IjeBos: Agreed. I think too many people get caught up in the words center, left, right and don't focus on the actual positions.
Mmm hmm.
A first world country in the 21st century where maternity leave and affordable healthcare is controversial. Leftists are tiptoeing around important social issues that affect human lives to avoid ticking off more “centrist” voters.
While the right is raging violently against anything that makes life easier on the poor people. Like what are we even talking about? Where’s the comparison? It doesn’t exist!
DaddyCoool: Trump CAN'T do any of these things because US doesn't work like that. The states have to cooperate and most of the states will NOT cooperate except in removing CRIMINAL illegals, that's it! All these other stuff, he can't do
we know. But does he? He seems very uneducated for a whole president
This same video where they chanting “Jews will not replace us”? A known nazi chant? Can you point to the ones that weren’t carrying torches?
I’ll leave you to whatever it is that makes you think this is defensible. Or that Trump isn’t wrong for saying there are fine people amongst them.
There’s no doubt you’ll defend anything he does or says.
raumdeuter: Not all of them were carrying white torches, the torch carrying ones are the Neo Nazi which Trump condemned
There was a riot on whether to demolish statues there were 2 set of people, One side in support and one side against. There were also anarchists on both sides including the white supremacists Neo Nazi and Antifa who came to cause trouble
The 2 sets who came to protest are very fine people exercising their rights, the ones like NeoNazis, AntiFa and white supremacist that came for trouble are not among the fine people, should be condemned and they were condemned by Trump
The things politics cause infact, hear something and say the exact opposite
I feel like this was so easy to understand from the post I made. Someone voting against their own wellbeing because they hate another person who they thought their vote was going to hurt is a stupid person. It wasn’t even a complicated post and they lost their minds over it .
IMAliyu2: You're also free to add snipper to every meal you eat. That doesn't mean we won't call you an idiot for it and tell you you're killing yourself.
They voted against things their life depended on. They were stupid for it. In the same way Nigerians vote known corrupt politicians into office, that make their lives worse, and later start lamenting about it.
I’m not responsible for whatever is going on personally in your life that’s making you go off tangent this way.
It doesn’t take too much to back off when you don’t know what you’re talking about.
I’ll let you have the last word. Seems you need it the way you’re going on
Starzo: So you created an hypothetical scenario in your head in desperate attempt to find justifiable reasons to bash and shame people for not sharing your opinion.
You couldn't find a real situation to support your point,so you conjured something out of the figment of your imagination to make you feel right about telling others they're stupid for not agreeing with you.
Everybody must follow your line of thought cuz only you knows what's best for everybody.And When reality does not agree with you,you make things up to support your inflated sense of importance. Show me a more self absorbed, entitled, narcissist.
raumdeuter: "I am not talking about the Neo Nazi and the white Nationalists because they should be condemned. There are other people apart from Neo Nazis and White nationalists and the press has treated them unfairly"
Like I said, backtracking.
Let me even ask you. Who sees a group of torch bearing people marching alongside hood wearing white supremacists, all of them chanting nazi chants and decides he’s going to pick them part to determine the good people among them versus the bad.
The simple fact that they’re siding with those people is not enough? Omg.
raumdeuter: You are emotionally invested in furthering a lie that has been disproven multiple times that you heard the live audio and still insist on peddling the lie
there’s nothing to disprove if there’s a video of him saying it. All there is, is you trying to use his backtracking as consolation to interpret what he actually means
That is sad the extent you want to push a false claim just to smear Trump. There are likely other evidence that justify your claim not this one which is a lie
You’re right. There are other evidence to justify the claim that he’s a white supremacist. And it’s an embarrassing position for an American leader to be.
I don’t need to smear him. He does it all on his own.
raumdeuter: So what did you hear from 2:00 to 2:10? Does it align with what you posted?
Yes. He said there were fine people on both sides.
One side was the white supremacy group.
What are you not getting?
There are no fine people among the white supremacists and their supporters. This doesn’t need to be said or stated. Shameful that in the 21st century people are openly aligning themselves with white supremacy and we have to tiptoe around calling them what they are.
raumdeuter: Dont move on, watch the same video you posted and tell me what you hear at 2:00
Its a different thing if you didnt see the video, but you posted the video if you are now refusing to watch and hear from what you posted then you should admit you are chasing an agenda
Its on the video you posted Can you tell me what you heard from 2:00 to 2:10
I watched the video before I posted it.
The people with the white supremacists were fine people. What else are you trying to convince yourself for or against?
He said there were fine people on both sides. One of the sides being the side of the white supremacists.
Pls go and tell it to someone who’s open to being gaslit. Democrats didn’t put those words in his mouth. I didn’t tell him to say that. No one made him say it.
If you guys have bend backwards to change the meaning of plain language to try to convince us it means something else, it might be time for introspection.
He said what he said in broad daylight and the world heard him.
IjeBos: Except Europe is far more liberal than the US. Explain to me how that fact fits with the point you are making,.
The difference between the UK and the US is the right wing echo chamber.
And you have people living in UK and Canada talking negatively about our leftists. As if American left isn’t at best centrist in other first world countries. That’s how deep the Republican propaganda has eaten into the fabric of the world
Calitoscassius: My friend go and sit down! You are too quick always to label people dumb. What kinda bloody scenario is that? Clearly as i said, it is all lies. You think we are kids?
Who da hell do you think you are?
No I don’t think you’re a kid. Kids are smarter than you
Starzo: Voted for Trump to deport brown and black healthcare workers....workers working legally or illegally in the country?
Can someone get into the US healthcare system without having valid legal documents?
Is the Trump administration deporting legal immigrants?..if no, then your assumption about the choice of the 65 yr old men is not only false but deliberately malicious....
It almost points you as a very nasty, narcissistic person.
Take a deep breath. Put your brain on and read again.
The hypothetical 65 year old in this scenario thinks his vote will get that black/brown healthcare worker deported. It’s doesn’t mean he’s right. Such a person doesn’t even understand how immigration works because he’s dumb. He just assumes anyone who’s not white is illegal. And that’s why he votes for Trump. Instead, he’s voting against himself because he lacks knowledge.
Apparently you lack knowledge too because I had to break down this simple scenario for you to grasp it. (If you actually did)
Seems like you just learned the term narcissistic. Do you know what it means? Do you require another breakdown too?
Calitoscassius: Total lies! Absolute crap! Could you tell us the name of this 65 years old? Does she/he have a name?
Do you know what a hypothetical is? Y’all are dumb Argh.
Alearna: What the Bleep did I just read? You're one of the many retards and morons on Nairaland. What the hell?
People are entitled to their opinions and decisions, who they vote for or not. It's a fucking democracy.
Just fucking shut your mouth, you're sounding like a broken record.
If you’ve never lived in America and taken care of patients who threaten to deport you when they are upset, you have no understanding of the scenario I just painted for you. This is why many of you should keep quiet
Cousin9999: It wasn't Nigerians that voted for Trump though. So when more news like this drops, it's time to celebrate their consequences. Tell them to start packing their 94 year old granny's bags, and wish her luck in Sicily or Moscow.
Starzo: Have you ever considered the possibility that you might actually be the stupid one and not them?
A 65 year old low income diabetic patient who votes for Trump because he hopes Trump will deport the brown and black healthcare workers helping him is the height of stupid. Because now he’s lost his affordable insulin due to letting his hate instead of his brain lead him. I hope you’re not one of those kind of idiots
Was that you or your uncle standing on that podium saying white supremacists have fine people among them? My eyes can see what’s Trump. My ears hear his voice saying it. But we know you guys live in an alternate reality
Sometimes it’s okay to cover your face in shame and walk away when you’ve been owned. 😬
Starzo: It's ok if you feel concerned about how his policies affect you who never agreed with them hence your refusal to vote for him
But I made my comment in relation to you always saying 'we warned those who voted for him'(something you always do whenever you want to criticize his policies) ...they made their choice. They knew what he was about before voting for him. You're not going to dictate to them what they should do.
From your rude response tho,it's no surprise you feel entitled to tell others what they should do and how they should feel.
You're a very rude, self-absorbed individual. People who don't see things your way don't deserve to have an opinion in your small mind.
You have some nerve approaching me with rudeness and expecting civility in response. Making assumptions about what I care or don’t care about without knowing me. Maybe you’re used to people placating you when you approach them sideways. You’re not getting that from me.
Before making assumptions or talking about what you don’t know, do your findings first.
You’re an idiot because I saw the video myself and heard him say it with his own mouth.
That there were fine people on both sides while he was addressing white supremacist terrorists protesting in charlotte NC. Next thing you’ll say the protest never happened.
He wanted to avoid criticizing them. So he said there were fine people on both sides as a way to placate them. Who refers to white supremacists as fine people?