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debosky:
Waiting for Wenger's press conference today - to see who and who is fit and available for Sunderland.

today is not friday you ennyluver!

debosky:
I was reading the RCCG open heavens devotional a few weeks ago (21/09/2011) and came across this excerpt in a devotional on the Mercy of God:


Another very interesting truth about God's mercy is that everything He does is a reflection of His mercy, especially towards those who have a personal relationship with Him (Psalm 25:10). Every decision God takes concerning you is out of mercy. If you accept this truth, then you will know that it is impossible for God to think evil concerning you. If He is leading you to marry the fellow you do not love, it is because He will supply the love at the time it is needed. [/b]You can be sure that, that divine decision is in your interest and will work in your favour.

http://www.openheavens.kingdom28.org/

Quite interesting I thought - [b]does God actually lead people to marry those they don't love? Is love only needed at certain times? Is this really a biblical comment?

Your thoughts would be appreciated.

yes!
it's very possible. you can be led to marry to marry someone you don't love(at first) but then love will come later!
every human being is capable of loving anyone no matter how disgusting he/she might look at first. with patience, lots of talking time, etc - debosky can fall in love with lepacious bose!

[quote author=Mr_TA link=topic=716327.msg9325441#msg9325441 date=1318442929]Scouse fools should concentrate on getting back into europa league first before talking about more TV money.[/quote]don't mind the tools - they know they might never get to play in elite europe again with citeh stepping up their game and now they want the tv money to be negotiated by each club individually.

In 2006/07, Liverpool earned €9.5m (£6.4m) more from the Champions League than Barca. By 2010/11, the positions were radically reversed with Barcelona earning €44.9m (£39m) more from their winning CL campaign than Liverpool did from the Europa league. This season, Liverpool will earn precisely zero from Europe.

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Man Utd & Chelsea Refuse To Back Liverpool Breakaway Plan

Manchester United and Chelsea are among several clubs who have moved to distance themselves from a proposal by Ian Ayre, Liverpool's managing director to break from the Premier League's model of collecting television rights revenue.

It is understood that Manchester United, who claim to have 333 million fans globally and have targeted overseas sponsorship revenue as a route to increase income, will oppose any moves to challenge the status quo under which the Premier League sells television rights overseas on behalf of all 20 elite clubs.

A spokesman for Chelsea said: "We are supportive of the Premier League on this and want to continue with the way they sell [TV rights] collectively."

United insiders pointed out that their chief executive, David Gill, had repeatedly underlined the support of the club's owners, the Glazer family, for the collective model. Appearing before a parliamentary inquiry earlier this year, Gill said: "The collective selling of the television rights has clearly been a success and it has made things more competitive."

It is understood that Arsenal, Manchester City and Tottenham Hotspur will continue to back the existing arrangement that last season paid each club £17.9m, while the Wigan Athletic chairman, Dave Whelan, reacted with outrage.

Whelan told goal.com: "I have just read his [Ayre's] comments and I find them diabolical – I just can't believe what he has been saying. They are thinking: 'How can we get more money?' You won't get more money by killing the heart and soul of the Premier League and killing the heart and soul of football in England. We invented the game and we have still got the finest league in the whole world and some of the finest supporters in the whole world and they want to rip the whole thing up."

Peter Coates, the Stoke City chairman, was similarly hostile: "I think what we've got is a pretty good system that works well and is probably a model for European countries to follow. I don't think what Spain has done has done anything for Spanish football. As I understand it, their own clubs and supporters and everyone connected with the game in Spain is pretty depressed with what has happened there.

"Furthermore, both those clubs [Barcelona and Real Madrid] have got huge debts and that's with all the money they get. I think things are structured very well here and to change that would be very much a step in the wrong direction. I think we've got it about right and I'm disappointed that Liverpool think differently. But hopefully the majority of clubs will recognise we've got a system that works well."

The public stance of other big clubs will come as a disappointment to Liverpool, who were understood to believe that others would support them. Ayre said clubs in other countries, notably Real Madrid and Barcelona in Spain, have a growing financial advantage over English clubs because they secure TV deals individually.

Without the support of those who stand to benefit most the idea would be dead in the water, because none of the league's smaller clubs would vote for something that would hugely disadvantage them.

Overseas revenues could outstrip the domestic deal, currently worth £2.1bn over three years, for the first time when the Premier League launches its tender process next year.

Liverpool would need to persuade 13 of their fellow Premier League clubs of the merit of the plan in order to force through the change since any significant modification to the Premier League rulebook requires a two-thirds majority.

Ayre became the first representative of a leading Premier League club since Peter Kenyon at Manchester United in 2003 to challenge the collective sale of overseas TV Manchester United and Chelsea are among several clubs who have moved to distance themselves from a proposal by Ian Ayre, Liverpool's managing director to break from the Premier League's model of collecting television rights revenue.

this liverpool club is so shyte!
they want to break out of the collective deal thinking they have arrived!

debosky:
But not as intense as your liposuction treatments. . . .alas you still remain a phat phool.

liposuction is not as painful as the kinda surgery you had!
from debosky to deborah!

chamotex:
@ Coogar

Do you have a United Ticket Membership for this season?

i don't. . . . . .
united's refusal to sign wesley sneijder was a huge factor - i got text alerts after text alerts reminding me to pay up but i declined.
i was gutted with the sneijder drama. i went on hunger strike(for hours), pain was intense - more intense than debosky's s[i]e[/i]x-change surgery!

Long One:
@ coogar
Even the ones making 1 trillion naira per day in nigeria wants to get out of the country!
This was the problem I had with your post; I didn’t say anything else about your figures. Next time read properly before you start arguing.

even the ones making 1 trillion naira per day in nigeria want out is a very valid statement.
travelling out of nigeria is majorly seen as the next big step. it's a blessing on it's own regardless of what happens when the traveller gets abroad.
people give testimonies in churches and mosques for visitor's visa - fact! it's one thing to have stacks of money, it's another thing to want exposure and the pleasure of travelling abroad.

Now, what I have been trying to tell you is in pidgin so you’ll understand is:
‘for the ones wey dey earn 1 trillion per year (few who profit from it-your 1 trillion) no be all wan come jand or yankee because of dere connection to the politicians and na dem dey chop all d juicy contracts, so why them go wan waka?’

faux pas!
it's a cycle. mostly 4 years and if they are so lucky(8 years maximum)
the people ruling in the last administration are being hounded now and taken to court. where's james ibori today? he made 1 trillion per hour but when the game was up, he ghosted out of the country!

dayokanu:
Can you give the source of your stats cos it already looks rigged and faulty

Does Klose have 8 goals or 9?

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/stats/scorers/_/league/uefa.euroq/uefa-european-championship-qualifying%22?cc=5901

you are so much fun to watch when you are pinned in a corner
so my stats are incorrect because espn said so? in a short-while, you would tell the whole world you are a super acolyte of european football and yet you dunno the number of goals to klose's name.

anyways, check uefa.com website and tell me what you see.
i am sure you would come back and say espn is a more credible information site than uefa.com that holds the competition in question.
unrepentant nazi!

toba:
coogar. DK is a very very biased and a subjective individual that doesn't speak the truth.

i don't always agree with you but you have murdered dayokanu today.
a rare and an epic victory.

Its pathetic for u wanting to defend what cannot be defended. How can u compare Gomez with klose in the jersey of the Mannschaft? on all grounds Klose dusts Mario Gomez. Add all the minutes they've played thus far in the qualifiers and see who stands out in terms of work rate and Goal scoring

and you are very correct with your observation.
statistically, klose did better than mario gomez in the qualifiers.

klose scored more goals per minute and he was more clinical than mario gomez - a point you made earlier.

of the 12 attempted shots on target, klose found the back of the net 9 times(75% conversion rate)
of the 14 attempted shots on target by mario gomez, only 6 of those were netted(43% conversion rate)

dayokanu:
Spahic made a dumb move and made contact but that was outside the box clearly. The ref was just a few meters away

it wasn't clearly outside the box! stop exaggerating!
i saw the match on espn - my first reaction was penalty!  it was too close to the penalty box and nasri fell into the box.

the foul itself was not debatable. the player turned his back on nasri and stuck out a leg to impede him.
what is questionable is where the foul took place - and it was touch-n-go! i have seen them given several times.

rafael vs bellamy, mascherano vs valencia(on top of my head).

This together with the Henry handball incident points to it that Platini is doing a PDP to qualify France.
Anyways they would have their as5 handed to them like in 2008 and 2010

all that one na tory

Long One:
So, because the British High Commission is full, it means everyone wants to live in the west? That is the basis of your argument; see how flawed your thinking is.

i will keep correcting you till you get the picture.
90% is not everyone - 100% is.

The few people who are well placed do not even think about that for your information, rather it’s the downtrodden poor to middle class. The main problem with Nigeria is the uneven distribution of wealth, and the few who profit from it see no reason to move abroad.

the few who are well placed are less than 5%
if nigeria is 160 million population, what is the 5% of that? i am sure that 5% is more than the population of libya.

Why do our politicians always want to come back to power? Why don’t they move abroad and retire with their loot if the West is every Nigerian’s heaven from the Nigerian gospel according to coogar?

politicians are less than 1% unless you are trying to convince anyone there are 1.6 million politicians in nigeria.
let's even ignore their kids who study abroad or live abroad permanently.

They buy properties abroad for breaks, but they are based in Nigeria, why? Are they an exception to your rule? Or do you just like arguing for arguing sake?

when you are able to deal with figures, you would understand the premise of my argument!
for now, you are just pissing in the wind. 90% of the population of nigeria are middle-class and lower class.
the average nigerian survives on £1 per day! the top 5% are extremely rich and they are part of the exception - the other 5% are the other parts of the exception!

dayokanu:
Did you see that the ref was less than 5meters away from the incident?

didn't you see nasri's knee and hand were inside the box already!
it is where the player falls that matters these days especially when that player is playing at home. . . . .

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dayokanu:
Can we have the games started by both?

the number of minutes spent on the pitch is a truer statistics!

i can start a game and get subbed in the 4 mins(injury)
number of starts will not paint a true picture like the number of minutes spent on the pitch.

in the euro 2012 qualifiers, miroslav klose has done better than mario gomez!
q.e.d!

dayokanu:
It was outside the box

how could the referee have seen that seeing that it was borderline and nasri fell in the penalty box!

dayokanu:
I think Platini is being more influential on French qualification. That was the penalty that qualified France

it was a penalty!
the bosnian guy stretched a leg out to stop nasri - a dumb move!

dayokanu:
SYDH At a striker who got a goal and an assist in a game

euro 2012 stats

gomez--6 goals in 406 mins
klose----9 goals in 505 mins

Long One:
That’s not true. I have friends making mad money in Nigeria, who I have tried to convince to study abroad or at least, come for a visit, but they all refused. Moreover, they are happy sponsoring their girlfriends abroad for holiday. I also know one that studied here who said he’ll never come back again, as he hates all the rules – he even refused to come for his own graduation.

studying abroad is different from marrying a nigerian with a british passport!
the guy that studied there and vouched never to come back is correct - without a sponsor dropping the fees/upkeep/pocket money and rent is a bit tough.
students are now only allowed to work 10 hrs per week. it's a different proposition when you marry!

I agree the jobless youths won’t hesitate, as they feel life is greener on this side, but sincerely speaking, not everyone wants to live in the west.

i take it you have never been to the british high commission in lagos or abuja!
sheer ignorance!

ojdollars:
@coogar ,  From the way you talk, you sounded always like a kid. You talk as if you are not a Nigerian or something. Don't come here to a Forum like this, full of intellectual Nigerians to start writing trash.

you are a lobotomized ape!
so you count yourself as an intellectual nigerian with the crap you spewed above? in my estimation, you are not wiser than a billy-goat!
you alcohol-sodden sack of shyte!

You have insulted Nigerians in general, especially the youth more than once in your post on this thread. You talk like you have a surname where you live, who knows you? How much do you have? What kind of life are you living wherever you are? Everyone have access to the internet, so I am not surprised at you. silly thing

how ironic?
you have spoken like a complete simpleton. how have i insulted nigerian youths? are you lunkheads so thick to handle the truth?
you want me to call a spade a hoe and hide your atrocities in that country when it comes to getting out of nigeria?
you are a disgrace to the nigerian flag, you autistic child!

harakiri:
Reluctant to "lower their standards"? How typical. This is a confirmation of the "social ladder climbing syndrome" i mentioned in my earlier post. Women are the ones who will say "love conquers all" but at the same time, there are "standards". Why won't love be "hard" for them to find.

that's the way women are - better deal with it!
no woman truly wants to date/marry a man below her standard. it's only when the options are limited that they look lower!

90% of Nigerian men are "looking" for means out of Nigeria? Where do you get your statistics from?

go to the foreign embassies in nigeria and see for yourself.
were you blind when a certain fred(fake canadian embassy agent) defrauded your countrymen to the tune of 350 million naira?

What kind of men were you dating in Nigeria? Do you think it's every guy here that's desperate to live in oyibo land?

i am not a woman
90% is not every guy unless you have lost your ability to count!

My dear, a lot of us have great lives going for us and the only thing that would make us leave Nigeria is if the country breaks up with ethnic/tribal/religious/political warfare.

so i have heard. a lot of youse live great lives and still fall victims to these rogue agents screwing you up!

A lot of us only travel for vacation/holidays/visitation for the sake of it and nothing more. Get your mind right abeg! Not every guy is eager to abandon their businesses/properties/assets/investments to come and live with you in that rented shack in whatever country you found yourself.
Nonsense!

like i have said, 90% is not every guy and the sheer majority of nigerians would leave their businesses/properties/assets/investments/families to go abroad where the security of lives and properties are better. furthermore, the nigerians living abroad also have businesses/properties/assets/investments and families in nigeria so your point is senseless, watery and spineless.

i will also add if your extended families stay in shacks abroad, good luck to them.
not everyone you have a rare opportunity to chat with is poverty-stricken like yours.
if you cannot handle the truth, why not get a strong rope, a beam to tie it to and go n meet your creator, it's that easy!

dayokanu:
Seems the Belgian side wont qualify for the Euros they were tamed by the young Germans

They should try next time

no one gave them any chance in 2011. . . . .it's 2014 world cup that most pundits are looking at for them.
besides, they missed vermaelen tonight. his partnership with kompany would have offered more resistance to the germans!

debosky:
So Per is supposed to destroy rules of football like offside in order to prove he is astute?

No point going any further.

nope, per is supposed to have stayed with yakubu and intercept the ball or push up in sync with the other defenders.
per pushed up but a donkey was left behind, the officials thought the donkey kept yakubu onside - thus the goal was given
if the donkey had pushed up with per, yakubu's offside position would have been more obvious for the referee to see.

in other words, per's lack of communication and his lack of defensive organization ruined arsenal!

debosky:
Two of those four were own goals, one was offside - is Per also supposed to bring good officiating and stop idiocy as well?

if per is astute, how did his defence find themselves conceding 2 own goals or leaving yakubu in a position to score offside or onside?

The vote of confidence isn't on Per per se - a good individual matters little with the calamitous individual mistakes made by members of the Arsenal defence.

if you replace per with john terry in that defence, blackburn wouldn't have won by 4-3.
d'accord?

debosky:
That's hardly proof of anything - his absence is due to Arsenal's poor defensive form predating Per's arrival. In two of his 4 league games he's kept clean sheets.

and he has also conceded 4 goals against blackburn.
it's all about the public confidence - no one trusts per to keep a clean sheet!

debosky:
@ Ibime
Besides, if y'all were as prescient as you claim, you should be cleaning out ladbrokes, bet365 and the likes every weekend with your excellent predictions.

who says we don't?
do you know any fantasy football player with metresacker in his defence?

Ibime:
Gaynners like Adeballz would be well advised not to entrench their positions on the Mertesacker issue.

One remembers previous debates about Djorou, Chamhakh and Squillaci where Gayyners came out to defend trash just because their ability was called into question.

Once the object of Gayyners arguments becomes to defy naysayers rather than perform an unbiased appraisal of their players, they dig a hole for themselves from which they find it hard to extricate themselves.

This is not a do or die affair. Mertesacker has always been a liability. Right now he is trending toward it. In the fullness of time, he will converge at the point where we all nod head like Agama lizard to undoubtably agree that Per Mertesacker is a liability.

i don't think any gaynner can defend mertesacker. debosky is just hiding behind a finger.
he knows mertesacker is not better than elokobi!

lovejo:
During Abacha regime dollar is not sold  at 22 naira all most claimed here, it is 80 naira at black market where the citizen can buy it. Only CBN sold it @ 22 naira and average citizen don't have the chance, don't judge it with 22 naira. Even now the ratE CBN sold dollar to bank and bureau de change is not the cheaper than the rate we can trade dollar in black market.

it was sold at 22 naira at all bureau de changes in nigeria - you can only get them in the black market at 80 naira!
an average citizen could go to bureau de change in nigeria then and change naira to dollars!

tom28:
Cougar yes many youths back home in nigeria are without jobs but you shouldnt be quick to judge that such youths are useless and lazy.I know a friend of mine who was without job after he graduated from the unversity about four yrs ago until one of these new generation banks offered him an employment.Now would u say during his time of being unemployed he was useless and lazy?.And on the issue about some of us nigerians going back home to nigeria to get married lets be clear about this issue.Most nigerian men who go back home to marry dont do it with a clean mind.Many of them want a woman who is naive and who they can ride on at will .There was a story of this 58 yr old yoruba man who is a cab driver and already divorced twice from two black american women and he went back to nigeria and hooked up with a 22 yr old univ graduate.He convinced this lady to dump her boyfriend of many yrs and took her back to the states and got married to her and started using her like a slave.This lady left him for a younger man she met while in nursing school and the marriage crashed.Wether male or female this sort of arranged sort of marriage never works and its only ppl with an ancient outlook to life that indulge in arranged marriage.Its better to get married to someone that u know than a total stranger your parents might bring from u frm the village.

you are making your own argument!

you are mixing up success with exposure. even the ones making 1 trillion naira per day in nigeria wants to get out of the country!
who wants to stay in a country where the security of lives and properties are not guaranteed!
if a slave ship berths in apapa tonight, nearly all the nigerian youths would jump on it to america or europe!

tom28:
Not everybody in europe is successful and i am yet to see an ex ashi in europe getting married to a nigerian graduate.the worse the graduate would do is eat her money and run away.I think what is left is for ppl to get married to who they see and who they are used to and not faceless strangers that their relatives arrange for them.

this kind of argument is laughable.
so every woman in europe is ashi or what is exactly your point?
everyone is not successful in europe but they are better off in europe than in nigeria. if they are not better off, they won't stay in europe feeding on scraps!

tom28:
So in otherwords what u are trying to imply is that nigerian men back home in nigeria are lazy and worthless?

not all of them but majority are. there are 40 million youths in that country without jobs.

.My guy lets be honest with ourselves in here.Its not every nigerian living in the west that is succesful.

so why are the embassies of britain and the united states in nigeria the busiest.
the ukba said they receive 10,000 applications every week in their lagos office alone - what's the cause of this?

What can u say about those nigerian women who engage in prostituition in europe or what can u say about those nigerian men who are only into doing menial jobs.Can u refer to such ppl as succesful?

success is subjective! what makes mr a successful is not even a starting point for mr b.
these women would rather prostitute in europe than do it in nigeria, don't you think. pr[i]o[/i]stitution in europe can still take care of their needs and their family conveniently with a retainer unlike pr[i]o[/i]stituting in nigeria.

.And by the way i know many nigerian girls who were LovePeddlers in italy but went back to nigeria and married bus conductors as their husbands.There are nigerians even doing much better in nigeria than some of us nigerians living in the west so enough with this hypocrisy.

they simply went back to their old boyfriends - there's no news there!
but if you think a girl with solid educational pedigree here would come down to nigeria and marry a bus conductor then you are high on speed!

paraphase:
in US is N400
in UK is N500

but the minimum wage per hour in the uk is 1,500 per hour, approximately the same thing in the usa.
it means in one hour, the lowest paid worker in the uk/usa can buy 3 litres of fuel.

can the lowest paid worker in nigeria buy 3 litres of fuel in one day? never mind one hour.
there you go. . . . .

chines4:
Abacha of all people, @Poster how are you? _{Must be a kid during Abacha Era, if not he will know that we were living in bondage them}

so you are not living in bondage now?
petrol is about to be sold at 100 naira per litre! $1 = 200 naira.
if that is not bondage, i dunno what else to call it.

[quote author=Orton1_0 link=topic=779477.msg9317453#msg9317453 date=1318349655]Mr man where are your statistics from? People just spit thrash on here like they're talking to kids, next time, maybe turning over your keyboard will do.[/quote]you must be a miserable sod!
next time, attack the issue not the personality - this is the same village nigerian mentality most of you apes called men in nigeria exhibit.
bloody asswipe!

millco88:
You always hear of Nigerian men in the daispora going back to Nigeria to marry, but not the women. Why?

the women are often reluctant to lower their standards and go back home to marry.
the mentality of most nigerian men is a big factor too. many nigerian males at home still see women as slaves to be bullied or to be manipulated!
on top of that, it's difficult to find love. 90% of those naija men are looking for means to get out of nigeria. once they get their visas, they are off!

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