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This is crazy. Damn ignorant Africans.

Eat da poopoo

Empiree:
2014 but atheists are openly parading the streets and making fun of Kaaba after the so called legislation against them. Even at that, this is all you could pointed out compared to what I have highlighted. I even said earlier that I don't want text references because they are not followed. I wanted you to prove reality on ground like I did with non muslim govts. Saudi may have signed the law but does it follow up?. If they do all these atheists and gay running around like chicken would be gone by now. Instead Saudi authority is killing muslim scholars on charges of terror!sm. Matter of fact they are in the process of executing some Muslim scholars after this Ramadan. I have personally not heard is atheists beheaded.

My question stands. Show me Muslim govt where they persecuted non muslims that led to their mass exodus?

It is clear that you have never gone for hajj and you don't know how to research. You know nothing about Saudi Arabia.

I am not wasting any more time with you.

Empiree:
2014 but atheists are openly parading the streets and making fun of Kaaba after the so called legislation against them. Even at that, this is all you could pointed out compared to what I have highlighted. I even said earlier that I don't want text references because they are not followed. I wanted you to prove reality on ground like I did with non muslim govts. Saudi may have signed the law but does it follow up?. If they do all these atheists and gay running around like chicken would be gone by now. Instead Saudi authority is killing muslim scholars on charges of terror!sm. Matter of fact they are in the process of executing some Muslim scholars after this Ramadan. I have personally not heard is atheists beheaded.

My question stands. Show me Muslim govt where they persecuted non muslims that led to their mass exodus?

Atheists and gays run around in Saudi Arabia?

Why are you lying?

Empiree:
you stuck. You are now at a crossroad

You are the one that doesn't realise that you have disgraced yourself.

Your initial argument is that there is no Muslim government that oppresses non-muslims.

You did not address the fact that atheism has been declared terrorism in Saudi Arabia, punishable by death.

You ignore all the 13 Islamic countries were atheism is punishable by execution.

Yet, you complain about China oppressing Uighur muslims. Hypocrisy.

Apostasy is a crime in many sharia countries. You will never address that.


Anyone can see that you are a dishonest person. Which non Muslim will trust you after noticing how you comment?

Empiree:
bro, why are you shivering?. Do you need orijin leafs to stabilize yourself?. My time is up here now cus you raised no valid point. I have provided you with adequate evidences on hijab and on persecutions and oppressions of muslims. But you failed to provide valid evidences that Muslims govts persecute nonmuslims for their religion.

Let me be clear. There is no where in Earth as we speak where Muslims govts persecute nonmuslims that leads to mass exodus as we seen with nonmuslims governments persecuted Muslims which led to mass immigration from their homes.

Kindly provide evidence of muslim govts do this in our contemporary world, please?.

Instead what we see are some individuals who make up stories of persecution in Muslim countries just to get green card or stay like they do in Canada right now. A lot of Tom dick and Harry are claiming asylum at expense of Islam. They always lie about Islam in their home countries and many of these people are nonmuslims faking stories and lie that their lives are in danger bcuz of Islam..

Examples are numerous. To mention a few, Wafa Sultan, Walid Shoebat etc. They are now irrelevant

You are not intelligent enough to have this debate.

Empiree:
Is Nigeria more secular than Western countries?.

Below you find:

US hijabi Congress woman

New York hijabi muslim students

US lawyer in court etc


Dem no born anybody well to mess with their hijab either in public or in private. You will pay hefty fines that your generations will never recover from.

Ogbeni, in the UK it is confirmed that a judge can ask you to remove your hijab in the court room.

I don't know the nonsense you are talking here.


What about those who force hijabs on others in the north of Nigeria? You will never address it. Muslims are never wrong ij your opinion.

I'm sure you didnt complain about Saudi stopping women from driving until the ban was lifted

Empiree:
are there no harrasement of hijab in public area in south west?. How about the case of law graduate last that made headlines?. She was harrased by CHRISTIAN South

Hijab is not allowed in secular courts. The judge must see your face. They were having a law school induction or something.....


But you overlook your own case where the harassment is physical. In the streets in northern states, both police and other men will harass women who don't cover up.

Empiree:
you are being dishonest. What you are saying is not comparable to what I have highlighted. Be sincere man. I just highlighted non muslim GOVERNMENT SANCTIONED PERSECUTION OF ENTIRE RELIGIOUS COMMUNITY but you are saying something else.

Besides, there are open atheists and gay people in Saudi now and they do nothing about it. Very sad.

Ogbeni, atheism is illegal in Saudi Arabia.

Atheism is punishable by death in 13 Islamic countries. Is that not sanctioned persecution of non Muslims?

What about the murder of ahmadis (ahmadiyya) in Pakistan and other muslim countries?

In Pakistan, Ahmadis are officially declared non muslims. They are killed anyhow and the police or government do nothing. The police even arrest shadow for printing ahmadiyya books. The only time police and the courts act on anti ahmadiyya violence is when there is international pressure.

Empiree:
don't even cite Nigeria. Both CHRISTIANS and Muslims are troublesome in that country. You cited north forcing hijab on CHRISTIANs. But you failed to cite SouthWest forcing off hijab on Muslim ladies in school and at work. Where is tolerance from both sides?

Is it not hypocrisy that you cited only North but turned away from CHRISTIAN South west?

A private school or office has the right to enforce whatever dress code it wants.

I am talking about walking on the streets in Kano and Zamfara

Empiree:
smh... I even highlighted key points but you failed to see it or deliberately missed it. Compared what you posted here with what I posted. Totally different. Average people killing others in Pakistan is different from govt sanction of persecution that I highlighted above.

Is Pakistan the only country I mentioned?

Saudi Arabia where atheism is equated to terrorism and punishable by death?

Indonesia nko?

You are not being honest

Empiree:
fine. But don't curse God. The morning you do that, you crossed the line. Many of you tend to cross the line. You are the ones exporting all sorts of fasad now

Stop lying. How do atheists cross the line?

Charity begins at home. You can tell your northern Muslims to stop forcing and expecting Christian women to wear hijabs.

You can even see how you yourself crosses the line- assuming all atheist are people whoindult your religion.

Empiree:
show us where Muslims are oppressing people. Give us example of people they are oppressing?.

Don't quote text because there are many things in texts that are not practiced. You can't use that as point of reference.

Let me help you in case you are confused.

Example of oppression is what we are witnessing in Gaza.



* Israeli/Palestinians conflicts (where Jewish govt, supported by Christian Zionists govts are bombing and enslaving Muslims.


* India/Kashmir conflicts(where Hindus govt are killing, bombing and enslaving Muslims.


* Burma/Rohingya muslim conflicts (where Burmese buddists govt are killing Muslims like chicken and placing them in open concentration camps.


* China/Xinjiang/Uyghurs muslim conflicts (where Chinese buddists govt are killing muslims, restricting their religious practices and forcing them into concentration camps. Destroying their religious centers and Masajid and forcing them to eat Haram.


So show is where muslim govts are killing non muslims in contemporary world?.

Saudi Arabia beheads apostates

Indonesia arrests apostates or atheist bloggers

Pakistan is a place where Christians and non Muslims are killed on the streets over false charges Of blasphemy.

Atheists face execution in 13 Islamic states.


Don't be blind to the problems in your religion

Empiree:
I have forgot long time. I remember you now. You are that atheist guy. Problem with atheists is that they don't know right from wrong. They are confused set of people. Thanks but no thanks. You can not preach atheism to my family or in my community. Not even Christian will allow that. We will counter you diplomatically. It doesn't mean we have to punish you for that. By default, people of the world belief in God (whatever religion it is). But atheists come out in public and insult God.

Atheists can preach to any adult, as long as they don't force it. Same with Christians and Muslims.

Everyone has the right to express their religion in a non harassing manner.

Simple.

usermane:
Damn. 4 years, 8 months and 28 days. Can't believe how much I have changed.

Hope you're good, Cheers01?

Long time.

You were a Muslim when I first met you. Dem times....

najib632:
وَمَا خَلَقۡنَا ٱلسَّمَآءَ وَٱلۡأَرۡضَ وَمَا بَيۡنَهُمَا لَٰعِبِينَ

(Sahih International)
And We did not create the heaven and earth and that between them in play.

-Sura Al-Anbiya', Ayah 16

Irrelevant quote.

Empiree:
quote me or it is not true. Seems to me you have motives though. If atheists don't try to persuade people to disbelieve in God or mock religious text or figure I have no problem with them.

Lies.

You are just lucky that I can't remember exactly when you said such. I dont have the quote, just my memory.

But then again, you have exposed yourself as an oppressor with this your comment.

Muslims are allowed to do Dawah and preach their beliefs. So why would you have a problem with atheists speaking about their disbelief in religion? Do you really have a problem with atheists exercising their freedom as guaranteed by the constitution?

Empiree:
speak for yourself, bro. If you are oppressing people, make tawba but refrain from making general statement. I am a muslim and I oppressed no one

Really? You are indirectly oppressing people by supporting intolerant policies.

A great example is the support for the punishment of atheists in certain sharia countries. You were in support of it when I discussed it with you few years back.

Empiree:
An-Nahl 43



My Creator, Allah

I wonder how you are debating on this section. This place is like a graveyard

Islam section just doesn't have the numbers it used to have.

I predicted this would happen many years ago. If only maclatunji could see it now....

Memories.

Interesting

Nice thread

Ishilove:
Why won't you wait? Everything I post won't make sense to you because you overrate your own intelligence.

Aunty Born2freak, this is exactly why I bounced on you in that other thread last year. I did not quote or mention you but you quoted me to type filth. When I respond to unprovoked attacks y'all will say I like fighting.

I'm on my own but you sha must leave your lane to jam me, and when I jam you back you will cry foul and be posting links to ancient threads to show the 'proof' of the 'problem' you have with me.

Smh. Keep having problem with me o, you hear? Na your pocket e dey because I no send you. If you jam me and I jam you back, don't play the victim, gerrit?

Friggin cyberbully.

Please, go back to the romance section where your limited brain capacity would be at home. Nonsense. If nairaland was a sensible place, you would have been banned for life.

How many people will you fight. Men gerrout!

lol......may christians saw this thread and ran away

Davidylan and iord talking out of their behinds.



Go back to the topic. Atheism is not science.

Atheism vs christianity vs islam on morality.

AbdH: I think the third Islamophobia describes your condition best. See Sino for therapy.

Someone is asking you to say something positive about islam and you call him an islamophobe ??


wow.

Empiree: In African man's voice, respect your elders. Oyibo presidents waka around mall in foreign counties as well with their wives, maybe just one. But for this King "Jafi Java" with 4 women, that's African pride.

African foolishness


There was a british tabloid that exposed African royals, especially Nigerian ones. They do nothing for the society and get rich. At least, British Royals engage in charity and military service.