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Lilbrown007:
ARE YOU ONE OF THEM?? EVEN THE BIBLE IS NOT "LOGICAL"

go and try naaa
Rubbish, no Muslim ever Leaves their faith and makes any noise about it, but you will see church goers, who at no time took up the bible to study, always be making a fool of themselves, any ways I blame the churches themselves who have deviated and are after money and power, well the bible said it clearly, in the last days critical times hard to deal with will be here for men will be lovers of themselves, fierce, not open to any agreement, lovers of money, professing a form of godly devotion but proving false to its power, so I am not surprised.

a warning to all atheists never you argue with a Jehovah's Witness, because they surly will defeat your "logical" thinking, honestly, because they are the ones who understand and study the bible deeply, a lot of so called Christians don't really know what the Bible is all about, that is why your "logic" defeats them.

erico2k2:
True
@ GAZZUZZ, I think this is what I found at with my fan hence I made reference to it.I think my car has one of those fans controlled by the ECU and not a fuse and relay set up.cos U can never directly run wires from the battery to it to make it work it wont work, I tried it, I ended up buying a brand new fan still did not work.Problem was a stuck heating valve and leaky radiator. 318Ci 2002

did you connect it to the DC motor itself? There must be power and ground for it to work, the fan is Pulse Width Modulated, one is constant and the other is pulsed (ground and power), if you test it with a scope you will get a square wave, which is called duty cycle ( one of my friend says Dootie saikle) on and off signal, at the end it is still power and ground, maybe you didn't test the correct wires, you know these Germans and their over engineering, very simple things become soooooooo complicated and complex, (it is not your fault BTW). The same system is used in Toyota matrix I think from 2003 to 2008 to be precise, in the factory service manual, they showed how to test the fan itself.

Op when I say test light, I don't mean the one you made on your own, because chances are that the bulb you will use will draw too much current, so you have to buy a professional test light with not more than 200mA ratings. According to Mr Paul danner (pbuh), computer electronics use 100mA, testing the circuit with a 200mA test light will not damage it, I doubted it and tried it and it worked, now, here is a practical way you can test it without a car, I remember a while ago I took an LED and connected it directly to a 12v battery, it just flashed for a millisecond or so and went out, so it got burnt, without any sign, then I took a resistor and connected it in series to another LED, this time the LED lighted up and stayed on until I disconnected it from the battery,I tried it on a tail light bulb, the bulb didn't glow,even a little bit, so I took the same resistor connected it in series with the positive lead of the DMM and connected it in series also to the battery and I still got 12v, even the other lead gave the same result, how do you explain this? It is simple, current has to flow, and current is not another word for volts. Paul danner has made several videos on how to test three wire Wheel speed sensor circuitry using a common test light (200mA maximum!) or use a resistor in series. You need to see those videos, they are free of charge.

calliope:
Institutionalized transphobia and homophobia has blinded the eye of

Nigerians, and I loved that show

Well its doesn't change d fact I am Cait is topping veiwship around the

world! Nigerians can goan kill demslves

GOD BLESS THE TRANSGENDER COMMUNITY

Abomination

Siena:
[color=Blue]Lots of modern cooling fans are shifting away from the traditional fuse and relay set up, where they were pretty much stand alone systems, with a radiator-mounted thermo switch.

My 2000 Audi A4 4.2 V8 Quattro actually has a stand alone cooling fan control module. The circuit is also linked to the climate control panel, and testing voltages other than the fat 12V direct to the fans with a bulb, will pop not just the control module, but also the digital climate control panel. I have come across folk who have popped these testing the circuitry with an analogue voltmeter, which has no internal power, and relies on voltage from the component you're checking for voltage at. These have less internal resistance than a bulb, yet they are still capable of wrecking any semi-conductors.

Then there are cooling fans which are actually controlled by the engine ECU, via the CTS. You don't want to be testing this with a bulb. Yes, there are parts of a circuit that have a direct 12V+ feed. But, for the avoidance of errors, test bulbs are frowned upon in the industry. A competent technician should learn to interpret readings with a digital multimeter, LED power probe, oscilloscope or picoscope.

Dealerships here supply SST's, so every tool required for testing is available to all their technicians. If an audit was carried out, and a tech was found testing circuitry with a bulb, he / she would get a disciplinary, and the dealership would be marked down on the audit. I have seen that happen countless times.

I had a technician from a local garage testing pulses to injectors using a bulb, and of course, he got nothing. He ripped out the wiring harness, and when replacement gave the same results, he concluded the ECU was bad. £1200 later, the car still wouldn't run. This is when the car was towed to my place. The fault? A blown 15A fuse that feeds the switched 12V+ which is common to all the injectors. This was in a 2009 Mercedes-Benz E320. Cost of repair? Half an hours labour, and .76p for a fuse.

It could have been worse, God knows what this garage billed their customer (I didn't get to meet him / her).[/color]

What you said is correct, but even in ultra modern cars, a test light has its place, the fan you are talking about, if I understand, is PWM controlled, but the DC motor it self needs positive and negative to work. So in this case one will need to make sure the circuit still has its integrity, there is another tool called the load pro, it does almost the thing, put a load on the circuit, The same system you just elaborated used in Toyota Matrix

diportivo:

Story!
Part seller for ladipo gat no chill
#teambrainbox

hahahahahahahahaha, abeg take am easy

erico2k2:
, Ok I understand what you mean and in a way I'm so sorry for using the word QUACK,I have had a moment of rethink.
On a diff note that's try error procedure.This what the rewire does, they end up frying your ECU,well if you get teh heart you can continue but if you come across a well informed customer and you fry their components you don enter one chance be that
But you do know there is a probe for this right and it doesn't cost a arm and leg,these are cheap,I wil love you to buy these if U are into it.
ie this bellow

That is why I said, it MUST be done with a wiring diagram, so you don't end up causing more problems.

erico2k2:
wen u say test l ight hope you dont mean light bulb

hahahahaa of course I mean a light bulb, because there has to be a current flow, but it must be done with a wiring diagram.
Remember Current V=IR
V is voltage or pressure or potential difference

I is Current or the main little devils themselves

R is resistance or the opposition to the flow of the little devils.

So sometimes you will need to load the circuit to test its integrity. You must do it with a wiring diagram so as not to cause more trouble.

Siena:
[color=Blue]Does a light bulb tell you what voltage you're reading? Does it tell what the polarity is? We're talking bulb here, not an LED.

Just so you know, a bulb has a hell of a lot more internal resistance than a digital multimeter. Measure across the 5V reference outputs from an ECU, and you could kill it. Same goes for measuring V in sensitive modules like instrument clusters, ABS modules, TCU's etc.

I have not had a test bulb amongst my test equipment for over 2 decades. I do have an LED power probe, and I seldom use even that. Voltmeters, oscilloscopes or picoscopes are all safe to use, and I rely more on these as modern systems become more complex, and measured voltages become smaller. Try measuring 900mV with a 12V 10/21W tungsten bulb, and see what the results are.

A technician who will not invest in a digital multimeter that starts from as low as £4.99 is a cowboy.[/color]

test light (scope on a rope, lol), DMM and oscilloscope and scan tool are the four basic diagnostic tools a technician needs for the trade.

GAZZUZZ:
both have a role to play in diagnosis.

yeah exactly, and you also need an oscilloscope (this one na the father).

What exactly do you mean? The scan tool is unable to communicate with the brain box
take your test light and connect the lead to the negative terminal or the frame of the car and touch the number 4 pin on the dlc, the DLC is the port to which you connect the scan tool. If it does not light up then recheck the fuses.

www.automotivetroubleshootingsecrets.com/2014_auto_wiring_dlc.html to know where pin number 4 is
BTW it is called ECU not brain box,

papparatzzi2013:
We are all watching in 3D.

What has happened to Tony Blair or George Bush Jnr?

so buhari is no longer an African, ICC is for Africans if you don't know

mrvitalis:
If he dies he dies, he can say he don't know what is happening in his committee make noise if u wish that's all there is nothing will happen

Quote me if u like

Nigeria has over pampad this Niger Delta people, I know the North and west will regret not allowing igbos dominant this people for goodness sake

Every thing is oppression, maybe is time to show u people what operation truly is

illiteracy is a disease.

bestiyke:
I LVG to because he would have improve more next season. Sir Alex Ferguson we are celebrating today did not start winning titles @ his first season in charge of Man U. It took him like five seasons to win the first FA cup. But he left the club with about 20 trophies. Patience.

why una hate man united like this.

Shukuakukobambi:
Ive not seen a zoo engage in a war before except when trying to hold recalcitrant and mad animals in check. If you've seen a zoo engage in a war, congrats.

Meanwhile, are you getting scared? Let the bombers continue. They're in my prayers.

Forget that thing, the Niger delta avengers will only make new widows, Nigeria army are at war every blessed day, with one group or the other, still they cannot point to one they won, they will go and catch innocent people. Now it will be nnpc people. lol

Shukuakukobambi:
How many hairs did OBJ lose with Odi invasion?

How much sleep did GEJ lose over the 50 massob members massacred and dumped in Ezzu river?

Anyway let the bombers continue and let the military give them chance to finish what they started. Its for the betterment of all Nigerians

Rubbish, tell me one war wey the zoo army don win, phools, when it gets to innocent civilians, they flex muscles, but against armed and trained combatants they melt like ice in an oven

Segadem:
hmmmmm, both of them are overrated coach, they choose the best team to coach, buy the best players by the power of money given to them, then tell me how they will not succed?

Porto of 2004? hahahahahaha

amagunnerfan:
Your father once again. You realised I am someone's father?

Did I abuse you before you said go to hell? If my child see that misguided statement you think she will be happy.

Once again, I will go to hell, to meet your father and your mother who refused to train you. Idiotic waste of a sp*rm.

See as ee dey pain you, my parents are enjoying my hard work okay? if your parents are useless id1ots that is for you, man united is not my father's property, so I care less, all I have to tell you is Jose Mourinho is our coach and there is absolutely nothing you son of vermin can do about it, and just prepare our 6 points, okay?

Manutd19:
do you think Guardiola guarantee success? Ancelloti? Simeone? Ferguson? Klopp?
You take a calculated assessment based on their achievement, status e.t.c
none of those managers aside from fergie has Mourinho's record. Is he a better manager than Pep, Ancelloti? Won't say YES. Is he a better epl coach than them? Big YES!
Does he guarantee success? Won't say yes.
Is it a good decision to appoint him by united? BEST!

Even though i wasn't a fan of Jose, you've to give it to the guy. He loves challenges unlike a certain ......
He played boring football?
Did porto played boring football?
Did you watch his first chelsea team of Duff, Lampard, robben, Gudjon?
Inter?
His madrid team had the most point and had d highest goal diff in la liga history. Boring?
Chelsea was scoring for fun last season under him not until lake jan, when fatigue set in.
He mostly park the bus against barca whom to be fair, are hard to play against.
Aside from his personal attitude, he's good for united!

You are nothing but a real red devil, GGMU

will the death of nnamdi KANU bring about a progressive Nigeria? If yes how?Somebody please answer me.

dottozil:
cos people said it during Moyes does that makes it a lie

asAnal Fan prepare our six points for us oooo!

dottozil:
Success is not about appointing a big name manager is about appointing the right manager

that was the same thing people said when we appointed Moyes. Hahahahahahahahahahahaha

dottozil:
do u tink hiring mourinho guarantess success, even the board of directors at man united are confused about hiring him, let us just hope he will be a success

shh they were not in confusion, LVG was given a chance to see if he will take man united to champions league, but all we got is "your expectations are too high" please GTFOH.

dottozil:
lol, am so surprised about were you got your own news about Ferguson wanting mourinho as his successor, No TV news or news paper said that the only thing we heard is that fergunson himself hand picked Moyes. For the sake of this thread you can tell us were you got that from

mais voila! you are not a red devil, because if you were, you would have known this. It was on the lips of every red devil worldwide.

Manutd19:
Let's get one thing straight here, no big club going through what united is going through will employ an average coach.
Barcelona could risk employing pep . They were not poor then. They had great quality players. Had Ronaldinho, Puyol, Abidal, xavi, Eto, with very good talented young players in Messi, iniesta. They had just one team to compete with (Real Madrid). They almost employed Mourinho sef, but they were in a great position to risked pep. Same with madrid with zidane. Have ronaldo, marcelo, bale, james, kroos, benzema etc...and even d president wanted mourinho(he rejected) before opting for zidane.
Man united is in deep shit, short of quality players, keeper winning best player 3 year in a row, no champe to attract players, shit style of football e.t.c. Any manager not named mourinho, pep, ancelloti, simeone, might melt and sink d club more. Above all things, the winning is the most important thing now. Every other thing is already down. No playing identity, no attraction, no european football.......
You must be joking thinking Giggs can do the job. If it was the 2008-2012 team, maybe not this present united team. Do you think Zidane & luis enrique are better than an average epl manager? They have a great team in a league with less competition.

no mind these people, they are assAnal, cheshit and manshitty fans in panic mode

dottozil:
Am a typical die hard united fan

no you are not!

dottozil:
Ronald koeman, or better we leave giggsy

koeman is not good enough, giggs should try his hands in smaller clubs first before taking on man united. He should have some coaching experience first, look at seedorf, did he do anything in ac Milan? what about is it fillipo inzaghi , they should start small first.

dottozil:
thats were we got it all wrong, we dont need to compete with any team our job is to focus on our club developing moreover guardiola and deigo simeone took over from barca and atletico at d clubs worst tyms and they are not know then, y can't giggs do dis

stop panicking and prepare our six points for us, see arsenal fans dey tell us what we should do