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[quote author=tpia@ link=topic=710353.msg8703473#msg8703473 date=1310491291]and who on this thread said that?

the bone of contention here is do ALL men cheat like you people are trying to prove.[/quote]yes, they all do.
the ones who haven't don't have the opportunity/resources to do it but they wish they had. . . . .in a chaotic city like lagos, it's not humanly possible for a successful man not to cheat there. even when the men don't want it, women make it happen.

dayokanu:
So said the wives of Bill Clinton, Tiger Woods, Anthony Weiner, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Hulk hogan, John Edwards etc

Ronke, Why not test your husband and see if he would cheat cos he seems to be of a superior moral fiber. Give me your husbands phone number i wan introduce him to some kwarrect babes. I don sample these girls and I can vouch that your husband would be swayed, If he passes then we know NOT all men would cheat

i am someone's husband and i have never cheated. kindly direct these babes to my abode and test me with them. ronke's husband would definitely cheat - ronke has shown him pepper. try me!

ronkebp:
Coogar, be rest assured that if you married a girl like me and you cheat on me, you are packing your load and leaving the house, , definitely, and if you are soo stubborn, i will carry the house and leave with it.

you never jam. . . . . . .if i cheat on you and i see you wanna bring trouble, i will bring the new chic home just like the men in the old testament did. it's a take it or leave it issue. if you don't like it, best leave - if you do, get into the kitchen and prepare us a sumptuous meal. and don't you dare handle rat poison while the meal is being prepared. you are eating from the food first before everyone else.

lepasharon:
yeah men mostly cheat but we gotta be optimistic ,we can' just be cynical but I believe married men have lusted after another woman at some point

of course. . . . .married men are more irresponsible than single men in naija. . . . .all those so called aristos are people's dads and husbands. then i heard a joke about the prayer points of a typical nigerian woman in church.

ladies, when you pray please use the word man or boy in your prayers not husband. praying to get a husband(somebody else's spouse) is a wrong prayer so when people's husbands run after you in droves, remember you were the one that asked your creator to give you one.

Muza:
Jonathan proposes 7-year single term

, for President, governors • National Assembly’ll get bill soon

Worried by the rising cases of violence and tension across the country during elections, the Presidency has concluded plans to send a bill to the National Assembly for a single term of seven years for governors and Presidents. It reasoned that political violence was always caused by the resolve of incumbent governors and president to run for a second tenure of office.

National Mirror gathered that the Presidency would soon send the bill to the National Assembly after the Senate might have concluded the screening and confirmation of ministerial and ambassadorial nominees. It was also learnt that the Presidency was presently putting together another set of nominees for screening and confirmation for appointment as ambassadors and representatives of of Nigeria in foreign countries.

Reliable sources close to the Presidency told National Mirror that the decision on the proposal to reduce the tenure of the governors and President to a single term of seven years was reached between President Goodluck Jonathan and the leadership of the sixth National Assembly with an agreement that it should be one of the first major bills to be sent to the lawmakers after the screening exercise.

It was also gathered that the bill would be part of the input of the Presidency in the next amendment to the constitution, the process of which would begin shortly after the screening. According to the source, “There is a bill from the Presidency which seeks to alter the subsisting provision of the constitution which provides for a second term tenure and replace it with a single term of seven years.

“The President wanted to present the Bill to the former National Assembly but was advised against it because there was no much time left to the end of that Assembly. “The bill is still a proposal, but why we suggested seven years is because the number of years will certainly be reduced to either six or thereabouts. We know that it would generate a lot of controversies and there would be all manners of suggestions to reduce the number of years. “Why I said so is because those drafting the bill did not state clearly whether the single term will begin with the incumbent President.

It may also interest you to know that because of the tension that always greet the re-elections of incumbent governors and president, it was agreed that beyond reducing the tenure to a single term, there should be a provision whereby the rotation of the presidency amongst the six geo-political zones would become a constitutional issue. “But the problem and criticism that we expect now are that if you include rotational presidency in the constitution, people would now question the moral justification because the President himself is not a product of zoning.

“Maybe that aspect would be removed before the bill gets to the National Assembly, but I can confirm to you that there is a bill on single term to be forwarded to the National Assembly soon,” the source said. The 1999 constitution provides for a second term of office for governors and the president. A former principal officer of the last Senate told our correspondent: “I was personally briefed with the thinking that some of us would return to the Senate and possibly retain our positions in the leadership and we were to support it when it comes, but truly I bought into the idea as a person but felt seven years was too much. “Again, when the law takes effect is also a problem to me because the bill is silent on that very important aspect and that is the much I can tell you,” the ex-lawmakers said.


http://nationalmirroronline.net/news/16094.html

no problem with the proposal as long as it does not start from him. . . . . let it start with the next president.

[quote author=tpia@ link=topic=710353.msg8702770#msg8702770 date=1310485541]overseas, whoever acquired the house is immaterial.[/quote]why do you think smart nigerian men go to nigeria to get hitched up? the laws in nigeria and where the marriage certificare was issue hold that marriage not where the couple are residing. so if you think a man who married in nigeria will leave the house for his spouse after divorce then you are joking.

in nigeria, some women can bounce you off these days if you want to prove stubborn.

i want to marry such women. the men bouncers bounce me out of my house? dem nor born her papa well.

all that mumu behaviour where the man cheats his pants off while the woman waits at home enduring and crying, no longer holds water.

as per name- no biggie. Probably one of those orisha names like esuloleleyi anyway.

you have a wrong perspective of nigeria. . . .men still rule the roost and as per the name. . . .you can stick to what you used to be. . . .all the sangotope or yemojatosin that you bear.

[quote author=tpia@ link=topic=710353.msg8702628#msg8702628 date=1310484595]^^if you cheat then[b] you [/b] can leave-why should it be the wife.

no be you dey follow vaggina everywhere?

keep following nah.[/quote]leave the house i acquired by myself? where does that happen? if i cheat, the wife leaves. . . .if she cheats, she leaves. . . . .and she must drop my last name as well.

VolvoS60:
@ Coogar,
I notice the gradual introduction of disclaimers and qualifiers in your arguement about why Mrs. A and her spouse do not share the same last name.   Well, I won't say much more on this - in good time the reason for the difference in names will be made clear. It may indeed BE as you have argued - she has her maiden name on her passport and this is why she and spouse do not share the last name.

since that possibility is legit, is it worth pursuing? don't you think ukba will be more happy to bring out incriminating acts against this woman and they would have conducted every check possible to convict this woman? give them some credits. . . .

And then again, it may NOT BE as you have argued. As JJM has so eloquently and persuasively pointed out, more sinister reasons CAN AND DO exist for a couple not sharing the same last name, particularly in the context of this matter we are discussing, spanning 14 odd pages  . But I will give Mrs. A the benefit of the doubt until new information is made available. I saw the difference in the names and it struck me as odd. Indeed there may be nothing to it . . .

i have ma reasons for saying there may be nothing to it and that is because the ukba is now much more involved. you guys keep assuming bimbo delivered those babies sometime last week. she's had them 2 months ago - if there's anything fraudulent, it would have been fished out by now. i am sure her documents she filed in from lagos would have been screened properly even before the story hit the media. how long does it really take ukba to fish out a criminal in these days of modern technology?

One thing which stands out in this case is that we (or at least I) don't have full information except for what is in the public domain. If you are in the same position as I am, you would do well to refrain from sweeping assertions which you cannot prove beyond all reasonable doubt.

which is where common sense(a virtue that is not common) prevails.

And one more thing . . . tone down the insults. You do your arguement no justice by liberally lacing your points with one invective after the other. I enjoy frank exchanges as much as the next person,   but there is a thin line between healthy, robust debate/argument and plain verbal abuse. Don't cross that line. I say this because your 'opponents'   on this thread have been quite civil (compared to some of the stuff on other threads).

well, maybe you should pay attention to the missives directed at me as well. to the other divide, i am the reason nigeria is backwards, i placed ibb, obasanjo, abacha and yaradua in the presidency. i was the major cause of the lagos flood amongst other evil vices. am i supposed to smile at that or tell these folks where to stick it?

seyibrown:
Link to the bolded, please! I am sure that just like the Russian woman's (whose medical costs were PAID for by fellow Russians)case you wrongly brought up, we will find that if the above exists, it is directed at LEGAL RESIDENTS, and NOT VISITING SCROUNGERS!

lord of mercy. . . . .the russian case i wrongly brought up? the same case you did not believe and you were asking me to provide? the similarity between bimbo's case and the russian parents is the fact that only the doctors can give the go ahead when the kids can fly and that was why i brought it to light. i know comprehension skills can be ambiguous to a herb like you but if you tape it shut, i wouldn't have known you are a simpleton. . . .better if i assume you are one than make it so obvious by writing bollocks on a public forum.

so even if you’re NOT living in the UK legally, your details should not be passed on.

and yet seyi brown thinks this was directed at legal residents. comprehension skills - zero.
how some of you graduated from a tertiary institution must be the 8th wonder of the world.

Never encountered anyone so full of shitE on NL!    

never met anyone with an intelligence quotient so low it makes a slug look like john newton!

proudly9ja:
Unless something happens to Gibbs in Asia (God forbid!), he will be our first choice LB come start of the season. AW has already said Gibbs is now in a situation where he needs to start games.

If noone leaves and we get a first choice CB, I believe we will be well prepared to start the season on a high.

Im a bit worried about AW's statement about Jenkinson being Sagna's replacement. Does that mean Eboue is leaving or that he doesn't consider Eboue as RB?

eboue has made it clear to wenger he doesn't want the rb position ever again. . . . .he wants to be more involved in the midfield where his british accent will be put more in practise.

jay bee:
Yes we actually do
And it's very easy to find 'em NHS abusers.
I know this cos I have access to this data  

you have access to this date because you are in a position to have access to it. . . . .if you shop this information irresponsibly, you will go to jail! it's called "abusing a position of trust". you can read that up also as well.

ronkebp:
Bytflmind and Ikooko, i gat you guys, but leave story, i never believe that a woman should cheat on her husband, i would never support anything bad, that is why i did not support the men cheating also. If the woman is not justified to cheat then the man is also not justified to cheat, period. Marraige should be 'till death do us part' right? it is also the same Bible that say, 'if your right hand would cause you to sin, cut it off', therefore, marraige shouldn't be 'at all cost', especially when it is at the other persons' expense.

so you are suggesting a man should cut of his willy because it often leads him to sin? since that same scripture was written, has there been anyone who voluntarily chopped off a part of his body because that part of the body makes him sin? i need links, ronkebp!

debosky:
This is due to a fundamental difference in the way we are designed - men can Be Intimate at the drop of a dime while most women need a relationship of some sort before sex.

and you will be pleasantly surprised this trend is changing now. more women(married/single) are now getting quickies/one-night stands than in the last 10 years. the issue is simple. . . .if i marry and my wife cheats(that's the end of it). if i cheat then she must leave if she has to. . . .

JJM:
Trust me, forget data protection, govt agencies SHARE information. take it from someone who knows this first hand.

of course they do but mostly in severe cases when life & death is involved.

Stop ranting Coogar, your arguments hold no credibility whatsoever.

and yours do? it's been more than 2 months since bimbo delivered her rugrats and she's yet to be nicked for any fraudulent activity or malpractises. you must know more than ukba then sitting behind your dusty dell desktop passing misguided judgement on an innocent mother of five. shame on u!

[quote author=tpia@ link=topic=710353.msg8702426#msg8702426 date=1310483375]you must still be in the stone age.

a woman finds it difficult to look out?

99% of your post is blah blah blah.[/quote]do you look out?

debosky:
I know from Wenger's comments. He regards our LBs as Gibbs, Traore and Vermaelen in that order, the same way he considers Song a CB after the regular CBs.

His replacement is undoubtedly Gibbs and Traore.

interesting choices for nani/valencia to eat up there.

Unless Everton are desperate to sell him it won't happen with stingy Arsene at the helm.

3 words. . . .'6 + 5'

more english players will fill up the starting xi of the top four clubs. . . .

debosky:
Sagna is a RB, Vermaelen is our first choice CB and Koscielny is his back up. Throwing any of those into the LB position will be suicidal.

how do you know they are not even better at lb than the preferred cb? these are footballers and wenger must have his reasons for selling clichy. it's either there's a replacement in the pipeline or someone somewhere is ready to fill that role within the squad.

I believe it's going to be Gibbs as the first choice, my hope is that when (not if) he gets injured, Traore has absorbed some defensive nous from his time at Juventus to step in and make the role his own.

we shall see. . . . .i think leighton baines might be on his way to arsenal.

debosky:
Maybe the goals didn't suffer too much, but that meant we remained stagnant and didn't get the incremental improvement in Ade we would have gotten.

ade was a destructive force in that team. if he had stayed, arsenal might have easily missed staying in the top four. wenger sold him at a profit and increased the wages of his wards. . . . .that to me is squad improvement - whether the players now performed to the required expectation with the wage increment is a different matter entirely.

Secondly, Wenger's reputation is not very good buying replacements. One could argue there are no replacements for Clichy in the squad, but that doesn't stop AW saying Gibbs can step up.

i am sure wenger expects one of his big defenders koscielny, vermaelen or sagna to play on that left side. there's no way wenger would believe gibbs would nick a permanent shirt in that position.

ronkebp:
Infact i prefer it that way, it keeps everybody on their toes.

Na you sabi, think what ever you want to, i just gave you a small picture, ' in as much as you men do not want to think that your wife might cheat on you, it is better you do, it is not only the men that cheat, some women do too, especially those that are pretty and sexy, some men outside would want to have a taste, as you bleep other peoples wives, so your wives would be bleeped, with all leisure and sweat.!!!!!

then let the fuc[i]k[/i]ing begins. . . .

VolvoS60:
@ Coogar,

Sir, are you absolutely sure of what you have written up there? Are you sure sir? Are you really, really sure?

that's the logical explanation in most cases unless you are bimbo's husband in nigeria and you know more than we do.

justwise:
Don't waste your time trying to explain things to coogar he wouldn't get it. I'm not supporting what Bimbo did, i'm only happy that the kids are well and health. Pple like coogar  is everything that is wrong with Nigeria.

ohhh, tape it shut you scallywag. and you are what is right with nigeria? you are a disgrace to the green passport!

JJM:
Your selective analysis beggars belief. The question of why she is not using the same name as her husband is very much relevant to the issue of whether her story as a whole lacks credibility.
Not relevant, not applicable is a tad different to "no brainer"(obvious, glaring)  my dear!

it's not relevant to the issue because husband and wife had history before they got married. it's like asking why your gcse certificate does not have your husband's name on it? i mean, who would dare ask such a question!!! blimey, give ukba some credits. . . .  if you think they have not done the proper checks to convict this woman, then you must be smoking woolies.

JJM:
Horseshit! the govt agencies share information, how else does UKBA find out that a visitor has an outstanding NHS bill?don't be fooled by that please.

ukba will find out a visitor with an outstanding bill if/when the nhs decide to shop that visitor. not the other way round. this is why it's called data protection. the ukba cannot force it out from nhs unless the issue of life/death or bomb terror is involved. grab a book and read up the act.

JJM:
Abi o. Coogar is just fighting a lost cause. I agree with you Justwise and I am happy she and her children are doing well but how Bimbo went about it is wrong and may have made things worse for future applicants. Anything that is worth doing is worth doing well.

never ever fought a lost case. . . .what i have seen here is enough barks to bring barbarians to shame without biting. . . . .i have not seen any credible fact that suggests bimbo deliberately tried to play the system. granted, there's a loophole in the system and i know people will always try to take advantage of it. . . . .on the other hand, i also believe innocent people do find themselves in such cases and the previous history of people who have tried to play the system should not be used to pass judgement. each case should be treated individually - that is what justice is all about.

JJM:
If Bimbo had the baby prematurely at 32 weeks in June, she must have known she was pregnant when she applied for the visitor's visa. Why did she not apply for Private medical treatment visa? I tell you why, she would have had to register with a private healthcare provider in the UK to get the necessary letters to satisfy the ECO, this means having to shell out more money. Pure and simple, she knew what she was doing and planned to get free medical treatment on the NHS.

bimbo must have been getting pre-natal treatments somewhere. . . .was she paying to get those? was she asked to pay? were the proper checks done then for her to pay or not?

debosky:
The crux is that Wenger is unlikely to buy a player of equal value or quality.

Henry was sold for £16.5m, rising to £21m with appearances and all. Did Wenger ever spend £21m on a striker to replace Henry? No.

Ade went for £25m; Wenger never bought a £25m player to replace him. I could go on and on. . . .

Ultimately if Wenger is not going to spend the money, I'd rather have Nasri for another season instead of vainly expecting Wenger to replace a player when we all know he won't.

Liverpool sold Torres and bought Suarez and Carroll. If I had confidence in Wenger making such replacements then I'd say sell both Nasri and Fabregas right now and let's get on with the show.

Utd sold Ronaldo for £80m, but two years down the line they've spent £50m in one window and may not be done yet. Arsene has made £35m in a window and has NEVER spent that type of cash in one window to strengthen, so I'm not expecting that to change now.

Unfortunately we all know Wenger will likely not do that, instead he'd either buy obscure players or promote from within.

nasri is too big a player not to be replaced. henry was done n dusted even before his move. how many times did he really feature in his last season at arsenal. adebayor was easily replaceable by team-mates, wenger didn't need to buy like for like. nasri and cesc will leave a big hole in arsenal's midfield area. they are quite young and there are no replacements in the squad yet so wenger must buy to replace them. . . .i agree their replacements might not be equally talented but it will be daft for wenger to sell those players and keep the money for the board to split. that will be equivalent to chaos and errrrrr, anarchy!

[quote author=tpia@ link=topic=710353.msg8701564#msg8701564 date=1310476031]like i said, as long as nobody knows whatever, all is well.

if the basstard child becomes a billionaire tomorrow, its for the common good.[/quote]well, the truth must always prevail. in these days of dna matching and stuffs, enough married women in nigeria have been ditched by their husbands after several years of deception. i know a man who never knew his children were biologically made by another man until recently. he's now old and gray and might not be able to father a child again!

ikooko:
Really i will accept that not all men cheat their wives if 50 men out of 717,268 members on NL who have been married for 50 years can testify that they have never cheated on their wives in their 50 years of marriage. why 50 years? because i belief that for a man to be that old in marriage, he must be at least 75 years old, he must has seen it all and probably sexually irrelevant/inactive  to intimate pleasure than younger men.

and you think nigerians will be truthful enough to admit they have cheated on their spouses on these pages? your lie detector test will go up in smoke if you attempt it. cheating is a norm in nigeria. around the closing time/break time on the island, you can never get a free hotel room. they all get booked. as soon as break is over, the rooms become available again. who are the guests that fill up these rooms? married bankers, insurers, stock brokers, business men/women, etc cheating freely on their spouses without any remorse.

JJM:
Wrong again!, "no brainer " means you don't need to use your brain power to work it out. easy and obvious answer.

Which is clearly not the case here!

if the question is not relevant and doesn't apply to the issue then you don't need to use your brainpower to work it out. . . .this is also a no brainer.

JJM:
see quote direct from UKBA website:

"Do visitors qualify for medical treatment from the National Health Service?
Rights and responsibilities

This page explains whether you are entitled to free medical treatment from the National Health Service (NHS) while you are visiting the United Kingdom.

Visitors are not allowed to enter or stay in the United Kingdom to receive free medical treatment from the NHS. Except for treatment given in a hospital's accident and emergency department, you will be charged for any treatment you receive. You should ensure that you have enough medical insurance to cover your stay.

You can find more information on the Department of Health website."

I also refer you to the link below to improve your knowledge of the subject area.Its called the National health service not the International health service.Contrary to your assertion IT IS NOT FREE TO VISITORS,EVEN IN AN EMERGENCY,YOU WILL BE TREATED BUT HAVE TO PAY UP AFTERWARDS!

http://www.dh.gov.uk/en/Healthcare/Entitlementsandcharges/OverseasVisitors/Browsable/DH_074379

this is the loophole in the system. ukba says the patient should pay but this is what the nhs say. . . .

If you think that you will be charged for medical treatment, but can’t afford to pay, then you should still talk to a hospital administrator as they may be able to help you. The NHS is supposed to treat its patients in confidence, so even if you’re not living in the UK legally, your details should not be passed on.

by the time you combine data protection with the human right act, you will now see why ukba must insist on every visitor coming to the uk should have a verifiable health insurance scheme. the ukba should refer applicants to their own trusted insurance companies in nigeria to avoid any fraudulent or malpractices of forgers.

VolvoS60:
Please explain sir, what you mean by "ïts a no-brainer".

it means the question isn't even relevant in this case.
let's assume you have a passport you travel with as we speak, and your wife has one she has been travelling with before you met. . . . .would the 2 passports share the same name?

[quote author=tpia@ link=topic=710353.msg8701227#msg8701227 date=1310473543]@ topic

anyway, no sweating.

if the man cant stop cheating, then the woman can also do the same.

as long as nobody brings stds home or spills the beans, everybody's happy.[/quote]i disagree. . . .
a woman can raise a bastard child and claim the husband as the father. men don't have this opportunity. . . .so there's a difference between a man cheating and a woman cheating. . . . .if men get pregnant too, it would have been even stevens, but as it is. . . .a cheating woman is more dangerous, disgraceful and grotesque.

debosky:
As for Nasri potentially leaving on a free next season, it's not very important to me. We've sold players without really replacing them, so getting £20m theoretically does Arsenal no good if it's not spent. Recent experience shows that money is often not spent.

is this not financially reckless? nasri is only 24, not the 30+ players you had let walk free in the past. cash £20 million now or let nasri sign a pre-contract agreement with any club as early as january? i will rather have the money so should any manager with braincells. i am afraid, wenger did not answer that part very well.

slimshay:
Errr who said they were. We are just trying to hold on to our more talented players. Or isnt that the accusation everyone levels at Arsenal.

arsenal have had the pair for 3 consecutive seasons, what did you win with them?

JJM:
Just to educate you correctly Coogar, NHS is mainted by the public purse hence accessing it is dipping into public funds, no recourse to public funds means exactly that. Pay your way!

then you need to re-educate yourself. the public funds they are referring to are basically:

income-based jobseeker's allowance;
income support;
child tax credit;
working tax credit;
a social fund payment;
child benefit;
housing benefit;
council tax benefit;
state pension credit;
attendance allowance;
severe disablement allowance;
carer's allowance;
disability living allowance;
an allocation of local authority housing;
local authority homelessness assistance
income-related employment and support allowance.

as you can see, there's nowhere on the list that says if a car runs through an illegal immigrant or a visitor, the nhs should not treat him/her. public health is free in the united kingdom. emergency and complex cases like bimbo's should have been dealt with by letting visitors come in with health insurance schemes. the ukba failed to do that in nigeria so whose fault? an insurance company should be paying that £200k, had the ukba done their homework.

If it wasn't, UKBA will not be asking people to pay up their medical bills before even allowing them back into the country. UKBA do not ask if visitors owe a UK bank or credit card company money do they? cos that is private sector funds and they(the banks etc) will need to ensure that you are good for any loan before granting it to you-They are not even likely to grant a loan to non UK residents!

so who pays for a & e/walk-in centre victims that the nhs treat for free?

duduspace:
Like you revisited it when he didn't leave last season? 

shaking my head. so cesc and nasri will be like new signings now, won't they? you are a big joke.
wenger has won nothing with them. and if his egotistical fight to keep them succeeds, he'll win nothing with them again next season.

JJM:
Association of Fraud supporters hang your heads in shame and Fraudsters go back to the gutter where you belong

siddon there. . . .bimbo is going nowhere. . . .her new apartment is being decorated as we speak and it's being funded by the taxes you pay.

Loveaflame:
[font=Lucida Sans Unicode]REAL MEN DON’T CHEAT UNREALISTIC MEN DO[/font]
I will like to ask you the following questions.
1. Will you be happy if your son takes after you?
2. Will you be happy if your daughter gets married to a spouse like you?
3. Will you be happy if your wife is doing the same thing as you?
4. What kind of family do you want to raise up?
5. When you are old and on your dying bed will you be happy that you have live a good and godly life and ready to meet your CREATOR?

If you sincerely answered these questions, I believe you can summon all the courage you need to break such a negative habit. I believe you love your wife and you truly fear God. With His grace and your own self determination you can overcome it. I am not going to tell you it will all that easy but your determination will go a long way in helping you. GOOD LUCK.

with all due respect, these questions are irrelevant because my children have their lives to sort out. if you spend the whole of your life tutoring your wards not to cheat, lie, etc - it still does not guarantee they wouldn't do it. even after being told everything, the decision still lies with the child. his/her choice will be independent of what he must have heard. this is why some pastors have wayward children in spite of what their parents preach.

duduspace:
And na your useless club nor be the worst agbaya of all? na by force to buy player?
your silly people are even knocking the boy's confidence just because, you are managing coloured toner in your yeye club.
The boy loves Arsenal he is just unfortunate enough to come from Catalunya and that is what your people are preying on, as if its only in Barcelona he can win trophies. 
Did you ever hear that RM valued him at 50m?
Cesc is never gonna dump Arsenal I can assure you, the truth is the only club he is willing to go to is Barcelona and it is quite understandable why he does but he will ensure that Arsenal gets fair value for his move you can count on that, so go and tell that Roseline of a man to pay up or STFU your arm twisting tactics didn't work last season so why do you think they will work this season?

i will revisit this comment when cesc dumps arsenal in few weeks time.

JJM:
second that Claremont.
Coogar has just been giving weak and disgraceful explanations/justifications for Bimbo's fraudulent actions.

weak and disgraceful? what is weak and what is disgraceful? educating you schlepps that nhs is not part of recourse to public funds is weak/disgraceful? you cowards should hang your heads in shame.

[quote author=kunle_j link=topic=710353.msg8700858#msg8700858 date=1310470166]NB: the above reason are part of my book (still writing and not yet compiled and published) tittled "the Cheater and the Cheatee

i no wan talk too much and i hope you are not bored with my epistle?[/quote]you are writing a book on cheating? that's one book i will love to read.