₦airaland Forum

Msauza: Bwahahahahaha!!! How will ANC rig the votes if they know well that they are the majority supported party. ANC does not use race to canvass for votes because the ANC has many white supporters and members. Your knowledge about SA politics is up to poo. Bwahahahahaha!!

it's funny how you like to brush aside truth so you can continue with your myopic reasoning.

ANC riggs election and i am not the source,
http://www.stormfront.org/forum/t275548/

and ANC black empowermennt policy is a proof that it uses race to gain support from s.tupid blacks
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-19402353
South Africa is all about the black people now; this government that's in power does not care about us white people. Every year our children graduate from universities but cannot find jobs because preference is given to black children, as part of the ANC's Black Economic Empowerment policy.

As a white person I feel alienated from this government. Politicians tell us that we are the "rainbow nation" and yet discriminate against us with their pro-black policies.

read the report at the right too.

you are clearly one of ANC's stooges so i don't expect you to accept these facts.

Msauza: You are such a fool. SA is a multi party democracy and the only thing is that the ANC is the most supported political party in SA, that's why it is always seem to be one party state. ANC runs eight provinces while DA runs western cape. In 1994 elections ANC won seven provinces, IFP won Kwazulu Natal while NP won western cape. You are just only shooting blanks bra.

truth hurts huh?

then why is south africa in that report? did i write it?
ANC is the most supported party because blacks are the most populated race in south africa. and ANC uses RACE, APARTHEID STRUGGLE and RIGGING to deceive the blacks, so it qualifies as a one party democracy. duhhhh!!!!!
honestly, i don't give a f*ck bout your democracy but you need to shut up bout ours. cos you are making baseless points.
simple

Msauza: Every country has crime, whether true or pseudo democratic.

Here are the signs that one country has a pseudo democracy;

-High activities of rebels and insugency wrong
-Rigging of votes
-Military coups - we've moved beyond it
-Dictatorship and authoritarianism - we've moved beyond that
-[s]Harassment and killing of civilians by military for no good cause[/s] - wrong

oh my God, what do they teach in those beautiful schools of yours. you people just keep showing how dull you are

here's the true meaning of pseudo democracy:
Pseudo-Democratic: describes a political system which calls itself democratic, but offers no real choice for the citizens. This lack of choice can come from limited amount of diverse parties eligible for a vote, cemented power structures which are not really affected by any vote, no availability of a voting option "none of the above" for voters who favour change to the current political landscape, no direct democratic means.

now tell me how south africa, England etc is not a pseudo democracy
http://www.politicsweb.co.za/politicsweb/view/politicsweb/en/page72308?oid=96692&sn=Marketingweb%20detail
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/feb/18/devolution-england-pseudo-democracy

go back to school cos clearly you still have a lot to learn in life.

Msauza: I cannot see your argument anymore. SA is a multi party democracy and everybody including myself has the right to form a political party which can partake on the elections. Every party has its own president who will likely become the president of the country should they win the election.

shut up. south africa does not practice true democracy. your democracy is a one party democracy. therefore does not qualify for a true democracy.

go to page 3
http://www.cjdhr.org/2010-06/Valery-Ferim.pdf

so stop fooling yourself.

Msauza: Besides, Zuma was proven not guilty by the court of law. In SA you are not a criminal nor rapist until proven so by the court of law. The judgement of the court ruled out that there was a sufficient information that Zuma's r.ape charges were inspired by political foul play by his rivals in the ANC. The woman behaviour was sexually provocative and proven to be staged rape.

dude shut up. south African has no democracy. how can you elect someone who was facing charges of corruption, fraud and money laundering relating to a multi-billion dollar 1999 arms deal if he was not imposed on you?. and we all know the court acquitting him does not really prove his true innocence. do you know how many murderers have been freed by the court?

in your own words you admitted he was tempted and he's only human:
"that lady visited Zuma at his house and walked about the house Unclad after she had bath. She then afterwards asked Zuma for body massage, for which Zuma voluntarily offered to do it. Zuma is a human being who has sexually feelings just like me and you. Can you ever imagine what will happen from massaging a Unclad woman".

guy south africa does not have any democracy and i can prove it
http://www.politicsweb.co.za/politicsweb/view/politicsweb/en/page72308?oid=261675&sn=Detail&pid=72308

http://m.news24.com/news24/MyNews24/YourStory/Is-South-Africa-a-democracy-20110523

http://www.therightperspective.org/2011/02/26/when-will-democracy-come-to-south-africa/

this shows how south africans live on falsehood and are liars.

please can you give us any proof of recent vote rigging by Jonathan's administration or else it is your country that has a lot to learn from our democracy. s.tupid fellow

Msauza: We are speaking the current and here you are on about the history. Did Nigeria ever managed to achieve true democracy since its independence? Don't tell me about corruption, because it is just another form of crime termed embezzlement. SA after 1994 did manage to achieve true democracy and that's a fact.

my friend will you sharaap. This is one reason why i hate south africans. At least we don't deny we have problems.

ANC riggs election and uses the race card to get more support from the S.TUPID blacks.
http://www.stormfront.org/forum/t275548/
http://www.politicsweb.co.za/politicsweb/view/politicsweb/en/page71619?oid=348083&sn=Detail&pid=71619
http://www.bdlive.co.za/blogs/politics/2013/04/12/anc-may-want-to-play-apartheid-card-in-2014-election
http://www.bdlive.co.za/opinion/2012/12/18/no-winners-if-anc-elections-continue-to-be-held-in-this-way

and you are a big f.ool. Whether you take aid to fund infrastructure or not, aid is aid and it's a shame for such a country to be crying over aid. For your information, SA still receives aid because your government is too corrupt to fund social problems itself, Britain only said it would cut aid by 2015.

You are a shameless liar and an i:diot to abuse other countries when yours is as rotten as a dead rat.

south africans are liars and deceitful but you can only deceive others not Nigerians

Msauza: America saw that you were just a charity case who failed to look after himself even five decades after independence.

so that's your defense now. It's no longer about being a puppet?
So it would mean that with all your development and bouyant economy, YOUR COUNTRY IS STILL A CHARITY CASE that can't take care of itself after apatheid for still recieving aid money.
South africans were even begging UK when they threatened to cut aid to your country.

So while we were telling them to go to hell with their aid, you were begging them to keep paying.

Don't throw stones if you live in a glass house boy... Didn't your mama teach you better than that?

Msauza: Enactment of Laws in SA do not just pass without being referred to the Constitutional Court to prove their constituency before being signed by the president. Any law found to contravene the provisions of the constitution as the supreme law of the country will be deemed null and void. That's how true democracy work my friend.

wrong!! That's according to your type of democracy.

Democracyis not a sharply defined form of government that would need to be implemented in just one and no other way. Both in theoryand in practice there are as many systems of democracy than democratic countries. Nevertheless there are some general features as well as some groups of democratic systems that may be distinguished from each other.

You need to educate yourself a lot more and try leaving your enclave before you go about embarassing youself. Life doesn't evolve around south africa

We have our own system of democracy just like you have yours. So stay the f*ck out of ours.

That's why Naijapikingidi accused you south africans of always claiming false informations as fact.

Msauza: You are not a puppet, yet you will become Americas biggest beneficiary of $7billion charity case to build powerstations that your leaders failed to construct for many decades. Here you want to boast to us about your possible procurement of Aircraft carriers. Is that not hypocrisy of the highest order?

and would you call Israel a puppet? Or egypt just cos they receive aid money.

Go and make your research, we never begged for US help or aid. Our leaders even told them to go to hell with their aid money after they threatened to cut aid if they approve the anti gay bill.

Forget what Obam said, he doesn't have any relationship with Nigeria. It's just business.

Fact is that there's too much interest in Nigeria due to our due take over from you. And america doesn't want to be left out.

Am challenging you to look for any source that says Nigeria asks for money from US to fix any of ou problems.

This is the problem with south africans. You lack analytical skills to evaluate anything, which is the reason for your regular copy and paste attitude.

patriot4: Best decision we have ever taken, now the whole of Africa will be aware that Nigeria is no western puppet. Nigeria rated Africa's AU over european ICC. Now the word is going aroud, how long before the remaining African countries follow ? Pan Africanism is born again !
HRW and the west can keep blabling, we are not listening !
Here we go !

Seriously, i was all smiles when our government said they respect AU's decision to reject ICC arrest warrant on Basir.
i didn't even know AU had rejected his arrest. And one fake Nigeria wanna be country (in terms of african politics) were still scared to receive him.

what excuse do they have when they support oppressive regimes. That's cowardice if you ask me.

makes me wonder what they build the designer weapons for

zetdee: There is massive rigging in Nigerian elections. NIGERIA IS NOT A DEMOCRACY. Obansanjo was installed as president despite clear proof of vote rigging.

mr HRW, what is the essence of posting a 2003 report in 2013? does it mean that Nigeria's democracy has grown that the international community commended president Jonathan for the way it was conducted?

posting a 10 year old report shows you have no case. focus on building your own democracy while we build ours.

lemme ask you? if a war was to break out between south africa and Nigeria, who do you think will have more support? who do you think has more influence even within your SADC?

well we all know the answer to that. just in case your brain is too slow to grasp, it NIGERIA.

so sharaap about democracy and focus on learning how to use you designer hardware. cowards

zetdee: NIGERIA IS A PSEUDO DEMOCRACY.
Changing looters is not a democracy, rigging elections is not a democracy.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVcIFa8Wdgw&feature=share

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmzZBcP2z4o&feature=related

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3XplOA8d6Y&feature=player_embedded

is south africa a democracy?
http://m.news24.com/news24/MyNews24/YourStory/Is-South-Africa-a-democracy-20110523

Democracy is a FALLACY in south africa
http://www.politicsweb.co.za/politicsweb/view/politicsweb/en/page72308?oid=261675&sn=Detail&pid=72308

http://www.therightperspective.org/2011/02/26/when-will-democracy-come-to-south-africa/

will you stop posting stuff you are not free from. we beat you in military and you come up with this crap as if your country has true democracy. go to sleep abeg. mumu pikin

Msauza: South Africa is a true democracy established by Nelson Mandela. Not just fancy buildings.

my friend will you sharaap already if you don't have anything reasonable to say.

your hypocritical democrazy that supports tyrants and dictators, cries foul when Nigeria overrides you in deposing them.

you've got no influence in Africa and we run Zimbabwe right under your nose

: http://envisionnigeria.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&catid=10&id=1861&Itemid=136

http://www.zimbabweprimeminister.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=742:pm-tsvangirai-meets-gabon-nigeria-presidents&catid=30:prime-minister-issues&Itemid=88

our democracy may not be as strong as yours, but we run this continent militarily and politically while you play catch up

Donian007: NEWS: SUDANESE PRESIDENT OMAR AL BASHAR ARRIVES AND RECIEVED IN NIGERIA DESPITE ICCJ ARREST WARRANT AS HRW CRY FOUL. DEBATE ONGOING IN SOME RADIO STATIONS AND NIGERIANS SPEAK TO SUPPORT HIS VISIT, ASK'S ICCJ TO ARREST HIM IN SUDAN. NOTE: SOUTH AFRICA, CAR, UGANDA, RWANDA ALL PLEDGED TO ARREST HIM IN CONTRAST TO AU's DECISION. WHAT DO YOU THINK?

Dem no well. Arrest a president of a soverign country. That's an act of war na.

If ICC wants to arrest him they should head to Sudan or wait for chicken south africa to do that when he manages to step foot there.

Msauza: No wonder their intervention in Africa is this minimal because they are afraid of being asked if their house is in order.

dude even when we were under military rule, we restored democracy in others. Our influence runs deep that even shangarai shuned SA and came to abuja to seek support for their election.

Very soon we'll be giving your president orders. Just wait and see

andrewza: So you admit nigeria supported france in installing their leader?

no. We decided on our own and since france and ecowas agreed on same resolution, it was right to work together.

You remind me of one S.TUPID craigB

andrewza: http://www.africanspotlight.com/2011/11/12/france-pledges-to-support-nigeria-in-fighting-boko-haram/

“Nigeria is France’s number one partner in the Sub-Sahara.

what do you expect him to say? brazil, Germany, US etc have said the same thing.

Did you hear of french troops or security personel on ground?

Or did you ear Nigeria begging for help from france?

Going by the news i'd say it's france that wants to lick our a*s. Even when their citizens were kidnapped and moved in to Nigeria, their troops could not even near our boarder.

It's such low level of intelligence you people have that cause you to fail in your operations.

andrewza: lets see, in ivory coast who did nigeria back, Sa who wanted there to be a diplomatic outcome or france who used force to install a government of their choosing.

are you purposely trying to be ignorant or it's your S.TUPIDITY at play?

nigeria supported Gbagbo be deposed cos we never had good relationship with Gbagbo, just like the case of ghaddafi.

ACM10: Are you this allergic to criticism? Nigeria's military is equipped with antiquated hardwares. Your bad manners can only exceed your bad manner.

we are not alergic to criticisms but we don't tolerate one from an ignorant and silly critic.

Aside from the shilka, which of the hardware there is "antiquated"? And which of them is not used my world military powers till date? Pls answer if you think you can criticize them.

jp philips: the problem with people like you is that you think there is a point to make, but with block heads there is none.
have you pondered to ask yourself the kinda people you talk with here, have u ever imagined you may be gisting with a high school drop out?

did you read the story of the girl who said she was desperate to meet one nairalander, in the end it turned out the guy is a butcher, a petty meat seller.
those are the caliber of peeps you are arguing with, those are the peeps you waste your energy and education to enlighten and you cannot get any gratitude for ur efforts but insult.

i wonder why it doesnt bother you.

and the problem with people like you is that you think with your fingers instead of your brain.

Are you not a member of the Nairaland? What's the posibilities of you not being a dropout since all you've done here so far is insult people without making any intelligent comment.

If south africans are not threatened by Nigeri's military power, then tell me why whenever there's a thread about Nigerian military you people start to bring in SANDF.

You are the one that needs education.

South africa needs to redeem itself after you were disgraced in CAR by rag tag rebels that don't even have on helicopter before you can think of taking on Nigeria.

If militaries were to be ranked by experience and battles won, south africa will not even rank close to top 7.

Kenya will cripple your military with your designer hardware, not to talk of Nigeria

Kingsteve: I showed my friend (a lady, who has limited knowledge about military hardware) this thread...especially; the pics, and asked her what was her opinion about the military hardware on display.
The first thing she asked me was..."aren't these the weapons that Hitler used?", and I answered... "No, it is the Nigerian Military hardware on display"
I looked at her, and her jaw dropped in disbelief!
Go figure...

like you said.. "She has limited knowledge".

Do yourself a favour and find out the names of those hardwares and the world powers that are using them till date.. You'll be very surprised.

This is not all we have but hardwares that were recently upgraded and refurbished by the Nigerian Army (which is a shift from our former policy of always bringing in experts to do these things.

jp philips: Gun ship is a nickname for attack helicopters so it is not what you are thinking, calm down, no resources has been wasted yet. Lol

In modern warfare, gunships are used to neutralize heavy artilleries, tanks and Apc's, they equally provide aeriel support or escort for your ground forces or artilleries if you have any,

now, over the years, modern gun ships have not disappointed in that task. I read during the libya conflict that for some reasons, the gunships will be more efficient in takng out those artilleries than using jets.


Im not saying we dont have MIG gunship, i think i have seen one at NAF base ph, but the only difference here is the capability of yours vs that of your enemy.

In other words, the gun ships are actually the key not the muscle if i should borrow your door analogy,
i may not know why most millitaries prefer it that way cos im not a millitary strategist, but i am sure that is how it plays out most times.

Now if you wanna use an African country for example, SA has and manufactures a plethora of gunships including the rooivalks which recently is classed in tandem with the AH 64 Apache,

can you really say your T55 tanks are safe when your enemy is comming with rooivalks?

Take your time and research the model of tanks and APC's in ghaddafi's arsenal which were disgraced by those blazing birds, and yes at that time, ghaddafi's army were rated 2nd best in Africa.

The AH 64 apache is equally owned by the egyptian army another african country, boeing who happens to be the manufacturer has announced they can be armed with the hell fire missile and you want to be giant of Africa with T55 tanks in such scenario?


good luck with that!!

you are just ranting rubbish here. To think that Nigeria will engage your helicopters with tanks is hilarious. (we have better as our main battle tanks anyway)

first of all you'll need a place to launch your helicopters from, and then bypass our radars (since they are not stealth). Before then our satelites have picked your locations and move our AAA or SAMs to position to take out you helicopters.

And please don't talk about your grippen jets cos you don't have an aircraft carrier to move them close to our boarders.

Libya was rated second best because of hardware but were defeated by Chad. Which makes me question the ranking methods.

And to use a war of Libya against NATO and inside rebels(including defected generals and soldiers) as an example only exposes your S.TUPIDITY.
Libya was never a military power, they were like the Saudis that have many weapons but unqualified manpower.
It is mentality like yours that your generals used to send your boys to CAR. And see how it turned out.

Where were your designer hardware when seleka chased your troops out of CAR and took over their hardware for you to never return?

SA had a military during the apartheid regime and even at that they never won any war.

SANDF of today is a big joke with few bright generals and ex militants.

Good luck beleving you have an army while what you have are just fine hardwares but ill trained personnel and models to market them for you.

Am waiting for you to prove that my previous comment you quoted are baseless if you are as smart as you portray yourself.

jp philips: your ignorance is world class and pls dont ask me to refute ur obnoxious claims because i cannot aid the education of handkerchiefs like you.
where do you think you are? mama iyaro kai-kai joint?? OMG!!!

if your dead brain can't refute my claims then you have no reason to quote me and write jargons.

It's not a must to comment. So sharaap

scipher: most babies come into this world dropped on their heads, you were clearly thrown at the wall

andrewza: How could the french not say no?

French said yes to nigeria because you a french pupet following there orders. The french wanted seleka to take over.


You real are a fool.

this is why SA will always lag behind Nigeria in projecting power across Africa even if you build 1 million nuclear bombs.

You people have no clue about the continent.

Nigeria a ''French puppet''

Thiza: SANDF

liar liar liar

this is american army in afghanistan.

Mike..ZA:
Deployment?,SA has proven that in the Bush war. You can't run a war in a foreign country without,massive supplies. Your 66666666666666 guns won't be having any Italian made rounds. GET IT? I know you get it,you probably screaming "CHINEKE 000!!!!!" now LOL.

sorry you used the wrong scenario as example. we have been involved in conflicts even before independence till 2013, so we can give you examples of our capabilities till date.

i can bet that 90% of men that fought during the bush war are now retired or acting as advisers.

we are talking of SANDF of today that is a mixture of ex militants that became senior officers. thereby bringing their unprofessional and below par method of running your military. proof is CAR where you were too scared to retaliate ... i trust 9ja for that one. cos we know what would have happened.

SANDF of now is the dead version of SADF, and no matter the weapons you build, it is the ability of the men to use them that counts. even kenya will wipe SANDF with ease.

Mike..ZA:
Heart Attack LOL!!!!!!!

oh! So it's ok for you people to ask irrelivant questions but not okay for someone else abi?

Please provide the link and pic where your regular soldiers were buried with full military honors or i'll take it you just dig pits and throw them in.

saengine: Oh and P.S before you get carried away. The SA pic was not a funeral. That was a pic of the bodies arriving at Waterkloof airforce base, from which seperate funerals with military honours were held.

pictures or links pleeaase... As you also requested.

agaugust: golden casket, full military honours...gun salutes...heroe's farewell...makes you envy the fallen soldier !

[img]http://3.bp..com/-ToosoEmXHnI/T0yhfqt7TlI/AAAAAAAACyY/qvtWlIVSYS4/s1600/ojukwus-body.jpg[/img]

@saengine
notice they are not dressed in their regular uniforms. full honor

Mike..ZA:
Well we don't have "traditional warriors" in SA. Let's talk about modern warfare,which is moving away from the traditional hand to hand,or WW1 trench warfare to long range killing. Which you don't have to see your enemy to kill him. But I still don't understand why some armies like your Nigerian armed forces,are still getting or producing short range weapons in the 21st century.

we don't need them cos we can watch your positions from a thousand miles and counter your long rang weapons my moving closer from another front while a decoy engages you. game over.

curtsey of spy satellite and balloons.

Mike..ZA:
Would it be cool if I upload,pictures of those guys who dance with Hyenas in Nigeria. An equivalent of a sangoma in Nigeria.

for your info, the hyena guys are not herbalist or traditionalists, they are just hustlers. There's a very big difference.

You must have poor sense of humour if you didn't see the comeback joke in that post.

No be everything be fight.