Let me tell you a short story called.. The Monkey Money Madness! (MMM) Once upon a time in a village, a man appeared and announced that he would buy monkeys for N100 each. The villagers seeing that there were so many monkeys around, went out to the forest and started catching them. The man bought thousands at N100 and as supply started to diminish, the villagers stopped their efforts. He further announced that he would now buy at N200. This renewed the efforts of the villagers and they started catching monkeys again. Soon the supply diminished and people started going back to their farms. The offer rate increased to N250 but the supply of monkeys became so little that it took much effort to even see a monkey, let alone catch one. The man now announced that he would buy monkeys at N500! However, since he had to go to the city on some business, his assistant would now buy on his behalf. In the absence of the man, his assistant told the villagers: ''Look at all these monkeys in the big cage that my OGA has bought from you, I will sell them to you at N350 and when my OGA returns from the city, you can sell it to him at N500''. The villagers squeezed out all their HARD EARNED savings and bought all the monkeys. The most greedy ones among them even sold their lands to purchase many MONKEYS, hoping to make a huge profit without labor. Then... They never saw the man or his assistant. Only monkeys everywhere!
promise101: Of course, I expected this kind of response. When I am very sure that you can now see how foolish you sounded with that meme.
Please, can you drop the victim card??
I used a meme that I don't understand?? What meme did I use? Did I post any meme? Are you drunk?
You are the one who ignorantly posted a meme that never understood. That meme is so clear to be understood.
You were IGNORANTLY comparing the existence of a red cup with the existence of God.
I am busy now, but I would bring out time to TEACH you. So maybe, you won't make such a mistake again.
You posted a picture showing a CLEAR EMPTY(physical) counter. And in the picture, it is written; "see that red cup in that counter? Prove that it is not there?" And worst of all, you likened it to "proving that God doesn't exist".
Now. It is simple for one to prove that the cup is not there, only if the person KNOWS what a cup IS ALL ABOUT. Only if the person knows that a cup MUST BE PHYSICAL, that a cup is used for DRINKING, that a cup must be MATERIAL.
The presence/absence of the cup cannot be disproved, when the person doesn't know what CUP is all about. So the ability for one to disprove or defend something is dependent on the person's understanding towards it. You can argue on what you don't understand, this is always your problem, together with your atheistic fellows. Anyway, that's your buisness.
Now, in the case of God's existence you lacked the understanding of God. That's why you likened it to the former.
Proving that there is no red cup in that counter is definitely NOT the same thing in disproving God's reality.
It will be very easy to disprove God's existence, if you really know what we theists say that God is all about, you understand it, and you our God-logic to disprove God. It is with that knowledge you would, you would know if God is real. You can't just disprove God because you called him a sky daddy, but couldn't see him in the sky. Opinions like this, is so stupid. Because you have tried to CREATE YOUR OWN LOGIC around something you don't even believe in it's reality. Only to disprove your-self created false logic, by not seeing your own version of God when you look up on the sky.
If you are really intelligent, there is no way you would have compared both argument. Because they are DEFINITELY not the same!!! They are not!!!
The red cup argument, is on the basis of something that MUST BE PHYSICAL, CREATED through some processes done by us and MATERIAL.
The "God's existence" argument is on the basis of something that is DEFINITELY IMMATERIAL and is NOT under the influence of our physcical realm.
How dare you say that your red cup argument is the same as God's existence argument?? Please, be knowledgeable next time!
What this tells an average intelligent person is that, you still lack the basic understanding of God-logic. Because you are thinking that God must be physical and material before he can exist, JUST LIKE THE CUP IN THE COUNTER.
#delusion: Since there is no cup in the counter, there is no God. And at the time they are probably saying this, they are FOOLISHLY referring to a sky daddy which is out of God-logic.
That's how romantic foolishness and stupidity can be with atheism.
All this long epistle yet u hardly made any point. Understand something; 99% of atheists in this part of d world were once religious, most of dem understand ur religion/god more than u!
totorimi: Wait o, these people were inside the church praying to God for onething or the other. The house of God is a place of refuge, ok. Even if a devil entered inside the church that day, even if the builders used inferior materials to build, even if that building was designed to collapse. The mere fact that they call it a house of prayer and a house of worship in order words its a temple built in honor of God.
I dont know how it is but I believe there were some innocent and righteous believers in there. I wont say anything but it just ain't adding up. I see it like this if I am being pursued and I run as much as my legs can carry me until i run into my father's compound or house, I believe I am safe no matter what those pursuing me will have to contend with my earthly father first before they can get at me.Anyway RIP to the dead, life is just a moment and we are all gone. Then what are we here for, just to come and merry enjoy the flesh and the good things and go back whenever and wherever it happens? I don't think so, that will be too huge and investment to waste on mankind. There must be a real reason why we are here. Someday we will all know it but I dont know when or how. Let me not talk again because I cannot question God, who am I to dare such, HE has the power to do and undo, only HIM alone can explain the destinies of human being and the timing of events so even in this matter we have no explanation but to blame it on poor quality material or inexperienced local builders. RIP to the dead, one day everybody must die and it does not matter when, where or how but it is surely there waiting at a time least expected.
U were making sense until fear took over,, that same fear used to whip religious folks in line, blocking their reasoning. Fear of a temperamental god that will burn his children in hellfire for ever. Wake up, think, fear not & watch d skales fall off ur eyes!
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1.Insult winners chapel 2. insult Bishop oyedepo 3.Insult covenant university 4. Praise mercy Johnson 5. Show wizkid baby mama going to vacation 6. Show Davido sagging trousers Sh1t generation
U 4got to add: 7. Slap a little girl n accuse her of witchcraft
Ike4God: It was the Pastors plan to use the Governors head for 2016 sacrifice but thank God he escape. oya arrest the pastor n his co contractors, they planed it, why did it not collapse last Sunday or within the week? why that day the Governor was invited?
Ode! You're not even bothered by d loss of over 50 lives, Na gov wen no no u, bother u pass
dabrightt: Can you just listen to yourself and see how foolish you are...They is how some stupid people use lack of sence to brew evil occurence over themself and there family who are you to say a word against God it seems your life isn't inportant to u ....receive a fresh new brain in jesus name
victorazy: You've said it, but what I know is that God's aple can never perish
U typify d average selfish xtian. To u any xtian DAT dies was never a xtian, very judgemental, no empathy what so ever! Guess u never lost a friend or relative.
"Not all that called me father, father are my children"
Allow God to decide that, but one thing I know is that "no child of God shall perish" that's why we pray everyday saying "deliver me FROM EVIL" na God no hear, or you didn't say it
When such thing happen, as a true child of God you ought to walk freely out of the place, besides, if ur too closed to Him, he would have shown you in the early hour of that day 1,2,3(am) or 3days back, he would play the video for you. Meanwhile many children of God will forbid the warning and still attend the service because governor will attend "my ship hear my voice" will such person go heaven?
I'm not righteous but I've involved in car acident with a bus loaded but on our way the tyre busted and the car tumble leaving every occupants critically injured but I came out untouched, ppl were looking at me like movie.
So all those that perish are not children of god ba? And u were d only child of god In dat bus? I bet all those dat died had ur mentality. They never wld have tot/imagined they cld die so cruelly in church, time to WAKE UP!
"Not all that called me father, father are my children"
Allow God to decide that, but one thing I know is that "no child of God shall perish" that's why we pray everyday saying "deliver me FROM EVIL" na God no hear, or you didn't say it
When such thing happen, as a true child of God you ought to walk freely out of the place, besides, if ur too closed to Him, he would have shown you in the early hour of that day 1,2,3(am) or 3days back, he would play the video for you. Meanwhile many children of God will forbid the warning and still attend the service because governor will attend "my ship hear my voice" will such person go heaven?
I'm not righteous but I've involved in car acident with a bus loaded but on our way the tyre busted and the car tumble leaving every occupants critically injured but I came out untouched, ppl were looking at me like movie.
So all those DAT perish are not children of god ba?
mezebel: God did not tatoo expiring date on anyone's life. He giveth and He taketh at any given time. He cometh like a thief in d night,maybe u are waiting for trumpet to sound...their own alarm don blow be that ooo. RIP
So their death came like a thief in d note, are u saying Jesus killed dem?
@ op, true talk, just relocated from ogba to sangotedo, rent is just a little higher, good thing- no flood in sangotedo unlike ajah, light is fair. Problem is d traffic in lekki. Am a business man (photography & web design) and my office is in sangotedo also, so i avoid rush hr, morning n evening, even then, u still can't escape d traffic. Hopefully d traffic will ease up when they complete d ajah flyover n d roundabout reconstruction in lekki
Sinkills: By the grace of God, I am more than four decades on this planet. And you?
if u are really that old then u shld know in d 80s, deeper life members never had tvs, d devils box they & their GO called it. i've families who till today dont have 1 in their house
Sinkills: Well, the onus is on you to mention when it was banned and when it was unbanned. What I understand is that pastor Kumuyi preaches seriously against sin and all appearances of evil. As such most of his members put away their televisions because the benefits were not as much as the negative influences. Now television and other internet facilities still have their inherent evils but the benefits are increasing by the day such as their use as media platforms by churches to reach out to multitudes. I don't know how that has changed pastor Kumuyi's stance for Christians to watch against evil influences from the mass and social media.
MrPresident1: This Hahn no dey hear word wallai, I have told you several times that I was learning, I was learning how to interpret the Scriptures. If you nderstand the Scriptures very well, you will see that I never gave any arbitrary dates, all the dates I gave were tied to specific shadows of Christ.
But the real deal is here now. This one will not fail. We know the end, we can see it. but we don't know on which specific day before the end the MASTER will choose to suddenly appear.
Reminds me of a client of mine that was mistakenly credited with 6.6m by diamond bank. After about 3 months, he replaced d money (bout 200k) he spent from it n returned all 6.6m to d bank, said his conscience was disturbing him. To cut a long story short, d bank simply said thank u, was thinking they wld appreciate him with something
MrPresident1: It is a grave error that you are making to form conviction or build doctrine on only a single stand-alone verse. Doctrine and conviction must be built precept by precept.
This same verse you are misinterpreting can be seen in Mark 9:1, and in Luke 9:27.
Fortunately or unfortunately, that verse is talking about you. Jesus was not talking about a time in the past, Jesus is talking about now. And Jesus is talking to people like you.
Mark 8:38 crossing over to Mark 9:1 presents the best perspective to help us understand the Words of Jesus Mark 8:38 38 Whosoever therefore shall be ashamed of me and of my words in this adulterous and sinful generation; of him also shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he cometh in the glory of his Father with the holy angels.
Mark 9:1 And he said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That there be some of them that stand here, which shall not taste of death, till they have seen the kingdom of God come with power.
Jesus is talking about this PRESENT adulterous and sinful generation that will be ashamed of his Words because of the care and profit of this present world. Jesus is asking his disciples, his brethren, what shall a man give in exchange for his soul? This passage is not talking about a time in the past, it is talking about now, this present moment. Jesus is warning his disciples to stay on guard against the deceptive allures of this present world.
This is the exact same symptoms that you are manifesting. Why are you resisting the coming of Christ or is this not the whole purpose of our existence as Christians- To live a righteous life and be on the look-out for the coming of our blessed hope?
Your soul has been taken in and you are manifesting the very signs that Jesus warns against. Covetousness and Greed for the goods of this debased world. You are drunk on salt water and are hideously thirsty for the world’s goods, that’s why you are resisting!
Luke 21:32 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass away, till all be fulfilled.
I have woken you up. If you like go to sleep again.
MrPresident1: See this one, that is the nonsense all of you have been carrying in your head all these while... this generation, that generation, bla..bla..bla.
The generation Jesus is talking about is the generation that sees the sign in the sun in the moon and in the stars; and the distress of nations just prior to his return. Jesus did not say the generation that was listening to him at that time. Go and read again now that your understanding has been opened. I have done a thread to breakdown that place.
Christ the firstfruits is already risen from the dead, it is turn by turn, Christ the firstfruits. Christ is already in our midst.
You wake up!!! and whilst rousing, remember to remain civil.
Stop twisting scriptures- WHAT JESUS SAID: “For the Son of Man is going to come in the glory of His Father with His angels, and will then repay every man according to his deeds. Truly I say to you, there are some of those who are standing here who will not taste death until they see the Son of Man coming in His kingdom.“ (Matthew 16: 27, 28) Read d bolded again & again until it sinks!
MrPresident1: Just be sober and awake, you do not want the Master to catch you napping as he returns from his very long journey!
Which work is greater or better than sentry duty for the announcement of the coming of OUR GREAT MASTER?
And I did not say he will come on 20th January 2017. My brother, ANY DAY from now to 20th January 2017, in one of the days in between or on that very day 20th is the day time will end
you're deluded, read ur bible; Jesus said he'll return before his generation passes away ((Matthew 24: 25-34), Mark 13:26-30, (Luke 21:27-32). WAKE UP Already bro! Its been; not 100, 500, no, 1000yrs, no, over 2000yrs already! Common man! this is d hight of delusion/scam. Or maybe he has come n gone, we just didnt notice. Next thing we'll hear is; this recession is d tribulation, ur tv is d antichrist and ur atm d mark of d beast. Understand this; if he has not come, then he's not coming back!
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MrPresident1: Brethren, so that we may not lose focus, let us all turn this thread to our playground. Post anything, let us chat, yab anybody, let us discuss, let it be right there before us, to serve as warning, to serve as reminder, so that we will not sleep off, so that we will remain sober, so that we remain awake to receive OUR GREAT MASTER as he arrives in the clouds of heaven. Let us exhort one another: so much the more, as we see the day approaching.
Heavance: I just believe one needs to read the bible well to understand why or why not to pay tithe.... Read your bible, not listen to sweet talks by pastors, moreover the Levites were not to work or own properties at all, but in Nigeria it is a different story.
Don't mind d criminals n their gullible followers! are pastors Levite's? Don't they own properties? Only fearful, ignorant & gullible xtians will fall for d oldest ponzi scam in d world. Am wit daddy freeze on this
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