₦airaland Forum

flokii:
You can see the gap in total population of both countries.. it simply means they would go through less stress to effect rapid changes in their electoral system compared to Nigeria. Benin republic too has gone very far.
Corruption is another factor, it has eaten deep into the Nigerian system.. not that we don't have good people that desire positove change.

Someone can come to a public forum to PROUDLY AND CONFIDENTLY exhibit ignorance, stupidity and rettarddedness like this.

It's amazing!!

Realdeals:
Labour won't have it easy shutting down the country like they did on Monday.

Why?

They were being understanding and reasonable calling off the strike so that govt can at least propose something tangible.

They agreed it would be more than 60k only to now add 2k they don't want to pay more that the added wage palliative they were giving workers for 6months

If they call for the strike again it would be intensive like the first time and nobody would blame them this time

Tinubunomics

raskymonojendor:
Who cares?
Do you not think cost of living will also go up massively if minimum wage was massively pushed up.

NLC should ask for a realistic increase not an unrealistic one.

The govt that is going to pay should also make a realistic suggestion.

After increasing fuel and electricity by about 300%. Inflation has skyrocketed with price of foodstuff. Let's not talk about transport, sch fees, housing and clothing which are basic necessities. They are proposing 60k?

tutudesz:
Politicians can't steal with civil servant helping them Civil servant are the ones that run everything, from Contract cost, Contract vetting process, etc.

I totally agree. But it seems the politicians are only ones cashing out so let the civil servant cash out through a reasonable minimum wage.

If the politicians can buy 150m jeeps for themselves, collect 30m monthly, do anyhow with security votes while making policies that will make common man suffer the workers want to also enjoy a living wage.

Let all of us be mad na.

tutudesz:
And the engine room of corruption too

So what are politicians?

Naija na cruise

Jokerman:
Oga, let the FG cut down some moribund workers...

S realistic minimum wage should be 100K for government offices, and private workers 50/60K.

Private school teachers should not drop less than 40K as minimum wage for NCE grads, and 60/70k for BSC... Increase schools fess, and reduce teachers,by retaining the effective ones.

Let Govt cut down on some workers, but of course party politics won't allow them....

They should cut their own salaries first before cutting any worker from work.

TOPCRUISE:
As Reported by idiots and fishbrains.

Rettardded dingbats they are.

Faiththatworks:
Although I'm very sympathetic to the cause of the Labor leaders but this method adopted isn't working.
I have been reading some report including this one showing labour leaders resorting to using force to get people involved in the strike.
I daresay this is nonsensical,how do you force people to be involved in a strike that is supposedly fighting for the rights.
This strike is a big failure and I expect the propaganda department of Labour stop all this posting of pictures showing the strike had any effect in Nigeria.
School children went to school today,the transport unions are working at least in Lagos,even some banks are opened so which strike are the labour leaders deceiving themselves is effective.
It will only get worse if they continue to thread this path, immediately Government sees the people are not behind these leaders,their strike will become totally ineffective.
My advice to labor leaders is to come down from their inflated high horse and accept a minimum of 700000-80000 as the minimum wage.
God bless Nigeria.

Is 30 - 35M a month ok for senators that sit 3 times a week to be changing national anthem?

Not to talk of the N150m jeeps they bought for themselves.

Let all of us be mad together. It will a merry madness.

Shut down!!!

praz001:
That's the pure fact. That person is actually right. B4 day 7 of the strike, people will cry out...


How many private companies can pay 400k monthly? Even 150k. All we Neen is goat controlling price. Subsidising items like food..

Private sector cannot pay 400k or even 150k but politicians will comfortably take 30 - 35m monthly from tax payers money as salary.

And we should all continue to look.

Labour knows 400k is not feasible but want to something that would be reasonable for the workers, like 150k.

When the private sector cannot pay the 150k then we will really know the true state of this govt/country and why a senator will still be collecting 30- 35m monthly, not to talk of constituency project money and security votes the govs use to enrich themselves.

Workers want their share!

Streetinvestor2:
If you want pay like politicians. No one has stopped you from contesting. The 1.2 million workers don't represent the Nigerians on the street working more and earnings less than 60k.Why are most civil servant afraid of self employment.It is because they want free money for doing nothing in those offices. You are fighting for your pockets for 1.2 million of you corrupt workers. Who is fighting for the other Nigerian masses not making upto 60k after working harder everyday.
Which worker actually. Is it this ones we see every day reaping off fellow Nigerians in those offices. The workers and the politicians are all the same

It is obvious you are benefiting from one useless politician/senator who prioritizes national anthem change than actually solving salient problems and getting paid millions monthly for doing rubbish.

It is politicians that are not reaping off fellow Nigerians abi.

If you agree politicians and workers are the same why are you attacking the workers if they also want to benefit from doing nothing like the politicians.

Let all of us be mad.

Streetinvestor2:
The government should wake up to its responsibility. They should immediately declare no work no salary. And open opportunity for employment. They should not pay more than 60k for minimum wage.If you are not ok with it.You are not glued to the work.you resign for those ready to work.You can try self employment or go and farm.
Most of this civil servant are busy doing nothing in those offices from 9-4 pm.They go thr to only cut corners and frustrate Nigerians coming to those offices for something.
If you are not satisfied with your pay for your jservices.You quit. It is how iti s done in private sector.They won't because they know is free money they are collecting

Go and quit them na. Even if it's free money let them have it. What the senators and ministers and aides are collecting is reasonable to you abi.

You won't complain when they use 90billion for hajj, buy 150m jeeps for themselves, spend a stupendous amount of money for travelling, increase electricity and fuel over 300% so that ordinary citizens will continue to suffer.

They don't want to be reasonable in their spending but want citizens to suffer.

Yet it's workers output you are stressed about.

Lanre1st:
NLC never ready to collect anything. Where have you ever seen employers increase salary by 2,000% (two thousand percent). From 30,000 to 615,000

They should start negotiation a feasible amount like 100,000 to 150,000 minimum wages

Look at this one. Imaging what this one is saying.

Add all the percentage increase in food stuff, electricity, fuel which has affected transportation including raw materials and tell me what percentage increment it is.

Menclothing1:
10x it’s just 3 people in a state it’s an elective possition

Minimum wage is followed by factory and all businesses

People like you like to be oppressed except you are one of them benefiting from the system as it is.

If they were not collecting 35m monthly and some of them are not using tax payers money to pay sch fees for their children, buying N160m jeeps, 90million for hajj sponsor and all the malfeasance that all the senators, ministers, hor etc display, if all that money was channelled to the right things like solving electricity issues and refining our fuel with construction and maintenance of roads then labour wouldn't be demanding for such because there would be production and security guards and cleaners in the private sector will be able to receive a living wage from their employers.

AbuTwins:
This people no serious!

So how much will artisans collect now that minimum wage will be N615,000!

Sachet water/ factory workers!
Security men, etc!

Even the others above the minimum age will have to be increased to!

Inflation will rise the more!

But some people are collecting 35m per month so why can't sachet water and security collect ordinary 615k monthly.

If you are saying it's unreasonable, is it reasonable that one senator that sits in the house 3times a week be collecting 35M monthly. Letmenot talk about ministers and Govs and their aids.

With all these you never said anything about inflation.

Let everyone be reasonable.

Menclothing1:
Paying 615 is very easy for fedral government they will increase tax and what u buy 30k will now cost 615k

Nigeria current economy minimum wage should be 60k let’s improve our purchasing power by producing more local goods

In your opinion if the minimum wage is pegged at 60k what should be the salary of a senator?

imagrg:
You people want to completely finish the average Nigerians that aren't working.

Don't you know that this will heighten inflation in the country?

Rudderless people.

So the govt has been lenient with average Nigerians with what is happening?

When they buy 160m jeeps for themselves, collect about 30m monthly, increase taxes, electricity rate, fuel while using dollars to bribe each other during elections, they did not finish the average Nigerian abi and all of these did nothing to affect inflation.

When one idiot can pay sch fees of his children for years and the sch had to refund the part of the money means nothing to you.

This guy managed a state for 8yrs, if he can do this, imaging what he did for that 8yrs then multiply by 36gov to see the negative impact. Let's not talk about ministers.

It is now labours request of a minimum wage that will cause inflation. Seems you just discovered the word INFLATION and are eager to use it.

abbey621:
You're the one regurgitating nonsense, the number one rule of negotiation is not to low ball or throw unrealistic figures! How do I know this? Apart from two MBA degrees, I have vast experience in both public and private sectors. In short, a government that hardly pays 30k per month minimum wage, YOU WANT TO START NEGOTIATING FROM 600K? NO BE JUJU BE THAT? Is the intention negotiating or pissing off the other party? My friend wake up and stop being sentimental this isn't spare parts market . When you're ready to have a discourse based on logic and reality let me know. For now, just REST!

Just go try get a refund for the money spent on your 2 MBAs if they are truly genuine and as for the experiences in public and private sectors, it's a total waste of time judging from what you have been spewing here.

abbey621:
You just admitted the system isn't fair, so what makes you think you'll ever get 600,000 minimum wage? We are talking about reality here not some pipe dream or fantasy......WAKE UP! If the system cannot be fair to the electorate, what makes you think you or labor have any power to force such astronomical wage increase?

This is the problem I have with most of y'all online warriors, you guyz are so deep into theoretical analysis that youy fail to consider the practicability, we can talk all day and twice on Sundays but the relaity is that neither you nor labor has the BALLS to effect such a change!

This your reply just shows you have not been reading what I have been saying. You have your opinion and just vomit it at every opportunity.

You are the one sleeping here. How many times have I written in reply to you that even labour knows they can't get the 615k but it's a good place to start negotiating. The system isn't fair that means there are those benefiting and those not benefiting, labour is only using the 615k as bench mark to get something reasonable from this vampires they call politicians

If the minimum wage remains at 30k and inflation continues to rise like it has been doing these evil politicians will still buy that 160 jeep, share dollars amongst themselves and everyone will still be abusing them and doing nothing. All the abuses we have been abusing them, what or where has it gotten us all.

Seems you don't know how to get practicality from these politicians. So labour should go to the table with 100k as minimum wage and you think the govt will not want to negotiate it to 50k. If you still don't get the logic then am sorry for you.

bentenny:
Shut ur mouth!
Why are U not attacking him the same way U were attacking Obi?
Very simple!
You minions are so afraid of the north and would do anything not to talk any trash against them but U instantly turn to tiger just like Omockery when U see Obi!
Nonsense!

Where is Umahi? Is Atiku not instigating the North against Tinubus Govt with this write up.

I just tire for some people.

abbey621:
WHO VOTED THEM IN?

You talk as if voting in this country is fair and that the votes actually reflects what the people want.

Regardless, we saw how someone explained how to get power by grabbing, snatching and running away with it aided by Ineck who announced results in the middle of the night.

That Ineck even allowed someone who couldn't prove he went to any sec sch to contest leaves a lot to be desired. He actually went to a sec sch before the sec sch was established. He need to have been in the guineas book of records with that feat.

One before him didn't have waec, contested and SUPPOSEDLY WON, the next ones profile was filled with all sorts of controversies and you are asking who voted.

Labour just wants their fair share.

DeOTR:
It's a misplaced priority. I'd rather they bench minimum wage as a percentage of the average salary of our legislators, even if it's beyond the current proposal.
Nobody will take them seriously and they'll be at the weaker end of the bargain until they start doing that

So who is supposed to do this? Senators who are custodian of making laws and who are benefiting from the system or Labour.

Tell me why the senators will do what you are suggesting. Please tell me. I want to learn.

abbey621:
Do you own a company? Have you ever had to pay people's wages and salaries? Do you know that wages and salaries should never be more than a certain percentage of what a company makes?

My point is simple, a 1000% increase is INSANITY, labor can say or do whatever they want, it is up to a responsible government to tell them f*ck off!

A 28M to 35M salary for senators and HOR is not insanity.
Buying jeeps worth 160M for themselves is not insanity

Removing subsidy without a plan and increase in electricity tariffs is not insanity. And then floating the naira for whatever reason is not insanity. Coupled with other extravagant irrelevant nonsense they do that we don't know

What Yahaya Bello is being chased about for is probably what most Govs are doing in different ways yet the likes of you would not shout to high heavens that it's insanity.


Where was this energy when all this were done. To now do something that is also INSANITY for the civil servant is now insanity.

It is the activities of these elite, especially those in govt that has brought us where we are today. So if labour wants to take their share, allow them and stop making noise about it being insanity. They most likely wouldn't even get the 615k they are asking for.

The tragedy is that these guys don't have a clue as to how to get us out o f this mess and are will to plunder even more while the masses continue to suffer.

To think that you think this govt is responsible is pitiable.

abbey621:
You're using sentiments, you want to compare people that are stealing to salary earners....DEY PLAY! A good place to start, una no dey use logic

What is your point. Minimum wage negotiation is on the table and regardless of sentiments Labour should try to get the best out of people you yourself claim are thieves.

Is it the same thieves that you also want to reduce inflation that you think will want to do anything to disrupt their stealing channel.

Na you dey play.

abbey621:
Who's going to pay it? Is it the same people struggling to pay 30k? If they can claim lack of funds to pay 30k on time, what gives you the confidence that they'll ever pay over 1000% increase, NO BE JUJU BE THAT?

No they will struggle to pay. But when they Govs and senators want to discuss an issue they will travel abroad to go discuss it, buy 160m jeep each for their comfort coupled with the constituency and security votes that they siphon each month, bribe each other with dollars during election, increase electricity tariffs at their discretion and then devalue the naira for whatever reason and the corruption that follows they don't see any reason to struggle for all that but to pay higher wages they will struggle and people like you will only see when the struggling masses are trying to do something to survive.

The 615k might be unrealistic but it's a good place to start.

DeOTR:
Same idiots that can't pay people in their employ 30k monthly? Let's be reasonable abeg.
I support a significant increase in the minimum wage, but to be honest with you, 600k is too outrageous.
Something around 100k should be fine.
It's not enough to be fighting for minimum wage abeg, labor should also be fighting against the maximum wage.
At least, let them base minimum wage as a percentage of the maximum wage of any public servant, elected or appointed.
Something like, the minimum wage should not be less than 1% of a senator's take home pay for instance.

Until they do that labour should ask for more.

olaideeeedris:
I am sure these guys are not really serious with this thing they are doing. Increments in salary will only invite inflation. For me, I think what the workers shout fight for is the naira purchasing power. If my salary is 20k, I should be able to purchase good things with it. For example, with 20k salary:
Bag of rice.... #950
House rent (annually)... #230
Sch fees (private sch)... #110 (very expensive)
Car (moderate).... #6500
Buy a house... #4250 etc
Oya wake me up!!

I agree with you but I ask you a simple question. Do these guys look like people that are interested in strengthening the naira when they travel out just to discuss matters that could have been done here. They purchase jeeps at 160m each for themselves allocate to themselves all sorts of allowances and use the dollars to bribe each other during elections and then expect workers to depend on them to strengthen the purchasing power of the naira. You are on a long tiin.

Labour know they will not get that 615k they are asking for but the 615k breakdown highlights the reality and it's a good place to negotiate and get a good minimum wage for the workers because these guys don't send you a civil servant and they also no send consequences of their frivolities. It doesn't matter to them so why should it matter to labour.

They will continue to spend as they like and make you a civil servant be expectant for better life till you retire.

seunny4lif:
Ah
Haba
They should be asking realistically salary jooor
Max the F.G will pay is 100K per month and that one self no sure.

Labour leaders trying to get the Federal Government to increase salaries

But it is realistic for an individual to get a N160m jeep and be collecting N35M monthly as salary because he is a senator.

They can't be realistic but want others to be realistic and zombies will be supporting and agreeing with them even when they are not benefiting anything from the senators.

People that have worked 35yrs will not even see 1M naira from govt when they retire while someone who stays minimum 4yrs as senator or house of rep will be collecting millions from tax payers money.

Sickening.

So you increase the bill so that I will switch off appliances like freezers to manage the electricity you manage to provide.

People should be paid by the govt for when there is not light.

Useless insensitive bunch of miserable slobs.