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are the parties communist? Yes so did the SADF end communism? no!

jln115:
Were they democratically elected? Yes! Are their economies more capitalist leaning? Yes!

Ok then EOD

democracies were one party has been ruling since independence i here you. and for your information communist parties operate in democratic governments. A state in India Kerala is being ruled by a communist party

jln115:
except both are more capitalist leaning... Especially Namibia.... And both are democracies

black colonisers? dude you are a regular trevor noah.

like i said before thank God you have acknowledged your ancestors dirty past we are making progress.

i've never denied the fact that africans were killing africans but you trying to sweep it under the carpet of we are all guilty won't fly.

jln115:
I've acknowledged the injustice of white colonisers in Africa..... It just seem you can't do the same for Black colonisers

All I pointed out was both White settlers and Black Bantu settlers are both invaders of SA, that's what you don't want to acknowledge.

yeah that's why both countries have been ruled by the same political parties with communist leanings since independence

jln115:
yeah the fact that they have democratically elected governments

moors (africans) tried to take european lands the spanish drove them off no issues there

you are trying to muddle up the argument. i said european invaders took african lands full stop. all this africans too did it is just you grasping at straws.

i never justified anything you are the one finding it hard to acknowledge an injustice.

jln115:
- Africans and Asians invaded Europe and sold white Europeans as slaves in North Africa.......Google Barbary slave trade.

- Black Africans had and sold other black Africans as slaves for centuries.

Don't act like us Whiteys were the only evil in this world bru

You continue to justify the horrendous acts by Bantu invaders in SA simply because they are black..... Saying its ok because they are "African"

they did? please where is your evidence?

jln115:
no but they did drive communists out of those countries..... Hence they are democratic

your words not mine

jln115:
you said the SADF didn't achieve any of their objectives....in other words they lost

you admit white invaders stole locals land that good we are making progress.

Blacks were killing each other on their continent same as Europeans same as Asians Same as Native Americans but no prizes for guessing which of the aforementioned groups exported their "talents" to other continents.

plus what you are saying would be like if the Japanese were justifying what they did to the chinese before and during the second world war. after all they could just say why are you upset y'all have been killing yourselves for centuries before we got here.

jln115:
You: White South Africans are invaders and stole land.

Me:Yeah true, but so did Bantu people

You: it's OK because they are black

yeah because the Chinese and Cubans stopped being communist dude give it a rest.

jln115:
In 1988 the SADF was a mere stone throw away from Luanda...... However due to the fall of the Soviet Union there was no real communist threat to justify the continued invasion of Angola

simple english you claimed i said you lost the war please show me where i said such a thing.

jln115:
you said the SADF didn't achieve any of its objectives.... Did you not?

did you change the leadership in those countries? no next

jln115:
in the entire 23 years border war only around 1791 SADF soldiers were KIA... That's less than 100 a year..... Compare that to 11400 SWAPO, 5000 Cubans, 10000+ FAPLA.... You get my drift

And is Namibia communist? Is Angola communist?

you are really confused. i've been consistent from the first point i made till now. you on the other hand have been shifting goalposts from mphumalanga to the north pole.

Me: whites settled and stole Africans land

You: Africans did the same

Me: Yes just like Europeans but Asians, Africans and other people didn't come and do in europe what you did to Africans

You: we are all children of mama afrika!

Me: oh really? really funny how y'all forget that when dealing with Zims, Somalians, Nigerians etc.

jln115:
just pointing out your own hypocrisy

please show the post where i said you lost the war?

jln115:
Oh..... So we've gone from the SADF losing the war to a stalemate?

but but the SADF won the war na? can't you see the SA flag in windhoek and the potrait of Jonas Savimbi as the former president of Angola?

A war that your soldiers died for nothing but to maintain status quo.

obaaderemi:
They could not displace FAPLa and MPLA from Luanda. That's how shoddy the whole thing was. Like America in Vietnam.

if the bold is true then Kiki really messed up because she has given the impression that she put her safety on the line for the award winning story.

it's one thing to criticize government but if you yourself making the criticism is behaving in an unethical manner what moral right would we then have for calling out government?

that's why a lot of people are so disillusioned with some "activists" in this country. you're not sure if it's sincere or just for clout.

Sanchez01:
Kiki Mordi didn't sideline her 'colleague'. Oge Obi conceptualized, pitched, researched and co-produced the investigate piece but only invited Kiki Mordi to do the TV narration.

Kiki Mordi was never in any UNILAG office. That was Oge Obi. What's worse is that she has been receiving awards and claiming her university experience led her into the documentary.

Kiki Mordi is not the type to venture into investigate journalism. She is not that creative. What's worse, she never gave a dime to Oge from the thousands of Dollars grants won. Not a dime!

The irony for me is that she is a feminist who supposedly support females but unfortunately profits off them.

There's something called stalemate. read up on it.

jln115:
How do you lose a war without losing a battle?

really? so why are you South Africans so mad at Nigerians that settle in your country? after all we are children of mother Africa according to you

jln115:
All humans come from Africa.........historical Fact FYI So what now?

still hasn't responded to Ruona's accusations though.

Abdulazeez99:
Journalist Kiki Mordi has responded to an allegation by her colleague Ruona Meyer that she has been dishonestly taking all the credits for the #SexForGrades project which exposed sexual harassment in Nigerian varsities, Igbere TV reports.

Ms Mordi has won several awards for the story published by BBC Africa Eye in October 2019 using the University of Lagos as case study.

Following her latest recognition as winner of the 2020 Michael Elliott Award for African Storytelling over the project, Meyer tweeted on Thursday that Mordi should share the prize money with a female colleague simply named O. O. whom she claimed pitched the story and did the underground work.



https://twitter.com/RGAMeyer/status/1336875837635915776?s=20

Mordi responded, saying Meyer has been bitter towards her because she (Mordi) ended ties with Meyer.



https://twitter.com/kikimordi/status/1336966871267094529?s=19

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bantus are indigenous to the continent whites are not.

saxons, guals, vikings, normans all invaded and killed each other but they are all Europeans.

try another excuse rafiki.

jln115:
And Bantu invaders came uninvited to South Africa and took the locals land and forced them to live without it ever since.............historical fact actually

doesn't matter how many battles you won if you didn't win war.

jln115:
My narrative is biased to the facts mate.............name just one battle the SADF lost in the whole 23 years of the Border War.......just one

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meaning your narrative of the war will be subject to your biases and family loyalty.

jln115:
Dude my Dad, Uncles and cousins were in the SADF.........there isn't anything you can teach me about the Border War

stop trying to be clever by half. if i use your logic i can also say japanese and chinese are africans.

dutch and english settlers invaders came uninvited to the south cape took the locals land and have forced them to live with it ever since.

QED

jln115:
Uhm............All humans came from Africa!! so what now?

did Namibia gain independence? Yes! Was MPLA victories and UNITA eventually defeated? Yes

jln115:
is Angola communist? Is Namibia communist?....... No?.... OK then objective met

a conflict that didn't achieve any of its objectives just a South African version of the Vietnam War.

jln115:
Facts mate look it up!

In the entire Border War the SADF didn't lose a single battle!

facts you mean cos the facts of the matter are that whites came to the south cape uninvited i might add to settle and take land from the people treating the people just barely better than animals. there was no cumbaya moment were everyone agreed to live as one. the blacks rightly for fought for the abolishment of apartheid. if not for the pragmatism of the ANC leaders like Mandela all the whites in the country should have been driven out like the uninvited guests invaders they were

Austine1213:
From an outsider perspective, that's your opinion

In South Africa whites are as South African as blacks, equal rights, same standing.

keep saying that to yourself if it makes you sleep well at night

Austine1213:
Referendum by over 60% decided the end of apartheid

lol yeah right come with another story pal

jln115:
Have you never heard of the Border War? Cuba sent 50 000 men to Angola...........and got absolutely slaughtered by the SADF

dude are you having a laugh you are comparing blood thirsty terrorists to freedom fighters battling for rights to their own land and freedom?

Austine1213:
They were suppose to fight apartheid not infrastructure ment for the country to function!

In your view when terrorist bmbed a shopping center in Kenya it was OK,

Act like a terrorist, South like a terrorist you are classified a terrorist, Infact the anc was a pwawn in cold war between Russia n US,

bantus were born on the continent whites weren't

jln115:
And so are all the Black Bantu people then in that case

white are illegal immigrants who took land from the local population fact!

jln115:
Its because Whites are SAn not illegal foreigners

the ANC and other freedom fighters don't forget cuba was also willing to provide men and ammunition.

jln115:
War from whom?