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Christianity Etc › Re: How Can You Tell Your Pastor Is Not Fake? by chatinent(op): 9:09am On Apr 11, 2021
Kobojunkiee:
Ezekiel 34
I don't still see the point.
Christianity Etc › Re: Do Born Again Christians Need Deliverance? by chatinent: 9:04am On Apr 11, 2021
Born agains are heaven candidates.


Why do they need mere pastors to deliver them?


Can pastors deliver themselves?



No.


Pastors cannot cure sicknesses or spiritual attacks!

Don't let magic deceive you.


Some things are as a result of sin.


That's why we pray to God for his kingdom.


There's more to being born again than mere recitations.
Christianity Etc › Re: How Can You Tell Your Pastor Is Not Fake? by chatinent(op): 9:03am On Apr 11, 2021
FatherOfJesus:
They claim to perform miracles but none of them has ever performed that miracle we can measure and ascertain veracity. Known will perform miracles like growing back a limb or laying hands on someone in the hospital. There miracles are always tricky and full of gimmicks.
All Nigerian pastors have one mindset, grow my personal ministry even if it means collecting other churches members, I just want mine to grow because this directly means more money for them, they now see postorhood as a career hence they become money-centric along the line.
above all, there's no evidence for their God and what they preach. The bible is full of tales that are not consistent with reality hence making all pastors fake
The Bible is straightforward. Pastors only twist it to support their marketing strategies.
Christianity Etc › Re: How Can You Tell Your Pastor Is Not Fake? by chatinent(op): 9:02am On Apr 11, 2021
Kobojunkiee:
Scriptural backup for the teachings of Jesus Christ that every one who claims to be a follower of His ought to have written right on their hearts by God Himself? undecided
No, I mean scriptures backups against following shepherds of God.
Christianity Etc › Re: How Can You Tell Your Pastor Is Not Fake? by chatinent(op): 9:01am On Apr 11, 2021
Dtruthspeaker:
It is a king James World, God has not yet changed this world since Noah.

Unfortunately, there are no examples I can point out but during the Outpouring of the Holy Spirit as God Promised in Joel 2:28-32, Acts 2:15-21, Revelation 6:2, which we saw during the 99-2010, there Pastors Spoke Righteousness and Truth and told their congregations what they hated to hear and did not wish to hear!

Truth and Correction is Always an Anguish to the Wicked!
King James is a mere translation of the Bible from the original language to English. We don't live in a King James' world.


God hasn't changed his words, yes, but many Bible translators have.
Christianity Etc › Re: Ada Jesus Suffers Stroke, Brought To Odumeje & Rita Edochie, They Rejected Her by chatinent: 8:58am On Apr 11, 2021
Everyone knows Odumeje is as fake as other miracle-magic pastors.
Christianity Etc › Re: Is It Right To Shout (Violently) When Praying So Everyone Can Hear? by chatinent(op): 8:56am On Apr 11, 2021
larryjonze:
What is the difference between "ghost and spirit" ... if there is then we can talk on
I'll like to refer to it as the Holy Spirit.
Christianity Etc › Re: Is It Right To Shout (Violently) When Praying So Everyone Can Hear? by chatinent(op): 8:52am On Apr 11, 2021
doggedfighter:
B
Truly a dogged fighter for fp.
Christianity Etc › Re: How Can You Tell Your Pastor Is Not Fake? by chatinent(op): 8:51am On Apr 11, 2021
Seun, lalasticlala Dominque mynd44 pocohantas
Christianity Etc › Re: How Can You Tell Your Pastor Is Not Fake? by chatinent(op): 8:50am On Apr 11, 2021
Kobojunkiee:
Can a lie become True? undecided

God is against your Pastors/Priests/Prophets , etc. who have set themselves up as Shepherds/Teachers/Masters /Authorities over His flock. So long as they continue in this - they insult His Name. undecided

God is not starved for glory that He should accept even tainted offerings from men who insult Him in their disobedience. Neither is He lacking that He should stop to accepting mere efforts made by men. He demands Holiness and nothing less from His followers, without exception. undecided
Scriptural backup, please
Christianity Etc › Re: How Can You Tell Your Pastor Is Not Fake? by chatinent(op): 8:49am On Apr 11, 2021
MaxInDHouse:
They must lead by example {Hebrew 13:7} and if their teachings isn't yielding positive results in the midst of those following them it simply means they're FAKE! Matthew 7:16-18

God is the highest authority so Jesus is subjected to God, therefore every man of God must be subjected to Christ {1Corinthians 11:3} with this protocol others will have to follow the shepherd appointed through God's Holy Spirit {Ephesians 4:11} and the whole congregation will continue to produce the FRUIT Jesus asked all right thinking observers to watch out for! Galatians 5:22-23
This is a beautiful piece.
Christianity Etc › Is It Right To Shout (Violently) When Praying So Everyone Can Hear? by chatinent(op): 8:47am On Apr 11, 2021
First of all, I'll like to correct the impression.


I believe there's nothing like “Holy Ghost.” I solely know of the “Holy Spirit.”


I have a neighbour who is always shouting every morning, and calling the “Holy Ghost Fire” on his enemies, clearly trying to imitate the Elijah scenario.


Cannot people pray silently without attracting attention?


Wasn't it the same thing that Pharisees did that Jesus condemned?


Please share your views.


lalasticlala, Dominque mynd44 Seun pocohantas
Christianity Etc › Re: How Can You Tell Your Pastor Is Not Fake? by chatinent(op): 8:41am On Apr 11, 2021
FatherOfJesus:
All pastors are fake. The allow them bobo you
Give your reasons.
Christianity Etc › Re: How Can You Tell Your Pastor Is Not Fake? by chatinent(op): 8:40am On Apr 11, 2021
Dtruthspeaker:
He that Speaketh and Doeth Righteousness and Truths Only!
Please elaborate. This isn't a King James world.
Christianity Etc › Re: How Can You Tell Your Pastor Is Not Fake? by chatinent(op): 8:40am On Apr 11, 2021
Kobojunkiee:
"Worship" on God's Kingdom means to obey/serve. We are called to put our trust in and obey only the teachings of the Master - not that of the servants, even Paul. undecided

We are called to emulate Jesus Christ and be hearers and doers of His Truth(teachings) -not the teachings of men, including that of Paul which many have sought to eclipse the teachings of Jesus Christ with. undecided
What if the men teach the same thing Jesus taught?
Romance › Re: What Does She Really Want? by chatinent: 8:36am On Apr 11, 2021
She has a bf.


You want her because you now battle with bf to the trophy getter.


She turns you down.

She's fly now.


You feel she's giving you attention. She might be just human and normal.


You inquired of what to do.



My advice: are you ready to settle down?

If no, focus on your life.


If yes, focus on your life and choose sb else.

I no know why girlfriend matter dey sweet una esp when dem tell una say they are dating.


Stop seeing girls as trophies!

Stop forcing yourself on people. A time will come when people will want you to themselves, and you'll only have to select the best alternative.


If she's with sb, and still rejects you, that's your bad...it's not luck trying, it's not respecting one's self.



Have a nice century.
Politics › Re: Dr. Maduka Submits Form: Says "I Come With New Development Phase For Anambra" by chatinent: 8:31am On Apr 11, 2021
Very boring.
Politics › Re: Covid-19: Reactions Trails PMB Conversion Of PTF To PSC by chatinent: 8:30am On Apr 11, 2021
Na wa o
Christianity Etc › Re: How Can You Tell Your Pastor Is Not Fake? by chatinent(op): 8:29am On Apr 11, 2021
Righteousness2:
The Primary Ministry of JESUS Christ was to seek and Save the Lost.

Any Pastor who is not Conciously Dedicated to the Message of Salvation and Holiness which is a prequiste for Heaven, irrespective of whatever you are teaching is a red flag.

Every other thing is secondary. The Salvation is the Primary Reason JESUS came .
Cite the Bible where the prerequisites of heaven were quoted.
Christianity Etc › Re: How Can You Tell Your Pastor Is Not Fake? by chatinent(op): 8:28am On Apr 11, 2021
AntiChristian:
Here's are two big tests to tell which is fake.

Organize some lads to abuse the pastor till he causes them in the name of the Lord.

(2 Kings 2:23-25)
23 Then he (Elisha) went up from there to Bethel; and as he was going up by the way, young lads came out from the city and mocked him and said to him, “Go up, you baldhead; go up, you baldhead!” 24 When he looked behind him and saw them, he cursed them in the name of the LORD. Then two female bears came out of the woods and tore up forty-two lads of their number. 25 And he went from there to Mount Carmel, and from there he returned to Samaria.

The other is to organize six drums of water for him at a wedding and see if s/he can turn them to popular demand wine!
grin
Even if he did, it wouldn't make any difference.

Magicians dey do am too
Christianity Etc › Re: How Can You Tell Your Pastor Is Not Fake? by chatinent(op): 8:27am On Apr 11, 2021
Kobojunkiee:
Jesus Christ called His followers commanding that they trust and obey Him, not His servants. He instructed that we follow His example, not the examples of His other servants. undecided

Now also in His teachings, Jesus Christ declared that He alone is Teacher/Shepherd/Master/Authority where His followers are concerned, and He warned that none of His own attempt to occupy any such roles over the others. undecided
Ok, I get your point.

You mean the congregants emulate Jesus and not worship their leaders?
Romance › Re: Did She Bring Me Luck Or Just Coincidence? by chatinent: 8:26am On Apr 11, 2021
No need for my advice.

He'd still do what he wants.
Crime › Re: Isn't This Sexual Harassment? by chatinent: 8:23am On Apr 11, 2021
Sth that you could have slapped him so hard.
I hate perverts! He's an animal who couldn't control his curse.

So sorry, dear.
Crime › Re: Isn't This Sexual Harassment? by chatinent: 8:22am On Apr 11, 2021
Sth that you could have slapped him so hard.
I hate perverts! He's an animal who couldn't control his curse.

So sorry, dear.
Politics › Re: 2023: I See PDP Office Holders, Members Coming To APC – Tonye Princewill by chatinent: 8:17am On Apr 11, 2021
Rootprof:
As if there is any difference between PDP and APC. They're both same just politicians changing party without ideology. They never have the masses at mind it's all business as usual.
The sixth ethic is meaningless.
Politics › Re: Performance Survey: Rate Your Governor by chatinent: 8:16am On Apr 11, 2021
See ratings. All Nigeria is bad!
Politics › Re: Boko Haram Burns UN Facilities In Borno, Attacks Workers by chatinent: 8:14am On Apr 11, 2021
Political unrest for people in Borno. Na wa o
Christianity Etc › Re: How Can You Tell Your Pastor Is Not Fake? by chatinent(op): 8:13am On Apr 11, 2021
MickzyDonald:
You can't ever tell which one of them is fake
How do you tell which is real?
Christianity Etc › Re: How Can You Tell Your Pastor Is Not Fake? by chatinent(op): 8:12am On Apr 11, 2021
Kobojunkiee:
By imperfections, do you mean sin? undecided

As far as your pastors are concerned, God Himselk declared that He is against them..anyone who sets himself up as shepherd/teacher/authority over God's own flock is against God. Why would you want to check any other criteria when God declared that He alone is Shepherd over His flock, Teacher over His disciples and Master over His servants. undecided

The same Warner that you cannot serve two Masters - not in His Kingdom. undecided
Paul taught people in the congregations of Corinth, Ephesus etc., and he wasn't against God.

Jesus also taught.


Jesus wasn't against God.


Please use biblical backup to support your argument.

Read my previous message again.
Christianity Etc › Re: How Can You Tell Your Pastor Is Not Fake? by chatinent(op): 8:05am On Apr 11, 2021
Kobojunkiee:
All Pastors/Priests/church leaders etc. regardless of their claim to fame are fakes

* Jeremiah 31 vs 31-34
* Ezekiel 34

God did not call or "anoint" anyone of them as shepherds/teachers/authorities over His flock. undecided
So, what're the criteria to check in sb striving to do God's will despite imperfections?

Secondly, how does your Bible reference at Jeremiah support your claims?
Business › Re: Share Your Experience Collecting Your Money Back From Your Debtors by chatinent: 8:04am On Apr 11, 2021
Exodora:
Why do you hate women so much? Men too borrow without paying back !
But there are elements of truth; most ladies will never think of paying back.
Business › Re: Share Your Experience Collecting Your Money Back From Your Debtors by chatinent: 8:02am On Apr 11, 2021
I'll rather dash when I have than lend.

They come with sweet mouth only to see you as a fool later.

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