₦airaland Forum

Djicemob:
So basically you are saying Em is better than Rakim Allah? Even Em would laugh at that line.Wetin person no go hear for NL,If marley marl and all them real hiphop pioneers were nairalanders they'd be laughing their azz off by now.

rakim himself implied the white boy is greater than him. i have given you the quotes. if eminem was black, he would be muhammad ali. rakim is black & he's not even 1/10th of muhammad ali....so that's your answer.

even nas is better than rakim....

No doubt Em is good but we are talking of A man that set the precedence for all rappers before and after him, alive or dead. His flow, delivery, subject matter, content, patterns, syllables, metering (poetic skills) and many more attributes are second to none, especially at a time when no one else was doing it. Its easy for rappers after him to claim greatness but they had a blue print to follow.He set a standard for rap that even todays rappers have not yet matched...and that was 1986.Ra is indeed a true rapgod.

rakim was one of the pioneers. he broke barriers. eminem also broke barriers - the first ever to break the race barrier in hip-hop. until eminem, black folks generally ridicule a white rapper trying to rap but when eminem came out, there was nothing to laugh at - he's ridiculously skilful.

he went toe to toe with some of the most respected emcees & he murdered them on their own tracks. MMLP is one of the greatest rap albums ever - you would actually put it next to 2pac's "all eyes on me" or nas' "illmatic" and this is a white boy - it's like asking jay-z to do acid rock & standing toe to toe with aerosmith.


the only black rapper i would put ahead of eminem today was canibus(in his prime) - bis was an animal. if you are a writer & you didn't wish to script lyrics like canibus at a point in your life then you are in a wrong profession. his beef with llcoolj ruined his career - llcoolj used his influence to blackball canibus & this was why he never really blew up.

kr0ne:
I'm suspecting Coogar and Ibime are holding a secret meeting somewhere; otherwise, how can both be missing for 3 days now? And u can't place me above them, Chief Judge or not. I think we need more judges here. You can't just close a thread based on two people's vote. I'll wait till 5 and if both fail to show I'll drop my verd

i'm still alive....
i have done the wrongturn vs khena battle with a lengthy verdict & how i arrived at it. which other battle needs verds?

wrongturn is a problem on this section....

i deliberately read guykhena's verse first - i thought there's no way wrongturn would subdue guykhena's monster verse & brilliant lyricism - how wrong was i?

opener - wrongturn
(the rokiatu reference was epic) guykhena's opener was equally nice but it's been done & oveused. it lacked originality.

rhymes - wrongturn
we don't even need to delve into this. wrongturn packed multis in every fücking sentence he wrote. i wish he could drop the caps though. it's nicer when the reader discovers the skill himself.

similie/metaphors - TIE!!!
this is a tie - it's getting to a stage where every battle on this forum would have a tie in this category. the boys are not smiling at all. the intellectual bar has been raised. every nucca here has sick metaphors.

punchlines - khena
i think guykhena marginally edged this category. loads of hidden gems in his verse and he was consistent throughout. wrongturn did his thing but i felt khena's ish more. the "sonned & murdered" line is very creative. wrongturn's punches didn't sting enough - they were mostly jabs.

personals - khena
i didn't see any personal ish from wrongturn. khena had something to say about wrongturn's work in a choir. both didn't really pay attention to this category but since wrong did nothing, khena edges him with his minute personals.

flow - wrongturn
he was consistent with his line compression than khena. his perfect timing of multis placement is epic. khena was a bit sloppy with his structure - some were good & some were mehhhhhh

wordplay - TIE!!
we have another tie here. both did their thing. i was too lazy to count who had more & even if i had, there is the theory of quantity & quality. now, who decides which is quality or quantity? i think the metaphor/wordplay categories should be removed when 2 top writers are battling - it's guaranteed both would come with ebola wordplays & viral metaphors.

closer - wrongturn
the shikena bit did it for me.....that's a very creative line & how wrongturn worded it casually was epic. khena shoulda won this category cos his set-up was interesting but he lacked the finishing that shoulda made his closer do extensive damage.

overall, this was a very enjoyable battle. both cats were sick with it........however.....

MVGT - wrongturn

elampiro:
* Arsene Wenger spent heavily in some years. Even outspent Man United in 1997 and 1999. SAF was one of the big spenders in the 1990s.

arsenal
1997 - £7.0m spent
1998 - £0.8m
1999 - £13.8m

man utd
1997 - £5.0m
1998 - £6.0m
1999 - £28m

so how was wenger a big spender & how did he outspend united?

But Mourinho's came with big big money. Same with City, and now Gaal.

mourinho, SAF, wenger & gaal are all better managers than moyes - moyes is a failure.

mcfarlin:
Smalling is too unstable I prefer mcnair rafael back is good news!

smalling is very steady - what happened at the etihad was totally out of character. the only weakness smalling has is his use of the ball when in possession. he needs to grow up fast though....paddy & blackett have been miles better than any of our old boys.

smalling needs deliverance....
he panics, he cannot receive a pass & distribute intelligently. however, he's a better defender than jones or even evans. jones just wants to hurt himself and any player near him regardless of who the player is playing for.

mcfarlin:
Mr man rooney can only take a paycut if he moves away from the club and plays somewhere else for less as in sturridges case when he moved to loserpool!
Your earlier assertion that rooney took a paycut to stay was wrong!
Was there any concrete agreement?

rooney didn't take any pay-cut.
he took advantage of the fact that united didn't have a poster player back then to re-engineer an expensive contract. he sucker-punched SAF and SAF waited for his time.

SAF quickly signed van persie & kagawa - rooney was on his way out & he was becoming peripheral at old trafford. he got frustrated, he asked for a transfer verbally but nothing concrete was reached until SAF retired.

had SAF stayed, rooney would have been sold!

mcfarlin:
Time will tell...

I want to see falcao start as our main striker against the w'ankers.

i have missed falcao but he's not the immediate worry now. thankfully, smalling would be available for the gooners. i hope we can have rafael back too. if we can manage to assemble our strongest possible backline then arsenal are very beatable.

you guys are still arguing....

what else is there to argue? the babe committed common assault on 3 counts. verbal abuse, physical abuse on the primary victim & a 2nd physical abuse on the secondary victim.

the man simply stood his ground - he retreated like the law of NY state says on SYG policy but he still got assaulted by the girl. his reaction wasn't planned or premeditated, he only acted out of instinct.

if an officer of the law was on that train. both would have been arrested. the babe would get a felony count while the man can only get a count for misdemeanour. that's pretty much the summary of this case.

you law-girls should go & save thousands of innocent detainees in nigerian prisons instead of boring us with crime & tort stories. better still, go & cook porridge for your respective husbands.

mcfarlin:
Wow...this is dicey I don't know if I should rejoice or be saddened by this latest injury news.

RVP is smart!
he wants to play against arsenal at the emirates. he would be foolish to play for holland & risk hamstring injury.

i am sure he's preserving himself for the battle of the emirates.....

elampiro:
Money money money did these for Mourinho and SAF. The voters knew what they were doing.

money did nothing for SAF, he built his empire himself. there was never a time he was handed a sack of cash to buy players. the plenty of titles brought more fans. large fans attracted sponsors, sponsors paid to have their brands advertised.

mourinho can only beat what is put before him. plenty of managers have spent money with nothing to show for it. before mourinho, chelsea hadn't won a league title in 50 years & you are talking about money. abeg, make i hear word.

who are the voters?
an association where 90% of the voters are british? do you even know all the managers of the professional leagues take part in this voting process. who else would they vote for? pellegrini?

arsene wenger that has chiefly operated on a shoe-strïng budget has only won it twice despite the fact that he's one of the greatest managers in this league & yet a perennial failure like moyes got the nod three times? this LMA award is a joke.

mcfarlin:
Lol..double post!

Bros abeg can you explain why moyes gave rooney a contract that pays higher than what cr7 gets@madrid .

Ronaldo scores more with his left foot than rooney scores with his whole body!

how many goals has rooney scored in a world cup game? my memory tells me he was in 2006, 2010 & 2014 world cup tourneys.

even with his enormous failure - he's still the white pele. they bring up irrelevant stats - the highest goal scorer for club & country.

rooney had his england debut at 17. he's now 29. he's played consecutively for 12 years and he has only 43 international goals to show for it.

elampiro:
* Hahahahahaha. League winners. Big money spenders abi? Big club coaches. Votes are not done that way.

2003....
the manner by which SAF wrestled the title away from SAF was exemplary. at a point in the season, arsenal were 8 or 12 points above united & SAF worked his magic wand. we left arsenal for dead and won the title aplomb. it's the best case of a smash & grab in the history of the premier league.

ruud scored 44 goals that season in all competitions through the grand master plan SAF devised and it was clear arsenal had the better team that year.

* I can't see your foreigners there. I saw SAF, a Scottish twice. I was hoping to see Zola, Martinez, Banitez.
lol

2005 - that was jose's first year in england. he broke the highest points ever notched by a club in a 3-point system in the 20-league band. he copped 95 points, played some of the most swashbuckling attacking moves & had a near impregnable defence.

even SAF respected him & said money isn't everything cos you still have to find the balance to make a team gel. jose was by far the best manager that year - coming to england & claiming the title in england with 95 points. the only game he lost was questionable. how's moyes even considered this year?

2009 - the golden era of SAF. ridiculous number of clean sheets. rio & vidic became legends in europe - went through a 25-match unbeaten run in europe, made the CL final like they did the previous year, completed their third successive league victory with aplomb.

what did moyes achieve this year that can match the above?

Nihilist:
So what stage of the game did you rally at against City and Chelsea.

You had only 2 shots on target in 90 minutes yet my man is claiming 'balanced game'

Only a point gained from a possible 6.

Can't you be objective for once in your life?

how many points did moyes gain in the corresponding fixture last season?

moyes failed to score against chelsea, city, liverpool, everton, newcastle, etc at old trafford last season. he was that useless as a manager.

mcfarlin:
Its very annoying and to make matters worse rio ferdinand talked about players buying newspapers to know what the press thinks of their performances.....

why is it impossible that rooney pays cash into the accounts of journalists to give him high ratings in a game where he's been average.

was rooney better than drogba in 09/10? was bale better than nani in 10/11? was giggs better than ronaldo in 08/09 season? those are some of the examples and more......

And believe me all this high praise from the press might be part of the problem these overhyped players don't perform up to expectations. You can't be told you are the best all the time without it getting into your head!.

that was how someone here was comparing rooney to muller before the last world cup. he defended rooney to the hilt until rooney's failure was magnified in brazil & muller shone like a billion times. they get brainwashed easily by what they read in the papers even when statistics tell it differently.

Coogar, below the Moyes' awards. Which other managers apart from the big four should have won it?

2003, 2005 and 2009 League Managers Association Manager of the Year.

2003 - SAF

2005 - mourinho

2009 - SAF

mcfarlin:
Thank you bro.

If we all agree that the british media over hype anything british then half of our arguments won't be needed..but some peeps take in anything from the british press like its the gospel truth!

Notes won three managers of the season awards ..yet some peeps can't consider that as very debatable

it's their way - this is why they never win any competition for their country. players who aren't better than emenike are being touted as world class in their media.

if rooney & RVP perform equally in a game, the commentator would quickly give the MOTM to rooney without hassles. a foreign player has to play outta his skin to win MOTM awards.

all the time a british player has won PFA player of the year award, there's a better foreign player that was ignored through the media brainwashing.

that's even small.
let's assume there's a difficult away match in europe where 2 foreign players got a brace each and rooney came on in the last 20 mins to score a penalty to make it 5-0, the media would report it as "rooney helps united to secure victory in portugal."

it would be rooney's picture on the front page & rooney's name on the headlines.

elampiro:
You got this part completely wrong. SAF met Guardiola in the summer of 2012.

cathy ferguson's sister wasn't dead when SAF met guardiola. if they had discussed the role at all, it would have been at a later date not in 2013. the death of fergie's sister in law prompted his retirement.

That Mourinho's story you mentioned there ....... that is not the way it happened.
Anyway lets leave the arguments.

are you kidding me?
go back to the old pages when starboard & i discussed the merits or demerits of hiring jose mourinho when SAF announced his retirement.

i followed the situation to nearly every sports article in the world & it was clear that SAF or bobby charlton betrayed mourinho. go on google & read diego torres' article on how jose cried cos he was ignored for the job.

elampiro:
Why are you taking me back. A manager who plays a cup final tried. You need luck to win it. Finals are dicey anad can be swung either way in seconds.

He was voted manager of the season 3 times. That wasn't by British hype....

this is even the more reason it's by british hype. wenger(french) & kineaar(irish) are the only foreign managers to have won that award in the history of the premier league.

even you yourself should be embarrassed by this damning fact when foreign managers have consistently whooped british managers in the premier league.

elampiro:
SAF is a British manager too.

but SAF arrived with his pedigree. he had won plenty of titles in aberdeen before he signed. actually, his feat in the scottish league surpasses whatever any of guardiola or mourinho have achieved.

You have forgotten SAF approached Guardiola and Mourinho b4 Moyes. Moyes was a logical choice at the end because the desirables were not available, and Moyes familiarity with the EPL got him the job- something we were told by the board. No one here mentioned Martinez when SAF resigned.

guardiola already had a contract with bayern by the time it even came out SAF was retiring. jose was waiting for SAF's call & it never came cos the old wily fox preferred a manager thee has an allergy to club success.

jose should have been given the job. he cried when he heard a fool like moyes got the job & jose quickly reconciled with abramovic to get the chelsea job as spain was getting too heated for him.

mourinho wanted the united job more than the chelsea job. all those antics he played when we lost to madrid admitting the better side lost on the night is just what it was - aśslicking to get the united job.

mcfarlin:
Chai!!!

Bros small small we all know moyes is a failure!

He was overhyped by the british press because of his nationalty!

Moyes didn't win anything at everton or did he?

Even michael laudrup is better than moyes

that's the thing about some of these useless british managers. they all have friends in the media to hype their small mentality to the high heavens. moyes got the united job by the virtue of his nationality....

if he was from serbia or holland, he would never have been considered for it. scottish solidarity killed ferguson & ultimately cost united. i like how fergie quickly dissociate himself from moyes.

let the fool carry his own cross himself...

chrisley024:
Errm!... We gave Moyes a season, let's try LvG.

we gave moyes more than a season...
he inherited a squad of league champions, a competent backroom staff with a wealth of quality experience, a seeded status in europe & fit players as at when moyes took over.

within 9 months, gollum destroyed everything SAF built for more than 20 years. we gave LVG 80% of the low confidence players who suffered a torturous season under moyes, half-fit squad, new backroom staff, no place in european football & so on and so forth.

elampiro:
It's a distraction and I see no correlation with the world cup. Small teams put in more effort in these rubber cups.

it's the same & there's no distraction. european teams cherish playing in them cos it's usually played in tropical countries where warm weather is welcome at that time of the year.

How many matches did Rio played in 2012/13 when he was fit? Vidic was not played by SAF because he was just returning from injury.

35 appearances for rio - he won the PFA slot as the best defender that season. he was well rested in the domestic cup competitions & in champions league so he can perform optimally.

* Don't change things too quickly could mean dont buy players too quickly.

fergie specifically told him to keep the backroom staff.

It's all about money and availability. Moyes bought Mata.

mata wasn't what we needed when we bought him. woodward just used the mata deal to please the irate fans. moyes had the whole summer to work out who to bring in & the fool ruined that season - it was until the last day of the transfer he made any move to sign herrera & it was too late by then.

elampiro:
He was one of the best managers in the EPL before we hired him. He had won the manager of the season 3 times. He missed out on Carling cup narrowly after beating Man United in the semi final. He narrowly lost FA Cup final to Chelsea in 2009. He had finished 4th in the league and made Everton a feared team in the EPL.

na yam?
allardyce, redknapp, hodgson, benitez, martinez, pardew, etc have more intelligence in their toe-nails than moyes. moyes is a failure - the worst manager in the history of the EPL.

elampiro:
You have not said the truth here. I did not typed that in the afternoon. And it was not in response to you.

I typed it at 7.14 pm in response to SetrakusRa.

but moyes is a failure, yes or no?

Djicemob:
Am not saying Kdot is the best,i drew my inferences from your analogy.Beside k is just getting started. However,I give Eminem plenty of respect. He is a great emcee.
He's definitely top 5 or he's borderline top 10. But if you're trying to compare him to Rakim...sorry, that's a
lost cause.

eminem is in the top-2 and i would put canibus in that top 2 as well. they were the ones that really changed the face of rap. all those whorë worshipping, jewellery idolising and champagne popping rappers are clueless.

Rakim is, at the absolute worst, top 2 emcee.
There is not one single individual in the history of any of the four elements of hip hop who has been more influential than him.

rakim gets mentioned cos he is one of the pioneers, but his reign ends there. he would be lucky to be in my top-10. biggie & 2pac easily subdued rakim & when biggie was the king of the entire east coast, rakim was flipping bürgers in macdonalds.

elampiro:
European teams won't do well in intercontinental cups just as big teams don't do well when they drop to Europa or are in the Carling cup. DISTRACTION.

distraction or not good enough!
look at the hypocrite that was arguing against european teams just before the world cup now changing his mouth.

distraction my foot - as if the south american clubs don't get distracted too. fergie's treble winning squad shunned the FA cup to go play in that competition in 1999 & got their arsës handed to them.

elampiro:
* Moyes wanted to access the team but he didnt know the players were so aged. Ferdinand legs were more tired than Distin who is older.

because moyes was a morön!
fergie had a special schedule for rio & vidic. he never played them consecutively in games. the backroom staff that shoulda guided moyes with the fitness regime & gym work has been sacked by the fool.....so whose fault was it?

fergie warned him - don't change things too quickly. his first objective was to steady the ship. retain all backroom personnel & let them perform their magic. this season, he can then start to replace them one by one.

* Moyes wanted to move Man United in the same direction as Real Madrid. He didnt want to start signing average players. Otherwise he would have spent 200 million in panic.

direction of real madrid?
which top class player would sign for moyes? you think it's all about money? players have managers they fully respect.

van gaal is a world class manager. in 95, he won a whole champions league with a bunch of teenagers. he did wonders at barcelona & even bayern.

that's who you want to compare to foolish moyes? is moyes better than fanny amun? a manager that doesn't play to win games? a manager that said he would have taken a draw against hull fc before a game?

50calibre:
Typical black chic, aggressive, loud, ratchet & hood as fuc*k!!

Kudos to that guy for slapping the shi*t out of that bitc*h, he gave the most potent cure for ratchetness.

Whoever assaults a person first, should be ready for its consequences, I'm all for gender equality

never knew ratchetness had a cure....
i thought it's an inborn trait

Djicemob:
Kendrick took notes when Em was kickin it.He(kendrick) is acclaimed as one of the best in present time.With your illustration,can we say that Kdot is better than Em?

kendrick? na yam?
what's kendrick's pedigree? the west side just wanted a face since they have had no ace since 2pac died and they started bigging up kendrick.

kendrick can't even best the slaughterhouse nuccas, let alone eminem. he's nice but abeg, his lyrics don't move me. the best he's done is his BET cypher. at his age, eminem was breaking barriers of race, culture & writing skills.

RuuDie:
Ah, bless you for reminding me... the very same coogar here blamed it on Moyes' GUERILLA-like training methods... LVG must be running an ISIS-like training ground then!

Absolutely amazing!

it's the after-effect of the moyes military camp training. van gaal met the squad half-crocked. many of the players didn't even travel for preseason. many came back home to fix their injuries.

moyes ruined united - sacked all the backroom staff that had worked with united players with their wealth of experience. why has rio & co scolded moyes method even if we assume i am just being a hater?

why are everton players praising martinez & his methods? whether at old trafford or goodison, moyes was not generally liked by his players. they all know he is a failure.

Rakim on Eminem:

”Eminem is nasty man, I don’t care what color he is. I don’t care about none of that nahmean? Real artists respect real artist’s man. Especially like a conscious artist that sits down and writes and hears another artist that sits down and does his writing…and he know…a brother nasty.

Regardless, you can’t take nothing away from his thoughts and his pen, nahmean? Em is nasty man, I tell people to this day… if Em was black…he’d be the next Muhammad Ali man.”

this is the biggest respect a nigga can give a white boy.

elampiro:
I can't remember posting this in the afternoon when Coogar and I had a bout.

how can you remember when your fingers type faster than you process information.

Now you agreed SAF team needed an overhaul.

SAF team only needed 2 good midfielders last season. scholes re-retired & giggs was ageing badly. all moyes had to do was go to bilbao & sign herrera & m'vila. yet, he còcked it up.

the fool ran after players who cannot be arsëd with moyes. thiago, fabregas, etc were all flirted with & they turned moyes down cos they don't even believe in moyes' philosophy.

bang....van gaal showed up and quality players came from nowhere. let's not forget united had lost their european place at this time but every player still wanted to play for LVG.

moyes as a manager of a seeded team in europe couldn't sign any top class player. his last option was to go sign fellaini. he spent £28m on a £20m midfielder. i don't even know how anyone can rate moyes.

elampiro:
We start counting from Europe. Else we could count Amodu, some coaches in Japan and South America, Egypt.

He won nothing in Europe for about 9 years.

why should we start counting from europe? argentine league is not better than most european leagues? in the days of intercontinental cup, south american clubs won it more. they always räpe their european counterparts.

moyes has never left europe to manage & yet his win ratio is 44% - moyes is a disgrace to all scottish managers that have existed. he's a failure, born to fail, living to fail & he would die failing. 18 months contract for a manager you deemed good? 18 months? 1.5 years managerial contract?

RuuDie:
This is like throwing water into a basket and expecting it to stay. Guy, you get brain pass like dis na!

what's this supposed to mean?
are you hungry or does your brain lack the required amount of oxygen? stick to the points & quit the psycho-babbling.

Djicemob:
Eminem took notes when Rakim was kickin it.

messi took notes when batistuta was kicking it. ronaldo took notes when figo kicked it. who is deemed greater today in those analogies.

rakim himself said eminem would have been the greatest if he was black. that's enough compliment for a white boy. see beyond the skin colour & recognise the skills.

elampiro:
Manuel Pellegrini

Who was this man before he won the EPL for Man City?

Is Moyes the only coach who had not won trophies upon trophies before getting a big job?

see him shooting his own foot!
pellegrini won plenty of titles in south america before his sojourn in europe. moyes hasn't won anything in his life.

there's a big difference!

kandiikane:
lool ask mondisweets.

ask mondi?
a long jail term is guaranteed then. mondi would argue assault in court for a blatant murder case.

Darkrebel:
Bloody liar.. please bring proof...which link did lagunna give me? Abeg lagunna did you givee any link....Stupidd homohabilis ....you are still a biter ...

see this fool!
comprehension is even beyond him. ksslib wanted to see top-tier battles. laguna & coogar supplied youtube links for him to see & you got the dizaster line from one of the battles supplied by us.

you have been exposed!

Abram Lincoln/brains/ cinema seat
Insomnia/ resisted arrest
Brokeassbitch- against Kim
Piss*tool/
Trip a broad/
Here/ heir
And many others you bit when you were still using that Sauron Moniker

how does this disprove the fact that your arsë got impaled by a babe? after making mouth of how you pen good bars, you got rapëd??

..look at the list of your stolen bars..can you see your life is useless?
Brainless zygote ... keep Insulting your family thinking you are insulting me.........I will just keep reminding you of the bars you stole.....

all hail King Sauron-- King of Cavities ...

hahahaha
this lad is struggling to cope with the verbal assault flying towards him. bloody faggöt - let's talk about the nakëd pictures you posted on NL.

were you trying to fück kim when you did that? gists through the grapevine said you were pursued from facebook forum cos you wrote a romantic letter to a man like you. it got me thinking that is why you hate eminem. he always attacks "gay looking boys".

aromo the homöerötic peasant - teddy fücked you so badly that your arsê now leaks sëmen. if you fart in a test tube, the spërm bank would still make a use of the gas coming out of your arsë as they are semēn concentrated!

Darkrebel:
useless son of a night soil man.....King Sauron...- with legendary dentition that sinks into any material ....
your a disgrace to your wretched parents and hip hop. I have told you bastard.....
just buy 50 naira Rope and end your useless life....

darkrebel?
oloshious fellow.....who should buy a rope? in my hood, if you get eaten by a femcee, you get a beatdown. you are lucky this ish is online. we would have force-feed you menstrual blood for disrespecting manhood.