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Empiree:
You are the one so desperation to convince reading audience. You can see every verse of Quran i replied you with refuted your posts. The least could say is you got those things from "islamic sources". Again, they are not revelations nor sayings of the prophet(SAW). They are 2nd, 3rd, 4th parties etc. Quran verse i posted keep trashing you out.

You said "Allah couldn't protect his "prophet" from dying a painful as a result of eating poison." but you forgot this verse of Quran which says

O Messenger (Muhammad SAW)! Proclaim (the Message) which has been sent down to you from your Lord. And if you do not, then you have not conveyed His Message. Allah will protect you from mankind. Verily, Allah guides not the people who disbelieve.

You see how easily the ayah refuted you again?. Now, let's assume the poison incident was true. From the narration it says that prophet Muhammad(SAW) ate the poison 4 yrs before his death. He continued to deliver his risalat and faced with many encounters and battles from his enemies physically. All the while the poison didnt work?. He died 4 yrs later. What does this tell you?. It is not the poison but his appointed time on earth was completed and accomplished. He passed away exactly when Allah wanted. But your Jesus was God according to you if you are christian at all, was nailed on the cross by his own creations while he cried out hopelessly for help bcus his other God turned his back on him. Fantastic


As for goat eating Quranic verse, this kind of things are just mockery by crazy folks like you. This is easily refuted. Paper didnt exist at the time. So how could a goat ate paper that didnt exist?. Aisha didnt keep a goat. Also, and interestingly, there are at least 3 to 4 different versions of this funny tale. Two of them did not even say anything about goat eating copy of Quran. Here is what a guy said






Finally see this beautiful verse of Quran 6:116


And if you obey most of those upon the earth, they will mislead you from the way of Allah. They follow not except assumption, and they are not but falsifying.


You Are Refuted Again

The desperation is real! allah couldn't protect his "prophet" from dying a painful as a result of eating poison. Allah also couldn't protect his book from a goat, and yet I'm supposed to trust him?


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Empiree:
You have a problem. Let me help you out. YOu see how we found out distortion of Bible and we bring forward another bible to counter another Imbible?. So you simply need to bring a Quran that is contrary to the one we have. I am quoting Quran but you're quoting fatawa. Like seriously?.

If anything is missing in the Quran, only Allah and His prophet muhammad had the right to tell us not anyone else. So you simply need reference from muhammad(saw) directly to prove your point. He is the one that received Revelation or Ibn this or that. Interestingly in John 8:18 Jesus said [b]I am the one who bears witness about myself, and the Father who sent me bears witness ab[/b]out me.”

which means only prophet muhammad can confirm or testify all the nonsense you have been posting but he didnt say anything about missing verses or chapters. Imagine 100 years from now unknown people tell nasty stories about you and lazy youth like you believe it?

But which koran are you referring to? Is it Ibn Masud or Ubbay Ibn Kaa'ab's Quranic manuscript? Is it Uthman? Is it Hafs or Warsh? What about the missing chapters in the koran? Where do I find them?

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Empiree:
Shaking my head. Quran is speaking but you are quoting words of humans. Bury your head in shame, buddy. What you quoted are not even words of the prophet(SAW). Quran is the ONLY Supreme Authority. Neither Ibn Mas'ud not Ubay Ibn Ka'b were the prophets Quran was sent to. You have your motives so what you're doing is not really new. This is what Quran said to refute this nonsense you quoted.


But those who believe (in the Oneness of Allah - Islamic Monotheism) and do deeds of righteousness, We shall admit them to the Gardens under which rivers flow (i.e. in Paradise) to dwell therein forever. Allah's Promise is the Truth, and whose words can be truer than those of Allah?(Of course, none). Q4:122


What you failed to understand is, these Sahaba's names attributed to questionable ahadith(speeches) like these are handiwork of enemies of islam like Jews and Pagans They pretended to be muslims and they were very learned. They would write anything to discredit islam, Quran and prophet muhammad(saw) but they failed 1400yrs ago and they still failed today. You are one of their failed subjects. They ascribed names of famous sahaba to these statements in order for muslims to believe them. But they forget we are learned too.


Nonsense.

Quran is the only criterion to discern truth from falsehood. Quran by definition means CRITERION. A whole chapter it titled Surah Furqan(25). In sura 8:29 says "O ye who believe! if ye fear Allah, He will grant you a criterion (to judge between right and wrong), remove from you (all) evil (that may afflict) you, and forgive you: for Allah is the Lord of grace unbounded."

Keep your head buried in the sand if you want The truth is already well known to the world


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Empiree:
"Thus We have sent to you (O Muhammad) a revelation (Qur’an) of Our command. You did not know what the book is or what the faith is! But We have made it (this Qur’an) a light, We guide by it whoever We will of Our servants. Surely, you (O Muhammad) are indeed guiding mankind to the Right Way," Quran 42:52

See how Quran beautifully refutes your nonsense all the time.

Please stop trying to ignorant. There was no such thing as a book called the koran during Muhammad's lifetime.


The Quran was collected under the auspices of committee of four senior ranking Companions headed by Zayd ibn Thabit. This compilation was kept by the Caliph Abu Bakr, after his death by his successor, Caliph Umar, who on his deathbed gave them to Hafsa bint Umar, his daughter and one of Muhammad's widows.

Unfortunately as Umar discovered, some of the verses were missing.

Empiree:
Quran revealed to Umar(r), abi?. See how this Quran verse refuted nonesense you posted

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Are you a heretic? Do you realize you would get into trouble and endanger your life if you repeat this nonsense to a devout muslim. In any case your koran is an incomplete and unreliable book.

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Empiree:
smh.... Is that your perception, that I am "frustrated"?.

Did prophet Muhammad and his Sabaha write hadith?. Put on your thinking cap.

I feel your frustration But maybe you should direct your anger at Mo and his Sahabas! Everything I know about Sahih Hadiths I learned from them

Empiree:
you wanna abuse religious figure or you wanna learn?. What do you know about sahih hadith?. Zero but copypaste

I've been posting Sahih Hadiths from MuhaMAD and his Sahabas. If those people don't know anything about Islam, then Islam has no meaning.

Empiree:
it is called Aslaf or salaf which means predecessors. Salafis are people who try to emulate Aslaf. So far you are just acting like a jackass and cherry picking theories that suit you. Quran is the only Ultimate undiluted truth. Anything else is subject to distortion. So far you didn't quote Quran.

So what's your point. Everything you have been posting are men's words and hearsays most of which are not in harmony with Qur'an.

The Salafis are the owners of Islam. They are the first 3 generations of muslims and that includes your"prophet" and his Sahabas

By the way, how can I find the whale on which Allah placed the earth? Is it on Google earth?


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Empiree:
We talking about Islam and Quran but you talking about salafi, Are you well at all?.

He's only trying to emulate his namesake. The original Sex Award Winner (SAW).

Judging islam by the teachings of salafis is not hearsay



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Empiree:
Qur'an 20:2

We have not sent down the Quran unto you (O Muhammad SAW) to cause you distress,


Pick one. Divine Book i:e or hearsay you put up?

Really?


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Guestlander:
One of the reasons why black Americans can't understand why some Africans would applaud Trump for giving recognition to racists like Rush Limbaugh.

That's funny. I just downloaded "Above The Rim" in 1080p.

Mryacks:
Above the Rim
The godfather
No Retreat No Surrender
Blood Sport
Cyborg

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Empiree:
Salaam alaikum

The point is that Gabriel was as ignorant as the man he was instructing


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Empiree:
what's your point?

It's funny how "Gabriel" is held in such high esteem even though the revelations he brought were evidently remote from the truth.


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Empiree:
And your point exactly is...........?



Say: Whoever is an enemy to Gabriel-for he brings down the (revelation) to thy heart by God's will, a confirmation of what went before, and guidance and glad tidings for those who believe,- Al-Baqarah 2:97

No, my friend, you're the one who should have paid more attention in class. And no matter how hard you try to deflect this, the question still stands: why is it that sensory experience which Allah's prophet associated with some of his revelations, reminded him of an instrument he claimed to be satanic?

If I was a prophet and I said tobacco was satanic, then later on I said that when I receive some of my revelations, I perceive a strong smell like tobacco, shouldn't that arouse suspicion in an intelligent human being with a functional brain?

Empiree:
Do you understand english or you just wanna poke fun?. His inspiration hadith say "revelation like sound of bell" it doesn't say physical bell. You may wanna return to high school to learn linguistic analysis.

That's why I admire honey Badgers


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So there's nothing at all suspicious about the fact that "prophet's" "divine" revelations reminded him of an instrument he associated with the devil? Could it be that this is what led to the Satanic verses, where the illiterate "prophet" was very easily deceived by Shaitan? It's all very suspicious...

Empiree:
You guys are still at this old nonsense?. Your method of sneaking through hadith to undermine his(muhammad) prophethood had long expired and over, buddy.

Help yourslf and read btw the lines
https://www.quora.com/If-Muhammad-said-a-bell-is-an-instrument-of-Satan-why-did-he-say-he-receives-revelations-like-the-ringing-of-the-bell

*GSM contributions and achievements within 9 months in office as a Governor of Oyo State.*

If you're them that still believe *Governor Engr. Seyi Abiodun Makinde* has not done anything since 29 May 2019 till 29 February 2020 you're not in Oyo State.

*#EDUCATION -* Completed & Ongoing Project.

1. N60 Million #BURSARY paid to the Oyo State indigenous at the Nigeria Law School.

2. 10% #SCHOOL FEES REDUCTION at Emmanuel Alayande College of Education Oyo, to level up the school fees with other institution in Oyo State.

3. 10% #SCHOOL FEES REDUCTION at Oyo State College of Agriculture and Technology, Igboora, to level up the school fees with other institution in Oyo State.

4. N300 Million for the Polytechnic of Ibadan to secure #ACCREDITATION & #CAPITAL PROJECTS.

5. N500 Million #SUBVENTION to LAUTECH & the inauguration of negotiation committee on the ownership.

6. CANCELLATION of N3,000 School Levies and internal exam fees in Oyo State.

7. N526 Million #GRANTS to 2,500 Primary & 640 Secondary Schools in Oyo State as running costs.

8. FREE textbooks & Exercise books to Students.

9. #FREE COMPENDIUM to SS3 Students in Oyo State.

10.WAEC & JAMB EXTRAMURAL Classes for SS3 Students in Oyo State.

11. Ongoing #RENOVATION of Schools and #PROCUREMENT of furniture.

12. #DONATION of N8 Million by Oyo Ile investors Forum towards JAMB UTME Extramural classes.

13. #DONATION of the school hall, computers, classrooms, facilities by the Alumni and Old Students Association.

14. Reduction of OUT OF SCHOOL CHILDREN due to the free education policy of Governor Seyi Makinde.

#AGRICULTURE* - Completed & Ongoing Projects.

1. N7.6billion approved towards *ERUWA* & *AKUFO* Farm settlements.

2. (10,000) TOMATO SACHETS SEEDS distributed to farmers.

3. PEST CONTROL equipment acquired.

#SECURITY*/ *HEALTH*/ *FIRE* SERVICES - Completed & Ongoing.

1. (100) SECURITY PATROL VEHICLES donated to the Police.

2. N178.7 million for the procurement of DIGITAL COMMUNICATION equipment for security agencies.

3. Oyo State launched the State's SECURITY CODE 615 toll-free.

4. Purchase of RADIOGRAPHY & LABORATORY equipment, including the RENOVATION of operating theatre at Adeoyo State Hospital.

5. Acquisition of FIRE ENGINE for Oyo State Fire Services.

#EMPLOYMENT* - Completed & Ongoing

Over 11,000 permanent jobs created within 9 months of the administration of His Excellency, Governor Seyi Makinde (TESCOM, HEALTH & ENVIRONMENT), and there are also seasonal jobs created as a result of the ongoing road constructions, school projects etc.

#INFRASTRUCTURE* - Completed & Ongoing Projects.

1. N9 billion approved by the Oyo State government towards the construction of MONIYA - ISEYIN ROAD.

2. Operation LIGHT UP IBADAN (Oyo State).

3. Repairs of all the INNER CITY ROAD by OYSROMA.

#DIGITAL RADIO STATION*
- Completed & Ongoing Projects.

1. Governor Seyi Makinde COMMISSIONED new digital radio (Ile-Akede).

2. N300 million included in 2020 budget for the TELEVISION NETWORK in Oke Ogun.

#WORKERS & PENSIONERS WELFARE*

1. N280 million as payment of GRATUITY to 100 retired civil servants in Oyo State.

2. N1.1 billion as payment of GRATUITY to 700 retired primary teachers and local government.

3. 10% personnel cost down due to the WORKERS VERIFICATION conducted under this administration.

4. Up to date workers SALARY.

5. N30,000 MINIMUM WAGE approved.

6. (13 MONTH) SALARY paid in December 2019.

This New dawn--- God sent "Ise ya"

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We should all cultivate the habit of reading between the lines

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AntiChristian, Empiree and IamStrange are you listening?

Trying to invite intelligence.

chatinent:
What's your point? Trying to invite religious prejudice?

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Someone buy that man a car

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Sex Time Table? Rough Play? S & M?

Madam, your husband is a full fledged member of the Fifty Shades of Grey Club!

The reason you had such a lackluster intimacy level before your marriage and during it's early stages is because he knew that if he tried it too early in the relationship, you would leave him.

You're going to have to figure it out for yourself whether you want to raise a child under such conditions. The ball is 100% in your court.

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But what about 55 year old Agbaya illiterate "prophet" who sexualized a 6 year old girl?

But Obinim is on his own! He is not claiming to be carrying out the instructions of Christ

Meanwhile we all know who came up with the Idea of quaffing camel pee

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AntiChristian:
https://www.independent.ng/coronavirus-bishop-sells-anointing-oil-to-members-for-n13000/

Go and drink olive oil for corona virus!

I no say you no even get the 13K to buy it. Bishop Daniel Obinim is waiting for you!

So just like that, allah allowed an ordinary Corona Virus to drive his slaves out of his favourite mosque?
Why not just drink camel urine and defy the Coronavirus?


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AntiChristian:
Worshiping Allah is compulsory and of cos they will have their rewards!

1. Worship at times of hardship and tribulation has a special flavour and a special reward.
It was narrated from Ma’qil ibn Yasar that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said: “Worshipping at times of tribulation and confusion is like migrating to join me.” Narrated by Muslim, 2948.

2. Disasters and calamities are a test of the believer’s patience. Allah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“Or think you that you will enter Paradise without such (trials) as came to those who passed away before you? They were afflicted with severe poverty and ailments and were so shaken that even the Messenger and those who believed along with him said, ‘When (will come) the Help of Allah?’ Yes! Certainly, the Help of Allah is near!”
[al-Baqarah 2:214]

3. Calamities are a means of expiation of sin and raising one's status. The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said: “There is nothing that befalls a believer, not even a thorn that pricks him, but Allah will record one good deed for him and will remove one bad deed from him.”
Narrated by Muslim.

It was narrated that Abu Hurayrah (may Allah be pleased with him) said: The Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said: “Trials will continue to befall the believing man and woman, with regard to themselves, their children and their wealth, until they meet Allah with no sin on them.” Narrated by al-Tirmidhi, 2399; classed as saheeh (authentic) by al-Albani in al-Silsilah al-Saheehah, 2280.

And it was narrated that Jabir (may Allah be pleased with him) said: The Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said: “On the Day of Resurrection, when people who had suffered affliction are given their reward, those who were healthy will wish their skins had been cut to pieces with scissors when they were in the world.” Narrated by al-Tirmidhi, 2402. See al-Silsilah al-Saheehah, no. 2206.

And there are many more reasons....