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Onyenna:
GBAM!

The officers were so right... A mentally unstable person like him shouldn't be driving......

They will be sacked. How can u be hitting someone like that. Does the law states they should hit someone like that. There are better ways to handle it. It just shows they lack orientation. They would hv called the police or just free the man

They just lost their jobs. Dont these guys take psychological courses. Instead of hitting the man in the head , there are better ways to resolve this. I am sure they were trained on how to handle issues like this

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jaxxy:
Some not all. I went to Navy school and grew up around mostly military people. Naval ratings and soldiers do these stuffs. It’s temporary.

Some are drivers and escorts. Nothing new here. If the guy is in a hurry to fight war he shud chill he will be posted.

It shouldnt be so. These big Ogas to given allowances to recruit house helps and cleaners and drivers. Why not use the allowance instead of enslaving and disrespecting an officer. It shouldnt be so. Same thing applies to a graduate, you would see university graduate running errands, going to banks, going to buy food for Oga. This country tire me I swear

jaxxy:
Some not all. I went to Navy school and grew up around mostly military people. Naval ratings and soldiers do these stuffs. It’s temporary.

Some are drivers and escorts. Nothing new here. If the guy is in a hurry to fight war he shud chill he will be posted.

Why should they be doing all these house chores? Are you aware this big Ogas are given allowances for house helps, drivers and other house allowances. What is there to pay someone 25k to clean your house monthly. He can escort the kids,but I think the man's kid must have been doing stuffs to him that would make him feel very unworthy to done the uniform. I see a revolution coming soon in Nigeria. It will happen in my time

danielconstant:
You can't wait? ....who are you waiting for? ....What if I tell you that the world is waiting for you to evaluate and produce that

With his nigerian coconut head?

Why do I find this so funny

So because you worked for Shell or whatever oil company for 26 years, you should be a multi-millionaire in dollars and a billionaire in naira? Were you a mere emploee or a part-owner/entrepreneur? How much were his salaries and benefits all through his 26 years as an EMPLOYEE? How much did he spend campaigning for the senate, the previous failed attempts to be governor, and the eventually successful campaign? If he is still a billionaire after all these money gulping campaigns, that means he must have been worth tens of billionns before entering politics? All earned through 'dint of hardwork'. . .as an employee?

A lot doesn't add up here. I always marvel at how Nigerians (especially ignorant females) tend to justify questionable wealth with silly rationalizations: 'oh he is a top bank manager' (does that explain how come he owns a N300m house in VGC?); 'oh he works in NNPC' (is that enough for him to have 4 kids in foreign universities, and a house in Maitama?). It is only in Nigeria that someone retires as an employee with whatever company or government agency and is suddenly worth billions. How? Did the company allocate substantial shares to him (like is the case with CEOs of Fortune 500 corporations)? This country is just a huge joke. . .corruption is the very life blood of the nation, and almost everybody is involved - directly or indirectly.

Guy do you know what it means to work in oil company for 26 years. Dont be ignorant. If you channel the money wisely, you would have so much

bolseas:
Instead of radios, why not provide the necessary facilities in the school premises to enable pupils resume. Hand sanitisers, liquid soap, water tanks, fumigate the school premises, purchase face masks for both pupils and teachers etc...

I wonder how these politicians reason.

In this covid 19 period. How will they use it biko?

Bokoharam boys go just comot spray bullet

When willthey shut down Access Bank

How can you go for patrol without first surveying your area? Haba Na. Before you move out there should be enough surveillance andim information gathering to avoid stuffs like this

cooltola:
You still missing the point. Confession while preaching does not mean going into details on how a preacher used to do this or that. Not everyone in the church is matured and some are still baby. Imagine a pastor preaching how God deliver him from fornication, but he started naming specific area e.g i used to go xyz joint in xyz city where i was younger to get women but thank God i am saved. For someone in the church who is not matured enough he might be tempted to go there and check the place out. That is my point

While will someone go there when the pastor cited people got HIV , some people lost their lives to cultist. You sef reason am now. But God saved him. E get as person go tell u him experience about bet9ja for instance how was once addicted and lost his car and marriage n children, even new people wey want go into am go fear

cooltola:
You are missing the point and i get your point of view. It is okay for a preacher to say i used to steal, kill or whatever sin they used to do. But it is very wrong for them to go into details , it is like they are bragging about their past life and most do not sound remorseful. Imagine an ex governor going into details how he loot people's salaries for his personal gain and how lavished the money even though he has repented and he is born again , someone may want to kill him because it is offensive The same apply to the church, it is offensive to some members.

You are right n wrong. Do you know how many people loot in this country? Even those ones doing npower loot. It is not just the politicians. So if he says that his past was dirty, and tells people the pros n cons and why they shouldnt, I guess it will pull more weight. There is no message preached n church that isnt offensive to people. You would always pull blood from someones present experience or past one

seyi360:
"He doesn't know anything" really? Empty barrels make the loudest noise. Your narcissistic self is dangerous to you.

"I have left his case to his Pastor"- You are clearly hallucinating here

"That is why he is having issues with his pastor's style of preaching" - do you even know me?

I guess you should come off your horse of pride and puncture your over bloated self .

You better go n fry your fish, it seems that is what you can do best. Sense is really far from you. You are highly unintelligent.

It doesnt mean that because they are in heaven they lived a perfect n sinless life. Dont get me wrong. The armed robber with Xhrist on the cross is in heaven, does it mean he lived a perfect life? It is hard to live a perfect life without sin, that is my point. We sin everyday but we could always ask for forgiveness. Stop quoting unneccsary scriptures , it is unnecessary in this context. No one can he has lived a perfect live in this our era

HeavenlyHolines:
Hahaha. One billion people from d day of creation till now. Read about heaven in revelation, u will find countless number of people in heaven. Please believe it,it possible.1 Peter 1:14 As obedient children, not fashioning yourselves according to the former lusts in your ignorance:
1:15 But as he which hath called you is holy, so be ye holy in all manner of conversation; 1:16 Because it is written, Be ye holy; for I am holy.

1 billion people ke? Lolz. You just being dogmatic. You are not pragmatic. Then that means almost anyone would enter heaven and what Jesus said about entering heaven being hard as a camel entering the eye of a needle a lie. EvenWhen God wanted to destroy Sodom n Gomorah, in the whole city only one perso was a righteous man. A perfect man is different from a righeous man. That is another thing. There is no one that doesnt commit sin, even you typing this message I am sure u would commit sin today. I am tired of this to n fro arguments with u

HeavenlyHolines:
I mentioed doesn't mean there r not billion of people who have lived and is living that God kind of life. With and by the grace of God, you can do it. Yours is to submit to God and watch him do the rest. Read about Zachariah and Elizabeth, they were blameless before God. The doctrine of perfection is not man but God just like marriage and there is nothing that is hard from him to do. If u don't believe it,you can get it. 99.9% wouldn't get u to heaven. What God wants from us his perfection (100%)

VictorOluwaseun:
@ code Genesis
You can just correct seyi without an insult now..
If your fellow brother made a mistakes,you could just correct him in meekness not arrogantly

It is annoying now. The seyi guy is full of himself when he doesnt know anything. I have left his case to his pastor. That is why he is having issues with his pastor style of preaching.

seyi360:
You ain't worth it, you have comprehension issues.

Like i said you dont have any valid scriptures to back up your points. Of course, you are unintelligent that is why. In conclusion, the pros outweigh the cons. In future when you are dealing with a stubborn kid or relation, you would understand why some people bring in these details. Shalom

DennisEche:
Coming from a preacher on the altar is uncalled for. Some might hear such and would want to try it, by saying if the pastor can do such and repent why not him/her.
I rest my case , my last response to you.
Shalom

There is just one of the cons? What about the pros. Those that are already in it. The probability of someone doing such is low. Because the pastor would be intelligent enough to let them know the pros and cons of such. The main catch would be those who are deep in it. If I hv 10 people and i told them I was once an armed robber and I was almost burnt to death. I show them my scars from the fire incidence, how many people would want to do it?? But if there are 3 arm robbers, there is a high probability one might repent. I dont know what to say again. You and seyi na same thing. The pros outweigh the cons

I said you are an olodo and you are very unintelligent with a big coconut head. I am right.
See portion of the bible below when Paul was telling christians how he killed them and wanted to put them in chains.


Acts 22
New Life Version
Paul Tells of His Past Life
22 Paul said, “Brothers and fathers, listen to what I have to say to you.” 2 When they heard him speak to them in their own language, they stopped making noise. Then he said,

3 “I am a Jew. I was born in the city of Tarsus in the country of Cilicia. When I was a young man, I lived here in Jerusalem. I went to Gamaliel’s school and learned all about the Law of our early fathers. I worked hard for God as you all do today.

4 “I worked hard and killed men and women who believed as I believe today. I put them in chains and sent them to prison. 5 The head religious leader and the leaders of the people can tell you this is true. I got letters from them to take to our Jewish brothers in the city of Damascus. I was going there to put the Christians in chains and bring them to Jerusalem where they would be beaten.

seyi360:
Rather you are the olodo and coconut head who cannot read to comprehend.
My first line says " there should be a limit " Google the word limit , it will help.
Which of Paul's words in those verses you quoted sound insensitive, extreme , immoral, bizzare and strange to you. In fact, he was ignorantly fighting for God which was the way they practised Judaism. Equivalent to a Muslim narrating his overzealousness for God.

I thought you would show me the scripture where Paul mentioned that he slept with people's wives , raped people's daughters and gave graphic details of how he did them.

Oversabi Bible scholar

seyi360:
Again, read to understand. Don't inject your predisposed prejudiced perception into this topic.

Uncle, I have seen that you not smart. You cant portray your points in a lucid manner. So just avoid my mentions since you think you know it all and you are not ready to learn and grow.

DennisEche:
Pls learn the difference between talking of his past success and achievement and a preacher talking of how he was a stud in the past.

You are not still getting it wrong. It all depends on the purpose. We all do it. We tell someone of our past, one we not proud of, we do it to let people know it doesnt really pay to live such a life and if I can stop it and become someone better, you can

HeavenlyHolines:
My dear,when you are talking about sin,try to distinguish it from mistakes which as humans we can make but as a Christian in this dispensation of grace, it's very possible to live above sin n that is d reason Christ came. I hope this help:
1 John 3:8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
3:9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
1 John 5:18 We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not.
Daniel, Joseph, Enoch and our Lord and saviour Jesus Christ lived a sinless life. It's very possible to be perfect. If you hunger for it, you can b a god in this world. Don't follow the general mindself of people that say ' we are fish and we can do without water, we are monkeys, we can do without trees and bananas'.
1 Thessalonians 5:23 And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.
5:24 Faithful is he that calleth you, who also will do it. Shalom

You said Daniel, Enoch, Joseph n Jesus Christ lived a sinless life. This is just 4 people out of billions of people. It is very very hard to live a life without sin. To live a perfect life is very very difficult. That is why Jesus Christ came to make everything seamless for us with God

Chai I am done. Trespasses means sin.Stop turning the bible upside down. There is nothing talking about Father and son relationship. It is about us accepting that we are sinners and confessing our sins to God so we can be forgiven. I repeat no one is above sin. Do you know what it means to go a day without sinning or a year with all the temptations. No one is without sin. Stop quoting plenty bible passages to justify what is not. Aby you no dey connit sin??

HeavenlyHolines:
The word trespasses there doesn't necessary sin which is prevalent or common. There is talking about father and son relationship not creator and creatures. Let use bible to juxtapose it.
1 John 2:1 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:
2:2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world. The verse one said 'if' which is a conditional word that means by mistake you derail,you can always come back to the cross and that was why God told Abraham about perfection. Which is very possible in ur daily work with God. Read about Daniel n Joseph, there was no faults or errors found in them.
1 John 5:16 If any man see his brother sin a sin which is not unto death, he shall ask, and he shall give him life for them that sin not unto death. There is a sin unto death: I do not say that he shall pray for it.
5:17 All unrighteousness is sin: and there is a sin not unto death. Here its talks about sin not unto death. This very one is different from the common sin. Just like the case of Peter when he denied Christ, Christ didn't judge him instantly coz he knew he was a weakling but he did such because he wasn't bold enough although he loved Christ but after d baptism of fire,he never did. Such incident strengthened him to become perfect

DennisEche:
Seyi360 big ups to you for bring on this topic. Any time I hear a preacher boasting about his women excesses in the past , it sounds so awkward and not necessary.

It is just your mindset working. Perhaps, you hate people who talk too much about their past achievements or success stories and you are these cool easy going guy that doesnt like to blow his trumpet. So anytime yiu hv a conversation with somehow and the person starts telling tales about their life, it kicks in

Our Father, Who art in heaven, hallowed be Thy name; Thy kingdom come; Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread; and forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us; and lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil. Sin is sin.There is nothing like mistakes



When Jesus was teaching us how to pray, why do you think he said we should ask for forgiveness of our trespasses? No one is above sin as far as I am concerned. We as humans must still sin but we have to ask for forgiveness and mercy from God.

HeavenlyHolines:
My dear,when you are talking about sin,try to distinguish it from mistakes which as humans we can make but as a Christian in this dispensation of grace, it's very possible to live above sin n that is d reason Christ came. I hope this help:
1 John 3:8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
3:9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
1 John 5:18 We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not.
Daniel, Joseph, Enoch and our Lord and saviour Jesus Christ lived a sinless life. It's very possible to be perfect. If you hunger for it, you can b a god in this world. Don't follow the general mindself of people that say ' we are fish and we can do without water, we are monkeys, we can do without trees and bananas'.
1 Thessalonians 5:23 And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.
5:24 Faithful is he that calleth you, who also will do it. Shalom

seyi360:
Who is this?

You better learn.

Galatians 1:12-16
New International Version
12 I did not receive it from any man,(A) nor was I taught it; rather, I received it by revelation(B) from Jesus Christ.(C)

13 For you have heard of my previous way of life in Judaism,(D) how intensely I persecuted the church of God(E) and tried to destroy it.(F) 14 I was advancing in Judaism beyond many of my own age among my people and was extremely zealous(G) for the traditions of my fathers.(H) 15 But when God, who set me apart from my mother’s womb(I) and called me(J) by his grace, was pleased 16 to reveal his Son in me so that I might preach him among the Gentiles,(K) my immediate response was not to consult any human being.(L)

SavageMaster:
Well...if the end point is to show their listeners that God can transform anybody, no matter how bad the person may have been, and bring them to repentance, then no problem. However, not all details need to be explicitly stated.

If, however, the preacher just wants to prove he's been a bad boy too, then it's not good; it adds no spiritual value to the listeners

It adds ofcourse. They most times tell the deep side of it, so the rotten ones who have given up on life and concluded they can never live a good life can change. If someone who has done something worse than me can live a better life. Then it should be easy for me to stop my bad behaviour

Dangrace01:
What I know is whenever pastors preach about past life what comes to my mind is so you have finished enjoying your life and have memorable experience and you don't want me to do my own and have my experience then repent.

Allow me to enjoy myself have experience then I can now repent.

You would agree with me that in that same church there are people that have already enjoyed and are tired of such life. They just need someone with a story they can relate to and ut can certainly push them to change

seyi360:
2 Corinthians 7:2
[2]Receive us; we have wronged no man, we have corrupted no man, we have defrauded no man.

Rather than dwelling on his notorious past as a persecutor of Christians to impress ,the great Apostle Paul talked more about his regenerated new self and focused on the things before him.

In fact, in the scripture above, he denied his wayward past.

You big be olodo. Coconut head. U read thebible upside down. You just cut one verse without following the story. Paul was dwelling on the present, of course why lock him up when he has done nothing. This is a direct opposite of what the topic is, In Galatians 1 vs 13 - 14 Paul talks about his past. Even in organisations as a leader when you want to motivate unserious workers, you coulf site urself as an example and explain your past.You could tell them there is nothing profitable in what they are presently doing and if they want to be successful in their position there is neex for change. It is done everywhere not only in churches and it is done to motivate people.Even in your family, it will get to a point you would tell you children of your past and how what they are doing doesnt pay them

seyi360:
There should be a limit to what a preacher says about his past life especially while preaching.
When a preacher says
"back in the days, I slept around with my mother's mates"
"I used to be a serial fornicator and rapist"
"I was a murderer and a burglar " etc

Really? And you're proud of such acts? I think that clearly is the height of ecclesiastical insensitivity.

Such unguarded statements has the tendency of poking unhealed wounds in the hearts of some of your listeners , opening you up to temptations and easily making you a victim of extended hatred.

You're called to be a healer, not a killer.

It depends on how u see it. There are several people who are into such habits and cant seem to stop it. It is more like an encouragement to them that no matter how bad your situation is, you can still change and you can live a better and valuable life