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Iamaromolaeran: so when I say his mom "hawks bread"........she's not a "bird with the loaf"/

Shirley07:
Nope. I was talking of Welbeck's poor decision making and how his link-up play is nothing but meaningless short passes.

moca:
Abeg,where d link for that virgin man?
I'm interested

Shirley07:
It's not SAF fault that Rooney is an unreliable inconsistent shïthead.
Play him as a striker, he roams around, won't keep his position and grumbles. Play him as a second striker, he disrupt the play and complains.
Rooney is just a jack of all trade, master of none.

Coming to England and Manchester United's number 10, Wayne Rooney has a long history of not tracking the opposition's deep playmaker. From Sergio Busquets in the 2011 Champions League final to Pirlo in the Euro 2012, Sir Alex finally realised this fact and dropped him for the second leg against Real Madrid in Champions League quarter finals 2013. With Xabi Alonso controlling the tempo for Real, it was vital that United had someone to disrupt him and Danny Welbeck did this job perfectly until he was shifted out wide after Nani was sent off. For all his qualities, Rooney lacks the discipline to play the role to perfection.

He often gets impatient without the ball and starts dropping deeper and deeper. This might seem like "He is helping his team out" or "He is a team player" but adhering to tactical instructions is key and Rooney doesn't have the required discipline to do that. His close control and his first touch aren't good enough and the inherent ability to drop between lines which is a must for any Number 10 doesn't come natural for Rooney as he always looks to move towards the ball rather than wait for it.

He doesn't have the nimble feet nor the ability to turn in tight places, he can still bulldoze through defences and of course has a very good finish in him. Wayne Rooney had his best season during 2009-10 when he playing as a lone striker up front, he scored a career best 34 goals that season. His vision and his long diagonal balls are still exceptional and maybe a couple of years down the line with more experience he can prolong his career by playing deeper.

The main problem for Rooney is that he is the jack of all trades rather than the master of one, he can pass, he can shoot, he can tackle, he can run and has boundless energy. Which means he can put a decent shift wherever he plays on the park. This coupled with his energy and his selflessness on the pitch means he is rarely present in the area from where he can inflict the most damage.

Louis van Gaal has to find a solution for this problem as Manchester United have two very good number 10s in Kagawa and Mata and a lethal striker in Robin Van Persie. Whether Rooney is ok with reverting back to playing on the left which he did during the days of Ronaldo and Tevez is doubtful. And for Roy Hodgson, the question is whether he will opt to play both Sturridge and Rooney or only Rooney upfront.

Shirley07:
I aint talking of his passing but his vision. He even showcased it in the last 2 games.

Shirley07:
There's nothing incisive about Welbeck's short passes thou. Infact, his short passes are so predictable.
Let me also tell that Rooney's vision isn't soley based on his long ball, there are times he pulled off some fantastic throughball which Welbeck can only dream of.
Moreover, you really need to pull out your hatred when it comes to Rooney and this is coming from one of his hater.

PietroRico:
rooney has Footwork na
Have u not seen him labour to do stepovers that would make my 100+ year old grandpa ashamed?

Wayne Rooney is a man who I have spoken about a lot in recent weeks. He is a man who has been in the headlines a lot also. Rooney was named captain of both Manchester United and England this season and as such his performances are under increasing scrutiny. Rooney’s position, tactically, is also in question. Where does he perform best? For Manchester United the signing of Falcao has raised this question. For England the form and fluidity of Daniel Sturridge and Danny Welbeck also raise this question.

One solution that is often bandied about without much basis is the idea that Rooney should drop deep and become a top class centre-midfielder. Easier said than done. The idea has been supported by the notion that Rooney is a good technical player who can make things happen and score goals from deep. This is because as a second striker he often drops into the midfield and crowds it, looking to ping diagonal balls and get involved in the all round play.

But, such analysis is simplistic. Rooney isn’t a disciplined player. This is why Sir Alex Ferguson left him out of United’s side versus Real Madrid, preferring Danny Welbeck. He showed this when he failed to track back for England versus Italy at the World Cup. He also demonstrated this in 2012 as he could not keep close enough to Andrea Pirlo. He runs back but when he does this it is as a headless chicken, not as a tactically astute performer. This is why it’s better when he’s up front and can do less damage defensively.

An article in the Guardian recently raised a further issue. Rooney’s short passing game. His pass accuracy for the three games so far is 78.7%. Last season it was 80%. This isn’t bad but it’s not good enough for a great centre-midfield player. Rooney, like Steven Gerrard, is often guilty of playing overly complicated hollywood passes, rather than looking for the simple ball. He averaged five long balls per game last year for example, which is a lot for a forward. As stated he often drops deep and pings it.

Tactically speaking for England if he converted to a central midfielder in the current diamond, he’d be playing behind Raheem Sterling and alongside Jordan Henderson. Can he really run the left hand channel, get up and down the pitch and cover space effectively in this specialized role? I doubt it. For Manchester United this would be as a two man pair in a 3-4-1-2 formation. It’s difficult to see him creating a formidable partnership with Daley Blind. Blind would likely be left with a lot of defensive work to do and become over-run. Top class teams with good attacking midfielders would surely relish this prospect. Rooney as a midfielder simply doesn’t make sense. It is a further way that people are trying to accommodate a star who looks completely lost in modern football from a tactical sense.

PietroRico:
elamps surely doesn't understand how much potential rooney wasted for stuupid reasons.

If he did, he would not carry out wankfests to whatever rooney offers now that looks like the world to him.

PietroRico:
how will they save our season and win us the league.
Showing those old clips is only emphasising the point being made here.

he has regressed

Shirley07:
Majority of Welbeck's passes are toothless safe passes.
In short, what's working for the likes of Sturidge, Welbo, Sterling is their pace and techniques which Rooney can't compete with. However, Rooney has the best vision among them.

Austindumas1:
what?

silentdon:
I don't, would've pmed you but you're in far away Benin Lol..

Shirley07:
Huh? Rooney has a better vision than Welbeck, it's just that he has a rabid touch.
People talk about Welbeck link-up play but he doesn't pull up trees with that one touch short passing of his. Even Chicharito has more creativity in his arsenal than Welbeck.
And if you admit he has an average balance, then this arguement on Welbeck's fantastic ball control should be put to bed.

silentdon:
Lol. Thanks. You really think I should go on?

silentdon:
Your view/experience on the issue might be the one to spur me or restrain me bro.

r231:
Message from Chaircover to Coogar

Chillisauce:
very correct,
that was how one of my village money miss road alaba man dey find wife, waka reach my village compound, then was asking his folks if i cook onugbu soup. This one dey wan give a, city wife. When he finally met me, him say, infact he doesnt mind eating mr biggs everyday

no be only onugbu soup.

my mum laugh die.
I don suffer, when i even see am, with his big belly like say na sh1t full am.

moca:
Buky Buky, u lv this topic gangan
My first heated debate with u was on this
When i used to debate small.
These days na trolling thing

Let me tag them for u.
TV01, coogar, tonychristopher,ileobatojo is already seated(contribute o),bellong,
Nashville,pikabeau1,carefreewannabe,
Sophyrock,bananabender,crackhaus,
Shymexx, oops, i don try.

With these people and those i forgot to mention, buky u will have a full house!

Shirley07:
Bambi on ice, you mean?
I agree that he's hardworking but disgree with that bit. He has a decent ball control and that's it.

Moreover, his decision making are just average. It's a good thing he's honing his striking skills because with his pace, he's already a nightmare to deal with.

nitrogen:
Seriously, I would love to see this tomorrow.

------------------De Gea-------------

Raphael-----Jones------Rojo----- Shaw

-------------------Blind---------------------

-----------Fellaini------Mata------------

--Valencia------------------Di Maria-----

-----------------Falcao--------------------

Van Persie should come in later.

elampiro:
Coogar, you did research on Messi, can we see the outcome? Verifiable evidence.

*Seriously, I don't believe that Messi's statement at all. The way Messi celebrates his goals when the tallies pushes him above CR7, goes to show he is so much alert to and conscious about the competition between them. Then when he was awarded Ballon d'or the last time, he was virtually mocking at CR7. But when CR7 won, he could hardly looked into Messi's direction. He was head bowed most of the time.

RuuDie:
You do realize that everything you say to defend welbeck is like further digging a hole and slotting him in... Defensive winger you say; ok!

On the side of those that have more commonsense than to swallow some of the crap you cone here to spew!
if you love cr7, love him...but don't try to paint messi bad.

Arobake: The only Nigerian man/husband that anyone can be sure of the number of his wives and children is a dead Nigerian man.

shymexx:
That's the madness in today's world.
I saw a thread about the ‘yes Means Yes” law in California on here, a few weeks ago, and I just had to shake my head in disgust. They're about to turn folks into robots.

RuuDie:
And I will say again, add up everything he scores in all competitions - it will not surpass the lowest of all the UTD strikers can muster!

RuuDie:
Abegi park, research from where!? Privileged few my black bvtt!

shymexx:
Bwahahahaha

They're just delusional! They want men to take all the blame, including theirs - yet want equality and a perfect world.

Someone should have kept them in the kitchen.

RuuDie:
And all the while, we've been looking for central defenders and defensive midfielders when that koffi was here. Sh•t!

Well, I no blame Una... Na SAF cause all dis rubbish!

RuuDie:
quite rich coming from someone who continually trumpets everyday, "the media will print what will make 'em sell..." I can see the way you preach what you practice!

Messi should be given 100 Oscars to go with the balons because till tomorrow he is still 'fooling' us with his 'public' humble demeanor!

shymexx:
If the love to eat their cake and have it - then they have to also start taking responsibilities for their own actions. And stop crying everywhere and labelling folks as chauvinistic pigs and misogynists.

RuuDie:
What exactly does Welbeck do!? He hardly shoots... He doesn't play close to the goalkeeper... Bla, bla, bla...!

shymexx: Evidently, the power is there - but women just lack the wit and temperament to manipulate it in their favour. You only get what people give, once there's none - you'd have to adapt. That's just human nature.

bebe2:
What if the guy is not so much into the woman.

I dont see why u wud be making love to someone u r attracted to and not cum.

Am sure most women have little tricks of pulling their man in if he is
staying too long