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Chibuking81:Those who smile as the pump it, should be the one to bear the brunt, I am not available for now, till they come down to #70 or #80, Okomo oil level. |
Mpeace:https://nairametrics.com/2019/05/15/how-to-buy-mtn-nigeria-shares-on-the-nigerian-stock-exchange/ MTN listed at N90 giving it a price-earnings ratio of 11x (we assumed an earnings per share of N8 based on profits of N160b |
mendes911: GonFreecss1:It will join soon. It's always good to share idea, I was about concluding to place mtn buy other tomorrow, but I will not, rather let observe market first. With mtn EPs and PE they suppose to be competing in price with Okomo oil of 8.91 eps, GTB of 6.54, Stanbic of 7.04, and Zenith of 6.15, not with Dancem that has 2018 FY EPS of 22.83 and pay #16 as dividend. Only Dancem dividend of #16 is times two of mtn 8 EPs. And after their IPO more share will be added thereby neutralizing down the more their EPS, maybe then due to number of additional share through IPO, their EPS will come down to 4 or 5. Mtn price might still get to #160 this week, but it's a bad decision to enter at this material point in time. Its overprice and overvalued from data available. One buying mtn at tomorrow current price he or she is on his own. |
Eyes opener to mtn chasers from Nairametrics old news. EPS of #8, indeed I have taken my time to carried out research and find out that by tomorrow with 10% upward selling of mtnn, it will reach it recommended pick of nairametrics of #90 to #160. https://nairametrics.com/2019/05/15/how-to-buy-mtn-nigeria-shares-on-the-nigerian-stock-exchange/ It’s official, Nigeria’s largest GSM Company, MTN Nigeria, will be listed on the Nigerian Stock Exchange on Thursday 16th of May 2019. As followers of the Nigerian Stock Exchange, we have waited for years for this to happen and we are glad to finally see this long-awaited announcement come alive. What does this mean? By listing MTN on the Nigerian Stock Exchange, its shares can now be traded everyday by buyers and sellers. Until, now this was not possible as its shares were held privately by its investors. You could only previously buy and sell MTN shares in South Africa and until last year’s Ghana IPO. Why buy MTN shares? MTN Nigeria is a behemoth of a company reporting massive profits that run into over N160 billion. In its latest investor conference, it said that it reports a return on equity of about 90%. This means it makes a profit of N90 for every equity of N100 it investS. That’s unheard of for any quoted company in the country. MTN also claims that to pays over 80% of its profits as dividends. It is also likely to list at N90 (and expected to climb as investors scramble for the shares), thereby placing it at a price-earnings multiple of 11x. It’s double-digit revenue and profit growth suggest this is actually a cheap price. What price is great? Going by the numbers we have seen, MTN might be listed at N90 giving it a price-earnings ratio of 11x (we assumed an earnings per share of N8 based on profits of N160b). If you consider that MTN‘s price-earnings ratio has the potential to rise to as high as 30x, then the share price could easily be N240 by year end. MTN South Africa trades at 29x earnings per share, so this theory is far fetched. MTN could, therefore, be a good stock to buy for any price between N90 and N160 giving investors a good upside. |
currentprice:Rest of mind as one kept on seeing every two/three days 52 weeks low. We even talk about bonanza last year, it's now that the really bonanza has shown face. How will you feel that you buy Zenith at #19 and see it at #17, or UBA at #6.7 and see it at #5, Fidelity/FCMB at 1.65 and see them at #1.30. It's so pathetic that millions/ hundreds of thousands are reducing from ones own worth, with no near news to drive the stocks up. Fundamental is not the issue, but rather when will the bottomless bottom of sound fundamental stock show? It might even be better to wait and see the end of this stock economic meltdown in NSE. Because if it become risky game buying mtn, then it will also be a risky game buying fundamental stocks that melt peoples money on daily basis. Then toward the month of June ending before the month of July been q2 result releasing month, one can start taking position in sound fundamental stock. |
ukay2: ukay2:So as you have entered, you plan dumping next week when others are struggling to enter. You may dump next week only to chase it again with additional money to buy back, as the gear change, and upward movement continue. ![]() Many are interested to own substantial share in mtn, not to jijo. We are in computer age and voice call and data service are among the leader in the business, if not number one. That's why many companies are selling down to join, had it been I know I would have place other today. |
stcool:Lol I haven't entered, I was busy, so didn't do much in trading today. But come to think of it. Assuming that NSE has 4 trillion before mtn listing, and now they have listed at #99. Then the same people that has stake in 4 trillion now have interest in newly listed mtn which they started buying at #99 with over 100 billion bid everyday and about 5/10 billion naira sales daily, and they chased it upto 144.85, still on bid. Naturally 4 trillion has been reduced, meaning that many companies financial strength has reduce by sharing it with mtn, with no new foreign money seem coming in or going towards other stock.This ordinary suppose to force all the stocks to shade shape before rebalancing, things will not remain same with the listing of mtn, MM/ other stock participant can't move out their money and expect to have same financial capacities, even if they return back later not 100% will return back with them, some will stay back in mtn and be struggling to hold reasonable amount of share in mtn. We may likely not witness massive bull as we assuming before, upon massive loss in many fundamental stock ASI still climb to 31,000+, Dancem make a move to maintain number one lead, but nothing last forever, if care is not taking mtn sooner will take over from Dancem as number one leader in NSE, unless he technically fight them. Problem here is when will one see the bottomless bottom of the current market 52 weeks low, the bottom might not be insight this week. As some still view mtn from negative side of view, I see it as stock to grab when one see the opportunity, and to leave before q2 result if need be, because since they are looking at IPO the stock might still go higher. |
Yayira:Is like those "many" know what we don't know. Those dumping are not ordinary, insiders are the one offloading not ordinary stock traders. The way they push stock down need big time portfolio holders, it required stocks in billions of naira to force such changing. Zenith from #20+ to #19, GTB from #31.30 to #30.50, Access from #7+ to #5.95, UBA from #6.50 to #5.70, Nestle from #1,500+ to #1,300 etc. This are big time MM. Is like mtn earning is beyond our analysis, and the insiders are seeing the really value. On daily basis other stock keep on falling, while mtn will start with full bid of multimillion and end in millions bid. But manipulation will not be rule out in NSE, the more you look the less you see. |
Massive dumping in NSE, stocks are really falling. What are they pursuing? Is like all eyes are fixed on mtn, many will get mtn tomorrow. |
rebekah2011:Thanks dear |
DeRuggedProf:Check again |
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pee30:https://www.vanguardngr.com/2019/05/faac-shares-n616-198bn-to-federal-states-lgs/ |
If the mtn annualised estimate eps stand at #9.50, it means that those pursuing it have sole aim of jumping out before q2 result which will expose the overprice value of the mtn stock. If the EPs stand to be true, they should be in the region of GTB and Stanbic , that is #30/#50. |
Those that are interested in mtn share will likely get it tomorrow or next, by them the pumpers will be dumping. The way they are sharing it today shows that it pumping strength is reducing, more dealings are recorded today in mtn than previous days. |
DeRuggedProf:Maybe they have seen that people are trying to lack interest in the stock, they now decided talking to mtn for them to make their stock available so that they can dump. |
At about 9:30am I successful place my order and was able to see my bid at number 20+ in the list today, and at about 50 million bid, unlike before I don't see it at all, this show that before the end of this week mtn will be available and ordinary shareholders can get it. Other stocks will still go down this week, by next week stocks will pick up, after people might have jump into mtn and start jumping out. |
maryjames9:Believe me, non is waiting, most of those claiming that they hate mtn are the majority queuing up to buy mtn since last week, this including the companies CEOs, but the mtn door in NSE real time online trading was shut down since they listed. Their trading was done through cross deal, except one sending email order to his/her stockbroker to buy for him, which they might get through cross deal, the worse still remain that stockbrokers themselves are also interested. How I wish that there will be mass Exodus from buyers, withdrawing their buying interest in mtn, so that mtn share will flood the market. |
Mpeace:For your information, transcorp MM maybe pumping their share to dump on those willing to receive, once the succeeded, they will take their loot to mtn. Upon the negative side view of some people toward mtn, like during the Diamond bank era. Mtn still have something to offer, that's why big caps owners are selling off portion of their companies share to tap in mtn. If those queuing up in mtn line leave, it will be available. And as long the keep on standing in the queue other stock will keep on going down most especially this new week. One will buy from sound fundamental stock, and will be happy that he has succeeded in entering at lower or bottom price, only to look up and see another lower/bottom price. One will buy Zenith at #20 and look up, only to see it at #18, UBA at #6 and see it at #5. It's not encouraging seen the loss of hundreds/ millions plus of naira in ones portfolio upon the lower entrance. It's better one buy at lower price and the price remain the same for some period before moving up. There is high probability of stock going down this week than moving up. |
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This listing of mtn will bring about some number of downward risk to NSE, which we are witnessing already. Most companies MM money will be shifting to mtn thereby reducing their pumping bargaining power in their various stock, FCMB as case study has offloaded sum of their holding to be loaded in mtn, since they have advantage of their CSL stockbroker and they stand chance of getting theirs through cross deal strategy. I would have been a victim of FCMB yesterday dumping, as I reducing some unit of order in mtn, and place it at 1.60 in FCMB junction, and later wanted to shift it to 1.68, but decided to look for other stock leaving 3 unit @ 1.60 which was filled at dying minutes, and the close at #1.55. Even if they return to 1.60+ next week, they have said bye bye to #1.80 for short period. People in transcorp should be careful because am sensing pumping and dumping move, which will likely take place in the new week. The disadvantage of mtn listing, will be in reducing the number of activities in other listed stock, because it's still the same investors that will take part. Many want to be mtn shareholders irrespective of what their EPs and PE will be for now, market will get back to itself maybe by releasing of q2 result period which will be coming up by July, then we will know the mtn strength by their result. Market will remain down for now, except if all the people who are cueing up at mtn entrance decided to come back, which might not be possible by next week. Because as soon as the mtn door become accessible ordinary share holders will troop in, and then after a little while, the law of diminishing return will set in. |
Kagame:What if it's the same people that are selling are the same people buying to keep on pumping the price high, since their daily gain and movement is far greater than the buying and selling commission. And they will only release some to the SEC boss, NSE boss, Stockbroking boss and Interested politicians. 49 deals that I saw yesterday mean that, it was about 49 people they sell to. |
OBAGADAFFI:Which is very bad idea, the SEC should have gotten them issue additional share, with low price, and compensate the existing shareholders by allocating bonus share to them. |
locodemy:Those who force them are the one manipulating it. Mtn would have been better stay on their own, that coming to disorganize our market that is getting stabilize after the general election, market is moving one step up, two step down. We should resist other listing by introduction, any one that fail to come in through IPO should stay clear. |
Who on this platform has gotten even 1 unit of mtn share?. If no one has gotten, that means some serious illegality is going on, and both mtn , NSE, and SEC need to be sue to court. How can a stock be listed on the flour of NSE @#90, and for two consecutive trading section none of the ordinary shareholder participants has gotten one unit, and stock keep on closing on 10% on daily basis. They should have giving them modality to make the share available for the first time at least 3 trading days, even if it mean creating additional share to accommodate new investors. Or get them going first through IPO, which will last for a week or two. This act of listing by introduction is purely scam. Manipulation is seriously going on, from today market experience shows that various companies CEOs are grabbing their units through back door, massive sale off was witness in Nestle, GTB, Zenith etc, even in the FCMB that has CSL stockbroker as their subsidiary, offloaded heavily at #1.55 the last minutes of today trading, I believed that this has connection with getting money ready for Monday trading, I think since they are big stockbroking company they can easily get mtn stock on cross deal. I place my buying order at about 9.40, and the order went through, but it didn't show in the bid line up, I placed another one and it didn't show also. When I refresh the bid box many times, I found out that nothing was added or removed, it appeared with the same figure from beginning to end of trading section, and my bid expired. After they might have done pumping the price to their desired junction, they will look for whom to dump on. Anyway it's better we leave them, after they finish pumping the stock, they should also dump it on themselves. |
Mtn has started releasing |
Even companies CEOs are bailing out to join mtn, after pumping they are now dumping/offloading to get ready for tomorrow. |
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Mcy56:Please do me a favour, always jump and pass whenever you see my post and you don't like it. I never blame anyone for my action, unless you have done that on my behalf. |
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I haven't entered, I was busy, so didn't do much in trading today. But come to think of it. Assuming that NSE has 4 trillion before mtn listing, and now they have listed at #99. Then the same people that has stake in 4 trillion now have interest in newly listed mtn which they started buying at #99 with over 100 billion bid everyday and about 5/10 billion naira sales daily, and they chased it upto 144.85, still on bid. Naturally 4 trillion has been reduced, meaning that many companies financial strength has reduce by sharing it with mtn, with no new foreign money seem coming in or going towards other stock.

