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ECKANKAR Nigeria, 2025 ECK Soul Adventure Seminar, Umuahia, cordially invites you to an Online HU Song and ECK Light and Sound Service scheduled as follows:

Date: Sunday, May 18, 2025

Venue (In-Person): Abia Hotels, 16 Finbarrs Road, Umuahia, Abia State

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MaxInDHouse:
In which country did Isaiah and Micah say they will be?

I do not know.

Ọmọ Jehovah's Witnesses are everywhere today and they will never ever raise weapon in support of anyone whereas those you thought are united in
Weed, music, sex, fear, charity, cultism, Love, Education will easily carry weapons against their members at the order of someone whose family is safe and start killing themselves. Revelations 6:3-4

You thrive in a lot of ignorance sir. If you were to be pegged against a bushman, only God knows how much you will hoodwink them.

Below are a list of very peaceful groups who do without the Bible are not Jehovah Witnesses:

1. Bhutan (Nation)
Philosophy: Guided by Gross National Happiness rather than GDP.

Peaceful Traits: Minimal involvement in international conflicts, strong environmental ethics, and a Buddhist emphasis on compassion.

Violence/Crime: Very low crime and violence rates.

2. Iceland (Nation)
Global Peace Index: Ranked #1 most peaceful country by the Global Peace Index for over a decade.

Traits: No standing army, extremely low crime, strong rule of law, high levels of trust and gender equality.

3. Amish (Ethno-Religious Group in the U.S. and Canada)
Traits: Nonviolent, reject modern weapons and politics, follow strict pacifist Christian teachings.

Conflict: Avoid even self-defense; focus on forgiveness and community harmony.

4. Tibetan Buddhists (Ethnic/Religious Group)
Philosophy: Deeply rooted in nonviolence and compassion under Buddhist teachings.

Traits: Historically a theocratic society focused on spiritual rather than military pursuits.

5. Hadza People (Indigenous Tribe in Tanzania)
Traits: One of the last remaining hunter-gatherer societies; known for egalitarian social structures and lack of hierarchical conflict.

Violence: Intra-group violence is very rare.

6. Costa Rica (Nation)
Traits: No military since 1948; focuses on education, healthcare, and environmental preservation.

Policy: Invests heavily in peaceful development and diplomacy.

7. Scandinavians (e.g., Norwegians, Swedes)
Traits: Countries like Norway and Sweden have high trust societies, low crime rates, and strong social support systems.

Foreign Policy: Generally pursue peace, humanitarian aid, and diplomacy.

Source: AI.

MaxInDHouse:
I love the highlighted!

I must say "thank you" and "thank you" again and again for this question!

Now pick one out of all these that has helped all it's adherents to divert their resources into production of food and information materials, stop producing, buying, selling and using weapons and vow never to raise weapons against anyone again. Isaiah 2:4; Micah 4:3

Survival, Charity

Ọmọ the true adherents of God's word (Bible) has used this wonderful book to achieve what you are reading today!

In which country do you find those?

Dtruthspeaker:
Are you about to tell us that you have seen Napoleon, Hitler, Hammurabi, Mohammed living on the earth after they died?

Note Google still records they are dead and have not returned

Your point on me not having seen these characters hence not having existed is like you saying since I have not my father's father, then he did not exist. How elementary could that reasoning be?

It gets more alarming when you include people like Napoleon and Hitler in the list who existed in the era of cameras. It does things to our sense of 'nawa o'.

MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ religion has never ever been the cause of any atrocities anywhere rather it's POLITICS but Satan blinded most people making you think religion is the cause whereas FALSE religion is just one of the tool in the hands of politicians!


Conflicts in this world has always been due to POLITICS so God's word came to shed light on this.

God's word (Bible) has gathered people throughout the world today and what is written in the Bible book of Isaiah 2:2-4 and Micah 4:1-3 is undergoing fulfillment today among true adherents of God's word (Bible)

I see your innocence in reasoning, but truth builds on itself, hence learning never stops.

That said, the following gathers people:

Weed, music, politics, religion, sex, fear, charity, cultism, Love, Education, etc. What is the big deal in "gathering people"?

Dtruthspeaker:
The mere fact that no one has seen nor identified Napoleon, Hitler, Hammurabi, Mohammed etc since they died proves all these you say are just your wishes.

I am not sure you have your information intact on these characters sir.

We learn everyday...

Kobojunkie:
I stated that rapture is an imaginary idea — wholly created for those in the religious circle by their many gods of men. So, why ask me this?

Here we have a You who obviously is oblivious of the scientific and mystical import of 'imagination' and its place in the scheme of what reality is to the human sensoria.


Just to point out: you did not state Rapture was imaginary other than now. Props to you though, we do not have audio-visual evidence yet on the event much as we do not in several other realities and "imaginaries" like how the universe came to be.

Truthseeker10:
So explain 1 Thessalonians 4:16. You quoted verse 17 earlier.

That is not what it means to "quote". He requested information and I shared with him.

Even if I quote it, what point does it make? I could quote it to highlight opinions which differ from it.

MaxInDHouse:
This is why i asked you initially if you are a Bible believer because the tool (Bible) has achieved this globally and as for the language my guy this is spiritual not just physical language.

In which land?

Statistics shows that (relatively) atheist or non-religious populations (countries) are more peaceful and harmonious than the religious ones. More so, religion and their books are single-handedly behind most atrocities on earth.

Let me enlighten you:

The importance of language is not just to speak what the other person could interpret rather to speak in harmony and cohabit peacefully.

So the world can't get any tool no matter the technology only God's word (Bible) can achieve that and it's undergoing fulfillment today!

Before the Bible came and after it did, there had been conflict. I am not even sure how you reasoned yourself into thinking peace exists in and would be ushered via a random book which basically is a compilation of personal letters, biography and history where the original characters never intended it to be used as it is being done, neither they being aware their letters would one day be referred to as a Bible and held in the regard that you folks do.

You sound like God asked that a book called "Bible" be written and should become "his word".

Truthseeker10:
Will all those who have faith in Christ be raptured to heaven?

If you create a system where all man must reap from what they sow down to even if the breath in something, they must breathe out something else in return, will you throw everything up and decide to burn those who had been good all the while and reward an evil doer who at the last time accept someone as his lord and Savior?

Will you build a whole planet within a an unspeakable galaxy of galaxies then put just a single race of beings in it and make accepting anyone as your savior a yardstick for grooming your children not minding their character?

MaxInDHouse:
Please present any group or organization that has used what you are suggesting to gather people from different countries throughout the world and unite them so that they won't lift up weapons against themselves yet members of such an organization or group emerged from countries around the world.

Its one thing to have a tool, its another to use...

That's what the Bible God promised! Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3

In fact the Bible God promised they will speak in harmony as if they are speaking the same language! Zephaniah 3:9

This sounds cool. But put it behind your mind that someone who could make such bold claims would not use conflicting methods and ideas to bring about this.

They would most likely use tools which everyone understands, something like Google Translate...

Hold on, aren't we being "speak(ing) in harmony as if we are speaking the same language! Zephaniah 3:9" when we use Google Translate and similar tools?

Its one thing for a prophecy to be made, its another for the people concerned to catch it's fulfilment because it obviously is easy miss. This is what this thread is about.

Dtruthspeaker:
You want people to talk of something which they know that if Just Is is done, they would not be qualified?

Also "not being qualified" is a corner the deceiver have pushed a lot of people so as to generate fear.

Advanced information tells you that the ultimate God cannot regret making man and cannot be angry.

The earth is designed to experience calamities and troubles like the apocalypse, but remains the best school for Souls to learn the qualities of divine love and move in to his rightfully place as a manifested Son of God.

So even if the earth is turned upside down, it will always house Souls who dare to incarnate on earth.
Eternity means perpetuity.

Kobojunkie:
Abegi! Why not watch it and break down the parts you think make sense to you so we can address them to see how it is not of Scripture but of his private Christian delusion. 🙄🙄🙄🙄

That would be doing too much for the lazy...

First things first, the whole idea of Rapture comes entirely from the doctrines of the religion of Christianity... it is not in fact biblical. Second, what the man mostly describes is the Coming of the Kingdom of God, which took place right before the destruction of Jerusalem, the exiling of more than 1/3rd of the population of Judah who survived the decimation and desolation of their land back in the 1st century AD. That is what is referenced in much of Revelation. That is no Rapture but rather the events that were part of the coming of the Kingdom of God.

What event then passes as the Rapture to you?

MaxInDHouse:
Hmmm, now i know what your problem.

Kindly Solve it then by providing answers to my questions by not deflating them. We are talking of reality and how you present the bible as if it was meant and intended to he a complete work on reality.

I then asked if the Bible is a complete work on reality as you would have us believe, why don't we use it to become doctors, philosophers, etc considering all those are studying reality from their own methods.

All those fields you mentioned are for different purposes and surely they are important but none of them can make people from different geographical locations on planet earth form one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers just as God promised in the Bible! Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3

The internet can do this better pooling people of different languages together via tools like Zoom and AI providing real-time translations and information, leading to instant understanding, edification and perspectives in the face of conflicting and divergent view points which notoriously is the cause of divisions and conflict of interests. This is how peace and unity can be achieved. Mere mortals have studied and understood this

The Bible cannot do and never achieve this in that it holds unbending views that are not compatible with other people's cultures, doctrines and most importantly realities. E.G Jesus being God while they know different.

The purpose of Bible is to help mankind cohabit peacefully throughout the globe!

If you understand why conflict occurs as I tried to explain to you, you will of your own accord suggest a different approach to peace, and have whomever gave you the idea of this tool you're touting go check their 'wisdom quotient'.

MaxInDHouse:
Well i only believe in the Bible whenever i see anyone talking about reality i try as much as possible to figure out the source of knowledge so in your post i noticed you mention "BIBLE" and at the same time "RAPTURE" and i have always known that no version of the Bible used the term but i may be wrong that's why i tried to be certain that i'm right.

And this is why I asked when it was mentioned on this thread that the term existed in the bible.

I see how you perceive the "Bible" and you presented it like some authority on reality.

Why don't we study it to become doctors, biologists, physicists, astrologists, Pilots etc? after all, Aren't those disciplines a study of reality?

MaxInDHouse:
Do you believe only in the Bible?

Just answer the question first, you need do that so you come face to face with your aimlessness around the question on where the word "rapture" was used.

MaxInDHouse:
You have answered me Sir:

No version of the Bible used that word!

So what does that mean or imply?

Or who said the bible used that term?

MaxInDHouse:
Thanks for the highlighted Sir!

Lol who will help tell you that the Bible was not written in English language and that:

"The phrase "caught up" is translated from the Greek word "harpazō", meaning to seize or snatch away. When the Bible was translated into Latin (the Vulgate), "harpazō" became "rapiemur", from which we get the English word "rapture."?

Do you now see why I said you are leading us to elementaries?


How do you even read a book translated from several other languages and now hold everyone down that it must be word for word?

MaxInDHouse:
The word "RAPTURE" is my question Sir!

What is your point lol? You want to say the Bible never mentioned it hence any allusion baseless right ?

MaxInDHouse:
Any version!

Thessalonians 4:17 (Tongue-in-cheek)

MaxInDHouse:
Is the word RAPTURE written in the Bible?

We seem to be heading into elementaries here, and you sound like this "Bible" is one original work of literature as in an author sitting down to write a book yo be called such.

There are several versions of "Bible" and I know they use different words for stuff, which version of "Bible" are you talking of?

MaxInDHouse:
What is RAPTURE?

While not adhering to the biblical definition. and understanding, I will cut through with advance information that it is an event which had happened several times in History on this planet (and others) where the beings who are in charge of the spiritual development of mankind and who "made man in their image" levitate a few folks to a mother spaceship in orbit ala Elijah and the so-called "chariot of fire" for reasons known.

Coming to the biblical one described by John and others, it was a grand event among diverse others which at the time was to come not long after the departure of Jesus if you are to take Jesus's words which the young man in the video above uses seriously.

Major keypoint on what "rapture" is in this case: Levitation.

MrPresident1:
There is a movie 'A tribe called Judah' putting it right in our faces that Nigeria is where Judah is - the people.

See what is written:

Zephaniah 3:10
From beyond the rivers of Ethiopia my suppliants, even the daughter of my dispersed, shall bring mine offering.

From beyond the rivers of Ethiopia, the LORD'S people will come

wow, I saw the ad for the movie but never thought to sit down with it.

MrPresident1:
The guy is on the right track. He already knows the fake Israel, he knows we are living in a matrix of lies, he knows that all this concoction is from masterminded from the highest level, from the mind of an evil genius, he is very much on the right track.

The enforcers will avoid your thread like a plague, or try to derail with unintelligent mumbojumbo

Yea. is we may find shocking is the possibility that where the God of the bible was leading the Isrealites is actually West Africa and prominently Nigeria.

The term "Ile Ife" is 'dangerously' beginning to have some basis...

Add that to the fact that King Solomon's wife the queen of Sheba purportedly lived and died in Nigeria having been visited by him.

Kobojunkie:
All he spewed was nothing but more religious gobbledegook, the same as the over 46,000 other Christian denominations do, including the ones that manufactured the idea of a rapture.

Here is an archeological find that goes along with what this young man is saying


https://www.tiktok.com/video/7504300786537565445/

Kobojunkie:
All he spewed was nothing but more religious gobbledegook, the same as the over 46,000 other Christian denominations do, including the ones that manufactured the idea of a rapture.

I am not sure of you watched the video. I still am not sure if you understood if you did.

This is is pure history if I should summarize

Dtruthspeaker:
You want people to talk of something which they know that if Just Is is done, they would not be qualified?

No. A lot of people have not understood what is translated in the bible for them.

The young man in the video did a hard and good job of doing so using biblical references.

Many in other paths like Eckankar know what really went on and what the prophecies really mean including the being who gave John those prophecies which I wrote on by the way.

By and large, this is the time of revelation where things hidden in plain sight would come to the surface for a lot of us.

MrPresident1:
The goons have already started attacking you.

Once you ask questions, you must be put down

Yea lol, I am waiting for someone to use valid points to counter the guy

Its a long butt ride right into the rabbit hole. At the end of the video, I am not sure what a lot of you would think.

We can talk about it here.

Here is a summary:

Introduction to the Rapture Discussion

- The conversation begins with a reference to the rapture, suggesting that it may have already occurred, challenging the common belief that it is a future event.

- The host expresses curiosity about the guest's perspective on biblical history, particularly regarding the rapture, indicating a desire to explore unconventional views on the topic.

- The guest, Mr. Kunle Adere, shares his belief that the rapture has already taken place, and they discuss various reasons and biblical references to support this claim.

Biblical References to the Rapture

- The guest references Revelation 1:7, stating that it indicates those who pierced Jesus will see him upon his return, raising questions about the timing and nature of this event.

- The discussion includes a passage from 2 Thessalonians that warns of a rebellion and the revelation of the Antichrist before the day of the Lord, suggesting that the rapture cannot happen until these events unfold.

- The guest proposes that the resurrection of the dead could align with the return of those who pierced Jesus, suggesting they may have witnessed his return during a past event.

The Epistle of Apollos and Historical Context

- The guest introduces the Epistle of Apollos, a non-canonical text that discusses the rapture and provides a narrative of how it may have occurred, suggesting that the rapture was witnessed by some historical figures.

- The text describes Apollos's vision of the rapture during a time of siege in Jerusalem, indicating that those who were taken up were not seen again, as they had been resurrected.

- The conversation touches on how this perspective may challenge traditional views held by many Christians regarding the timeline of biblical events and the nature of resurrection.

Discussion of Rapture Reasons

- The guest lists 15 reasons to support the claim that the rapture has already occurred, starting with the assertion that Jesus's return was witnessed by those who pierced him.

- Another point mentioned is that some standing with Jesus would not taste death before seeing his return, referencing Matthew 16:28.

- The conversation continues with the idea that the generation witnessing these events may not be defined by the typical 40-year span, suggesting flexibility in interpreting 'generation' in biblical terms.

Cultural and Historical Parallels

- The discussion shifts to cultural practices, noting similarities between ancient Hebrew customs and those of various African cultures, such as circumcision and marriage traditions.

- The guest argues that these cultural connections provide evidence of a historical link between African people and the biblical Israelites, emphasizing the importance of recognizing these ties.

- The guest also mentions the significance of language, noting similarities between Hebrew and various African languages, particularly Yoruba, as further proof of this connection.

Controversial Perspectives on Geography and Identity

- The guest asserts that the current state of Israel does not represent the biblical Israel, claiming that the true descendants of the Israelites are found in sub-Saharan Africa.

- He argues that historical and geographical evidence supports the idea that the original land of the Israelites encompasses parts of modern-day Africa rather than the Middle East.

- This perspective challenges mainstream beliefs about Jewish identity and the historical narrative surrounding the Israelites, prompting further discussion about the implications of these beliefs.

Deception and Control in Historical Narratives

- The guest discusses the notion of deception in historical narratives, suggesting that there is a concerted effort to obscure the true history of the Israelites and their connection to Africa.

- He posits that the motivations behind this deception include control over cultural narratives and resources, as well as maintaining power dynamics in modern society.

- This leads to a broader discussion about the implications of these beliefs for contemporary African identity and the understanding of biblical history.

Conclusion and Open Questions

- The conversation concludes with an acknowledgment of the complexity of the topics discussed, emphasizing the importance of open-mindedness and critical thinking when exploring historical and biblical narratives.

- The guest encourages listeners to question traditional beliefs and engage with diverse perspectives on biblical history and identity.

- This dialogue highlights the ongoing relevance of these discussions in shaping contemporary understandings of faith, identity, and history.

Yup!


The evidence and of this and so many more exists. When one is ready to go beyond the denial stage, this young man will help with a dose of the redpill using biblical sources and evidence. There are others...

Enjoy.

Source:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXXNdhbwz9Y?si=n54Vz7j57Wk-FuSv