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nateevs:
Ha! I forgot to add that I didn't find any link on tribal-football, I would have added it.

be merciful, you don't need to rub it in.
ibime is clueless, debosky is a troglodyte!

bluediva makes me laugh with her comments about football matters.

if chelsea are losing 2 players in january then common sense dictates villas-boas should get bodies in to replace these players.
should sturridge and ramirez get crocked, chelsea would be left thread-bare and they have not really blooded the youths like man utd for the young'uns to step up to the plate and start league games.

i don't get the arguments that the others are making as if january signings are a taboo. evra, vidic were january acquisitons for man utd. no one is even asking chelsea to spend £100m. it must be torturous being a rent boy these days. they can get players in the division to make up the numbers before they get caught out. there's a reason for a transfer window in january. chelsea should utilize it if they feel they are short in numbers to challenge the manchester giants.

mukina2:
na i'll pass

i called denzel now but he's at the nigerian house protesting oil subsidy removal.
he said when he returns, he's opening a thread for you.
mukina, are you ready for denzel's psyches?

nateevs:
You are dunce Ibime. Where will you go to next? The Sun?
I ask for proof and you are bringing Tribal football, Cautghtoffside?
Are these reliable links? You are one tabloid-reading dunce who who will go to any lengths to find anything.
You even go and quote forums? You are a disgrace.

Even when SSN were doing their last minute transfer round up, they never stationed anyone awaiting the signing of Meireles to Chelsea.
Was Meireles that difficult to sign?

Imagine the nonsense from him. . ,  Meireles was available for £13m because he had tow years on his contract. He moves to Liverpool where according to Debo and Ibime he is supposedly earning more money. 9  months later, Chelsea were offering £7m for him plus Benayoun. Word has it that Meireles agreed to move to Pool for a meagre package with a verbal agreement that his salary will be reviewed in a season. If Liverpool were so desperate to have as you claim, why offer a small package?

I thought you IN THE KNOW status was actually inform but silly goat was actually quoting tribalfootball. Go siddon Man!

i dunno why you pay attention to ibime. . . . his depth level of nincompoopery in advanced levels of football matters is peerless.
he knows next to nothing than to fashion out archaic links where a journalist's opinion is misinterpreted as facts.
tribal football? sun football? no credible quotes from meireles or his agent or the clubs involved and yes, ibime wants us to accept his links as the gospel truth.

some ijaw mothers do have them.

denzel loves grandmas . . . . . i told you, you and denzel fit like gloves.

vedaxcool:
Yeah truly, Nigerians, or should I say Southern and Christian Nigerians were literally tired of having Hausas in the state house, but at least Bukhari said, we should live with the consequences of what we voted for! and totally agreed, we Nigerians are not Americans, Britons or Australians, until we design our political system to adapt to our mentality, we would have to abort democracy endlessly, as GEJ have less than a year with the way his poo administration is going!

democracy has ruined nigeria. i cannot think of any democratic government doing anything good for nigeria.
we continue to delude ourselves with it and these ruthless politicians are loving it.

imperialists go into politics to serve their own people. nigerians go into politics to be served.
there's a universe of difference between the two. look at the obscene amount of salaries senators and the presidency get every month and compare it to the politicians in europe and america. it is a disgrace that we have been keeping quiet about this for a while.

mukina2:
Babe and coogar very wicked fefuls find a babe for dense na . .even if its half a babe

he fancies you but i need some facts from him yet to see his suitability.


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Coogar--- What do you think about Mukina's request? Freecocoa for Denzel? [/quote]good choice!

vedaxcool:
hhe hehe   pooluck sounds better,

Yeah actually I said people I persoanlly know are claiming such, in any case did you vote for him and what are the reaction of those you think voted for him towards his currently policy and are they in a state of denial?

i wasn't in the country during the presidential election so i didn't vote at all. i never supported jonathan poopluck cos i could see nigerians voted for him out of sentiments and romance. he was supported because he hails from a minority group or anyone but hausa or his hat fitted better than mexican cowboys and f@ckever other sentiments.

nigeria should go back to the military rule.
we are not mature enough to handle democracy.
it's about time we raise our hands and accept we are not americans, britons or australians.

[quote author=BABE! link=topic=809995.msg9877341#msg9877341 date=1325462957]lol. Jokes. You didn't speak to anyone. You were too "busy" to speak to anyone. [/quote]busy doing what?

vedaxcool:
All the people I personally know that were vigorously campaigning for Goodluck are now claiming they never voted during the election, in fact, people are saying he rigged his way into govt! have anyone had similar Experience?

beaf voted to jonathan and still supports him religiously.
i like his guts. even though he knows he's on a path to destruction, he has stuck to his beliefs about jonathan poopluck.

dmainboss:
You call this a success story? hmmm?

it's a success story. no casualty!

sledge406:
Today, various imbeciles except the late President Yaradua have come in the form of President and Head of State of this so called great nation called Nigeria have continually increased prices of goods and services including our "curse" called OIL Is this the good life I was promised before I was brought into the world? I will defintiely not let my children come into this part of the world if these are how things will go unless I'm convinced.

why is yaradua an exception?

aguiyi:
we are wise ,dialogue is the way to go bro, libya is yet to know peace same for egypt.

dialogue? when has dialogue ever worked in nigeria?

don't compare what happened in libya and egypt to nigeria.
they were not fighting to bring the price of fuel down in north africa.
apples n oranges!

otokx:
^^^ same here in Port Harcourt

how can port harcourt boil when they have enough fuel in their storage via bunkering.

debosky:
AVB - the simpleton!

nope - the fans are the simpletons and you are included too.

AVB = not a smart manager!

well, it's difficult for him to break the hierarchy at chelsea. chelsea operate like mafiosos.
the big boys @ chelsea are not performing to the best of their abilities and if villas-boas benches them and the new breed don't get a result, then he gets lampooned by the media. if he plays the oldies and he doesn't get a result, he's f@cked as well.

Ibime:
Dont worry, we will know when the new striker is ready to carry our team when we see it. Until then, we would not expose ourselves to such risk.
Make we plan our game around a striker who seem to have lost his movement, sharpness and acceleration?

like rooney did for almost a year when he didn't score from open play in 9 months?

Last time I checked, Torres got Roy Hodgson the sack, so no the car was creaking under its previous owner.

torres was injured during roy hodgson's reign. roy hodgson himself was not given enough money to buy proper players.
dalglish was given more than £100m to acquire players. there's a universe of difference between the two.

Shebi Messi did not pop goals before Guardiola decided to build the team around him the false 9 position.
Ronaldo was not showing effizy before SAF decided to free him of all defensive responsibility?

i am sure hernandez also showed effizy in ferguson's dream before he scored 20 goals last season.
these oafs make me laugh.

Let Torres show some effizy first, then we'll consider it.

hernandez didn't show any effizi before fergie put him on the shoulder of the last defender.
fergie must have seen hernandez's clips in mexico and he musta seen his exploits at the world cup. why didn't fergie play chicharito on the wing?

Its not hard. When he receive the ball, he should just demo small, dribble a few guys, enter box small etc etc etc.
Whether we play 4-2-3-1, 4-3-3, or WM formation, at least he should be able to trap ball properly before we hand him our future.

who doesn't miscontrol the ball in the premier league.
rooney, drogba, gervinho, hernandez, suarez, walcott, lampard, aguero, dzeko etc are all poor with ball control.

even the masters like dinho, berbatov, van persie don't get it right all the time.
this should not smear their other attributes.

Yet another parameter for the PARTICULAR striker? 

but that was what worked for him when chelsea saw him to spend £50m on him.
a smart manager should replicate the environment that torres thrived in @ liverpool.

it's as simple as a-b-c.

Ibime:
Before you fork a girl, you must first kiss her. If she refuse to kiss you back, would you start unzipping your trousers?

daft analogy!

i bought a car cos i have seen it race before at 500km/hr.
after acquiring the car, i refuse to service it like the first owner did. i never gave it oil, i mistreated it, often left it without care and blah blah blah and i still expect it to perform like it used to be. . . . .isn't that idiotic?

Why should a team build around a striker who failed to give any encouragement? If he showed small effizy first, then we would take the risk to change our whole team to fit him.

he failed to give any encouragement because he wasn't properly serviced.
he was never given a conducive environment to play his best - how can he show any small effizy.

this is like taking a newfie dog to nigeria without 24/7 split unit a/c provided.
the mongrel would give up the ghost in 20 mins.

Thats a gamble of the largest proportion. If we now build around him and he failed to deliver, how many millions (and points) woulda been wasted?
This is called prisoners dilemma. Game theory. Risk. Im sure all these mean something to you.

gamble of the largest proportion? what other gamble is much more than spending £50m on a striker?
no one is asking chelsea to buy up all the world class players on the planet. just do a reshuffling that plays to the strengths of torres.
torres is a spear-head. play him in a 4-2-3-1 formation.

a creative midfielder with vision like mata or benyaoun(a player you sent on loan) must be behind torres.
lampard for all his talents is too docile to be this kind of player. for all his resourcefulness, lampard is not elusive.
he is not in the same level of nasri, mata, silva, ozil, modric, van der vaart and hleb - lampard is too one dimensional.

then have kalou, anelka, sturridge, malouda, etc to flank this creative midfielder on both sides.
play 2-deep lying midfielders behind this roaming three. . . . .to protect the back four.
chelsea would rise from the ashes if they can do that. the 4-3-3 is not getting the best out of the players at villas-boas disposal.

having mata playing ahead of cashley has also exposed cashley to attacks!

medjai:
Really informative post from this guy, a Professor in Spanish at Brown University.

http://forums.liverpoolfc.tv/showpost.php?p=6859329&postcount=1148

that professor is an idi[i]o[/i]t.

it didn't even take me 5 mins to see the flaws in his idiotic submission.

professor:

Suárez could not have even said “tu eres” negro, which would be gramatically correct in Madrid, because in the Rio de la Plata area we would never say “tu eres negro”, but “vos SOS negro”. And that is a fact, not a matter of the opinion of anyone, not even the language experts consulted by the FA, of course. I am a native speaker of Montevideo, a PhD in Spanish by Stanford, and currently a professor of Spanish at Brown University, and if I was called to court on this, I would categorically deny that Suarez, who lived his adult life in Montevideo—despite being born in Salto—could have said other than “vos sos negro”. There is no way in the world he could have said to Evra, spontaneously and as a reaction to Evra’s words and attitudes, “porque tu eres negro”

In the interview with Mr Suarez, the transcription indicated to the experts that he uses the word "tu" in form of the verb.

i reiterate, that professor is a simpleton!

medjai:
Because his version/admission is different and less serious than Evra's accusation, which hasn't been proven beyond reasonable doubt.
Para 182. which is based on Evra's testimony the linguistic experts found the phrase that Evra accuses Suarez of saying to be "slightly unusual" and that perhaps another phrase would have been more appropriate to use if Suarez had intended racism. Interestingly, the panel seemed to ignore this aspect of the experts view.

it's a civil case - they don't have to prove beyond reasonable doubt. . . .the matter is not in court.
in civil cases like this, they decide based on probabilities.

Para 191 which is based on Suarez's testimony the linguistic experts found the use of the phrase "por que, negro?" sounds right linguistically and culturally. In para 190 and I quote "in Rioplatense Spanish the use of "negro" as described here by Mr Suarez would not be offensive".

if the recipient feels offended by being called a "negro", it is enough to convict the offender.
it's not what is being said that matters but how the offended perceives what was said.

if you call me a negro and i laugh about it then the context is different cos we are friends just messing around.
but if you call me a negro in a way to wind me up and provoke me in an unfriendly manner then you are trying to insult or racially abuse me which suarez did @ anfield. evra and suarez are not mates and the context in which suarez used the word was not friendly.

So you can throw away the argument that his usage of the word negro is enough to convict him because the proper experts concluded para 194 "if Mr Suarez used the word "negro" as described by Mr Suarez, this would not be interpreted as either offensive or offensive in racial terms in Uruguay and Spanish-speaking America".

the word "negro" is enough to convict him if the "offended" perceives at as an insult.
that is the uk law. suarez is in the united kingdom, not in uruguay or hispanic america

Suarez was basically convicted on one man's word i.e. that Evra's account of events were correct even though in a crowded penalty box no one caught Suarez using the word "negro" in a racist manner even though it is alleged he said it a number of times.
In fact, Evra's account of events hasn't been confirmed by any evidence or witnesses.
I want to know what Suarez and Evra said to each other exactly (six different accounts of events aren't helping here) and, more importantly, the tone/intent. The thing is that Evra's version was accepted despite the lack of any concrete evidence and not witness conforming it. Basically, the only evidence that Evra's version is true is that Evra said so.

evra's account of events were consistent though. suarez kept changing his statement as he saw the evidence held against him by the football association.

he used the word negro.
he admitted using the word negro.
the context in which the word he used it was provocative and unfriendly.

this is why the fa would ban him for 8 games.
he's guilty as charged.
in the united kingdom, it's the way the person receiving the insult perceives the insult that matters. . . .

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happy days!

Ibime:
This Torres seems to be a very PARTICULAR striker.
The man himself claims he must have enough Spanish speakers in the dressing room for him to perform, as well as fast midfielders and reh reh reh.
Debosky says 30% of his goals should come from crosses whilst Coogar maintains that 100% of them must come from counterattack through-pass to put him one-on-one with goalie.

the exact reason i said mata must be the chief creator and he must be played behind el-nino!

Next thing Coogar would tell us that the parabola which describes the motion of the pass over the top has to follow quadriatic cartesian co-ordinates whose second derivative must be exactly equal to the number 3.147, otherwise the pass will not be good enough for him to score. 

The match must be played at the particular time when the earth is 2/5th of the way through its full revolution round the sun, if not he would not score.
Oh yeah. . . . the goal which he is shooting at cannot be more than + or - 5 degrees in the direction of Mecca, if not he would not score.

That said, his all-round game was lively today and hopefully he is showing signs of revival. 

i get peeved when supposed intellectuals resort to ebonics to score cheap brownie points.

i really don't see what's ambiguous about fernando torres being a particular striker. chelsea saw something in torres to have paid £50m for him.
liverpool played torres in a system that played to torres strength. any club paying that much to buy torres should have had the same system @ liverpool in place to play to the strengths of the spaniard. unfortunately, the simpletons @ chelsea had no such system in place.

one would think a player worth £50m should have the team built around him. if chelsea couldn't manage that simple task, why sign torres?
why would a club pay fortunes for the services of a striker and play him in a system that does not suit him. i have proven a point here that many of you troglodytes never knew before. the kinda services torres got @ liverpool that made him a beast is seriously lacking in chelsea.

if chelsea cannot provide that for him, there's no point keeping him.
sell him and buy kevin davis.
useless buncha of oafs!

That said, his all-round game was lively today and hopefully he is showing signs of revival

bluediva and dayokanu disagrees with this point.
torres did not score so he had a poor game(by their archaic logic).

chamotex:
Only 6 I think

unbelievable, jeff!
unbelievable.

debosky:
And your pea brain is unable to comprehend that Torres is at fault? Not making the runs and not being in the position to receive the balls? Or miscontrolling the balls like he is now wont to do?

you are a tool!
miscontrols the ball? how? he can only miscontrol when the delivery is rubbish.

How come Sturridge is being played one on one with the GK? Numerous times per game even?

sturridge? the player who shoots even at difficult angles when there are better options on the pitch?
if torres possesses the sub-par football intelligence of sturridge, he would have scored a dozen - but his high intelligence quotient tells him to find a better positioned teammate instead of trying to score by all means.

You are too dim for words.
When 4 players are presented with an equivalent task of tapping in and fail, the biggest failure is the £50m player who is paid specifically to score goals.

torres still had to beat de gea who came rushing out.
ramirez, lampard, etc just needed to tap into an empty net.

debosky:
Why is Torres not getting scoring all those balls with the last defender that Sturridge has been scoring? Or is Sturridge dribbling 100 players to score?
Torres is a failure pure and simple - there is no way you can twist or turn to get out of that.

apart from the united game, show me a game where torres has been put through one v one with a goalie.
i have watched all the highlights of chelsea games since then, i cannot find one of those. just one.

as per torres being a failure pure n simple - you repeated the same ish until berbatov scored 20 premier league goals without a penalty kick last season to shut you up. when torres is played to his strengths, i shall dig out this comment to further expose your idiocy. any player can be made redundant if played out of position. if a club acquires a player for £50m, one would expect such club to build the team around him. i see none of that in chelsea.

see the difference in the delivery torres gets. see 50 yard passes that quickly isolated him with the last defender in liverpool.
see the dross lampard supplies him at chelsea for comparison. see dirk kuyt doing a winger's job to accommodate torres at liverpool - compare to sturridge who shoots at sight and hardly plays his striker into the game.

debosky, God has blessed you with brain-cells but you have refused to put it to use.
i am sure you shall be asked on the judgement day to give an account how you have used your brain.
on the evidence of what i have seen so far, you have abused your mental coordination.

Is Sturridge or Lampard a No 9 who cost $50m? You are a mor0n of epic proportions. Only an major idiiot like you will compare Ramires to Torres. It's like Comparing Tiote to Demba Ba in terms of chance conversion.

so tapping into an empty net requires one to be bought for £50m before the task can be completed?
jeeeez, you should donate your brain-cells to oxfam.

you are a mongolian swine!

nateevs:
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Please educate your selves and check out how Torres scored all those goals for Liverpool.
A quick check will inform even the dumb that Torres is a class act and needs a particular way to perform.
70% of the goals come from balls over the last defender. And through balls from a distance.
Hardly do you see him score a goal with a box jam packed with defenders. Exactly how Chelsea expect Torres to score.

Other goals he scored from a cross to his head. There cannot be more a handful of crosses to Torres' head.
We don't even have a player who can cross a freaking ball. . .

Is this even difficult to see?

nateevs, i go vex for you o.
i wanted to post that youtube clip after i must have finished fing[i]e[/i]ring the brain cells of dayo and debosky and now you beat me to it.
it was meant to be their checkmate!

if any manager watches that clip and refuses not to play torres the same way, then he's either plain silly or born feet first.
villas-boas should either sell torres or play him like benitez did. i thought chelsea wanted to adopt benitez's method when they splashed £50m on el-nino.

i thought wrong.
i saw 08/09 premier league years on skysports last week and i concluded torres has been massively mismanaged at chelsea.
he plays for the wrong team. he was a super beast for liverpool.

chamotex:
. . . In other words, Fulham were better on the day.

how many league games have arsenal lost this season now?

debosky:
@ DK

The way he was isolated with De Gea at OT and missed the chance like a Arrow.

Let's face it - Sharon is a phat demented phool with his head stuck up Torres' Latino arse.

you are a tool. . . .
the one he scored from was one on one with the same de gea. . . .the finish was exquisite!

before the torres miss, count the number of other chances other players missed in the same match.
ramirez missed from open net, sturridge, lampard, etc but those examples wouldn't give you tools the er[i]e[/i]ctions needed to penetrate your spouses.

i am sure debosky/dayokanu has torres' pics on their laptops.
a day would not pass by without passing comments on the ladyboy! buncha oafs!

jay bee:
Rent is subsidised for the poorest in the UK

like 90% subsidy.
people on housing benefits pay how much per month of their rent?

if the monthly rent is £600, the government is paying £530 per month for the poor folks.

dayokanu:
Messi at least performs for club

Torres fails at club, fails at NT.

First it was play mata behind Torres, Get him technical players , but when they get him technical players in Spain, still same story the excuse changes to they dont play to his strenght, the build up is too slow

What is the next excuse now?

They play on green grass?

you are just trying to be thick.

if people can complain chelsea's build up is too slow for torres and then you bring up spain as an example, then your brain needs biodegradable fuel to function.
spain is even slower than chelsea.

i will continue to say it. torres joined the wrong club.
his services would have been more appreciated in man utd and tottenham. 2 teams who play full-throttle with pacy wingers and players with good vision.

can't imagine bale, lennon and modric supplying crisp passes to torres.
he would be leading the scorer's charts.

debosky:
So the issue is not playing Mata behind Torres as you said was simple - you are a deluded nincompoop to backtrack on that comment now.

how is the issue not playing playing mata behind torres? are you such an oaf ?
who is mata playing tiki taka with @ chelsea? cheiiiii, this boy is a simpleton!

the issue is playing mata behind torres.
in spain, mata, xavi, iniesta, villa and busquets are tiki-taka mates. . . .they play that to the t and it works for them.

in chelsea, mata is on his own and his vision makes him thread early through-balls.
his passing statistics also suggests he rarely misuses the ball and he's being wasted as a winger.

Torres needs to play one on one with the GK is complete and utter nonsense - his best goals do not arise from such moves.

google his goals @ liverpool and come back to me.
see the pace at which gerrard launches the ball at torres. dirk kuyt had to be converted to a winger to accommodate torres and yet you blind tools expect him to do the same ish @ chelsea without the support.

debosky:
If playing Mata behind Torres is the problem, how come Torres is not performing for Spain with the likes of Fab and Xavi behind him?

this question has been answered many times, you tools.

first, the spanish team isn't built around torres. . . .

secondly, tiki-taka will never put torres through one v one with a goalkeeper. spain is even slower than chelsea with the transition of the ball.
what they do better than chelsea is to keep possession and deny the opponents the ball. they pass and pass and pass and pass till their opponents can't be bothered to mark and they score from 6 yards.

does that play to torres strengths? jeeeez, have i been arguing with troglodytes?
spain is the worst example to bring on here.
they are the most boring team to watch with 3800 passes they cop per game.

dayokanu:
Even a clueless player gets it right for once. Even Santa Cruz looked like Pele in his first season at Blackburn.

so torres got it once when he scored 18 goals in 22 apps for liverpool?

How many games did Torres start and how many did Villa Start
Thankfully they played the same opposition with the same support yet Torres failed as usual

but without torres' goal, germany would have beaten spain in a penalty shoot-out.
yes, he failed as usual but made the team of the tournament after sodomizing lahm.

dayokanu:
How many teams did he rip apart in 2008? Even despite Villas injury he still outscored Torres.

germany was one of them at least. it was fun watching him sodomize lahm(the best defender in germany).
villa outscored him? the benefit of scoring a hatrick in one game. villa scored 4 goals in 2 different matches.

torres scored 2 goals in 2 different matches. it's not like villa was finding the back of the net in every game he played in that tournament.
oleg salenko scored 5 goals in a game in usa 94. . . . he won the golden boot as a result of that luck against a pathetic cameroon side.

BlueDiva:
A world class player doesn't rely on others to flourish.
Mata was brought in to assist this dud and yet he refuses to fly.

i wonder what would have become of ronaldo without world class players around him in man utd? or @ madrid?
play ronaldo in blackburn fc. . . .i am sure he would score 42 goals a season @ ewood park, won't he?

Maybe we should bring in Fab just to help him.

mata!

It's a shame you people even use this as a defence.
Why not just say he is homesick or something? That sounds better.

it's a disgrace that benitez who i think is mediocre knew how to deploy torres better than ancelotti/villas-boas.