₦airaland Forum

Look how daughter go back stab her father.Typical behavior. . .

jabbok:
Jobless legislators. How many legislations hv they passed to improve the lives of their people? All Imo Politicians are ashawo politicians. I dey laugh.

keep dey laughin

hardywaltz:
i dey laff.

Keep laughin.

Kobojunkie:
Let me help you figure this one out yourself. Assuming you live in th USA and the House of Assembly in any particular State had decided to reject the candidature of any Presidential Candidate, what do you think that would mean or would happen?

Now apply the same level or thinking to this particular case here, and maybe you will see how LEGISLATORS(LAW MAKERS) doing the same in Nigeria is not only ludicrous but ought to be rejected no matter where.

Northern state assemblies do the same thing all the time,yet you find no problem with it then.

jason12345:
no one would fight with you guys as long as you only take what is yours. the whole of SS is not yours and would never be. if you see the so called map of biafra, it also included ijaw, itsekiri,orhobo . how can a liberator not respect the people he wants to liberate . if you take only what belongs to you or with the permission of other ethnic groups,you tke their land, then no problem but when you start to demand for things like they are yours then there would be trouble!!!

You keep running your mouth about someone wanting to take something,who said the Igbo are taking anything that are not theirs? Who said the other tribes from the south-south don't want to leave? The ones that don't, how can they be forced? Check ijaw groups and the call for a separate state of their own. Look up the name Asari Dokubo. As for Biafra, Ibibio are in the fight just as the Igbo, do your research, look up the name Ralph Uwazuruike. Both Asari Dokubo(Ijaw separationist) and Ralph Uwazuruike(MASSOB Leader) have a group together, check it out and do your research brother. Don't mention anything about the south-south that you know nothing about.I am from the south-south and know our history from in and out because i took out the time to do so.You should do the same before you come out here and spew nonsense time after time. You have been warned before both by non-igbo of the south-south( Beaf, Dawgpound) and Igbo of the south-south( Me and abadaba)

jason12345:
my parents told me they never knew igbos. the itsekiris only knew the bini, urhobo and ijaw with most of the minorities down south not igbos. moreover, i apologise if the out burst my offend you but i hate when someone thinks he is superior to another and thats what ojukwu tried doing with the letter. i was shocked that excanny and co did not see anything wrong wiith what ojukwu said. how can you not respect other but you want others to respect you? how?

Like i said before, If he actually said that, then he is wrong but which is worse or what is different about the comment you just make when it comes to us wanting to revert back to how we were before the illegal amalgamation?!

About your parents telling you that itsekiris never knew the Igbo, either you are lying or you family don't know their history in full because for damn sure my family knew the itsekiri for centuries.

jason12345:
@ excanny

is that how you come back  okay we are bolo thats why the fulani used betrayal not battle to get ilorin. as i said earlier, through out history we never knew you guys existed because you are insignificant!!! you never even had a kingdom (and pls, do not give me that crap about nri kingdom) talkless of an empire! we and the fulanis have been trading since the time we meet. we had calvaly while you had cutlass. if not for the british that merged all of us together. the hausa and fulanis would have been the best. their empire stretched from senegal to north of cameroun. that would have been closely followed by the yorubas who's empire stretched from east of ghana to western nigeria. even the binis empire would be before you guys! so yes, the northern army can occupy us atlest they give a bit of respect compared to that rat called ojukwu. may God allow you guys declare your land and resource grabbing war again, wo, [b]the leaving would envy the dead in your countr[/b]y!!!! bunch of imbe.ciles!!! biafra my backside!!!! pls, if they born you guys well, declare it!!!

i was even trying to be diplomatic but it seems that there is no reasoning with you guys!!! even a latino knows this!!!

May Allah curse your people the day you all try to enter into the battle after we declare our land and resources again.

jason12345:
@ excanny

is that how you come back  okay we are bolo thats why the fulani used betrayal not battle to get ilorin. as i said earlier, through out history we never knew you guys existed because you are insignificant!!! you never even had a kingdom (and pls, do not give me that crap about nri kingdom) talkless of an empire! we and the fulanis have been trading since the time we meet. we had calvaly while you had cutlass. if not for the british that merged all of us together. the hausa and fulanis would have been the best. their empire stretched from senegal to north of cameroun. that would have been closely followed by the yorubas who's empire stretched from east of ghana to western nigeria. even the binis empire would be before you guys! so yes, the northern army can occupy us atlest they give a bit of respect compared to that rat called ojukwu. may God allow you guys declare your land and resource grabbing war again, wo, [b]the leaving would envy the dead in your countr[/b]y!!!! bunch of imbe.ciles!!! biafra my backside!!!! pls, if they born you guys well, declare it!!!

i was even trying to be diplomatic but it seems that there is no reasoning with you guys!!! even a latino knows this!!!

Jason, you are itsekiri, it would be next to dumb to say yall never knew Ndigbo.Cut it out.

ZIM DRILL:
never changed in terms of what population number or the mentality of not really bothering of having the correct fingures

i was reading the nigeria civil war it seems like (my point view) population numbers are used to sort make tribes/ region population look large therefore threating other small ones & with you nigerians being obessed with tribe etc it creates fictions

''The causes of the Nigerian civil war were diverse. More than fifty years earlier, Great Britain carved an area out of West Africa containing hundreds of different ethnic groups and unified it, calling it Nigeria. Although the area contained many different groups, the three predominant groups were the Igbo, which formed between 60-70% of the population in the southeast, the Hausa-Fulani, which formed about 65% of the peoples in the northern part of the territory; the Yoruba, which formed about 75% of the population in the southwestern part ''

WE nigerian aren't obsessed with tribes.We are who we are.If zimbabwe had been as tribe conscious there would have been so many white people taking over you all's land and property. Anyways, look point black northern nigerian population is inflated and southn nigerian population deflated. They've even gone as far as dividing 1 ethnic group and creating a whole nother name to further weaken the original ethnic group.

Akin-Egba:
Obj definitely does not hate Igbos. He made policies which, in his judgement, he believes are okay for naija. It just happens that Igbos, being ubiquitous in all facets of life in Nigeria, will be hurt any which way it goes. Take for e.g., Jonathan just inaugurated the Innoson motor company in Enugu, but few months later he lifted the ban on vehicle importation and even extended the allowable vehicle age from 8 to 15. Either way, Innoson (Igbo) and his employees lose, while other Igbo (car dealers) who suffered the ban under Obj gain. Under these circumstances, I doubt that a swathe of Igbos will not be hurt even by an Igbo president.

On Awo, I have heard repeatedly that he hated Igbos. I do not doubt that, seeing how he, an Ijebu, hated Egbas too (how much much Igbo).

I really think that was a dumb move.Just as manufacturing was finally starting to gain ground in nigeria, he lifts the allowable vehicle from 8 years to 15. I guess he really didn't know that much about simple economics.I'd say fire who ever advised him on that move. If ye were smart he'd lower it it again after election and then require all new defence/goverment vehicle to be Nigeria-made(Innosons manufactured) like the U.S. does.

ZIM DRILL:
guys so which year census had the correct numbers

Truth is nigeria has never changed since it got its independence in the 60s. Census' were held when deemed "fit".Some were even canceled.

So you mean to tell me that this fool is leaving PDP because they asked her to participate in a debate to hold a position which she never showed up for?Lol.Wow wonders shall never end.

kobojokobo:
Chyz And Omemani

Igboland, or Igbo land (Igbo: Ala Igbo, Ani Igbo or Ali Igbo), is a cultural region in Nigeria that includes the indigenous territory and cultural reach of the Igbo people. Igboland takes up a large part of southeastern Nigeria and predates the country by thousands of years with pottery found in the Okigwe-Nsukka axis dating back to 4,500 B.C.[3] The land has the oldest kingdom in the country, the Kingdom of Nri. Following the independence of Nigeria from the United Kingdom, most of Igboland was part of the Eastern Region and later formed the core of the secessionist Republic of Biafra. In Nigeria today, Igboland is roughly made up of Abia, Anambra, Ebonyi, Enugu, Imo, and parts of Delta and Rivers State.[4] Small parts of Akwa Ibom, Cross River, Benue and Bayelsa State make up the rest of Igboland. There are over 30 million people in Igboland and with a density ranging from 1000 per sq. mile in high density areas and 350 per sq. mile in low density areas,[5] it could be the densest area in Africa after the Nile Valley.[6][7] Together it has an area of some 15,800 to 16,000 square miles.[

Which is a far cry from your privious assertions!

Let us stick to facts guys: Igboland is not as dense as you would like us believe!

Do you know that you just proved our point and admitted to what we said being true. The thing that you posted even proves that the cense that was posted was falsified lol. As a matter of fact, it says that Igboland alone has more people than every region in the north except the NW, and that is only by 5 million. Use your brain dude

kobojokobo:
^^^^

The is only one way to prove this:

Provide the  population density of the SE

Umm duh. . .didn't Ochi Agha already do that? . Try going through the page(this page) genius.smh.

kobojokobo:
Where is the SE on that list

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cities_proper_by_population_density

Nigeria is not even there!

"This is a list of the cities with the highest population density. The population, population density, and land area for the cities listed are based on the entire city proper, the defined boundary or border of a city or the city limits of the city. The population density of the cities listed is based on the average amount of people living per square mile or per square kilometer. This list does not refer to the population, population density, or land area of the greater metropolitan area or urban area and also does not target a particular city district of any of the cities listed."


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cities_proper_by_population_density


Also the SE is not a CITY it is an geo-political area.I'm guessing you are refering to Igboland, which stretches outside of the SE zone, being densely populated?.

strangerf:
What I see from that map is that Lagos is the most densely populated area in Nigeria, and that the SE is no more dense than the N and the SW.

What you see is proof that there is alot of non-yorubas in lagos,especially the Igbo.

This is a good article but i think you should take off the first sentence of the thread's title.

kobojokobo:
I think those figures represent the true state of things. Provide evidence and stop pulling stuff from thin air. As for your assertion, Re: Abia Vs. Katsina, again your perception of things is not enough to discredit hard facts from the data collected by real people in real time. The census figure is mainly data from people residing in Nigeria. I do agree with you that if everyone were counted, including those in the diaspora, the south may come close to the number from the north, since majority of Nigerians in the disapora are from the south. Untill then, we have to make do with hard facts.

Again, stop deluding yourself, and face realities squarely.

Evidence have been provided so accept it.

kobojokobo:
You guys are funny

Perception is never reality

You think the federal government sat down, after collating the data, to readjust the figures for the sole purpose of marginalizing the SE?

Did your relative go to Katsina to count people? And Did he/she travel through the length and breadth of Katsina? Just so you know, no census figure is accurate, not even the US census, does that mean it should be discarded? An honest approach was made to count the inhabitants of the country, and it has come out not how a section of the country wants it, and in their usual manner they are crying foul play.

Maybe the SE is just not as populated as you would have us  believe? This is not the first time census is being carried out in Nigeria. In all attempts, the north has always come tops. Why is that hard for anyone to believe.

So who is doing the readjustments if I may ask?

There is nobody living in katsina and you know it.yes they've been all around katsina and have stayed there for some time. You and I both know that those figures are false. Those northern states are mainly land. There is no way there are more people in the north that the south and that is a fact. I will take u to one LGA in abia and than you see if those fake numbers arent the most hilarious BS you've ever seen. The most powerful nations in the world, the U.S. and Britain have said nigerian census figures were false plus world demographic maps,satellite pictures, names registered in institutional systems in states prove that and you think we nigerians in the south are going to believe that BS figures I just posted?  I laugh in japanese.

kobojokobo:
^^^

How did you know thyat those numbers are not accurate

Did you ever work for census?

Or do you have an inside information that we dont know?

Do you work for governement?

Don't be a fool to yourself. 1 LGA in Imo as at least 1 million people. My relatives have been to katsina and told be about it.They said there is literally nobody living in katsina state(figuratively speaking though) but in the census its marked down for having 5 million people.lol

[size=18pt]No automatic ticket for PDP govs – Nwodo[/size]

News Dec 19, 2010

By Henry UMORU



The national chairman of the Peoples Democratic Party (PDP), Dr Okwesilieze Nwodo, has ruled out automatic ticket for any of the party’s aspirants ahead of the 2011 polls, including its governors.

Nwodo spoke yesterday in reaction to reports that the PDP had granted automatic nomination to second term seeking governors as part of the deal brokered with President Goodluck Jonathan that earned him (president) their endorsement for next year’s presidential race.

‘No room for automatic ticket’

Dismissing the reports that the governors of the PDP had secured automatic nomination for the 2011 polls, Nwodo, who, yesterday, told all the party’s aspirants to get for the ‘’fight’‘, said, ‘’For the avoidance of doubts, all positions in the 2011 primaries are open to all members who have signified their interests to contest. Our guidelines are very clear that all positions shall be contested for. There is therefore no room for imposition of candidates under whatever guise.’‘

In a statement signed by the PDP national publicity secretary, Professor Rufai Ahmed Alkali, the PDP leadership said, ‘’We wish to reiterate here that the NWC is committed to the provision of a level playing field for all aspirants at all levels in our primaries.

‘’The aspirations of thousands of our party faithful who purchased forms to contest for offices on our platform cannot be truncated by fiat especially under the ongoing reforms in our party.’‘

The PDP national chairman, who noted that the party was disturbed by the reports that some aspirants will get automatic tickets to contest the 2011 general elections, accused the party’s enemies as the brains behind what he termed confusing reports.

Battle for guber tickets

The 215 aspirants jostling for the PDP tickets and the party’s governors gunning for second term are due to be screened at the PDP zonal secretariats nationwide on December 21 and 22 while the special congresses and runoffs (if any) to elect the party’s gubernatorial candidates hold on January 9, 2011.

Going by the list of aspirants already submitted by the PDP state headquarters to the national secretariat in Abuja for screening, only Governors Gabriel Suswan of Benue State, Chief Martins Elechi of Ebonyi State, Alhaji Sule Lamido of Jigawa State, Dr. Muazu Babangida Aliyu of Niger State, Alhaji Ibrahim Shema of Katsina State and Senator Liyel Imoke of Cross River State are not being challenged for the party’s gubernatorial ticket.

Others are Chief Christopher Alao-Akala of Oyo, Alhaji Aliyu Shinkafi of Zamfara and Alhaji Mahmud Aliyu Magatakarda of Sokoto.

Bayelsa State Governor Timipre Sylva has the highest number of challengers, 10, followed by Admiral Murtala Nyako (Adamawa), 9; David Jonah Jang (Plateau), and Chief Ikedi Ohakim (Imo) 4.

Governors Patrick Yakowa (Kaduna) and Danbaba Suntai (Taraba) have three challengers each.
Others are Isa Yuguda (Bauchi), Aliyu Akwe Doma (Nasarawa), Hon. Rotimi Amaechi (Rivers), each with two challenges.

Governors Theodore Orji, (Abia), Godswill Akpabio (Akwa Ibom) and Sullivan Chime (Enugu) have one challenger each.


http://www.vanguardngr.com/2010/12/no-automatic-ticket-for-pdp-govs-nwodo/

Kobojunkie:
I believe this is unethical and bordering on illegal. Why are lawmakers acting in such an irrational manner?

How is it bordering on illegality now? It's called uniformity and unity. The northern state assemblies do the same thing but no one complains aunty.

[size=18pt]Imo Assembly rejects Atiku[/size]

Written by Joe Nwachukwu, Owerri Sunday, 19 December 2010



Imo State House of Assembly at the weekend passed a resolu-tion rejecting the candida-ture of former Vice Presi-dent Atiku in the up- com-ing primaries of the ruling Peoples Democratic Party (PDP).

The all-PDP state legislature members also warned Igbo governors and other sons and daughters against accep-ting the vice presidential slot being dangled before them by the former vice president.

In the motion sponsor-ed by Chief Declan Mba-diwe Emelumba of Orlu West State Constituency and Chief Bede Eke of Ngor Okpala State Consti-tuency, the House also resolved to reaffirm its support for President Goodluck Jonathan as candidate of PDP in 2011 presidential election.

The motion was co-sponsored by Hon. Ikenna Emeh (Isu), Mike Iheanatu (Aboh Mbaise) Henry Igbomezie (Oguta) Amae-chi Nwoha (Nwangele) and Samuel Anyanwu (Ikeduru).

The House adopted two other prayers of the motion namely: that Ohanaeze Ndigbo should prevail on all Igbos not to accept to be vice presidential candidate at next year’s election and that Governor Ikedi Oha-kim should lead a delegation of all Imo State PDP delegates to presidential primaries to convey the resolution to the President.

Canvassing the motion, one of its sponsors, Hon Emelumba noted that since the House had on September 14, resolved to support President Jonathan, it would be politically suicidal for them to recant in support of another aspirant.


http://tribune.com.ng/sun/index.php/news/2787-imo-assembly-rejects-atiku

[size=13pt]Objections Surface Over Nigerian Census Results[/size]

by Sandra Yin



(April 2007) Provisional results of the 2006 census in Nigeria show that Kano in the north is Nigeria's most populous state (9.4 million), followed by Lagos (9.0 million) in the south. Northern states account for 75 million people, while the southern states are home to 65 million. The total population was 140 million.

Since December, when these provisional results were released, some Nigerians have rejected the numbers, while others have stood by them.

A spokesman for a separatist group in the South described the census as "outrageously doctored figures."1

The pan-Igbo sociocultural organization Ohanaeze Ndigbo said the census artificially reduced Ndigbo to a minority.

Bola Tinubu, the governor of Lagos state, called for a recount and said the census figures were false.2

Nigeria's president Olusegun Obasanjo called those who dispute the results "confusionists," adding that when they saw the census didn't break the country, they sought to sow confusion. And he washed his hands of the issue: "If you like, use it, [if] you don't like [it], leave it."3

Census results–especially the distribution between the Muslim north and the Christian south—have often sparked controversy in Nigeria. The provisional numbers released in January are no exception. Like earlier censuses that provoked an outcry, the reaction followed a set pattern. The south, which made up less than half the population, rejected figures, while the north endorsed them.

Explaining his objection to the census results, Tinubu claimed that a parallel census conducted by Lagos in collaboration with the National Population Commission put the state's population at more than 17.5 million, not 9.0 million, as the 2006 census suggested. A population of 17.5 million would translate into a population density of 13,492 people per square mile, close to the 13,044 per square mile in Hudson County, N.J., which is home to Jersey City.

In response to critics, the chairman of the NPC tried to appeal to reason. "We cannot simply sit down and allocate certain figures to ourselves simply because we want to please ourselves," said Alhaji Sa-mu’ila Danko Makama. Any state that publishes its own census, he pointed out, has committed a breach of the constitution. The NPC is the only body mandated by law to conduct the census in Nigeria.4

In a report on the 2006 census process, the chairman observes that even before the census was conducted, highly placed individuals and organizations in several states had already determined to the decimal point the population of a particular area or region. "Almost all these wild guesstimates apparently were based on their perceptions mostly out of ignorance or possibly ulterior motives to suit their agenda," he notes.5

A Checkered History of Census Taking

Nigeria has a history of problems with data collection. Results of the first post-independence census conducted in 1962 were withdrawn. The reliability of the 1963 census has been questioned. The results of the 1973 census were discredited and never saw the light of day, and no census was conducted in 1981.6

Collecting data in Nigeria can be a challenge. During the March 2006 census, thousands of enumerators walked off the job, because they hadn't been paid.7Several years ago, Holly Newby, who was the U.S. survey manager for ORC Macro (now Macro International) in Nigeria for the 2003 Demographic and Health Surveys (DHS), conducted a survey there. She discovered that rough terrain made her job all the more difficult. Similarly, last year, census enumerators found that some households were not easily accessible by roads. Some were more easily reached by water. But the boats weren't well-built and most Nigerians don’t swim, so enumerators were reluctant to go by boat.

Sometimes reaching households isn't the problem. Inaccurate reporting is. The 1991 census was marred by allegations of cheating. On the first page of the census form, there was enough room to list up to nine household members. Oddly enough, data collected from some states in the South showed all households reporting exactly nine people. Some population experts have speculated that state and lower-level officials muddied the data by telling communities to misreport at the household level.

Fair Distribution of Resources

Another reason the census results stir up emotions is Nigerians' history of arguing over resource allocation. Census numbers in Nigeria guide political redistricting for each of the country's 36 states, the distribution of federal funds, and even civil service hiring.8 However, historically, southerners tend to think resources are not distributed equitably. For instance, more than 90 percent of the country's revenue comes from oil in the south, but the north controls about 55 percent of Nigeria's revenue.9 Visitors notice that it takes longer to travel the same distance in the south than in the north, where roads are in much better shape, says Newby, who spent eight months in Nigeria.

A history of data collection problems and one of disputes over resource allocation can be a recipe for discord.

"Put the two together," says Newby, "and it has the making of the perfect storm."

She has noticed that the challenge to the census is often based not on technical issues, but on emotional ones.

"The problem with Nigeria and doing any data collection effort is it could be the god's honest truth," says Newby. "You could have the most exact census, and there will always be people who don't believe it."


http://www.prb.org/Articles/2007/ObjectionsOverNigerianCensus.aspx

Aigbofa:
You people are living in a fantasy world. Northerners will never dare target Yorubas. There are too many of them in Yorubaland, ( i.e Kwara ) besides, they have been in peace with Yorubas now for over a century.
What they are not used to are overbearing, greedy and extremely haughty ibos.

Not true at all.check you history.both recent and past.they think you all are very selfish people, even more than the igbo, and very untrustworthy.

buzugee:
finna do that sire. good looking out

Knowledge is power bro.

You all should read this book,very powerful:

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Only Phase 1 on the airport is completed.Phase 2 is projected to be completed by june of next year.

excanny:
Was Adekunle(a Yoruba) not already stationed at the bight of bonny trying to take over our land, so what's the crying about when we decide to do the same to you.

Tell'em.

A single term of 7 years?!!!!! It'll never pass.