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Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 1:52am On Aug 01
Truly evil. They’re scary people.

IjeBos:
Came here to post this.
Didn't I call this?

They had to drop it as Hearn's attorney probably had evidence that it was a flawed installation by now and they were about to get thr grand jury testimony proving she lied to the grand jury to get them to indict.
I hope they sanction her for this and refer her to the Bar.

If Raumdeuter, Basilico or Benalcino3 had any shame they would feel like the idgits they are for pushing this and defending this obviously corrupt adminsitration.
But imagine the depths of evil in your heart to try to prosecute someone for something you know is a lie.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 1:47am On Aug 01
feedthenation:
---DOJ dropping Reflecting Pool vandalism case against Olympian David Hearn, citing 'flawed' work by contractor---

---Felon 47 lied---there was never any evidence of vandalism---Pirro's case against Olympian David Hearn; an innocent man used as a scapegoat for a botched job of lining the Reflecting Pool that Pirro was forced to admit was "the result of flawed installation by the contractor", and "the rush to complete the project prior to events associated with the America 250 celebration".
Every gremlin who jumped on the bandwagon to call him a criminal will suddenly stay silent.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 1:15am On Aug 01
budaatum:
It tells others to believe what it does not believe.
I can’t pretend to understand why they do and say the things they do. I know why. But I don’t understand it.

You know you wouldn’t get close to, hug or kiss someone with a respiratory infection but you want to crucify an 85 year old scientist for telling you to wear a mask and stay at least 6 feet away.

It boggles the mind.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 11:10pm On Jul 31
If you “have a feeling” social distancing works, why do you think Fauci made it up?

You allowed party politics rid you of your god-given common decency.

The whole time you’ve been spreading conservative misinformation and dangerous rhetoric that endangers people’s lives, you didn’t actually believe in what you were saying.

At the height of Covid, people like you spread so much misinformation that others died listening to them. And you’re still not backing down despite knowing better.

And for what? Just for talking points ? Mtchew

basilico:
I have a feeling social distancing works
basilico:
I've never been against a COVID vaccine per se.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 9:06pm On Jul 31
I don’t click on any links you guys share on here. You should know that by now. Don’t share a link and ask me to go read it. I don’t trust any of you chronically online fishers.

As for social distancing, it is a proven method to mitigate spread of droplet borne diseases. You guys often choose to extract the least bit of knowledge from an opportunity where you could learn so much. And then refuse to expand your worldview because you’re fine with sticking to whatever confirms your bias.

Social distancing works. The scientific discussion is what amount of social distancing is adequate. That’s where the 6-feet rule comes in. Some scientists are not sure if 6-feet is enough. While some think it’s adequate.

Depending on the size of the causal organism and their air buoyancy, some might travel further than others in the air. That’s what he means by the 6-feet is not a magic rule. It doesn’t mean he recommended social distancing out of thin air. In fact the more distance the better.

A true scientist who is not ego-driven learns from changing circumstances and updates their behavior and recommendations based on it.

IF he was initially against masking and then changed his opinion, it’s because he reviewed the studies of fellow scientists, the mechanism of spread and realized masking was good. At first he told people who were rushing to the stores to hoard masks and PPE not to do that because it could lead to a shortage for healthcare workers dealing with actually infected people.

It wasn’t until they studied the virus more and realize asymptomatic people could spread it too, did he change his opinion and recommend universal masking. And that was the appropriate thing to do.

That’s the mindset of a scientist. Their recommendations are not based on ego or rooted in stone. It evolves with studies and evidence.

I can tell you for free that the more distance you put between yourself and a sick person, the better for you. Take the free advice and keep yourself safe.

If you think it’s not science-based, go to your nearest hospital, stand by someone with tuberculosis and have them cough in your face. Until you’re willing to do that, anything you are saying is ludicrous and not worth considering.

basilico:
Why don't you read what he told the Senate.
Social distancing wasn't based on any known science
He was also iniyially against face masks ,then later suggesting one could use double mask..


Those are how own words not mine.

Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 7:33am On Jul 31
basilico:
Agree with the wellbeing of others Your basic rights of movement are removed if say you have infectious disease.
Mandates like social distancing and masking were not based on any scientific evidence.Fauci conjured it up.
Every vaccine has side effects to a certain extent. They covered it up , there are people who are allergic to injections. For them it was worse than jailing an innocent person.
How does one reason with someone who thinks social distancing and masking are conjured up preventative measures? How?

You don’t think keeping one’s distance from an infected person and covering up your mouth around others can limit the spread of disease?

If you really truly think this, you’re actually beyond help.

Why don’t you go to a hospital filled with sick people, hug the infected patients and have them breathe in your face since it’s all conjured up?

My Gosh. your deliberate choice to toe the line of incredulity is truly truly exhausting. Lord have mercy.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 4:54am On Jul 31
Only in your delusional reality
basilico:
On fundamental issues J have never been proven wrong here.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 4:53am On Jul 31
You ramble a lot of right wing jargon. I will not waste my time responding to all of them.

But an employer has the right to terminate your employment if you pose a risk to other employees or clients.

Anyone who refuses to vaccinate for a contagious illness is a risk to others. Yes they have the right to refuse a vaccine but other people do not consent to getting infected by them. Your right ends where the wellbeing of another person begins.

The best solution is to terminate the employment so that everyone can keep their right. The employee’s right to refuse a vaccine stays honored and their colleagues can also keep their right to not be exposed to a preventable illness.

Everyone wins.
basilico:
I've never been against a COVID vaccine per se.
I trahed it because I felt there was something about the way it was brought into the market. Don't vaccines take over 20 years. Thank Trump for that.
Operation Warp speed cleared all bottlenecks previously needed to deliver a vaccine to the market.
Pfizer tests had been positive by Sep 2020. They don't offer hope , they keep it themselves.
After Biden is declared the winner , Pfizer through Fauci happily broke the news. If they had announced two weeks earlier it would have enhanced Trump votes. Within 2 weeks they are already exporting it.
They still won't confirm or deny there are side effects. Infact RFK Jr says the vaccine injured Fauci .
They lied about the efficacy of the vaccine. They mandates people to take it ,thousands lost jobs .
Fauci wasn't sure about levels needed to achieve herd immunity, he just blurted out figures.
Medicine is a proffession that relies on utmost trust.
You may have studied the evolution and production of vaccines especially the mRNA vaccines .
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 1:52am On Jul 31
kodded:
If he saved lives he wouldn't have needed a pardon . If he saved lives he would have answered the questions. He has a pardon so no chance of prosecution. More people died from his actions than from covid

And he had to back date the pardon to 2014 sad
Right. Because we are dealing with a very rational president who wouldn’t go after people for hurting his emotions.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 11:20pm On Jul 30
Dr Fauci is a national treasure and I applaud him for standing up to Rand Paul and these republicans who forget the millions of people who did not die because of Dr Fauci’s expertise.

We need to remember that COVID-19 was a novel virus and much of the protocol was “a learn as you go” situation. God bless Dr. Fauci for doing his very best to keep Americans informed and protected!

It's crazy that people don't understand science yet feel justified in crucifying those who do the best they can based on their vast knowledge and experience in a rapidly evolving public health emergency. This is all a disgraceful witch hunt to satisfy a personal vendetta while deflecting attention from much more critical and current crises.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f):
basilico:
Challenging scientists of the WH Corona virus taskforce to iinkovate innovate?
is not stupid.
Asking Dr Fauci Whether he can come up with an injection to kill the virus isn't stupid
I’m assuming a typo. Okay what happened when the WHO corona task force actually innovated and produced an injection to combat the virus? What did you guys do?
You demonized it and turned it into what it wasn’t. No one believes anything you guys say because you don’t even know what you’re saying half the time.

Nothing is utterly impossible in real science .
debatable but I don’t want to drag you down a knowledge path that will confuse and discombobulate you.


Was trying to make it simple for you .
laughable 🤣
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 10:39pm On Jul 30
ijebosb:
Fire must be coming out of Basilico's head.
He thinks women are lower than him but has a woman here who is clearly smarter than him and repeatedly trashes him.

It's not even a fair back and forth.
I honestly feel sorry for trashing him sometimes.

But he makes it too easy
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 2:38pm On Jul 30
GloriousGbola:
is there a way we can inject izal tho? or maybe methylated spirit?
asking the real questions here
I’m sick of republicans 🤣
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 2:37pm On Jul 30
basilico:
Context. He was asking Dr Fauci whether there's a way they can innovate and inject bleach into the lungs to kill the virus

Note x .is there a way" He didn't tell any oblong head to idrink bleach.
you’re not making the point you think you are making. It is still a steupid line of thought. Accept that move on

So if I asked you if there any way you can give me a child so that I can propagate my genes,,😝😝😝 ,

what do I mean.
Well that would mean you’re sharing the st***pid-man title with Trump too. Because everyone will immediately look at you and say that was a weird unrelated question to ask.

You can’t even come up with a decent analogy to attempt to drive your argument home.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 2:31pm On Jul 30
grin grin
GloriousGbola:
i can inject them into you. orally inseminating you wont work so inseminating you via injection should.

speaking in the language you understand
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 2:29pm On Jul 30
basilico:
I didn't mean you personally.The media called him a racist. I'll go further.Trump first called it the Wuhan virus. The WHO refused to stink China with that tag and renamed it COVID-19. There was the Spanish virus .Noone has ever said it stigmatized the Spanish. Ditto Zika ,Ebola and Marlbug viruses. The WHO under direction of Dr Fauci was more concerned about exonerating China .
Yes because you guys were already turning it into a racist mongrels fest due to Trump’s rhetorics. They so wisely chose not to fan the racist flames he was igniting.

Not to mention that covid viruses are not new. This was just a new mutation. Why would they rename it specifically to appease Trump’s racism?

There are a few mutations of the HIV virus. Do want them all renamed based on the area they were first discovered?

Here is his full video asking doctors about all the possibilities of beating the virus. He muses it would be good if they could come up with UV or a bleach agent that would knock out the virus in minutes from the lungs.Which is where the virus attacks..
Yes because he’s a steupid man.

Watch the video. He is asking those Fauci doctors what possibilities are within the horizon at that particular time.
In the video he uses "suppose"..Suppose we inject bleach.Suppose we fire UV light. Suppose.
An Israel Company had just proposed something about using UV light to kill the virus so his UV question was within the context.
Again he’s a steupid man. I don’t need to re-watch the video that I’ve watched a million times before, just so that I can gaslight myself (the way you have) into believing he’s making sense. You don’t even have to be an expert to recognize the stupidity of that moment.

Middle schoolers taking elementary school biology wouldn’t ask those questions. Makes me wonder if he even passed high school. He has kept his transcripts hidden so we’ll never know.

How did he cause it to spread given the backdrop.He formed a taskforce at the WH headed by Mike Pence with Fauci and Dr Birx at the taskforce.
He made US manufacturing retool their factory to produce incubators and manufacture PPE equipment to stop reliance on China..He offers two fully equipped medical warships to New York and some other state. They only get 5 patients from Cuomo who had cried about bedspace. Cuomo sends the old patients back to their homes.
What did he do wrong ,you can't answer.
Let’s start from him dismantling the pandemic response system Obama had set in place because he can’t stand having Obama’s name on things. His ego and hate for Obama has done a lot damage to Americans.

That action alone set America back weeks in our initial response. And when the information was provided to him early in the year (Jan) that there was to be an outbreak on our hands soon, he refused to act on it for months until it was too late (April).

Can we talk about his demonization of scientific recommendations that led to people forming conspiracy theories (like you) and ignoring safety guidelines thereby putting themselves and their neighbors at significant risk? That’s not something he did wrong?

His administration mismanaged PPE availability and distribution because he never prioritized it. He said masking was voluntary.

Look I’m not interested in rehashing 2019 politics with you because I’m sure all this has been said by me or others before, but you guys tend to ignore facts when it doesn’t align with your narrative. So pls stop wasting my time.


Fauci is worse than that German doctor Memgel or something. Dr Fauci was running the show .The taskforce removed all obstacles that would have taken 20 years plus to roll out a vaccine. Every COVID action Trump took had Fauci input..Every action.as the chief advisor to the WH COVID taskforce.
I’m sure you didn’t know Fauci until republicans told you to hate him. That’s how much of your own autonomous thinking you’ve handed over to them.


Dr Fauci on IVM and HCL. He blocked them so big pharma could sell the vaccine .
You don’t even think before you lie. Where was ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine blocked? In America? The same medications that MAGA fools were getting from their farmer neighbors and guzzling to their own detriment?How were they getting it if it was blocked?

Oh you mean Fauci didn’t instruct healthcare workers to give these medications to covid patients?

Yea no, that’s not how health science works. No doctor or nurse worth their salt will administer a medication that hasn’t been studied and rolled out for a particular disease even if Jesus himself commands it.

Me and my colleagues will resign before we risk our licenses to give a medication that hasn’t been approved just because MAGA has a conspiracy theory about it.

I don't think you can hold.my muster when it comes to covid-19. You are too biased for heaven's sake.Too biased out of ignorance or lack of knowledge.
About treatment or prophylaxis . I'm not a medic, that's your forte.
More maga drivel.
You are the most amusing poster on this thread. I’ll give you that.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 1:50pm On Jul 30
You people still don’t feel embarrassed using this defense? “He asked is there a way we can inject bleach?”

Is that’s so different from me saying he asked us to drink bleach? Pls use your thinking cap well before responding.

This is premium slowness at work. Drink, inject bla bla bla, the fact is that he’s standing in a public office where hundreds of millions are looking up to him for guidance and he’s suggesting /inquiring (however you want to frame it) about putting bleach in the human body.

And your concern is that I’m using drink while he meant inject. As if any route would make a difference to the harm it could cause

Y’all are abhorrent.

I know it was the accumulation of embarrassment from this incident and other similar events that made him turn so violently against Fauci. He embarrassed himself publicly and he’s taking it out on the man who had the wisdom and knowledge to know better. A smarter man who people looked up to instead of him.

basilico:
Where did Trump ask people to drink bleach.
He uses the word suppose.
He specifically asks , Is there a way we can inject bleach blah blah?



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zicGxU5MfwE?si=YqIuC4nFFDRoboSS


Suppose Sein makes me a mod to keep check of the crazies in his forum like I faithfully do.
Suppose I'm. mod with what Linux calls Super powers





I'll tag .. bayelsaowei, deepsight, nateevs, feedthenation, obrigardo, Ijebosb, cococandy
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 9:10am On Jul 30
basilico:
Totally incorrect if not dishonest. Trump blocked travel to and from China very early on. You called him a racist
I wasn’t even on this thread in 2019. How do you know what I called him then? That’s how you assume and lie.

Regarding bleach , he asked doctors behind him in a press conference whether they can come up with something to hit the lungs directly and kills the virus. He asked Fauci and Dr Birx spefically if I'm right.He never told anyone to drink bleach ,anyone who drank bleach is an im..becile who’s not worth breathing the same air as I do.
Rewrite history as much as you like, he asked a stupid question borne of the deepest ignorance anyone in modern history can muster. A 5 year old wouldn’t have asked that.

And that’s who we are supposed to listen to instead of a career scientist? Shame on all of you for giving up the use of your thinking faculties for party politics.

Democrats and Fauci did and still do everything to blame Trump for COVID. Explain what Nancy Pelosi meant when she said covid will be Trump's Katrina.
You can't .
We don’t blame him for causing it. we are not dvmb like republicans who go on wild fishing conspiracies that don’t make sense. We blame him for his handling of it and causing unnecessary excess deaths than would’ve happened if he stood up early on and led the country like a sensible leader.

Fauci I wrote years ago will die a broken nan.
You can try, hope, pray and wish that your fellow ghouls will be successful in harming the man who has spent his life serving Americans. But everyone can see you’re the broken man.

So, I don’t need to tell you that what you wish for him could happen to you. It has already happened to you. I doubt this is who you were in the past. Something is irreparably broken and I am sure there’s no fixing it. Normal people just look at you and laugh and move on with their lives.

You may know but your knowledge is within the corridors of Trump hatred.
Trump can’t even tell the difference between DNA and RNA. He wouldn’t know the difference between the reproductive/replication cycles of a bacteria versus a virus.

Meanwhile I had to have 4.0 in biochemistry, microbiology and organic chemistry to even get admitted into my healthcare program.

Both you and him are loudmouth ignoramuses in this field as far as I am concerned. My knowledge is enhanced (not limited) by rejecting the egos of men like Trump in healthcare settings. Ego has no place here.

He got his feelings hurt because people wanted to listen to scientists instead of him. And for that ego bruise he suffered, millions of people died that didn’t need to. We will never forgive him for that.

I sincerely hope you don't look at what parties your patients voted for.
Thankfully, political party of affiliation is not a question on the triage and intake assessment. And if anyone is well enough to yap about politics from their hospital bed, then they need to be discharged so they continue recovery at home. I only care for acutely ill patients. None of them is well enough to worry about politics when they’re trying not to die.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 3:55am On Jul 30
basilico:
Within one year more people died of COVID than Trump one year. Everyone knows so done who died from covid.
Some of those death were avoidable. Trump was told ahead of time before it became widespread and he chose to ignore expert advice on preventing the spread. The blood is on his hand.
Fauci was the one dictating policy on COVID exerting ubdue influence on the WHO ,the intelligence community and the medical profession in general. They listened to Fauci not to Trump.
Obviously because he’s the expert. I know y’all’s orange buffoon with little man syndrome hates when people don’t worship him. But I’m sorry to break it to you, no healthcare professional in their right mind would listen to Trump over Fauci. So we can all drink bleach like he said we should? Nonsense


The mess you talk Biden cleared was created by Fauci .
Why did he refuse to answer any questions, yet spent years doing interviews all over the media.
I’m glad he refused to play their silly game.

If there's someone who knows a lot about COVID outside of the medical field , I rank somewhere. I probably kbis a lot about it medically tgan you do
. You’re a delulu malu 🤣🤣🤣
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 3:36am On Jul 30
basilico:
I curse the air you breathe
Are you crying?
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 3:35am On Jul 30
basilico:
Raumdeuter.
Democrat Talsrico massive n
I’ll buy one
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 3:34am On Jul 30
basilico:
We've been over this
you and who? You really think anyone pays attention and remembers the gibberish you spit on here?

That's a plain lie
More people died from Covid during Biden than from Trump. Biden found everything ready . Vaccine plus medical equipment were in plenty He found medical personnel who'd had months of dealing with the virus

Liberals will always try to convince you of .the opposite
I guess you also believe rights from government and not from God .
Covid started in 2019. Trump left in 2020 (ish).

Biden entered and spent four years cleaning up trump’s ego driven covid mess.

Do you expect more people to die in the one year that Trump was overseeing Covid than the four years Biden spent fixing his mess?

Logic really isn’t your forte
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 1:25am On Jul 30
One thing about Trump, when he fails, his ego will never let him rest. He will try everything to change the narrative and convince the public he’s not the failure that he actually is.

Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 11:51pm On Jul 29
Dr. Fauci is an American hero, who led this nation through a most difficult time and, successfully established the healing process. It is incredible and most un-American that Senators like Sen. Moreno and Sen. Rand Paul would attempt to dishonor and discredit this most noble and courageous man. Calm, dignified, and transparent. The world owes Fauci a medal.

Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f):
basilico:
Agreed but you painted the morale in the military as low below sea level while there are more recruits .
I didn’t think I’d have to explain to you that higher recruitment due to the lower standards is not the same as high morale among the already existing service members.

Mind you they needed to lower standards in the first place because people aren’t interested in joining anymore. Does that support your argument of high morale?

Generally a lot of people don't want the war in Iran owing to lethargy and negative hits from the media and politicians
Two pages ago you said the opposite.

The serving are not trading bullets so far ,it's not a ground war which many find unpalatable.
Yet they’re somehow ending up dead and we are receiving the wounded week after week. Pls speak only of what you know!
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 6:29pm On Jul 29
basilico:
Every branch of the US military surpassed it's recruitment t quotaa for 2026 months ahead of schedule.

https://abcnews.com/Politics/air-force-space-force-meet-recruiting-goals-months/story?id=132076663


So how is there no morale?
Did the news that Hegseth desperately relaxed recruiting rules to allow old men and drug users to get recruited, not make it to your timeline?
I bet you chose to ignore that bit because it doesn't fit your
lopsided narrative.

Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 7:44pm On Jul 28
basilico:
I quoted CNN .
And so?
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 5:32pm On Jul 28
The American general public does not support this war. (See consensus pulled from several sources and summarized below)

But you’ll believe whatever conservative-washed reality you’re want to believe. Therefore I’m not interested in convincing you.

And even if in some weird reality you’re right (you’re not)and the general public supports the war, the military are a distinct population whose actual lives and limbs are on the line.

Permit me to say you’re not using your full thinking capabilities if you’re inclined to believe their morale will match the general public who don’t have to be at the frontlines of the war.

Gosh. The things one has to explain to certain grown men boggles the mind.

basilico:
The general population doesn't seem to be swallowing the morale thing. I'm inclined to believe the military are also part of that, I'm not sure.
And if you must know Obama had ordered the soldiers in Afghanistan not to fire at Taliban militants holding guns unless they fired first. That's a very stupid band unheard of Rule of Engagement in an active conflict.

Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 2:50pm On Jul 28
What does rambling this have to do with military service members morale?

basilico:

It doesn't look like morale is really low.
I'll transcribe this CNN clip.

John Berman: With us this morning, CNN chief data analyst Ed Donnelly. Whatever, man. I’m tongue-tied because actually these numbers surprise me. I was looking at them and I am surprised that they are like this. So who do the voters say they trust on Iran?
Harry Enten: Johnny B. is not the only one who’s surprised. You would be looking at all the news coverage, you’d be looking at all the polling on President Trump, and you would think that Democrats would be able to take advantage and be dominating Republicans when it comes to who is trusted to handle the Iran war.

That simply put is not the case at all. I mean, these numbers are quite surprising. Trust Dems or Republicans on Iran? According to CNBC earlier this month, you’d think, okay, that’s one poll, the Republicans trusted by 2 points. But then CBS News comes out yesterday and what do you see? You see the exact same thing. Trump and the Republicans take the cake. They are trusted by 2 points on Iran.

Now, one poll is one thing, but you put the two of them together, and you can see that the American people, simply put, are not buying what Democrats are selling on Iran. They still trust Republicans more, even if you look at President Trump’s approval ratings on the subject, and they’re negative too, but yet Republicans and Trump still more trusted than Democrats are on Iran.You might think, okay, as the war has gone on and on and on, you might think, hey, the Democrats would be gaining ground in terms of trust that the American people would give them on Iran. If anything, it’s the opposite. It’s the opposite. Trust Democrats or Republicans more to run. In April, according to a Washington Post/Ipsos poll, the Democrats were more trusted by 2 points. Again, close margin, no clear leader. But look where the shift has been. If anything, the shift has been in the Republican direction.

Now the Republicans and Donald Trump are trusted more by 2 points on a run. So again, over the course of the war, if anything, the Republicans have been the ones that have been gaining ground, which I think just goes so opposed to all of the news coverage that we have seen so far. And all of, you know, the media, you would think, hey, but no, the American people are actually trusting the Republicans and Trump, if anything, more now than they were, let’s say, halfway through the war.

John Berman: So how possible is it that part of this is just that Americans don’t like Democrats in Congress much at all?
Harry Enten: Yeah, I think this is a big part of it. The Democratic Party, in the minds of the American public, are weak, weak, weak, to quote the great Tony Blair. I mean, just look at this. Just look at these net approval ratings of Democrats in Congress.

In late February, at the beginning of the war, it was -41 points, -39, -39. And so you’re just looking at these numbers right here and you go to yourself, no wonder, no wonder what’s going on at this point, that Democrats simply cannot take the ball and run with it and actually in the polls be trusted more to run. Because the Democrats in Congress, simply put, are not well-liked. In fact, these are the 3 lowest on record in terms of percentage points for the approval for Democrats in Congress.

So it all puts together a picture. Donald Trump and Republicans may not be liked, but Democrats in Congress are really hated.



You might want to cross check your news sources, I already gave you a list of media hacks who made a paid pilgrimage to China.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f):
You’re engaged in conversations above your bandwidth.

Other administrations never needed to lie to Purple Heart families and the public to boost morale.

As someone who serves alongside the military, I’m going to tell you for a fact that there’s nothing more demoralizing than having your sacrifice downplayed by liars and ghouls to soothe their egos.

Morale is at an all time low right now because of this administration. And their lying and obfuscating is not helping issues. Imagine going to war not knowing if your corpse will be left behind or your name scratched off the KIA list so that some sweaty smelly egomaniacs can look good on paper. You’re a very ridiculous human being for saying this.

Soldiers do not need to be lied to in order to boost morale. They need respect. They need their sacrifices acknowledged and compensated. They need to know that it is worth dying for. They need their honor.

Stfu please
basilico:
What would you do in your position. Iran is claiming it shot down F-35s and F-16 plus sunk an aircraft carrier.
This is to give their troops morale .
You downplay the casualties to demoralize your opponent. Show them their missiles are just mickey mouse type.
On the other hand you exaggerate their losses.

Families of the casualties I believe are the first to be notified.
War is not a laughing matter.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 11:23am On Jul 28
basilico:
In a war the real casualties are never disclosed.
One side exaggerates the casualties of the other side while mnimizing it's own.
That's nothing new and it's a shame for journalists to be against their country when engaged in a war. Shame when their reporting is meant to kill the morale of ther troops
It’s a shame that when a soldier dies, the govt wants to lie and deny that it happened. Nothing kills morale faster than sweeping aside the sacrifices of those who gave their lives.

Soldiers know that they might die but the honor can sometimes make it worth it to them. Their families get compensated for their sacrifices and their name makes it into the immortal halls of military service fame.

Disregarding that historical practice will surely make it so that no one will be willing to take the risk. If you take that away, what would be the motivation?

But reason is not your strong suit so I don’t expect you to understand.

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