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Flashaldrin:
lol, maybe you are not in naija, many guys do that and even more just for a few cash from their sugar mummies. Dont blame me for your ignorance

on the contrary, you are the ignoramus here - never seen a man whining about his nature since i have been born.
your idiocy claims the cake.

for the second time, i'm not complaining, just saying. . . .

stick your sick opinion up your arse. . . .

I'm proud to be a man!the same risk they get in sleeping with lecturers, is the same they also get in love peddling. And besides, i said they've got options.

you're a man? says who. . . . you are a wimp of a man.
in my platoon, men like you are deployed to peel potatoes because the intelligence quotient is on a negative integer.

lol, because i dont trade childish e-insults, am a wimp?? Hahahahahahehehehe who is the wimp here now??
Talk is cheap man, only cowards resort to insults. I aint one, are you??

yes - you are a wimp.
i am the one putting it to you that you're a wimp. . . . .you cannot say it to my face, you can only whisper it under your breath to other pitiful human beings like yourself.

dayokanu:
I think it was coogar or someone who posted a video of some Alatika isale eko girls fighting all over London

It was Oshodi-oke reloaded.

those girls are proper butty chics. . . .they were just caught on candid camera throwing handbags.
i would still take those than the majority of the naija chics in the states!

Flashaldrin:
yea, many dudes will be willing to sleep with a malodorous, smelly-mouthed, frail-hearted and gray haired female professor(a coogar ), if given the chance, you know that.

no they wouldn't. . . . .not in the dna of naija boys to sleep with 70-yr old menopaused woman.
you know that. . . .

The point is women have the option to either pay or have sexx, mind you most of this girls are already love peddlers that have slept with countless men, so what is sleeping for grades?? And most of the men dont look as bad as you painted it.

if it's that easy, go for a sex change.
stop whining, flash-retardeen!

But the guys have just one option, pay up or pack up!

how much are we talking about here?
since many of you guys are into yahoo runs, why is it so difficult for you to pay up?
you want to compare the consequences of paying up to the risks centred around sleeping with old men? std/sti/pregnancy/occultic factor, etc.
are you from the land of philistine?

Ehen, am sorry i couldnt grace your insults with a reply, i dont trade e-insults, they are for kids.

you don't do e-insults because you are a spineless wimp.
the $64,000 question is: at what stage in your miserable life did you lose your balls?

afrodoc:
and if u r bin honest check it between hernandez and welbeck who has made more improvement as a player since 2010?
analyse where chicharito's game was in 2010 and where welbeck's game was in 2010 and compare to where they are now? i tink it will b obvious to anyone dt welbeck's game is improving at a faster rate than chicharito's(if d mexican's game has improved at all).he arrived as a deadly poacher and he is still a poacher and nothing else, welbeck on d other hand was a pacy player wit little strength n even less goal sense but dts not exactly d case now

ohh please. . . . .
chicharito is better than welbeck . . .it's just that welbeck has been luckier with injuries.

welbeck: 6 goals, 2 assists, 17 shots on target, 27 total shots, 13 key passes, 303/368 pass completion, 1070 mins
hernandez: 7 goals, 1 assist, 16 shots on target, 24 total shots, 12 key passes, 223/273 pass completion, 959 mins.

ThiefOfHearts:
Are you people ok? If a short film that OBVIOUSLY has a low budget can be critically regarded. that means you dont need a bloody huge budget for people to regard your movie. How the hell is that so hard for you people to grasp? Should i break it down in pidgin?

nollywood cannot even muster the low budget you are talking about here.
there are no 20 movies in nigeria with a combined budget of $3m. nollywood is that bad.

ThiefOfHearts:
I traded in my Nigerian passport for Ghanian 2 years ago, my friend

Im bantering with you people out of pity. wetin concern me for real

i see. . . . .then you shouldn't be here justifying the signing of the petition against thandie newton's lead role.
after all, you have traded your nigerian passport with a plate of porridge and 5 yards of kente cloth.

Flashaldrin:
In campuses a guy has to hussle for huge sums of money to sort an exam, while the babe go just open leg for the lecturer, and have sexx in which she derives as much pleasure.

this boy is a proper clown. . . .whoever brought you to nairaland must be running a circus.

so which is easier? paying sums of money to sort an exam or sleeping with a malodorous, smelly-mouthed, frail-hearted and gray haired professor.
you are a spineless wimp. i believe life is more unfair to women than the men.
think about it!

ThiefOfHearts:
Right.
which is why you have 30 min short films winning awards at Cannes.

you already shot yourself in the foot. . . . .30 min - short films.
nollywood don't make short movies and the reason short films are relatively low budget movies is because the actors don't spend as much time as a normal movie.

No offense coogar but in this particular area, you dont know what you're talking about.

on the contrary, you are the one with the green-tinted rose glasses here.

I know you Nigerians are all about money, but most directors want to be known for having a GOOD movie. Totsi received an Oscar despite being low budget. The sooner you realize this, the better.

we nigerians? what are you? congolese?

most directors want to be known for having a good movie but good movies cost $$$$$$.
tsosti budget was $3m = 500 million naira in nigeria.

please name 20 movies in nigeria with a [b]combined [/b]budget of 500 million naira.

ThiefOfHearts:
so you think a movie needs a huge budget to be good

How did that work for Red Tails?

anyway.

no, it doesn't have to. . . .continue to spend 2 million naira on movies and expect it to be a blockbuster.
small budget movies = c-rated actors/actresses and roadside movie producers.

there's a reason james cameron movies hit big. . . .it's because he spends mega-zillions on them.

ritchboy:
Internazionale of Serie A are READY to make an opening bid of £40m for him and treble his wages to £120,000 a week. Guardian speculated they were "ready", hehehe, is that the best you can do? I'm utterly disappointed!

it was not a mere speculation. moratti was at north london few times to discuss the possibility. mourinho was also making enquiries.
it's the reason there's now a buy-out clause on bale's contract.

Saha has managed about 1,300 league minutes and has scored only one goal. . . That must literally be the worst record of any striker in the whole of Europe! Even Fernandon't Scorres has done better and no one considers him a "top, top player" anymore!

he scored 7 goals in 1300 mins last season, 13 goals in 2300 mins in the penultimate season.
in arsenal, only van persie is better than louis saha.

Past Vs Present. At the time Clichy left Arsenal, he'd been crap for two seasons and was easily the weakest link in the team. If he was a top player then everybody else in the starting 11 must have been zenith players.

crap enough for city to pay £7m for his services. . . .and he's been crap for the top team in the league having copped almost 1500 mins for them.
please, the only reason clichy appeared crap was the lack of effort from arshavin. arshavin exposed clichy a lot cos arshavin never tracks back.

United had the option to buy him, no?

but he wasn't good enough. 5 league goals in 29 apps did not impress us at old trafford.

Cesc was also a one-off!

same as nasri, hleb, toure, gallas, adebayor and clichy.
ritchboy, you cannot count?

And how many times does this happen in a season? Every time there's a set-piece and the kicker/thrower is waiting for players to get into position/referee's whistle the match is also "halted", maybe we should deduct those minutes as well cos stoppage time definitely doesn't account for all the "stoppages" in a game!

it happens every time. this is why it's called stoppage time.
every time the game is stopped, the referee stops the clock and starts it as soon as he blows the whistle.
counting 2 mins, 3 mins added time is you clutching at straws. a football game is 90 mins.

Typo. Obviously i meant 1,500 mins otherwise i wouldn't have included VdV.

typo? how many other stuff have you mistyped today?

You should add them cos they woulda been starting games if they were fit.

only 11 players can start.
do me a favour, tell me arsenal's starting xi.

I'm sure i reiterated a dozen times i wasn't citing injuries as the main reason Spurs are above Arsenal.

you did. . . .you said they have been lucky with injuries and 9 of their players have copped more than 1600 mins this season.
then i replied that 8 of arsenal's players have copped the same number of minutes and the difference isn't enough to have placed arsenal far below spurs.

He's starting because Wilshere/Diaby are injured. How did Amos cop minutes against Stoke, is he now United's number 1?

in the absence of wilshere/diaby, arteta and song should be preferred but surprise surprise. . . .wilshere has copped more than the duo.
amos copped minutes against stoke but he has a total of 90 mins this season. . . .de gea has 1260 mins, lindegaard has 720 mins.
using amos as an analogy in comparison with ramsey copping more minutes than all your midfielders is a bit daft.

aaron ramsey is a starter for arsenal!

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toy helicopter? oh my gosh.

afam4ever thinks we have come of age. . . .
as far back as the 70s, the indians were spending as much as $400,000 on movies like sholay.
the biggest budget on any nigerian made movie cannot be more than 10 million naira - and i am being generous.

they cannot even pay their actors.
recently, they banned actors pressing for 1m naira in nollywood - the producers just go into the rural areas and look for camera-happy people. . . .train them for few days and they are ready to feature in movies.

moremi2008:
Funny, I asked my grandma the same question! The Ijebu people are not feared for their "thrifty spending". They are feared because they used to be really wicked slave catchers and traders (that's where the Ijebu kingdom made a lot of its money) and they have a reputation for strong fetish practices.

I am afraid that I sort-of agree with those fears. I have seen Ijebu ladies display and they aren't easy oh (my uncle married two of them! Ojigbijibi! That house is hot like fire! One of them just ran mad two years ago and the other one's very old children are unmarried and jobless)  If you must marry one, you will need to go spend a month on a holy mountain in preparation! 

Abeg let's not derail the thread with Ijebu people stories.

odikwa serious!
ijebu babes don suffer. . . .

Ibime:
[size=14pt]Petition to have Chigurh FC excluded from Nairaland FPL[/size]

         -Amangala: FPL League cannot be led by faceless cabal

Dear Eldee,

This is a watershed moment in Nairaland FPL history. Never in the history of Nairaland FPL has the league been won by an absentee and faceless manager. We the stakeholders of Nairaland FPL have some pertinent issues to raise with you, namely:

• Chigurh FC manager Sauron has not been seen on Nairaland for 18 months. How did he get the Nairaland code?
• Sauron is not here to celebrate his FPL success but Coogar seems more than happy to celebrate for him.
• How is Coogar able to access the Nairaland league and comment on the progress of teams on an intra-gameweek basis?

These disturbing events are unprecedented in FPL history. We the stakeholders thus demand that you give Sauron a 1-week ultimatum to post on this forum to prove that he is still a member of this community. Please be reminded that we only compete in this league in keeping with an esprit de corps which necessitates communication and banter with fellow players. It is therefore sine qua non for Miguel Munoz to identify himself as an involved member of this community.

It will be recalled that 2 seasons ago when the League was under the proactive administration of Ibime Tamuno, the leader of the league Mubz FC was forced to identify himself as a member of this community and was subject to the same 1-week ultimatum we now ask you to extend to the current league leader Miguel Munoz. It will also recalled that a faceless usurper called Terryfic FC was kicked out of the league because he was not a member of the community and had received the code from Reeama Reeama.

We the Nairaland FPL managers refuse to be led by a faceless cabal. The banter and camaraderie we share on these pages are the raison d’être of the league. We cannot accept faceless participants.

We therefore request that you tell us how you gave Sauron the FPL code when he was incommunicado. We also request that you petition him to identify himself as one of us or face exclusion. We would also like you to clarify the relationship between Coogar and Miguel Munoz.

You have 48 hours to respond to this request.

Signed on behalf of Nairaland FPL managers

Captain Amangala 

captain amangala faces the sack and he goes on a meltdown. . . .amangala is cracking up, amangala is cracking up.
usurping 51 points difference is giving amangala the mares. catch miguel munoz if you can.

Ibime:
• Chigurh FC manager Sauron has not been seen on Nairaland for 18 months. How did he get the Nairaland code?

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=716327.msg9580857#msg9580857
as you can see, sauron was here about 2 months ago which negates your idiotic claims.

• Sauron is not here to celebrate his FPL success but Coogar seems more than happy to celebrate for him.

man utd solidarity. i have cheered chamotex and other united stalwarts on the f-p-l. i even cheer ritchboy sometimes.
how is this your problem? sauron is a member of this forum, coogar is a member of the forum.
the 2 of them have a right to play in the f-p-l. . . .that's the most important factor.

• How is Coogar able to access the Nairaland league and comment on the progress of teams on an intra-gameweek basis?

trade secrets, my friend!

ritchboy:
Mr Coogar, i don't have any more spare time to be debating who is better than who, but:
When? Where's your credible source?

yes, they did. . .
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/jan/28/tottenham-hotspur-gareth-bale?intcmp=239

Pay attention nigga. I said bar Modric, no club has shown any concrete interest in their so-called "top, top players", i hear Saha(who Fernandon't Scorres has ironically outscored this season) is among them!

saha is perpetually injured.

See daylight fraud. . . Okay, you can start by listing all the "top players" to have played for both clubs since Carrick era(when Spurs started competing for UCL spot) and how many bids they have received. I hope you're aware listing the likes of Clichy and Walker(lol @ Spurs "held on to Walker!" as a top players could potentially flood the room with worms!

how is clichy not a top player. ever since ashley cole left arsenal, gael clichy was arsenal's left-back.
in his time there, arsenal competed in europe and never finished below 4th. in that period, clichy won a place in the pfa award and with your own mouth, you declared clichy was a better left back than evra. so how's clichy not a top player.

In the same period, United have lost: Ronaldo, Tevez, Saha("top, top player!" O'Shea & Brown(can't be worse than Clichy! ) etc

tevez was never a united player. he was loaned to united.
ronaldo was a one-off. . . .and united have played in another european final and united have won a league title since the portugese left united.
the same can't be said about arsenal.

Van Der Vaart has over 1,500 minutes(including stoppage time). Also, 'Arry frequently subs off Van Der Vaart around the hour-mark when he customarily disappears from games, which twist his stats.

including stoppage time? are you a tool?
the stoppage time was added in the first place to balance the moments of inactivity on the pitch.
a streaker runs on the pitch and it took 3 mins to take him out. . . .in those 3 mins, the match was halted and the 3 mins was later added as stoppage time.
are you saying every starter on the pitch played for 93 mins

your clutching at straws have reached a whole new level. . . .plus added time my arse. your criteria was 1600 mins. vdv hasn't even copped 1500 mins.

You forgot to add:

Vermaelen - 1,100
Santos + Gibbs - 1,080
Sagna + Jenkinson - 950
Wilshere - 0
Diaby - 22

why should i add these ones? you highlighted the top 8 starters and i made comparisons with tottenham based on the 1600-2000 bracket.
the difference is at best very marginal. it does not correlate with the massive difference in points.

man utd don't even have 8 starters that have copped more than 1600 mins this season and they lie 17 points ahead of arsenal.
can you explain why this is so? you are free to use any mathematical theory + added time and the atmospheric pressure in england.

You can't be listing Ramsey as a starter, nor Per AND Kos.

if ramsey isn't a starter, how did he cop 1800+ mins?
ramsey has copped 23 appearances this season. .  .he has started every league game for arsenal this season bar the wolves game.

afam4eva:
Yes, as far as they are subtitled. So, what having you been crying about all along?

i am talking about box office stuffs. . . .not some rubbish layered on dvds/vcds.
theatre - the ish that takes it to the next level. . . .red carpet stuff.

If we keep speaking queens english in our movies, how will you be able to distinguish them from other english speaking movies from other countries? We have to take the world by storm by producing movies in our local dialects and subtitling them.

it won't wash. . . . .
nigeria itself is not that homogeneous so you are struggling to even get a national dialect apart from pidgin english.
so we are back to square one.

afam4eva:
That doesn't change the fact that english is still not our native language. I can tell you authoritatively that a huge majority of Nigerians don't speak good english. Indians were also colonized by the british. How come over 90% of their movies are done in hindi and other indian languages? na only us sabi speak english? Despite all the english we speak in our movies we still haven't been able to compete with the indians.

how did you come at that conclusion. there are loads of people in nigeria who cannot speak the native language. . . .they can only read/write in english

that aside, a vast majority of our movies are done in other dialects and pidgin english - they are being viewed in the caribbean, south america and other parts of africa as long as they are subtitled.

Slumdog millonaire was mostly done in hindi(i think) but was a huge success. Viva riva, a congolese film was done in their local dialect and was received worldwide. We have to be unique. That way we will be respected the world over.

unique in what language? yoruba? igbo? hausa? efik?
waiting for your answer. . . . .

instead of you to admit that our movie industry needs sanitation, you are here screaming inferiority complex.
the acting, the production, that we don't even have a super studio to do these movies is just a disgrace.

montelik:
Wanted to discuss this at d start of d season. But we no longer have a really quality PK taker. In last few years we d likes of Irwin, Ruud and CR7 as designated taker. I believe Ruud only failed to score twice out of all his attempts. CR7 also only failed to score one in d UCL against Barca at Camp Nou and another in Moscow shootout, out of all his attempts. Irwin's record from d spot was also ridiculously consistent too but at point Ruud eclipsed it.

ronaldo missed one against west ham @ upton park(07/08).

Now Rooney is d designated taker now, but I just don't feel confident when he steps up, even when d score is comfortable and there is no pressure. I think Javier should be d one to take them when he is on d pitch. His pk against Stoke was a real throw back to Ruud's low, hard and last corner placement. Besides he is d best finisher of all d strikers on d books.

anderson is our best penalty taker. . . .he has 100% success.

rooney is a tool.
berbatov is also top drawer bar the one he missed against everton fa cup.
nani has also missed one @ craven cottage last season otherwise, he's pretty good.

afam4eva:
What has having a good command of English got to do with been a good actor? How much of english do people like Antonio banderas and all the latin actors in hollywood have. All they just have to do is read what's in their script.

but nigerians are different. we were taught english language as kids just the way kids are taught in the england and america. we have no excuses to be as bad as latinos whose first language is spanish. you are clutching at straws here, my friend.

Also, that english is your official language does not mean you should do every movie in english. Infact that's a senseless thought. I see no reason why an epic or rural nollywood movie should be done in english when most os our rural dwellers can't even speak semi-good english. Who are we fooling?

so what language do you suggest? yoruba or igbo and you want the global appeal? now i know i shouldn't have replied you in the first place.
are you aiming to make money from the rural dwellers or are you aiming the global audience as your target? which is which?

Did all hollywood actors attend drama school. And is that a criteria for deciding who a good actor is? Whatever happened to talent. Your opinions are borne out of the inferiority complex that have ravaged our country. The sooner we got out of that quagmire the better it will be for our country.

show me one brilliant hollywood actor/actress that did not study drama/arts/theatre!
talents have to be harnessed, groomed and trained. you just don't have the raw talents and get in front of the camera.
football players with talents still need to train with state of the art facilities everyday to get on the pitch at top level - same as acting.

this is not about inferiority complex - this is about telling the truth.
our actors/actresses are substandard. the industry needs to be revamped.
some of the indian movies of the 70s and 80s are far better than all the nollywood movies i have seen. nigerian movies are that bad!

ritchboy:
I thunk you woulda noticed i left out players on loan. One of Gallas or Dawson would partner King in the first team so you cannot list both of them as back up players.

why leave the players on loan? the players on loan were still at tottenham when tottenham made these giant strides.
they have all took part at one capacity or the other to hoist tottenham ahead of arsenal in the last 22 games or so.
in short, they have to be included.

A back four of Nelsen, Dawson, Kaboul, Rose cannot be better than Jenkinson, Mertersacker/Koscielny, Djourou, Gibbs.

where is gallas in the tottenham line-up?
first team would be walker - ledley king - kaboul - assou-ekotto.
2nd team would be corluka - dawson - gallas - rose.
if you don't think tottenham have a better 2nd team defence than arsenal then you are on a long thing.

Yes, Huddlestone, Giovani, Sandro, Livermore and Kranjcar are of better quality than Rosicky, Ramsey, Diaby, Chamberlain and Benayoun. Don't make me laugh.

rosicky, ramsey benayoun and diaby are misfits abeg.
giovanni, sandro, kranjcar are so much much better. giovanni dos santos is a better player than chamberlain as we speak.
tottenham have the better midfield in the first and second team than arsenal.

Hehehe, which multitudes? So far you've managed to list just Modric and Bale, who no one ever bid for! Apparently clubs are only (concretely) interested in him on goal.com.

inter made £45m bid for bale.
barcelona were also sniffing him recently and this is why redknapp slapped a £150m buy-out clause in his contract.

Like i said, Spurs have no "top players" to hold on to because they either aren't in demand or aren't "top players" to begin with.

they have no top players and they are way above of you in the league. . . . . .what does that say about arsenal's top players?
bale, modric, van der vaart, lennon, walker, etc are top players. they held on to what they have. . . .within the same period, arsenal have lost hleb, adebayor, clichy, nasri, fabregas, kolo toure. top players most arsenal fans didn't want to see go. my simple arithmetic tells me arsenal have lost more top players than tottenham have done in recent times. tottenham have only lost berbatov and carrick - they had more than enough cover for the duo when they lost them.

Story, Spurs' "squad" hasn't been stretched, it's the same group of players that have been carrying them(Friedel, Modric, Parker, Bale, BAE, Walker, Adebayor, VdV, Kaboul). All these players(9 in total out of a starting 11) have copped about 1600-2000 minutes in the league while Arsenal lead the league in players used with a whopping 27!

Let me reiterate again, i am not trying to play down Spurs' achievements, they've been great. But some of the comparisons are baseless.

walcott - 1705 mins
van persie -1984 mins
arteta - 1737 minutes
koscielny - 1868 mins
metresacker - 1668 mins
szczesny - 2070 mins
alex song - 1667 mins
ramsey - 1833 mins


van der vaart hasn't even copped 1500 mins this season so he fails to meet your criteria.
mr ritchboy, you are clutching at straws here. tottenham have been better than arsenal this season because they had the better squad.

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apple did the right thing banning a wolf-crier.

4llerbuntu:
U dey mind the moomoo, charlie miller regularly disgraces apple yearly with his discoveries and hacks yet this one wants us to believe apple is the holy grail.

Be a fanboy all u want, its allowed, just cease and desist from exhibiting ur foolishness. Anyway i can see your disciples are already applauding, somehow slowpoke manage to locate themselves and form alliances regularly on nl.

apple is the holy grail. . . .that you are spiritually poverty-stricken should not make you bitter. . . .
pound for pound, apple thrash the other products. . . . .if you have any evidence that i am overstating apple's case - bring them here and let's see how clued up you are in the world of gadgets - you homoerotic neophyte!

4llerbuntu:
This excuses you make for torres make a bit of sense on paper, then you think about it and the idiocy of it becomes apparent.

brilliant theories would look idiotic to tools.
since the discussion is a bit advanced for troglodytes like yourself, i would advise you to stay away before i reveal how plonkerish you are.

You say they don't pass the ball quick enough, don't release him one on one etc, but like the Spain example you cited where teams defend deep, that means torres is not useful except the team he plays for play gung ho attacking football and the other team is foolish enough to play same.

he is useful. . . . .how's he not useful?
how does hernandez get the space they run into with mexico?

besides that, torres is not the star player in spain. they have so many world class talents so i can understand del bosque not building the team around torres.
but villas-boas is silly for not building his team around the most-prized asset in chelsea. it's the only reason chelsea are far behind the league leaders.
when a manager spends £50m on a striker - the team gets built around that player.

Why do you keep requiring that certain condition s must be in place before a well paid professional footballer can perform?
that's equal to saying i can only study and pass an exam in a air conditioned room!
as a professional he is mandated to adapt. The example of Filippo inzaghi you vote is even more eye opening. He played in the Italian league, where defending is an art and actually applauded, he played for the best team, mist teams are guaranteed to defend against them, how come he scored regularly?

united play javier hernandez in a certain condition. against teams who sit deep and invite pressure, you won't see hernandez starting such games.
against teams who give it a go or in away games where even smaller teams come out to play, hernandez starts. . . .this is the reason he has scored more goals away from home. that was how chicharito scored 20 goals last season. torres can be managed in a similar way.

Going by what you keep saying Torres is liability you keep on the bench and play only when the moon,and stars align. The other team must be foolish to come out, not press the ball or mark and also leave torress in a one on one situation with their defenders, else we should not expect goals?  Given those requirements even emile heskey would be a world beater.

he's not a liability unless you are a super-tool.
torres is a wonderful tool in away games. teams would always force the issue and the space to run into would avail itself in the end.
even when he's on the bench, put him on when chelsea is ahead 1-0 and the opponents are daring to equalize.
why was benitez successful with torres? how's ferguson successful with chicharito? why can't chelsea be successful with torres?
lack of a good manager or lack of quality midfielders in chelsea?

So  torres cannot adapt or change style of play to get by? That the team is not doing enough for him is bullshyte, is he doing enough for the team upfront?

torres is the star player.
the manager and the other players must adapt to his style. . . . . . .ronaldo had to be shifted centrally in his last few days at man utd to cope with his liability of losing the ball and not tracking back. ferguson had to move him into an area of the pitch where even if he lost the ball, there are more than enough cover.
that is what people mean by building a team around a certain player. . . . .rooney had to be played on the left to accommodate ronaldo.
similarly, henry + etoo had to be played wide to accommodate leo messi centrally in guardiola's debut season.

Ibime:
According to Coogar, Torres can only play on counterattack if you slip him through one-on-one. That means Torres can never play for any big team because by definition big teams keep 60-70% possession whilst small teams defend in their own half negating any opportunities for counterattack.

liverpool were a big team when torres was there.
in 08/09 season, liverpool finished second. . . . .even ahead of chelsea and torres was the reason they did so well that season.
it doesn't have to be counter-attack. a measured pass from the deep would set torres free. . . . .

did liverpool counter-attack when kuyt was let through on goal to score the winner against man utd last weekend?
how did man utd get hernandez to score 20 goals last season. because united aren't a big team that keep 60-70% possession?
ibime, i can now see why you fail in the fantasy league - your managerial skills is archaic.

Hardunnii:
why is it that its only coogar that sees things differently, even my grandma knows torres is a big flop. coogar ur brain must be upside down

and your own brain has been smoky for years because of the fumes of akara it gets every now and then.
you are so poor in spirit, you see rainbow in black and white.

afrodoc:
LOL so u still want welbeck to start? in dis particular match however with chelsea at home n surely goin to play a higher line than team like stoke n everton,with chelsea's unsettled defence i tink hernandez' runs in behind n his general movement would b better.
of course valencia on d ryt,his left peg is for standin remember? wonder who will play left back for chelsea? bertrand,david luiz? valencia is currently on fire

the force is with welbeck and fergie clearly rested him for the chelsea game.
he's got the momentum. . . .hernandez was a bit short of match fitness yesterday. i would go with welbeck - didn't he score against chelsea last season when sunderland ran riot @ stamford bridge. his pace should kill terry and ivanovic.

Ibime:
Im just worried about Coogar/Sharon. Maybe I might sacrifice 4 points this week.

miguel munoz versus captain amangala? no chance, ijawboy!

if we roll out their credentials, you would turn into a pillar of salt.

ritchboy:
A top player with one league goal by February? *Jay-Z voice* Pardon me i had to laugh at that!
I'd take Park and Chamakh over Loius Haha everyday of the week.

just like you took chamakh/bendtner ahead of adebayor last season.

Everybody has injuries. The fact is Tottenham have had better luck with injuries than Arsenal this season, but that's besides the point.
Ho ho ho, which strength in depth?

tottenham are not luckier than everyone else.
they actually have more strength in depth than arsenal.

Spurs' second team: Gomes; Kaboul, Nelson, Dawson, Rose; Kranjcar, Sandro, Huddlestone, Giovani; Defoe, Saha;

Arsenal second team: Fabianski; Jenkinson, Mertesacker, Djourou, Gibbs; Diaby, Ramsey, Rosicky; Chamberlain, Benayoun, Park;

Arsenal THIRD team: Almunia; Eastmond, Squilaci, Miquel, Yennaris; Couquelin, Henderson, Ozyakup; Arshavin, Henry, Chamakh;

There is CLEARLY more quality in Arsenal's second team and i couldn't even be bothered to imagine what Spurs' third team would look like.

this is so farcical. . .

in the defence, spurs have walker, kaboul, corluka, bassong, dawson, gallas, ledley king, assou ekotto
even if we choose walker, kaboul, king and assou ekotto as 1st teamers. . . .it still leaves corluka, bassong, dawson and gallas(can play as left back).
tottenham's 2nd team defence is better than arsenal's. . . . .cudicini is better than fabianski.

then the midfield. . . .
spurs have huddlestone, rose, krancjar, sandro, livermore, lennon, bale, modric, parker, van der vaart
they often play 5 in the midfield. . . . .i put it to you that spurs would still play huddlestone, giovanni, livermore, sandro, krancjar, etc and still beat up the arsenal's 2nd team.

And you are basing this on a solitary example? What about Carrick? Berbatov? Of course it would seem Tottenham hold on to their top players to you because compared to Arsenal they haven't really had any top players to attempt holding on to!

carrick and berbatov - 2 players out of the multitudes they have been able to hold on to.
bale was wanted by most european teams after the season he killed uncle maicon.
they turned down modric's £40 million bid too. . . . .let's compare to arsenal that have lost adebayor, hleb, toure, nasri, fabregas, clichy within the same period.
abeggi. . . . let's call a spade a spade. . . .spurs are not 12 points ahead of arsenal because of fluke. . . .they have been better cos they have a better squad.

van persie and arsenal fc are a disgrace!
the most useless team in western europe!

ritchboy:
Why do i always bench Krul when he scores big?

you lack the gift of foresight.

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i have missed cleverley. we have missed his barcalonaesque string pulling in the midfield.
he's the master of one touch passing!

afrodoc:
we can play rafael,smalling,rio,evra at d back, carrick n giggs in midfield(only cos d chelsea midfield is as mobile n dynamic as Michaelangelo's statue of David)
rooney,nani n valencia behind ur boy chicharito.
dis is a match in which numerous gaps would appear in d chelsea backline esp cos they r playin at home n so will attack n also cos calamity luiz will b there plus or minus new boy cahill n MINUS Cole, infact a gud recipe for a nice meal of little peas

nani on the left, valencia on the right.
rooney and welbeck as strikers.

carrick and giggs would likely start in the midfield.
the defence should be rafael, rio, smalling and evra.

Ibime:
Newcastle defenders want fork me up. They better concede jor.

you're on a long thing ibime. . . . .i see you going back to 11th position by the end of tomorrow.
ipukulu marines need a spanish manager. captain amaganla is suffering from tuberculosis of the brain.

afrodoc:
meanwhile dis oxlade guy is makin weaving runs dt walcott will never make in his life! he can actually weave n dribble in tight spaces

he's a good player. . . .

meanwhile, fergie is confident rooney, nani and ashley young would be fit for the chelsea game.
can we have phil jones, anderson and cleverley too.

barcelona bailed out again by the match officials.

the goalkeeper clearly handles the ball outside the box to deny a goal scoring opportunity and the officials ignored it.
how much is barcelona paying spanish officials and yet la liga fans tell us the spanish league is not corrupt.
it's a fuckin disgrace!

afrodoc:
u INTENTIONALLY missed d point , d point was dt drogba improved all those areas of his game wit tym n bcame world class even wit his questionable technique
welbeck should b given tym to improve he will get bigger,stronger n mayb even faster nd his finishing will improve.he just doesnt hav to start so often at dis stage in his career.pls na dont obscure d truth when makin points, chicharito has a gud 1st touch? haba mallam!
concerning valencia he is d result of street football upbringing n defective education, remember he came to united at d ripe old age of 24, far too late at dt point.
its like a tennis talent who learnt by wackin oranges by d banks of d irrawady river n never learned backhand coming to nick bolleteri's school at age 20, even bolleteri would not b able to help his backhand

sorry to digress a bit. . .

i often wonder why tennis players use the backhand instead of the forearm.
i watch a lot of grandslam games and i can tell from my mind's eye that players make more unforced errors using the backhand instead of the forearm.
in actual fact, in all the games berbatov-like roger federer has lost, the relentless use of his backhand was his undoing. he makes loads of unforced errors trying to be cheeky.

[quote author=chi-baby link=topic=859170.msg10099627#msg10099627 date=1328126919]Well maybe marriage is not there because of financial reasons or wateva they reason maybe. Dat sed, With marriage being the missing link, A man still cannot be fulfiled in my opinion. Marriage is powerful when entered into by two individuals who desired it. However dats lecture for anoda day.

P.s my opinion Mr b4 u ask anoda silly question   [/quote]you need blood tonic. . . .

all i am just trying to say is your theory of no fulfilment without being married does not really hold!
that they are unmarried does not mean they don't have a permanent girlfriend who has been  performing the role of a wife for years. . .it does not mean they don't have children by these girlfriends. the only missing link is the marriage ish of saying "i do"!
if every woman allows that, most men won't enter into marriage.

ritchboy:
Xavi, Iniesta, Silva and the embarrassment of talent in Spain's midfield also lack the guile/technique/vision to put Torres one on one with the goalie/last defender. . . I laugh in braille!!!

there must be 1001 youtube clips on the webspace. . . .
show me one video torres was put through one on one with a goalkeeper and he fluffed his lines. . . . .

you charlatans have forgotten every team defends deep against spain. watch the world cup once again and see how teams like germany and even holland played 7 defenders against spain. where's the space to run into? even when these teams come out to play, spain would keep toying with the ball, short passes, slow paced, indirect football. how's that supposed to help a striker like torres?


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why was it so easy for torres to sodomize phillip lahm there? it was because the pass came to him quick and the pass set him through on goal.
that is nando torres' game. . . .if you are expecting him to score by receiving passes on his chest while backing 4 defenders like drogba and demba usually do then y'all are on a long thing.

BlueDiva:
In other words we have a clueless manager who knows nothing about man management.
I will accept all the mumbo jumbo if that is what this highlighted statement means.

it's looking like it. . . . .