Janosky:

Background perspective to your main question on Romans 11:34-36.
The important question is did Jesus use his Father's name Jehovah,in the New Testament?
John 17:6,11,12,26 , Jesus says Yes.
John 10:25, Jesus works were done in his Father's name.
That means during Jesus earthly ministry, his Father's name Jehovah was well known.
Also he quoted from the old testament @ Mark 12:29-30 etc he called Jehovah not LORD.

Acts 15:14 & John 17:6,11,12,26, the disciples knew & used Jehovah's name.
The divine name was in the original manuscripts scrolls used in Jesus/the disciples time, John 17:6,11-12,26 is key.
Please compare Romans 11:34 &
1 Corinthians 2:16.
16 " For who has known the mind of THE LORD JEHOVAH that he may teach him? But we do have the mind of The Messiah."

Romans 11:34-36 Aramaic Bible.
34For who has known the mind of THE LORD JEHOVAH, or who has been a counselor to him? 35And who has first given to him and then has received from him? 36Because all is from him, and in him, and all is by him, that to him would be praises and blessings to the eternity of eternities. Amen."
The context of the entire chapter eleven, proven that:
Verse 34: The Lord there is Jehovah, the God & Father of Jesus Christ in heaven & earth.
John 20:17. Rev 3:5,12.

Verse 35: Nobody has first given anything to Jehovah.
Jesus the firstborn of every creature & everyone in heaven & earth owes their name to Jehovah,the God & Father of Jesus.
Ephesians 1:3. 3:14-15. 4:6.

Verse 36:
ALL is from Jehovah the Father of ALL.
Jesus came into existence through his Father.
Colossians 1:15 & Romans 11:36. Eph 1:3.

Shalom.

Colossians 1:16

For by Him all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. All things were created through Him and for Him.

Romans 11:34-36

[34] “For who has known the mind of the Lord? Or who has become His counselor?”

[35]“Or who has first given to Him And it shall be repaid to him?”

[36] For of Him and through Him and to Him are all things, to whom be glory forever. Amen.

Who is in perspective regarding the exposition above

838eigt:
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Bro, what's your take on the op?

Dtruthspeaker:


That was a Personal Request from Son to His Father, it is of no business of ours.

Wow

Are u a Christian?

DappaD:
OP, you keep badgering Daniel 4:17 everywhere as if you really understand what the Scripture means. God definitely rules in the affairs of men but NOT all men because not everyone is subjecting themselves to his authority.
“God-rule” is known as Theocracy which puts Jehovah as the Universal Head, before Jesus his Son as head over the congregation of God’s people(Ephesians 1:22) so the “men” whom God is ruling are those in the congregation who are doing his will. Matthew 12:49-50, Luke 11:28

As for the rest of the men who reject God’s rule, they’ve invented all sorts of governments that go contrary to God’s way of ruling. That’s why you have democracy, monarchy, communism, oligarchy—forms of governments that span across different nations and empires. But God’s Word says that soon his own Kingdom will demolish and completely extinguish all those worthless forms of governments(Daniel 2:44) that do nothing but bring pain and suffering to mankind(Ecclesiastes 8:9, Revelation 11:18) but for now he is tolerating them to have their way over the earth. Romans 13:1-2

That’s why Jesus had nothing to do with the earthly kingdoms/governments in his day(John 6:15) because their source of ruling is from Satan the Devil(Luke 4:6, John 12:31) and that his own Kingdom was no part of this world. John 18:36

So if you can’t take Jesus’ word for it, I have no further words for you. Perhaps you’re among those looting national treasury or benefiting from those who are so you want to deceive yourself that God is the one in charge while you commit dastardly deeds and you’re very upset that someone is calling you out and telling you that you’re operating under Satan’s authority. Revelation 12:9

I have one question for you though. If the governments of the earth are controlled by God, why would the “kings of the earth” and high-ranking men want to fight the Lamb, Jesus Christ? Revelation 16:14-16, 17:14, 19:15-21
Does that make any sense to you?

Daniel 4:17
[17] ‘This decision is by the decree of the watchers, And the sentence by the word of the holy ones, In order that the living may know That the Most High rules in the kingdom of men, Gives it to whomever He will, And sets over it the lowest of men.’

John 17:5

And now, O Father, glorify Me together with Yourself, with the glory which I had with You before the world was.

Jesus had Glory with the Father before The world began

How do you understand this verse?

John 12:44-46

[44] Then Jesus cried out and said, “He who believes in Me, believes not in Me but in Him who sent Me.
[45] And he who sees Me sees Him who sent Me.
[46] I have come as a light into the world, that whoever believes in Me should not abide in darkness.

Jesus is That God

John 6:44-45

[44]No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him; and I will raise him up at the last day.

[45]It is written in the prophets, ‘And they shall all be taught by God.’ Therefore everyone who has heard and learned from the Father comes to Me.

So what is the work of God? How can I do Gods work?

The Jews asked Jesus this question in the Bible




[28]Then they said to Him, “What shall we do, that we may work the works of God?”

John 6:28

Below is what the Lord Jesus told them:

Jesus answered and said to them, “This is the work of God, that you believe in Him whom He sent.”
John 6:29

You see, believing in JESUS is the work of God; Halleluyah

Who Initiates a Man's Salvation?

Is it God or the man?

If it is God, does that mean God has saved all men or some? Can a man God has saved refuse the salvation? I need examples in scripture

If it is man who Initiates the salvation, then salvation ceases to be a gift contrary to Ephesians 2:8

Let's have your say

DappaD:
How convenient for you to forcefully input ‘God’ into Acts 20:28c.

How miserable you look in denying the obvious

Jesus is God, go and die!

GOD'S BLOOD (JESUS CHRIST IS GOD)!

Acts 20:28

Therefore take heed to yourselves and to all the flock, among which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to shepherd the church of God which He (GOD) purchased with His own blood.

Does God have blood?

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"Behold, He is coming with clouds, and every eye will see Him, even they who pierced Him. And all the tribes of the earth will mourn because of Him. Even so, Amen. “I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End,” says the Lord, “who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.” - Revelation 1:7-8

"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God. All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made... And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth."

You are blessed

In Isaiah 9:6, the Son that was prophesied to be born would be called Everlasting Father and Mighty God.

JWs say yes, Jesus is only a Mighty God and that He is not the Almighty God.

Jeremiah in his prayer cures this mischief

Jeremiah ascribes the term mighty God to the creator . The Mighty God is the Almighty God; God is One

Jeremiah 32:16-18

[16]“Now when I had delivered the purchase deed to Baruch the son of Neriah, I prayed to the Lord, saying:

[17]‘Ah, Lord God! Behold, You have made the heavens and the earth by Your great power and outstretched arm. There is nothing too hard for You.

[18]You show lovingkindness to thousands, and repay the iniquity of the fathers into the bosom of their children after them—the Great, the Mighty God, whose name is the Lord of hosts.

Halleluyah

Hardgun:
No

Why na

Two months after breakup
She pays you a surprise visit and prepares this 'sumptuous' stew for you

Will you eat it?

I need spirit-filled sons of God on a WhatsApp platform to feast on the word of God.

If interested, kindly drop your WhatsApp contact

Warning: Only Sons of God!

davidinchrist:


Hmm, I see your point. I've just done a quick search in the Bible, and I was just getting to realize that the word Soul is used many times to mean two main things among others:
1. A person's Life or Existence in total. Matthew 16:26
2. Will, emotion, mind (according to my previous post).

*Also, I think it's used somewhat synonymous with the word 'Person': Every soul means Everybody, Everyone... E.g: Act 3:23 KJV.

Cos the Spirit is the real Man: God's Image;

*We are Spirits (God created us in his own image, God is Spirit).

*We have a Soul each (As in: Hebrew 4:12 and 1 Thess 5:23 type of context; my previous post).

*We live in the Body to interact with the physical world: when the body dies our spirits/souls remain: with God or eternal punishment.

Anyway, I think the main thing is to yield every part of our existence to God; not minding too much about the exact names given to the parts scripturally.

Matthew 16:26 KJV
For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own Soul? or what shall a man give in exchange for his Soul? (Soul = Someone's Life or Existence)

May Jesus Bless You.

Amen

*QUESTION*
What is the soul? We know a man is made up of the spirit, soul and body. The spirit is the inner man and the body is the flesh. Which part is the soul? I have heard many men of God say the soul is the mind, but read what Jesus says in

Matthew 22:36-40
36 “Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?”

37 Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with *all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind*.’[a] 38 This is the first and greatest commandment.

You can see, Jesus distinguished the soul from the mind. What then is your understanding of the soul?

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Exactly bro

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OTHERS: Should not be the first son

But what is wrong with a first son?

Jesus sure is the father

I write this to appeal to the conscience of Mr Seun Osewa, owner of Nairaland. I have been to the Islam section and seen the place is made strictly for Muslims and respectfully, i believe if something like that is than for Christians here, it will be fair and ensure religious peace/freedom/tolerance on this site.

Fellow Christians, kindly type signed to attach your signature to this petetion. We know Seun to be a very democratic mind, so will positively consider our petetion.

Please, get us a Christianity section.
Thank you.

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Yeah this question sounds crazy but it came to my mind

There many churches and religions out there but which church's girls is it easiest to sex with? The ceheapest etc based on your experience?

bingbagbo:
JW is a cult

I tell you brother

godofuck231:
No wonder, they are the most nut crazy group

Facts Jehovah’s Witnesses Won’t Tell You When Calling at Your Door

By: The John Ankerberg Show

The Watchtower Bible & Tract Society headquartered in Brooklyn, New York, USA, was founded over 100 years ago by Charles Taze Russell, who had no theological training, but adopted the title, “Pastor”. His ideas were strange right from the beginning.

Early Watchtower magazines (3/15/1913 & 1/15/1912) reveal that he believed a person’s desire to worship God was due to the shape of their brain. He believed that if a dog’s head were shaped like a man’s, the dog would think like a man!

He offered health advice too, believing appendicitis and typhoid fever were caused by “biting worms in the colon”.

He sold “miracle wheat” at greatly inflated prices. Despite all this, his followers then (and now) believed that he was God’s “faithful and discreet slave” referred to in Matthew 24:45. After his death, his legacy, the Watch Tower organization became this sole channel for God in the eyes of its followers.

JEHOVAH’S WITNESSES BELIEVE & TEACH
THAT Jesus Christ (who is Michael the Archangel in their doctrine) is mediator for only a small, elite, group within their ranks called the “anointed remnant”. Others must come to this group who control the organization and earn their salvation by absolute obedience to it.

THAT all religions except their’s are of Satan, and your Pastor or Priest is under the Devil’s control.
THAT the Watchtower Society is the only source of truth on earth today, and all churches teach error and will be destroyed at Armageddon.
THAT the cross is a pagan symbol of sex worship, and that all buildings or persons display­ing the cross are likewise pagan. Jehovah’s Witnesses deny that Jesus died on the cross. However, “new light” in the Watchtower Magazine has admitted they are not certain about the cross, but will continue to deny it anyway.

THAT no one goes to heaven but 144,000 Jehovah’s Witnesses, and your soul will be destroyed if you refuse to join their organization.

THAT the Christ child was only an “IT”, not a “HE”. See the New World Translation, Luke 2:16,17.


THAT Jesus was not the Christ (or Messiah) until age 30, even though their own bible says in Luke 2:11, “because there was born to you today a Savior, who is Christ the Lord.”

THAT after Jesus was buried in the tomb, Jehovah dissolved his body into gasses and it disappeared forever.

THAT Jesus rose invisibly in three days, so Jehovah had to “materialize” a fake body for him complete with fake nail prints so His disciples would believe it was really Jesus risen.

THAT Armageddon and Christ’s second coming were foretold to happen in 1874, 1914, 1925 and 1975 by this “non-prophet” organization.

THAT when Christ failed to show up in 1914 The Society claimed in later years that He had come—invisibly—of course, and all Jehovah’s Witnesses believe this today.

THAT Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob etc., were to be back on earth as perfect humans in 1925. The Society built a palatial home for them BUT, when the patriarchs failed to show up, the President of the Society moved in.

THAT their light gets “brighter and brighter”, allowing for the many changes and “about faces” on their doctrines. Yesterday’s error is today’s “truth”. Often the “light” bounces back and forth from old to new views and back again! Does real light return to darkness?

THAT the Watchtower Society and its followers are all prophets of God today and the Governing Body is directed by angels from God.

THAT salvation for Society members consists of doing the good works of placing Watch­tower books and magazines and winning converts.

THAT soon Jehovah God will become a
GRANDFATHER and Jesus will be promoted to “EVERLASTING FATHER”!

THAT Jehovah God is not omnipresent, but still Almighty. Think! How can this be?


They have NOT BEEN TOLD —By the leadership of the Society

THAT when they translated their New World Translation of the Bible they deliberately altered almost every scripture on the Deity of Christ, to make him only a creature.

THAT the Society used a translation by a SPIRIT MEDIUM, Johannes Greber, to support their rendering of John 1:1 with full knowledge that his sources were DEMONIC. Greber was exposed in the Feb. 15/56 W.T. However in 1961 they released a translation based on his occult one then denied they knew what they were doing on page 31 of the Apr. 1, 1983 Watchtower!

THAT none of their “translating committee” knew Biblical Greek or Hebrew. No scholars at all.

THAT Fred Franz, who for many years headed the Society, perjured himself under oath in Scotland in a court trial, by saying he could read Hebrew, and then failing a simple Hebrew test.


THAT the following encyclopedias consider the name “JEHOVAH” to be FALSE Merits Student Enc.; Encyclopedia Americana; The Jewish Encyclopedia; Encyclopedia Interna­tional, The Interpreters Dictionary of the Bible; The New Catholic Encyclopedia; The Univer­sal Jewish Encyclopedia, etc.

Jehovah’s Witness’s own “Aid” book admits on pages 884 & 885 that “Jehovah” was first recorded by a Catholic monk about 700 years ago!

THAT the date 1874 was taught for Christ’s invisible presence by the Society until l929. (See their book, “Prophecy”, p. 65. sold until 1941. Also WT. Jan 1, 1924, p. 5.)

THAT top executives of the Society have admitted under oath that they forced their mem­bers to accept false prophecies or face disfellowshipping and be found worthy of death.

THAT true salvation is FREE (Ephesians 2: 8 & 9), and consists of receiving Christ as your Savior. (John 1:12 , John 6: 28, 29).


In Summary
We find the Watchtower Society practicing their belief that it is proper to deceive people. But they say this really isn’t lying. Why? Because the Society has a different definition of lying than most of us. In their book “AID TO BIBLE UNDERSTANDING” under the word “LIE” we read:
Lying generally involves saying something false to a person who is ENTITLED to know the truth….
While malicious lying is definitely condemned in the Bible, this does not mean that a person is under obligation to divulge truthful information to people who are not entitled to it.
Of course it is the Watchtower leaders that decide WHO deserves to know the truth.
This article was written by by Lorri MacGregor, ©June 1999 for The John Ankerberg Show.

In Colossians 1:16 the bible says All things were created by Jesus Christ and For Jesus Christ.

The Jehovah's witnesses have corrupted this and claim Jehovah first created Jesus Christ and Jesus Christ created all other things

But what does God say about How he created the universe?

Let's hear

Isaiah 48:12-14

12 “Listen to Me, O Jacob,
And Israel, My called:
I am He, I am the First,
I am also the Last.
13 Indeed My hand has laid the foundation of the earth,
And My right hand has stretched out the heavens;
When I call to them,
They stand up together.
14 “All of you, assemble yourselves, and hear!
Who among them has declared these things?
The Lord loves him;
He shall do His pleasure on Babylon,
And His arm shall be against the Chaldeans.

Shame onto JWs.

God created all things by himself and for himself.

YHWH is JESUS Christ

Cc:
Bin Gbagbo
Janosky
Precious

Maximus69:

It's like your abode is too far from the electric transformer, shey? Abeg go and give it a hug!

Whether JEHOVAH or Jesus name, what matters now is result! Matthew 5:14-16

If JEHOVAH is of little or no significant beside Jesus, then it's the result that will judge who is on the right path according to Jesus himself!

So Jesus prayed for his followers to form a happy global family of peace-loving worshippers all having one thought! John 13:34-35, 17:20-23 compared to Romans 15:5-6, 1Corinthians 1:10, Ephesians 4:3

And only Jehovah's Witnesses organization succeeded in doing so, and your brother said JWs are Cults/AntiChrist,

Who is the winner, Satan {the owner of Antichrists group} or Jesus?

Period!

Lol, wisdom is seriously lacking

Women can be very funny and dangerous
A woman would employ any method at all
Just to sleep with him


Share your experiences
What has been your funniest and did u fall for it?

Maximus69:


So if we are to go by the words of Jesus found inside the Bible {John 13:34-35, 17:20-23}

Who is the winner, Jesus or Satan?

Why don't you address the OP?
Why are you not using the name of Jesus in all your deeds and words as stated in Colossians 3:17 but ur own chosen name of jehovah

Janosky:


@1)
Revelation 3:21
To him that overcometh will I grant to sit
with me in my throne, even as I also
overcame, and am set down with my Father
in his throne."


@2)
Bing LYING Pharisee deceiving himself.
From heaven, your "Jesus almighty God" says his Father owns the throne he was permitted to sit on.
Your "almighty god" dey with him Papa for heaven.

*@3)
**Rev4:2,11 is the Almighty God YHWH, not Jesus his son in heaven.
Jesus calls YHWH our God. John 20:17.

@4)
Col1:16,Hebrew 1:1,2 YHWH created the universe "THROUGH him," Jesus...
.
1 Corinthians 8:6
yet for us there is but one God, the Father,
from whom all things came and for whom
we exist. And there is but one Lord, Jesus
Christ, through whom all things came and
through whom we exist.

"by him" is FAKE.
No dull yourself.
Your mumu done do.

@bolded


Psalm 18:31

31 For who is God besides the Lord?
And who is the Rock except our God?