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sauer: http://www.physicsclassroom.com/reviews/momentum/momans.cfmbut the benz and the honda are not of equal mass, why is your physics so flawed? |
sauer: Okay good. If the Benz rammed into a stationary identical Benz: think about it for a minute bro. . . .Identical. Stationary. The damage to both cars SHOULD, theoretically, be the same, everything being equal.the damage to both cars cannot be the same - the stationary object would definitely come off worse. what are you telling me? it would absorb most of the impact while waiting like a sitting duck with the windows shattered! I agree the picture is not conclusive. However, it doesn't mean we can't draw reasonable inferences. To this end, your earlier conclusions were wrong and from indications it appears you have seen this. You should admit you were wrong.how can you draw inferences from assumptions? if the honda had rammed into the benz in a stationary position, the benz would come off worse as well. |
oladimejiX: perhaps ypu should do a search on the story before you stick to your guns on this matter, what was posted here is an excerpt of the full news, why don't you go read it here http://www.nigeriagalleria.com/news/fullnews.php?fn_id=4898 and see full details of the court proceedings on the case, maybe then you would quit repeating, it's fakethis is what you should have done in the first place instead of posting a useless link that looked like it was penned by an agbero. when i read articles, i want to see quotes in it. the headlines do not move me - too many fake stories on the internet! |
sauer: Of course, m1 is not equal to m2. I only set out with the variables you provided yourself up there. Remember? That's how I came about v2.i disagree......if the benz rammed into a stationary identical car, the damage would be the same. the honda is a car too made of steel, it's not a sheep or a bag of diapers. Benz would move of course. That's because this is not a purely elastic collision. It can't be an elastic collision. In spite of that, the most of the energy involved in the collision didn't translate into full motion of the Honda. If the Honda subsequently moved at the speed at which the Benz hit it, then it wouldn't have got dented.some of the energy would be converted to sound, heat, etc. in a nutshell, the picture is not conclusive enough. Sibrah: They are both cars but aren't made of the same material. Most newer cars have more plastics in them than the older cars. If action and reaction are equal and opp. You shld know that the impact on both sides are equal but the material strength will of the materials largely involved (Bumper and parts directly connected to the bumper) in the impact will determine the level of deformity experienced on both sides. The line of arguement you are presenting is what confused novice present anytime they get into such arguments as a result of accidents.so compare like for like.......don't use wood and wax as examples when the issue is about 2 cars. sauer: Really proceeding from a beautiful example Lagusta gave: if the Benz had rammed into a trailer, the trailer would get more damaged, right? smh!trailer is heavier....massive enough to take the momentum of the benz. let a speeding hummer ram into a stationary cocacola truck and let's see who would come off worse! |
[quote author=BABE!]Multiply the weight of the head by 10= 200lbs. If 10 men headbutt a 70lbs stationary HARD rock, they will all suffer. When you're less busy, lets do some practicals.[/quote]they would destroy the rock.......if 10 yokozunas ram their backsides on a 70lb rock, the rock would flatten! |
[quote author=BABE!]Now the question is, are the skeletal materials for both cars the same ? Are their masses even the same ? If a 150lbs human being headbutt a stationary 70lbs hard rock, the human being will suffer the most. If the Honda was made of a much more stronger/relective material, it's very possible that more damage would have been done to the Benz. Material does play an important role.[/quote]if a 150lbs human being headbutt a stationary 70lbs hardrock, the human being would suffer the most because his head weighs less than 20lbs. the point of contact is only his head and not his total 150lbs weight. Sibrah: Olodo . . . its all about the strength of the materials comprising the two systems - Honda and Mercedes Benz. If a stationary wooden object gets rammed into by a another object covered in a malleable substance like soap or candle wax, do u think the wood will get damaged/deformed more at the expense of the wood? The wood may bounce back and change position based on the momentum(high Mass or high velocity) of the maleable object because action and reaction are equal and opp but will hardly get damaged. It is a purely a Strength of Material thing.you must have failed physics in class - why are people bringing up ridiculous examples. the benz and the honda are both cars, shaped almost the same way and the point of collusion is almost the same surface area.....now they are using soap rammed into wood. who is the olodo? with this idiotic logic of yours, it's not hard to see why you failed physics in your junior high! |
sauer: That formula means all the kinetic energy from the benz should transfer to the honda and move it. Assuming no energy lost, Benz should become stationary and Honda should move at v1=50m/s, well that's if it could move. Apparently, it didn't move too far (as evidenced from the picture), and the remainder energy simply dented the car. Point is, the material it's made of absorbed most of the energy and prevented motion.benz would not become stationary, it would still move after the collision, honda would also move some distance and thus taking some impact from the benz. that's simple logic. if the material both cars are made of is the key then the benz is considerably weightier than the honda. thicker material means bigger mass so m1 and m2 are not equal! This proves no point.yes it does - a moving object holds all the aces provided the moving object and the stationary object have roughly equal mass. |
gboss4sure: Forget physics, if na the M Benz jamed a trailer now would you have brought physics into it.trailer have a bigger mass to withstand the impact a smaller car would bring. the trailer would still take some damage albeit small. sauer: No, nothing stops the collision from "causing extensive damage" to the moving object. The vibration resulting from that cash should naturally also affect the moving car. Think about this for a minute, a car crashes into a solid, immovable wall. The vibrations resulting from that crash will all be reflected back into the car and will dent it.you are assuming a lot here - if a moving object collides with a stone wall, a lot of variables are at play. what's the mass of the bricks that made the wall? what's the mass of the moving object and it's speed? if the momentum of the moving object is bigger than the brick wall, the moving object would destroy it. if a german panza tank rams into a prison wall for instance, the wall would dissolve like garri in water and the tank would suffer no damage at all. the tank is super-heavy with a considerable speed. If the wall were made of a different material, could move and is not totally reflective. What gets dented (car or wall) is now totally dependent on material.the material would get translated to the mass. the thicker the material, the more mass! |
Lagusta: hmmm, now that was harsh, most of us know the law of inertia nah, and that special formulayou no get am at all.... let's assume the benz and the honda have equal mass. m1 = 1200kg and m2 = 1200kg v1 = 50m/s and v2 = 0m/s the stationary car has no momentum. it's just there waiting to be räped. then the benz rams into it. what your formular is trying to prove is the common velocity both objects would travel after collision - you should be looking for impact = Ft Lagusta:get a bulletproof landcruiser to ram into a stationary bulletproof g-wagon and come back here and show me the result. |
sublimes: didn't you read in the OP's post that the Honda was stationary and the benz in motion? Please be sensible.you can easily tell apart the people that skipped physics classes in high school to chase grass-cutters in the bush. sauer: Am not so sure about this. Theoretically, this would be an elastic collision where mass and energy will be conserved, even though we know there'll still be some loss to environment.the momentum of the moving object would cause extensive damage to the stationary object. it would set it in motion and the force that sets in motion would damage the stationary object. that law applies to any collusion. |
Lagusta: Abeg make we bone physics joor, this is practical.... The materials used to make a german machine are more durable, stronger and even more appealing to the eyes than those japanese toyspark a benz(G-wagon) and let a toyota landcruiser at 90 km/hr ram into it. let's put the durable german materials into test. |
[quote author=Lord_Reed]This accident took place in the car park of my office so I don't know what speed it happened at but the Honda was parked and the Benz rammed into it. Here's the Benz.[/quote]the stationary object would be more damaged - that's physics...... if they collided with the same speed, then the smaller object would take more damage. it's about the mass and the velocity. |
hornipipe: At 42 you still have dreams and aspirations to be a millionaire.?https://24.media.tumblr.com/c3541308ca5991cce5526dbb3728b46e/tumblr_mk4kvb9mTW1s9n4cro1_400.gif |
Hugoboi: In other words, you are saying the end justifies the means right? I'm sorry but ur logic is flawed. Maybe you'd see nothing wrong in earning millions of dollars being a "Indecency super star" like say....Lexington Steelehow's she a pörn star? so if you make a home video of you shâgging your girlfriend, then it makes you a pörn actor? nigerians make me laugh sha. this is something everyone does behind closed doors. someone had the balls to record her sex session and sell it to the world to make money and you are calling her a pörn star? would you not rather make cool money for all those sweats and energy you waste havïng sex with priscilla(your girlfriend)? |
oladimejiX: it's not a fake story, it was carried by punch and it was also on the radio, so i wonder why u are blatantly concluding its a fake newsit's a fake story. why are they only showing the victim? where are the culprits? show me one quote from any of the parties involved in this fake news. where is the investigating officer assigned to deal with this matter? you people in your bid to cop traffic to your blogs make up nonsense stories to fleece unsuspecting nigerians. i repeat, it's a fake story! |
Revolva: You are an idiot of low self esteem...I dissed kim and u are here crying her cry...what ma business if she is worth 40milla usd plus..who cares..I can't look up to her for my dreams and aspiration to be a millionaire..folks like Zukerberg, bill gates, larry and sergey of google..name dem those are my heros..ok and some rappers and actors of good standards not this bitch..am sure she is not brillant enough!!! Her beauty is just helping her..dats why she has no talent only to suck BBD ..and u idiot dey cry her cry!!!! Nigga f.uck uyou are just a bag of hot air. she has no talent and yet a citizen of your country paid her $500,000 for a 10-min cameo? hypocrisy at it's very best. if it's not your business that she's worth $40m, why are you here spitting saliva like a photosensitive epileptic patient? |
Hugoboi: Let me give you one reason.she should actually be applauded! how can an untalented woman who can neither sing nor dance fool people so much to earn $40,000 per TV episode. she's a genius and the people who call her a próstitute her morons. she slëpt with her boyfriend and made money with it. nigerian women do that on a regular basis for cheap meals of TFC and MrBiggs..... dopeJemi: Omo! Na dat 2face own dey vex me pass.. I'm overwheLmed by d rate of stupidity and ignorance of nigerians, Gawd! Its so annoyingyou have to blame the telecoms company that sold internet cheaply to a bunch of morons. the illiterates and the educated folks all have access to the internet so what do you expect? |
xynerise: This looks like a tribal mark to meor a woman that stole or someone that has just been accused of witchery. |
dopeJemi: @goldfish.. I don't care wen d topic was edited, I saw d "fake" when dis thread had 2pages and i stilL saw insuLts fLying in 4rm different peeps nau we r in page3 and insuLts r stilL fLying in and dat is what I calL sheer Ignorance and pLain stupidity.. Look at d case of eboue, after he had openLy cm out 2 say he wasn't d 1 dat tweeted dat ish abt nigeria and mikeL, some fooLish nigerians stilL used it against him and insulted his generation, nau telL me if dats not a dispLay of ignorance and stupidity.. Look I don't Like kim, buh when I saw d tweet even b4 it was decLared Fake I knew it wasn't reaL and I wasn't moved by it.. We nigerians r d most ignorant set of peopLe on earth and untiL we reduce our LeveL of ignorance I won't stop saying itnigerians are like a keg of gunpowder...... they all walk around with anger and venom in their system.....any opportunity to insult would be taken advantage of. it does not matter whether the story is fake or real. they did with the eboue saga, they are all writing stüpid letters to 2face as we speak because he chose to do his wedding in dubai. what sort of people are nigerians? |
AMTS: It's her real handle. It has over 17million followers. She is just å crazy bitch for sayn dat. Dt Scott guy, I don't blame him since he's d wife in d home. He's d one lookn like Ape. Ugly thing. I don't knw y kourtney even married him. He is just å decoratn in d house.it's not her real handle - stop misinforming the public! that's a crappy photoshop job. go to her twitter page and show us this tweet. the guy that made this photoshop is laughing at your stupidity! |
amina is a lunatic.... obviously, one of the reasons 2face did his wedding in dubai is because of obsessive bats like amina. newlyweds should be congratulated - criticise them for their choice of wedding venue already tells me amina is probably mentally-ill. |
fake story.... |
[quote author=cb_917d]Well said. Ignorant and stvpid people reply to this thread blindly. By your reactions on NL, likes, shares on FB, you're actually letting the initiator of this fake tweet realize his/her aim. And to your disbelief, you've earned her even more followers, yeah just like that yeye boy that was assaulted by Hazard of Chelsea.[/quote]nigerians for you...... you sometimes wonder whether our people are worth the certificates they carry. i can go on photoshop now and make jonathan goodluck eating human faeces - put a caption on it and half of the country would believe it..........it's really a shame people don't do any research before spilling their guts. the poverty has turned people into angry beasts! |
ikamefa: shuo!!!! see jamb kweshion ohhhhhsakes! anyways, you confessed you never liked her from day one so it's futile trying to convince you. i really don't understand why people hate her so much! |
ikamefa: oga if it floats yah boat carry go!it was her parody account there must be 30,000 fake accounts of kim kardashian on twitter. why would she say such about nigeria after netting $500k for a cameo appearance? |
ikamefa:shaking my head..... what has kim done to generate so much hatred from people? that's not her account - she cannot be that silly to ruin her brand by making a racist comment! nigerians should chill out and stop hating. i am not kim's fan but if this hatred continues i may become her biggest fan! |
Iyandasdiary: Dear Readers: Should I Divorce My Wife?i feel so sorry for you...... you just wasted all those years looking for what does not exist. virginity is really a facade and something men should stop focusing on. how do you know she's not a virgin? how can you prove she's not a virgin? are you aware some women are born with no hymen? are you aware some women through strenuous sporting activities tore their hymens? are you aware the ones even with their hymens intact could have let in several còcks through their rectums, mouths, etc? the only thing i can say is you have a rotten luck to have been born in the wrong century. |
talk slow: I dont wanna believe a 45yr old man could be playing this childish game of (first to comment). It reminds me of my childhood when we do (I touch you last).again, contrary to what you feel, old folks sometimes want to feel young. |
chyseth: Oga am not really idle, somehow i think am more busy in the office than she does. its just that, i feel after work, possibly by night one should call a loved to share work and related experiences of the day.i am not harsh..... just telling you as it is. never leave yourself in the position where your calls would be ignored. in short, don't ever call any woman unless she has begged 5 times to make that call. use your text message, BBM or whatever applies to pass the message across. calling should be the last resort when all other avenues have been tried. biolabee: @kool J], coogarbut that's exactly how men should be - stonehearted! i doubt any woman wants a guy that calls them every time. they simply don't like such overbearing partners so it's better you don't even attempt calling at all. if she wants to hear your voice, she would ask for it. He may want to run some thoughts on investments, office politics by someone removed from his surroundings and get a fresh perspective on stufflet him run all those tales with his male friends....... a man should stand a man - not an object to be ridiculed by the female species. |
talk slow: How much did you get for being first to comment? You people over do things in an irritating way. Everyone is not blind, we can clearly see you were the first to comment. You dont have to display your stupidity by writing it out. I'm sure you are one misplaced teenager with access to the internet. Get a jobcontrary to what you think - he's about 45 yrs of age..... Na Laugh: Yahoo boy tricked into making commercial for "Anus Laptops" by scam baiters. Watch the hilarious video.no seasoned yahoo boy would do this.....this guy must have been paid 4 bottles of star and 2 plates of chicken peppersoup to do this. it's so ridiculous! |
bloody talkative! go get a day job and stop haranguing the poor lady on the fone with your tale of woes. if you get another friend, she would ignore your calls as well unless she's a good-for-nothing idle mind like yourself. |
Odunnu: That man who wont want me to have his baby isnt born yet.https://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m9s8s4OGcZ1qdgy95o1_400.gif |
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