₦airaland Forum

@Edoyad

You don't get it do you?

It is like this,

Let the demands of each zone go through the assembly as dem dey make law.
if lawmakers like am - dem go make law.
if dem no like am- dem nogo make law
\If dem no make law- nobody go force you.

That is all I am saying.

You can decide to ask for legislation on the issues you raised above, and ego follow the
same process.

Go and read your constitution. If you had read it, your reaction could have been pointless , unless you are also player number 12.

@ Poster

POINT OF CORRECTION-- never in your life associate That Obahiagbon
guy with Our Wole Soyinka.

@Beaf,

Thank you very much for your observation and I am glad you mentiones my reaction as very unusually
to my reactions on sharia.

I note you r very valid observations and wish to state very emphatically that my indignation is directed at
those guys who dwell on sophistry and claime to know the north and its people, religion and cultures
more than other Nigerians.When they write, you find that it is the same fare- dripping with prejudices
and phobia. This is our friend Onlytruth plies his trade and he definitesly should know better. He has deliberately
aligned himself to the clan of the informed for his mischievous thesis on northerners and sharia. That is where we disagree.

Finally, my position, as I take issues in a case by case basis is that regardless of whatever proposals that are tabled before
the committee, there is still a long way to go and by the time these proposals go through the legislative process and this
is very rigorous- from committee to the house, the three readings in the two houses, the senate and house work separately,
the 36 state legislatures and finally presidential assent for constitutional amendment, whatever is objectionable must have been
jettisoned along the way. This is the crux of the matter. This is what I forsee for all the proposals mentioned , whether we like it
or not. In short there is no way anything can be foisted on Nigerians without their agreement through their
representatives as recognised by the present dispensation.

Every honest person knows this and with this at the background, it will amount to rabble rousing and irresponsible for anyone to
appear in Nairaland , or anywhere for that matter and spread paranoia and falsehood. What is the use our enlightenment if
we continue to use it for negative purposes. Are we suddenly ignorant of the lawmaking process? Since we know it is there,
there is no need to worry as the legislative process is prescribed in the constitution.
That is all I am saying. Stop the rabble rousing and let the system work, separate the wheat from the chaff. If you do not like
something, , see your representative. What is the problem there?

Beaf, honestly na all these ITK and Number 12 players, third linesmen and auxiliary referees wey we get for Naija dey annoy me.
They just muddle up things with their prejudices and I must say, most respectfully that all these guys cannot be ignorant of these facts.
All through Nairaland, a topic is posted for discussion the next thing - northerner, sharia, etc etc. They leave the substance and chase the shadows.
In another instance the Igbo and Yoruba forget Hausa topic and face themselves-- wetin.

'Edoyad, onlytruth and wirinet.

This is where you are derailing.

i will recap if you cannot read between the lines and follow logic.

A senate committee is conducting hearings in the six political zones of Nigeria.
Each zone is making proposals for constitutional ammendments.
All presentations will be harmonised and presented for debate as recommended by the committee.
Some of these proposals may not even pass the committee stage.
These proposals will go through the legislative process and if my/your reps approve them what will you do?

For the guy Wirinet, I refer you to my comments on Orkars coup speech

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=354162.msg4955842#msg4955842

My dear Onlytruth, whether sharia is politically motivated or not is subject to definition and implementation is
confined to certain locations that are completely outside your zone and in any case it does not have general
application in the northern zones. SOme have said that it is used as a political tool but certainly it will not be
of any relevance in other parts of Nigeria. On this score, the quasi federal system will only that and restrict
it to the areas that want it.

On rigging and manipulation of elections, we know the specialists who outbid themselves and always end up
without a candidate. We know those who sponsor and instal a whole legislature and kidnap governors and they are not in the north
The federal system of government allows each state latitude to decide how it allocates its
resources and over the years we have seen how they have been used either for the community or for the
rulers. Being a federation, all federating are bound by statutes (Constitution).

Do not be deceived, it has been said , times without number, that our elite from all divides have a common interest
and once they agree, we are left in the cold, regardless of where you come from.Instead of finding a solution to this,
you guys have this penchant of using the same divisive methods used by our mutual oppressors to get to the top
and engage us in endless debates, rehashing the same fare, day in day out., nothing new.

To be very honest with you guys, it is depressing to engage in this type of dialogue , all in the negative direction,
dispelling long engraved prejudices and mindsets and phobia/ conspiracy theories. As I said in other places, this
is a platform for all players. You can decide to send your first eleven, your junior team or your veterans team or
even a combination of all. Do you blame anyone for your wrong choice of team and strategy? What happens if your
striker or defender scores an own goal? It is the fault of the opposing team, abi?

I really do not see any reason to worry about any succession . The constitutional provisions are there.
Just follow them.

In my contributions elsewhere in NL , I have always seen the Anambra 2010 election
as a very crucial milestone. All standards for future elections in this country will be put
to test here. Anambra people will do well by putting their best foot foward and also
monitoring the votes and of course voting wisely too. May the bet man win.

I hope those fools in Abuja and politicians and their political parties are listening.
You guys are turning this country into a glorified Banana Republic. When will
all this nonsense stop?

@ onlytruth

You are nothing but a coward because you always wait for me to log out before posting your comments. You think I'm as jobless as you. I gat stuff to do men!


Honestly, I think it is all a matter of timing, I have work to do too.

Anyway , I see you are on your usual path.

I am glad you are now seeing the light.

@ Ndu

I just ignored it. Am tired of explaining. You know virtually nothing about and you make wild and sweeping statements
about them. This man will go abroad and speaking authoritatively on Nigeria.

@Onlytruth

This is where you convey wrong impressions. You should realise that you are not addressing your ilk alone.

Nigeria is a federation isn't it? or you do not want it again? Sharia is not being used in Eastern Nigeria and Resource allocation are major themes in the ongoing senate hearings. Each zone is making a presentation. So our lawmakers are expected to put their heads together and come up with the best possible options and it is going to be a peaceful showdown, not the violence you have always wished for.

As an aside, some folk are asking for more states and I was amused there was no talk of Biafra at the senate hearings. Only truth, are you really winning?
E be like say bus don leave you for station. Words are tools of communication and with your sophistry, you go beyond the ordinary meaning. I refuse to comment on the use and understanding of words. We are operating on different wavelengths. You are a propagandist and I say things as they are. You manipulate words for full effect when you want to manipulate minds, but not people like us.

@ Ndu

I just ignored it. Am tired of explaining. You know virtually nothing about and you make wild and sweeping statements
about them. This man will go abroad and speaking authoritatively on Nigeria.

So Naira is no more legal tender?

Chai, why did you destroy this straw poll. The Beconrich Campaign Organisation will definitely sue.
This was our shadow election against 2011. You have messed up our permutations. Map to follow.
Good enough we have another territory. We shall be moving to Benin Republic,since we are not wanted here.

@Kobojunkie

The man has run out of candidates, all this sophistry and high winding grammar don finish.
Only truth ,please have the humility to suggest your self for this "mission critical". Na
you remain, the last of the Mohicans.

Big ups----- Always stand for what is right,

No because those your uncles participated and brought us to this level
and we are yet to recover. Now you want them to come back. So they are
better of two evils? So what happens after they leave. Square 1?

@ Cre8tivity,

Madam, you never fail to amaze me. Somewhere you mentioned coups and I asked you
to tell me what your Plateau/Langtang mafia did for you on the plateau. You disappeared
and now you are here again. am asking you the same question.

No, they will change any furniture Yar'adua has sat on, even at Ecowas and UN.

Glad you are reading Korean and not the Koran because you will not be counselled to pray for someone's demise.

Chappelle .S

Please consult your pastor for that purpose. You need it.

@ Nairalanders,
Abeg make una helep me

Since yesterday, I have been thinking and thinking. This kind of judgment.Is it the type
that oyibo, Lord Denning abi weitn dem dey call am don judge before before?Even sef all those
Akinola aguda and Charlie Boy him Old man. Na so dem do dem own before?

In this Ibori case, money was just doing yoyo, flying from one account to another and even sef Delta State government
whose money dey do swing from account to account dem no complain. even sef there was no project and money
dey do athletics tournament- from javelin to pole vault, discus to hammer, not to talk of 440 and 100meters, and inside all dat paper
judge no see offence and no fit ask where de contract or job dey?

Na wao.This na abracadabra judgent o. So judge no fit call all the people wey do that tournament to come explain?

Di only time NNPC dey step out na--

1)LOndon to cllect commision on creude oil sales
2)Geneva/Opec= to collect estacode.

Any other venture- na kill and siveide near home- Equatoorial Guinea.

NNPC na introvert.- Mummy's child

@Chose04,

Merry Xmas, give me ma present--- return that picture--- and remove it after xmas.


blush blush blush!!!!! cherres anyway, just jiving

@ Onlytruth and other Nairlanders.

I have gone through the press clip from the Vanguard Newspaper of yesterday and
seen that the summary of the demands made by the six zones to the constitutional review
committee. I want to believe that none of them went to the hearings with demands that
must be met or are not negotiable.

I believe also the hearings were aimed at aggregating views which will eventually be used in
their deliberations before they come up with a final position.This is aptly demonstrated in the report
which I quote below:-

"Kano set the tone of the argument for the supremacy of the Sharia in its position papers,
when an Elderstateman, Alhaji Magaji Dambatta declared that the ‘constitution should not have a
sweeping effect on Sharia where the need arises’

This means that the acceptance or rejection of tnis proposal is entirely at the responsibility of the committee
which is empowered as an arm of the legislature to make recommendation. Acceptance and recommendation
in their final report will go to the legislature and follow the rigours of law making in all its ramifications. It is a very
tedious process and whether it is accepted or not belongs to conjecture.

Fellow Nairalanders should be very cautious when persons that do not wish this country are on the prowl. We should
always read between the lines. In our present circumstances, we should not allow sophistry and twisted logic to create undue
hysteria among us. Views are many and varied. What I hold dear may be anathema to you but in the final analysis,
there is always a meeting point and there are established institutions and procedures for resolving these differences.Let us give
them the enabling environment. Before then, in our own little way, we must verify information received and also subject such
to logic.

In conclusion, what we require today is mutual respect for each other and our opinions. In addition, there is no amount of anomie cannot be
contained by systematic logic. There is today, a concerted attempt at sowing seeds of discord among us and perpetrators of these acts are
getting desperate by the day. we wish them well. You can hail your clan and give them all the positive attributes , I have no problem with that, yu can insult others till you go hoarse but you can only become blind if you do ot want to see them . In the same vein, you can wish or even allocate
berts in heaven for your clan but we know this is false, unless they are not the same folk we see everyday, created by God like all of us, with our baggage of the good, the bad and the ugly. In any case, they are going on with their lives, in concert with everyone else. Your widh is not their wish.In effect, you are whistling in the dark.

All this codl war propaganda stunts are outdated and of no material benefit to our world of today,

Chai, see as dis people don spoil ma weekend.

We have been pointing and killing till this diaspora come begin do

this kain post.

Why do you have to consult wikipedia before you plan your menu.

We go soon open another Nairaland for you people.

Anhh ANhhh

Which one you wan order, green, brown or white bottle?

But there should be no doping oH.

You know say taking alabukun na doping?

Peppersoup is allowed.