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Ok, I get it!!!

I have been worndering y people would advocate trying the crimminals in Nigeria rather than
in the USA.
They are mixing hatred for the Americans for need for justice,

", sniff" ", sniff" ", sniff" I smell Islamic extremists here. An Al Quadae terrorist cell in your midst.

I really think the poster lacks accurate understanding of how God works and
what the intent of the message in the link he provided is. And as I have always
said, your message is just as misleading as the messages you are attempting to
discredit because the source and authority that backs up your argument is your mind.
However, even though not well put, i can see where the writers of Rhapsody of Realities
are coming from.

Even if the poster cannot read the bible, at least one would have expected you pose
questions to the authors of that website, and then let the world benefit from your reall
findings and not your personal opinion.

You have only done what any ordinary mind would have done: except for the creative packaging, you have just
fed everyone with more gossip.

There really is nothing anyone can do about Obama been the antichrist.
But there is somethng we all can do for ourselves, that is to pull our acts togehter. because this may just be
one final sign of the beginning of the last phases of the World's end. It is time to get a B.A. in life if you dont have.

But we all know that trying those guys here MAY not give us the desired results,
and what we all want is these guys to get the full measure of justice. I also dont think jurisdiction rights is lacking
because the crime had a US connection.

These guys have hurt our Nation so badly, we need to ensure they get what is coming to them
by allowing a party whose effectiveness and judgement seem impossible to be corrupted or influenced handle the trials.
This is not an unpatriotic act. I really hope they are tried in the US, Nigerians are one of the most patient people in the world.
This things have been stomached for too looooooooonnnnnnnnggg!

it is not like that. That someone believes anything about christianity or Pastors
is obviously not a threat to anyone's christian beliefs. So there is no reason for anyone to get personal.
I personaly, have a concern for pple reading these messages because from my understanding, they posses the potential
to hurt the reader, especialy where a church or pastor is being condemned unjustly. I believe there is a curse in that.

@ tinard,


[table][tr]However, I do have a question for you. Is this something you are considering employing yourself or have you recently been fired by your partner in crime that you therefore decided to reveal the secrets of an holy {business}[/tr][/table]

I merely recognised the value I placed on this particular question which happened to come from you.
Funny how you got that confused.
It was not an invitation for like minds or like abilities to congregate, offer of tutorship or an admission into my school of thought.
Which leaves me wondering at the rationale behind your posts to me.

Anyways, nice play of words though.

Camelily
That is a painful and sad situation. I really dont know what to say and my prayers go out
to that lady. But the truth is she did something wrong by doing what she did. God holds her
accountable but He is ready to forgive her. God can even change her situation right now.

But that is one case that you urself have not confirmed to be true. Have you called the poster
to offer your sincere care? At least that way we woudl all know its validity because any body can come up here to say
anything.

As for paul, you know quite alright he is making undounded talk because it is clear he hasnt conducted any
investigations only a pesonal observation. How can you stand on that? Now this story doent make all Pastors evil.
Just becos a few naijans 419ed someone, would u accept to be called a scammer?

See, judge honestly and wisely, but even if u dont want to, dont worry
Wisdom will be vindicated by her children.

No we are not waking up. We will keep dreaming while you
keep living. Pretty soon you will wake up to find out that you
were in the matrix all along.

Naomjt

Are you worrying? No need you are protected. By the insecurity of Paulipopo.

", if our leaders have a change of heart, "
Our leaders? How long will you guys call these old hags our leaders?
How long will we call them our leaders? This is the very veil that has prevented
us from doing what we ought to do, because we see them as our leaders and thus the only available
solution for this country, we actually resign to the thought of accepting and managing them as they are because we think we have
no other

I tell u , i know how these ol' school guys think. I have executed a few contracts with these government officials
before, their thinking is terrible. I wish i have to time to explain some of these occasions. It was just like when a move
was made in the house of reps to adopt the kind of digitized polling system practiced in developed Nations.
They all rose up against it for obvious reasons.

Please these guys are no more our leaders, the future is begun already and the true leaders had better get set. The Obasnjo generation which includes Yar Adua, Kingibe and all those guys is rounding up. If we keep quiet, they will put their own children and relatives while we watch complaining. We are all making Naija another Cuba and our presidency another Fidel Castro.

We shouldn't accept this bullshit one more day

kobojunkle

Naija is being ruled by the hopeless, visionless, nerveless, and other lesses.
That doesnt remove the possiblity of a better Nigeria. Naija simply has the wrong guys
in the wrong places. The right guys need to come forward. Let you and I, the pple with
vision rise and take a stand.

The bible says, "Evil will prevail, when good men do nothing". The logic is simple but i guess the attempt
may be didfficult. i have had it with letting the old, empty barrels rustle around. All they do is talk.

It is not hopeless for Naija, No matter how many pple think so. Even If 139 million of 140 million think there is no hope, as long
as there is one man with a different ideology, there is hope. After all Hitler was one man, all he did was spread his satanic ideologies.

the conclusion: we have left our beloved country in the hands of losers. I dare say if we forcefully seize the reins of power from them all, you would be surprised what woudl happen: you will see how weak they really are. None of them have even the slightest
motivation for this country to fight back. They are just there.

I am done talk "n"

Holy Mary? Holy Mary So there are still ignoramuses in this world.
Do you guys read your bible at all? Is all this Mary and Angel thing ", having
grazen images" aside from the Lord God Almighty?

Catholism is the devil's biggest fraud

Onyiye

which ones na? Can't Naija benefit from d experiences of other nations? just because USA took fifty years doesnt mean it is a spiritual law that cannot be broken. Was it not before oiur very eyes that they
began to develop Dubai? Do you know what Dubai is? Dubai was a desert and it is still a desert. but it is the most
beautiful couontry in the world and they are still buillding.

Alas what shall we say to these things, there will always be thomases when God stirs up some changes.
Bros Rhino, ride on man, undetered.

@ All

It is time you stopped giving Paul your attention. He has been giving you all assignments.
He sits in his room, puts up one line of controversy, and sits back on his chair, arms abreast watching
you all fire missiles.

Let him say all he wants. Pastor Chris and all the Men of God are moving up and forward, paulipopo is
where he is. At least they were able to achieve something with their so called evil intelligence. They are known
world wide, meanwhile, you the humble, nice, know it all, is nobody on the international scene. No body even
know you for naija.

I bet he is just trying to make cheap popularity and you guys are helping him achieve it.
Bone him, he cant achieve more than 3 or 4 followers, With time, he and his followers will get bored with one another.

Madam, no need for confusion.
Once you leave your father's house to be joined to your husband, you have left
the Catholic Church. Legally as the bible depicts it, you are more under your husband than your parents.
He is your husband which is said to translated "Lord" or "Master"

Make no mistakes about that. The choice is yours now.
Ultimately you are both christians, it is not like a christian and a mosllem are getting married. In nigerian here, we seem to
love to complicate simple life with traditions

[table]Make no mistake in interpreting my post as an attack on Chris Oyakhilome it is not, rather it is a true description of the man so many people adore but fail to realise the phoney acts he puts up. Christ embassy is all about Chris Oyakhilome and not jesus christ like he falsely claims and I would explain why shortly.[/table]

Paulipopo, Paulipopo, Paulipopo always stirring up controversies. Always attempting to spread your confusion infection.

[table]No man has the power to judge his fellow man but as christians we are required to test the spirits, instruct the ignorant about faith and warn other christians of the antics of preachers who disguise their love for worldly riches with aura of rel[/table]

Plsease, ITK,
When will you stop contradicting yourself,? When? You said Pastor Chris is a Phoney yet you say you are not posting an attack. You say no one has the power to judge and here you are doing that same thing. You must think nairalanders are dulmp. This looks like confusion. What is it with you and Pastors? Is that the problem in the country? There is somethin about you. You are definitelhy not a chriatian, I can bet my rent money on that. You are not a christian thus not near an authourity in any such christian arguments.

We will soon find out who you are. It is wither you are a failed journalist who it didnt work out for in the newspapers or a Jihadist

Exactly Rhino
You are the maannnnnnnnnnn!!!

I have been thinking about this since God's knows when.
That is the only way. We as young men need to develop a kind of Youth Movement for change.
A political organisation that will begin to rouse all the youth. I am telling you it can work O

I wtched a documentary that showed us how Isreal as a nation began. It began from  about 8 young men!!!. Between 20 to 28 yrs of age. They formed a cult and began to press while all their parents where afraid of all Israel's opposers. More and more of the youong men joined until a movement was formed and on the long run Israel was born

Now I can not saw that documentary is 100 percent factual. but i am sure it has some substance because the  producers and US and I know they wont broadcast formulated stories about Israel. Anyway, I will search out the documentary again and post it here

Any which way, even if we are ten guys, we can begin to do it. I believe

We cant continue to allow those old hags to destroy this country.
They are ruling with running things with their ol' school mentality, and their tired courage. They only think
of themselves and their families and how to bequit wealth for their posterity. And they have misguided the youth of this nation
by letting them run around as they choose. The mind of the youth is selfish: its either
they are down in one party, or working in a bank or going into music. Once the generation of Obj and his
guys end, Nigeria may be in for a tough time o. I have been singing this song to the ears of my guys at work
for so long.

To begin to change this country, we musgt begin to inspire the youth. And that is  some major project. Target the youth
and forget those old hags. Their time is up.

To change Nigeria. hhmmmmmmmmmmmmm
That is one huge effort o
where can we start? What is the first step to take?

This is the bestest post this year.
Thanks Rhino

[table]@ paulipopo

The second part of this module is a little disappointing as they are things I know already. But having reread what the module is all about, I understand why it is needed.

However, I do have a question for you. Is this something you are considering employing yourself or have you recently been fired by your partner in crime that you therefore decided to reveal the secrets of an holy {business}man[/table]

lol tinard
lolololololololololololololol

You did so much in just a few lines. Which school u go?

mean! mean! mean! mean! mean!

This is evil. What if the guy is dumb enough to attempt one of these remedie

@ KunleOshob

I no understand u o! Where did I make a criticism? Do you know what it is to criticize? I no know how i go xplain to u now.

[table]Enough of your shallow and baseless critcisms that are not only lacking in substance[/table]

Of cause I'd expect my posts to be pointless to you, because they are not for you. They are for those who can compare both sides of the argument, drawing facts from both sides and with inteligent analysizing arrive at a justifiable conclusion for ones self. No be san san, ok?!

[table]The fact that there are numerous charlatans claimig to be "men of god" is

very obvious even to the extremely foolish

[/table]
Ok it is obvious to you. Clap for ya sef!

[table]How do you know for a fact that the poster is not a prophet of God, sent by God to warn us of the antics [/table]
You dont need to try to know, you can know now by going straight into the scriptures, the Word of God. And by the way, the bible says, "By their fruits, ie. their proceeds, they shall be known"

[table]the antics of those stealing in his name?[/table]
Them com ya has con tif abi? You see them korokoro

[table]I believe the poster is doing a good christian job by exposing this people even though i warned him not to mention names, so it doesn't get heated up[/table]
"Go ye all into the world and expose peeps, " THAT MUST B WHAT JESUS MUST SAID READING FROM YOUR OWN BIBLE. Ask yourself by what authourity does he do this. If it were in countries like the US, he would have been sued for damages I am sure.

[table]so it doesn't get heated up and people like you try to derail the thread[/table]
Yeah right! True Nigerian. Always wanting to force their personal opinions on others. What is wrong with presenting other views so ppls can judge? So far I have consulted from an authourity which is the bible to press againt what i think is wrong. You and ur mentor have spoken ur minds freely. We are getting ur back on track not derailing u.


[[table]b] You have to note that he is not in any way trying to discredit the church or christians, he is only trying to expose the antics of those who are stealing in God's name[/b][/table]
What a bundle of contradiction. Anyway e be like say u and ur guy go com show us the real pastor and the real church. Since all this ones bad, wey the real ones. Make una bring am out.

[table]and encoouraging us to remain vigilant. There is no harm in this [/table]
Pls when u address christians (as i believe this Lecture is doing) pls read from the bible. How can u be so ignorant. The bible says "We wrestle not against flesh and blood but against prinipalitties and powers and rulers of the darkness of the world" But every time the carnal ma looks unto his brothe as his enemy. The only time Jesus told us to be vigialnte in the bible was as regards the end of time. He said Watch and pray. Not watch and EXPOSE!!! na wa o

@ Charlatan

I know you here to kid around, have fun sha

@ Sleekmag

U the man!!!


@ Khai Khai
Please enlighten me. Wetin be WTF?
Is it World Trade Center? or Fenter? or wetin e be? How is it helping our discussion? Pleae tell me it looks like a powerful leverage for my next post.

The promo is still on Date this guy for a week and you qualify for a raffle draw. Star prize, 1 peogeout convertible.

Hurry! promo last for only 2 weeks

@ poster

nna men, wetin be this now? ok i am gonna render you a hand here. We are going to run a promo for u now, because this is not right

@ All the pretty sisters

OYA DATE ONE GET ONE FREE!!!!
D O G O F!!!!

@ y all

You see this is the challenge with Naijans, They just dont encourage peeps

@ Ladies

Wetin now see wetin una dey look for since don come and na fine guy. Quick responses O

, but the difference of believing the truth or a lie has the power to save or to hurt.

[table][tr]
, To yet another group it will be an attention grabbing piece that achieves absolutely nothing on the positive side. But to me it is a true reflection of things I have observed among some men of god, the massive business empires they preside over, the attempts and strategy they have applied all these years to arrive at their present states. This write up is going to demonstrate the sad reality of opportunism, deception, greed and ambition combining forces to wreck havoc on the social fabric of the Nigerian Society. It will include an expose on the five biggest Holy Businessmen in Nigeria (David Oyedepo, Enoch Adeboye, Chris Oyakhilome, Temitope Joshua and Mathew Ashimolowo in that order) and the vast businesses they preside [/tr][/table]

@tinard
I get life now. and contrary to what you are saying, i dont work in a church and as i tried to imply i am not a Pastor so you dont think I am trying to defend my practice. I love knowlegde and facts and just cant help my hungry curiosity which has led me into so many thoughts of this life. Once, I even went into studying Islam just to understnd more about the religion, i used to think Islam was the way to God becos muslims seemed so pious. Anyways, i just said all that to show you that I am nnuetral. I may sound like a pastor, i feel so too, kinda like it though but it hurts me to see pple who have abilities using them to misled pple by IMPLY OR SUGGEST things that are really not factual; that is not proven. Pple can easily believe and accept this. The poster doesnt have proof of all he has said. Anybody can sit in his room, take a birds eye view assesment of events around him and begin to use his abilities to spread them, that is not fair on pple. For God sake they are not based on his personal effort to validate

It is like somebody coming to say Hitler killed 30 million jews because he wants to increase the fun in the story.

Please tinard before we go into another book, i am asking you to review what the poster has already said. It is obvious you didnt get the idea. I put a sample above for you to see. The intentions are glaring and unmistakeable. Now Paulipop may have good intentions, he could be trying to see from an open mind, but his judgement is bias and has only one inclination: Ask yourself what is this lecture going to produce:

1. Resentment towards the Names he mentioned here.
2. A danger of making people turn to others things for help rather than to God, afterall they didnt see him before. Now they ones that preach him are corrupt.
3. the treacherous seed of the devilish thought of questioning that there is NO GOD, sown in the heart of the simple
4. A danger of breeding resentment for not just these men of God but towards what they stand for.

the list goes on. I know the implications of these lectures. They are not mere play, they have the ability to kill people and that is why I wont keep quiet, Now there may be fake pastors of course, Jesus said so, but God did not appoint paulipopo to fish them out. God told him to go into all the world and preach the gospel as a christian and his not doing it is already harmful talkless of this.
Anyway, i neva finish sha, watch out for my next post. Remember God says, touch not my anointed and do my prophets no harm. Pple of God have always been criticised and lied upon, in Jesus' time, in Paul's time and now here we are. It will always be there but the difference of believing the truth has the power to save or to hurt.

@poster

something is wrong with you. I am not a slowpoke ok. Try that @ someone else in your family


@y'all
try tolerate am . no vex. u fit tell say na small pikin

Why now Wendy, Put it back ejo. I didnt see what they saw.
Leme jus behold

Hello everyone,
I want like to point out crucial fundermental issues which our dear Mr posterman has got mixed up about life. And because this is fundermental, every single construction he has made here are simply worthless talk coming from someone who appears to feel cheated by an existence of huge gaps between status in our society.

The gaps between the average, poor and the rich may seem unfairly large, but they are not new to life and neither are they restricted to Nigeria or Africa. They exist in every nation is this world, even the mighty United States of America. (Go and investigate it). But it would be unjust for anyone to come up with unfounded and hurting ideologies to explain life and teach these ideas based on his own personal experience.

The poster is attempting to mislead and is contradicting himself by doing the very thing he is here to condemn and I will point them out one by one.

This is not the first time! This is how the frustrated in society attempt to address the ills of society; the poor always feel oppressed and will always criticise, blame and curse the rich. Go and investigate it.

Before I begin, I will like to point out that your introduction included an unfair and lame attempt to avoided contest by calling any opposition "hypocrites", "zealots", "ignorant". Well bro. we are not all that trash and we will not be cowed by that bragado. But by the time i am done here we will all find that those cruel words have better meanings when they are reciprocated.

I want to start by asking:

1. Where is God today?
Life is very very simple and not confusing at all. Time and time again it has been found that there only exists two parallels in life: it is either yes or no; "true or false", "right or wrong", "good or bad", and so on, Life is that simple.

From this, i would like to ask nairalanders one simple question: Is there a God in this life? Yes or No. ,

If "No" is your answer then pls this presentation is not for you. We will come to you on a later date, hopefully, before the rapture.

If "yes" is your answer then pls consider this:
Who is this God? Is He one great being sitting on a throne day and night? Is He active at all? Does He work? Has He revealed Himself to anyone before? How did He do it? Where can one find Him? Does He speak at all? Where is God in our world today?

I said all that to say this: God is not unfair and He has not left us all to grope in the darkness of this world trying to find meaning to our lives. It is clear from the bible that God has continued to reveal Himself from Generation to generation. How did He do it? By speaking. God speaks to people and from what I have heard, God is always speaking. One major confusion people have with others about God revealing Himself has to do with their own understanding of how God speaks. I know for certain, that when God speaks to A, most likely He never calls Mr B. to the discussion. This simply means when God speaks to me, He doesnt have to come to you to tell you that He have spoken to me.

An example of this can be found in the book of Acts. Paul the apostle had an encounter with God. When God spoke no one else heard what God said, even though the bible says terror fell on the people who were with him and they heard a voice.

God revealed Himself tothe people of old by speaking to them and today God still is alive and He still speaks. God speaks to His children and His people. If you ever want to find God alive today, you will find Him in His Children as He was found alive in Paul, and all the apostles

Now @Poster
How do you know who and who God spoke to? How could you tell that God didnt speak to Bishop Oyedepo or Pastor Chris? Did God tell you they are false prophets? By what authourity, on what grounds or by what strength do you make all these claims? Where you there with Pastor Adeyemi when he began his ministry?
You need to know the implications of the things you are telling people. You need to know that God is against what you are doing here.



2. Are you REALLY a christian?
You have mocked the calling of God on these men by these careless statments: "A holy businessman is any person who by his own making and the making of man declares himself "God's Anointed", God
"

Are they not annointed and sent by God? What are you talking about? In the book of John 1: 11- 13, the word of God says, ", He came unto His own and His own received Him not. But to as many as received Him, He gave them the power (in other words: authourity, annointing) to become the sons of God, " Annointing in the bible most times refers to power and authority.

Was Paul not sent by God? Was John the Baptist not sent? Are you not a christian? Every christian is called and sent by God. Otherwise who is God sending these days? Who? President Musa Yar Adua?

In the book of Luke 4:16 Jesus came into to the temple and opened the scriptures reading from it saying ", the Spirit of the Lord is upon me and hath annointed me to preach the gospel to the poor. He hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, " An then later Jesus said, "As the Father hath sent me, SO, send I you, "
", Go ye ALL into the world and preach the gospel, , make disciples of all men, "

Jesus has sent YOU and I to go into the world to preach. How dare you question the integrity of these other sent men of God? He sent us all

This is why I question your claims to be a BIBLE BELIEVING CHRISTIAN!!!!. What kind of thing is this Because there is no christian in this world who doesnt read his bible and you have clearly proven to us all you do not read it.

Needless to say, the bible states in Mathew,
"Judge not, that you be not judged". He is clearly saying for you as a christian, do not have the power or right to judge any other christian, talkless of a non christian who has no basis for judgement at all.

My simple Conclusion
You would have presented a more sensible approach by drawing your arguments from the truth of God's Word rather than from your angry mind. It is hard to believe you are a christian and I still think you are one of those journalist who have continued to write painful things about God's people.

You must refrain from this thing because it is clear you really do not have enough understanding of the way God works today and the weight of the implications of your words.

I encourage you all who have listened to him, please dont be carried away by his enticing words of mans wisdom. The bible says the wisdom of God is foolishness to men and God through the apostle Paul is encouraging us to test all spirits. You must test this one. You must know the truth of this life for yourself and you must fight to remember it so as not to be misled by eloquent and creatively organsized words

This is not all yet. The next subtopic I am going to be dealing with is "The Damning Implications" which will show you all the spiritual implications of what things like this bring into peoples lives.

Till them, cheers.