause. Your first 'clean' post void of direct insults. I told you, you can do it! Well done.
Talking about truth, you just have to take my words for what they are. I did no research on you. Not yet. But I don't think it is necessary given the rate at which you volunteer unsolicited information on this thread.

CityNG:

Just as I thought.

Christopher Columbus writing will confuse most too.

I offer no apologies that I do not write at a kindergartner level.

The CityNG I already know from today's interactions would have been quick to say if he's seen more than 4 continents. That was a teaser and of course, you fell for it. Keep it coming. I am watching you and reading you like a book .... and the best part is - this is effortless. You make it easy because folly abound in many words.

CityNG:

1) Yep. Wuss An untravel heathen.

2) Like I said you harbor deep anti US sentiments. I can't help you with that. Try to see a professional, I believe they can treat these things in an outpatient facilities these days.

The funny thing is seeing how much time you've spent researching my posts on Nairaland. I love this, keep it coming and please do more research on little ol me

It is what I have been trying to tell you since but you either read too quickly or comprehension may be a challenge for you, sir. I didn't have to do any research on you at all. I haven't even looked at your profile neither have I read you on any other thread. You have a loose tongue so you loosely type and reveal your life on this thread unwittingly with no display of wisdom. I know so much about you already without making an effort because out of the abundance of the heart, you've been spilling the venomous content of your being. You are a hurting man and I should really pity you.

CityNG:

"A paragraph (from the Greek paragraphos, "to write beside" or "written beside" is a self-contained unit of a discourse in writing dealing with a particular point or idea. A paragraph consists of one or more sentences.[1][2] Though not required by the syntax of any language, paragraphs are usually an expected part of formal writing, used to organize longer prose."

Your gibberish is very hard to read. Please try to write your thesis properly if you want an answer from me.

1) It's an online forum, I have no allies. You must be very lonely and grasping for folks to like you. Get out there in the real world and experience life.

2) Thank you for that permission. I know Nazis like you live on that fake feeling

3) I have no "beef" with you dude. As stated previously you're actually a non entity and just an ordinary userid on Nairaland to me. You clarified nothing but continued to make an a$$ of your assumption. You're not educated on these things enough to offer an intelligent opinion.

4) Your message across shows me your upbringing too and the kind of a personal family life that exists around you. Frankly it seems pathetic and unfulfilled.

5) No need to assume, it's a fact. We can compare passports stamps when you're ready. I bet you'll worm your way out of that too.

6) I'm proud of Ijebu Ode jus as I am proud of many wonderful cities both in Ibadan and the world that I've lived in. You should be proud of your heritage too. I promise not to hold your hamlet against you because they are not responsible of the close minded nitwit that you've grown up to become.

7) It doesn't matter. Age is just another crutch you'r trying to use as you flail wildly about. Wether I am a young Man or not doesn't make your faulty position suddenly correct. Grown some balls and debate with intellect and stop fishing around on my posts for ammunition.

Another assumption, I type using the exact words that I meant to convey. You're just sore that I am not kowtowing to you. You're nothing and remain nothing to me.

9) It doesn't matter dude. I would have been called worse and I would certainly respond in kind back yo you.

Now crawl back under the bridge you cam rout of, you impertinent troll.

Talking specifically about travel, I have a humble travel experience and I haven't done as much as I'd like. I have only seen 4 of the 6 continents (I will spare you the number of countries and cities). Not a feat that matches yours, perhaps, but that is beside the point. Even if you have been to all 200+ countries of the globe, your travel experience is not reflected in your writing. Simple!

CityNG:

"A paragraph (from the Greek paragraphos, "to write beside" or "written beside" is a self-contained unit of a discourse in writing dealing with a particular point or idea. A paragraph consists of one or more sentences.[1][2] Though not required by the syntax of any language, paragraphs are usually an expected part of formal writing, used to organize longer prose."

Your gibberish is very hard to read. Please try to write your thesis properly if you want an answer from me.

1) It's an online forum, I have no allies. You must be very lonely and grasping for folks to like you. Get out there in the real world and experience life.

2) Thank you for that permission. I know Nazis like you live on that fake feeling

3) I have no "beef" with you dude. As stated previously you're actually a non entity and just an ordinary userid on Nairaland to me. You clarified nothing but continued to make an a$$ of your assumption. You're not educated on these things enough to offer an intelligent opinion.

4) Your message across shows me your upbringing too and the kind of a personal family life that exists around you. Frankly it seems pathetic and unfulfilled.

5) No need to assume, it's a fact. We can compare passports stamps when you're ready. I bet you'll worm your way out of that too.

6) I'm proud of Ijebu Ode jus as I am proud of many wonderful cities both in Ibadan and the world that I've lived in. You should be proud of your heritage too. I promise not to hold your hamlet against you because they are not responsible of the close minded nitwit that you've grown up to become.

7) It doesn't matter. Age is just another crutch you'r trying to use as you flail wildly about. Wether I am a young Man or not doesn't make your faulty position suddenly correct. Grown some balls and debate with intellect and stop fishing around on my posts for ammunition.

Another assumption, I type using the exact words that I meant to convey. You're just sore that I am not kowtowing to you. You're nothing and remain nothing to me.

9) It doesn't matter dude. I would have been called worse and I would certainly respond in kind back yo you.

Now crawl back under the bridge you cam rout of, you impertinent troll.

Compare passports with you? Never! That you would even suggest that shows how low you sink to prove a thoughtless needless point. I know people who haven't stepped outside Nigeria that are more articulate and argue more soundly than you do. With the way you write, I already wonder if you are the true owner of the passport you showed us. As I said earlier, you show no decency in your interactions and no reflection of the American spirit. You are a proven sore loser who aims to score cheap points yet can't seem to be tactful in your use of words. If you are truly in America, then you are not one of the Ambassadors Nigeria can be proud of, and you should be ashamed of that. I will personally applaud you if you can score another cheap point without one foul word of insult. Common, give it a try. You are up to the challenge. Refine yourself and argue without bitterness. You can do it.... I'm waiting.

You continue to amaze me. You have no clue who I may be but you are so sure you'd win a 'passport comparison' contest. Who reasons like that in this age? Only a person whose mind never grew beyond the 'local champion' thinking of the 80s. The world has evolved, man. If your biggest achievements are that you left Nigeria and now hold an American passport, then I can now understand the origin of your woes.

CityNG:

Legitimate or not, entry into a country is not automatic like you seem to think. Many legitimate people have been turned back. Boyfriends visiting Girlfriends for a birthday have been turned back for fear of getting married and staying (is that not a legitimate reason to visit?).

Like I told you before, you are not a seasoned traveller. Google is not a reflection of your personal and individual life experience.

You're simply wrong and out of your depths here.

In your eagerness to respond, you did not carefully read that it's your ally on this thread who mentioned Google (not me). You even turned against him and asked him to expand his knowledge. It is a shame that you'd do anything to fight dirty.

It's ok for you to conclude I am not a seasoned traveller. I have no point to prove in that regard. Your beef against me is that I set out to clarify why you had to obtain a "visa" to enter Spain. I have never met you and I don't know your background but your uncouth language says a lot about your upbringing and your outlook in life. For argument sake, let's assume you are a more seasoned traveller than I am, your brash style of addressing people who have differing opinions indicates to me that your mind is unexposed. You may have travelled the world but your mind never grew beyond the confines of Ijebu. With due respect, please grow up and act your age. If you left Nigeria in 1986, I imagine you are not a young man. In fact, you are far older than me yet you carelessly throw words around without weighing them. That is a shame, sir, but it is beneath me to call you names or spew hatred towards you.

aaidel:

any citizen can be turned back from any country guess you didn't hear the case of the man turned back from dubai and asked never to return again and some countries despite these agreements require pre approval before traveling which is basically same thing a visa is

You may want to read my comment again. I said the traveller must have a legitimate reason to be granted entry. That goes without saying.

CityNG:

Just as I thought, your angst is with Americans. This was never about America or celebration (only someone with deep anti US sentiments will harbor that), the issue was that a fellow traveller was denied entry solely because he was holding a Nigerian passport.

I will continue to thwart your idiotic attempts no matter how much you try to hide your thinly veiled angst

Good luck feeding that monkey on your back

You don't know who I am, where I live or my nationality yet you conclude I am anti-America. Should I really be debating with someone that cannot hold a reasonable healthy argument? My answer is NO. Rather than annoy me, this particular comment actually made me smile and shake my head in pity. Just when I think I have seen the worst of folly, someone out there pulls a surprise on me. Bring it on dude, spring more surprises in your rejoinders and continue to expose who you really are in this public discourse. We are watching.

CityNG:

Why are you getting your skirts all bunched up?

Sure bring it on and as you've audited I'll match you toe to toe you odd toed orang tang. It's one thing to challenge outright untruths but that wash;t what you did. You insinuated that I was lying. I don't surfer fools and I will call a spade a spade, no apologies if that makes you mad but I am not in charge of your emotional compass.

I have done nothing to mislead anyone.

Go find a lake and jump in it.

I see that you're bent on calling people names when they disagree with you. Can you not have a clean debate without names calling and insults? It says a lot about who you are....

CityNG:

Don't mind them ojare

The issue at hand wasn't if I had a visa or allowed entry (same thing), the issue was that I went into Madrid to eat but someone else with a Nigerian passport wasn't allowed to do that. And I only brought it up to show how far our national integrity has fallen.

I now fully understand that some Nairalanders are juvenile delinquents.

I don't know what planet you are dude but I don't know how you expect a Nigerian passport holder to be allowed entry into Spain without a EU visa, in this day and age. Yes, we lost our respect over the years but that's not news. I think you made your point that you have an American passport and you even showed us the evidence. That was the crux of your message even though you tried to conceal it by feigning ignorance. For the records, it is normal procedure that you were allowed into Spain as an American citizen without a visa.

aaidel:

allowed entry does not mean you are guaranteed entry and he could also have been refused entry subject on the recommendation of the immigration officer. so he is quite right to say he was granted a visa in to the country

It's the other way round. A visa doesn't guarantee you entry and it is the prerogative of the immigration to allow you into the country. He wasn't issued a visa. Except there are no legitimate reasons to be visiting, an American citizen cannot be turned away from a Spanish airport. That is normal procedure (based on agreements between both countries) and not a celebrated case like your friend makes it seem.

CityNG:

Nothing was clarified, it's all in your head so no thanks needed.

No piss off and go hump somebody else you ingrate.

I have seen your comments to others on this thread and it is interesting how quickly you pick up fights at the slightest provocation. I have said nothing to deserve your acerbic comments but I will consciously stay away from playing this in your turf. If you can't handle being challenged when you submit facts, then refrain from using the internet. Some of us will challenge what you spew, and within reason. So deal with it.

CityNG:

It's not my job to educate you.

PS: It's actually better. It wasn't a visa per see but I was simply allowed entry

PPS: You probably weren't born yet but we used to enter the UK without visas up until the 80s.

Ok, thanks for clarifying that you weren't issued a visa. As an American citizen, you are allowed entry into the EU for 90 days, so your earlier comment about "visa" caught my attention.

I'll ignore your other comments and say nothing about myself.

CityNG:

Oponu, some of your fellow countrymen has sullied your passport to be almost worthless in the international community.

Obviously you haven't travelled or exposed enough to understand this.

But again you apparently missed this part of my post in your idiotic rush to comment "Not excusing the well established horrendous customer service of Egypt Air just stating facts."

Ema je ki oriyin pe kie to ma te keyboard.

Edit: Last month I arrived in Spain with no visa. A guy I met on the plane and I had a 5 hour layover so we decided to go into Madrid for breakfast. He was immediately denied a visa (Nigerian passport) but I was granted one (USA passport) with no question asked other than advising me to be watchful of Madrid traffic so I'm not late for my flight.

This kid did nothing wrong, it's his elders before him that have screwed up our national integrity for him.

Please educate me. You were given a visa to enter Madrid on a US passport even though you were visiting for less than 5 hours?