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[quote author=BABE! link=topic=809995.msg9910000#msg9910000 date=1325879229]Paris caught my eye. I'll be there around Mid. Feb. for a "business" trip. You can holla if you're going with Paris.  [/quote]abu dhabi, abeg!
paris don stale. . . . . .go and get your burqa.

Kobojunkie:
Interesting . . . so if a mad woman tells you it is well, you will state for sure that it well? Is that how you analyze these things? I asked you some straight up questions on this. Any idea when you will answer the questions asked? Or am I to assume this is another turn around the wheel?

except that married women in nigeria who have all come to terms with their husband's infidelity are not mad.
many of them are working professionals and some of them even head conglomerates.

unless you are telling me the late simbiat abiola or maryam babangida are all mad, then you are pissing in the wiond.

I think you are desperately trying to pretend you argue this sensibly and so you do not even see the confusion you weave there.

which confusion?

A : woman marries a man knowing from the beginning he is likely going to marry other wives, and is OK with it.

B: woman marries a man who she believes is in the relationship with just her, only to watch him, months/years later, engage in adulterous affair(s) and then marry these women/other wives, expecting that she will have to live with the new reality

Just so I am sure, are you somehow suggesting that A above = B?

a and b are the same. . . . . it depends on the circumstances. no woman can know for sure what the future holds.
so telling me a woman knows from the beginning her hubby is [b]likely [/b]to marry other wives is shooting in the dark.
what is the meaning of "likely"?

abraham never knew he would father a child with another woman when he married sarah. that's life for you. it can throw a curve ball.
you can start interviewing all the women in polygamous homes in nigeria. a large proportion of them would tell you 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 5th wife were not in the plans initially. some men marry 2nd wives because they are looking for a son or a daughter or whatever reason they can come up with.

Kobojunkie:
So because emotionally abused women say things like "as long as he doesn't bring them to our matrimonial home, it is well!" means all is really well? Did you even think this through even as you typed??

if she says it is well, who are you to say she's unwell?
how do people debate like this?

How can you describe the act of adultery as RESPECTFUL in any form? I mean what if this "some form of respect" you speak of? He respects her as long as the emotional abuse is not done directly in her presence? I don't get whatever you are trying to spew above really.

discuss polygamy - apply the concept of polygamy to this nigerian women.
at least, the husband must have kept a form of relationship with the mistress before he brought her home as a 2nd wife.

are you now saying all first wives have been emotionally abused or whatever word in the dictionary that depicts what you meant?
this mentality is crass.

When a person LIES AND DECIEVES you,even hurts you, causing you emotional harm,  do you . . . . can you in any way or form still conclude that the action is done out of "some form of respect"?

i think that depends on what the society accepts.
you know this now because you have copped some western education. if you were born into hausa family with little or no education and you were taken to one alhaji at the age of 9 as the 13th wife, would you say you have not been respected? who is to say what is right or what is wrong?

It is obvious that many in this generation have been mind-fked into believing some of the worst is what we deserve and should be OK with, but come on, we also happen to be the most educated and hence better able to cut through all the bull society and our illiterate parents fed us.

you have been poisoned by the west!

dayokanu:
Who is more likely to stay with a cheating spouse, a richer woman or a dependent wife?

in nigeria, both would stay!
as long as the husband is not physically abusive. . . .i.e. he still shows some form of "respect" with his adultery(he doesn't make it overly obvious), then all is well.
i have heard of married women saying "as long as he doesn't bring them to our matrimonial home, it is well!"

The richer wife would only stay if she wants to. but the dependent one, by the time she thinks of what to eat tomorrow, she would just overlook it.

she can always go back to her family if what she would "eat" is that important.
an average married woman has more "respect" in nigeria than a rich single mother. . . . .the woman who's living from hand to mouth would even insult the rich woman and attach all form of metaphysical excuses for her single-hood. a single woman in nigeria today is still an outcast(lagos and abuja aside).

I am not saying the societal outlook to it is not a factor but look at societies where women are made dependent and see the abuse going on there. Look at other African countries and especially Arab nations and see what the women go through there.

the laws and the courts of those countries where women are made dependent is much more a bigger factor than the "dependence" of the woman.
if the western countries are all about "independent woman" without putting the men in jail for every atrocity, then it would have been different. do you think it would be the same in nigeria if the government there puts men in jail every time they abuse their women? would it be the same thing if men are escorted out of their own homes by the police whenever they fight with their wives - regardless of the woman's financial status?

mr dayo, it has little to do with a woman's financial status.

[quote author=Omo_Tier1 link=topic=838546.msg9908534#msg9908534 date=1325866293]Your analogy is misplaced! If Lagos had a super power mega city status, with influencial economic powers, you would expect that would happen!  Read the posters carried by the protesters in London, you would find out that the protest is against everything wrong with GEJ's government, insecurity in the nation, massive corruption, and graft in government.[/quote]except that london cannot influence the subsidy removal even if 50 million nigerians turn out there everyday.
this is why i said the priority is misplaced. nigerians are protesting what the british government can do nothing about.
cameron and his cronies are powerless to influence jonathan to restore the subsidy.

[quote author=Omo_Tier1 link=topic=838546.msg9908380#msg9908380 date=1325865321]FYI, no protest held in london that doesn't get reported to Westminister! The london assembly also will get notice of the protest.[/quote]which they cannot do anything about. . . . .this is why i said the venue chosen to do the protests sickens me.

this is akin to americans protesting the gay marriage bill @ the senate house in abuja.

Of course people standing out there would come from ALL the cities in the UK to protest at the BHC in london. If you read my post clearly, I do not think you would have made the comment in your first post. REPEAT: If Nigerians were going on the streets in Bristol, Glasgow, Cardiff, or NewCastle to protest, then you would call that madness! But they are protesting in London at the Nigerian High Commission, which in international diplomacy and law is considered as the seat of power of the Nigerian government and is a symbol of Nigeria soverignity! It's same as Nigerians protesting in Nigeria! But more realistically, we are sending waves and waves of support to our people back home, telling them we too condemn this babaric policy and the manner in which it was brought to be to cause pain and hardship on Nigerians. You do not experiment with the lives of Nigerians, that is what this government is doing. Testing the waters and receeding when the waves are high enough to swallow her!,

i would rather protest where i would be heard and where i would expect some reaction from my audience.
in this case, nigerians would be heard and by tomorrow, the brits would have forgotten what happened as they are powerless against it.
this is not a fight against human rights. . . . .i would rather they are protesting against government's nonchalance to boko haram killing christians than the subsidy removal rubbish.

[quote author=Omo_Tier1 link=topic=838546.msg9908159#msg9908159 date=1325863642]FYI,  This protest goes beyond subsidy removal! Your points would have been valid if Nigerians in Glasgow, Bristol, Manchester, Newcastle or Liverpool were protesting on the streets there. But nope they aint, rather the protest is taking place in NIGERIA! If you do not know, the NHC in London is the Nigeria in London and a protest there is equally a protest held in Nigeria. We are showing support with our brother, sisters, fathers, Mothers, siblings back home! The images coming out from London is giving more inspiration to those back home.[/quote]there's only one nigerian high commission in the uk. so how do we know for sure the people standing out there protesting didn't come from the cities you listed above? i am not against their idealism. i am against where they have chosen to do the protest. there are ways to show support to the brothers, sisters back home. they can set up a website and air their protests there without constituting a nuisance to the public.

at least, libyans protested because they wanted britain to put pressure on gadaffhi and the brits did exactly that.
what aim is this protest tend to achieve in england? for david cameron to fly nato planes to abuja and remove jonathan or what?
the mentality is crass at best cos it aims to achieve nothing. when[b] sane[/b] people protest, they take it where it would leave a massive impact.

Contrary to the 3 men show people thought this would be, lots of Nigerians in and around london have turned out to send a message to GEJ and His government. Any people oriented government would know that the government credibility is serious being damaged.

nigerian government has lost it's credibility since or before you were born. i don't see how this protest would damage it any further.
there has never been a credibility attached to the nigerian government.

I see you do not know which market I am talking about, hmmmmm

maybe if you are clear and concise about the market, i would know exactly what you are saying.
unlike you, i hate guesses and assumptions. if you have a point to raise, point to it directly instead of running parables.

oradee:
thats why your miserable behind is slaving away in the UK all in the name of i must live abroad.
how many brits live in Nigeria?
thats why they would continue to insult u in more ways than u can imagine.
if u cant see the bigger picture here then your foreign education is a waste of our stolen money,

you are intellectually sterile.
i will also add you are a disgrace to the community college that produced you if you think everyone staying abroad is mentally slaving or poverty stricken like your thought process has indicated.

who is insulting who? i get more insults in nigeria than the well-mannered british folks can ever muster.
keep lying to yourself as if a slave ship docks in apapa tonight, you won't be the first tool to jump into it.
you should chair the committee of mental handicaps, you homoerotic nuisance!

w[quote author=Omo_Tier1 link=topic=838546.msg9908063#msg9908063 date=1325862958]Wrong, they protested to highlight what was going on to the whole world! FYI, Britain only made formal committment after the French sent in their attack fighter jets into Libya![/quote]how can they protest to highlight what was going on to the world when people watch bbc, cnn, etc?
does this make any sense to you? was it this protest that told the world about gadaffhi or people knew gadaffhi before the protest?
whether you admit it or not, the west had a lot to do to what happened in libya. it's not the same as subsidy removal in nigeria.

y'all priorities are misplaced.
what are you going to protest against the next time? environmental sanitation day should be moved to monday?
price of agege bread should be dropped? ladies should wear trousers to church or what?

FYI, these protest in london is mainly targeted at the 'MARKETS',  ,

which markets?

bermuda1:
The protest while in England is directed at the Nigerian High Commission. It is a protest in solidarity with the rest of Nigeria against the actions of the govt of Nigeria.

would have made more sense if what they are protesting against has affected nigerians in diaspora.
people can protest @ the nigerian high commission for the unlawful killing of a nigerian or the unlawful detention of a nigerian citizen. what say does the nigerian high commission have to change the decision of jonathan goodluck?

alj harem:
1. I hope it is not true

2. If true, Northerns MUST STAND UP AGAINST BOKO HARAM

3. THE Fg should send the military there to make sure this Boko haram people are caught !!!!!

wannan shegiya mutane

the federal government should send military men to borno state and raze 5 villages.

bermuda1:
When the rebels in Libya were protesting in Benghazi, the Libyan diaspora was also protesting in London.

Why do Nigerians in the motherland always feel they are better than Nigerians in the Diaspora?

they protested in the uk because britain had a direct influence on what was happening in libya.
nato forces had british soldiers so the protest in england can be justified.

just what has the subsidy removal gotta do with england?
were they the ones who made the decision? the priority is misplaced as far as i am concerned.

nigerians in diaspora should go to nigeria and protest there.

Starbaby1:
He may deserve it and that placard may be ok in nigeria, but this is London, they will use it to insult all of us tomorrow! Is like a family, no matter how foolish you feel your parents are, you'll never insult them in public, in the midst of strangers, in fact you'll defend them. I think using words that shows discontentment is fair, but direct abuse doesn't speak well of Nigerians. We can still pass on the message without that.

britons don't give a damn about the names we call our leaders.
they use worse names to address their leaders.

debosky:
This is unfair to AY - which Utd player has replicated their early season form? Has Rooney done it? Anderson? Jones? Welbeck?

The lad is injured and has been for a while yet you're slating him as being average at best. He may not have been the most pressing need, but he has made a valuable contribution.

The entire team has been thrown off kilter by massive injuries and it's a sheer miracle that y'all have done as well as you have with injuries especially at the back. Go look at the other teams doing relatively well in the league - Tottenham and Citeh have done so with little or no injury concerns so far in the season. Their own time will come this season and that's when you'll see their mettle tested properly.

Even Liverpool's good defensive record is only because their back 5 have played 12 games together in the EPL - how many times have the same back 5 played consecutive games for Utd?

If I were a Utd fan I'd be very relaxed at the moment - the other teams are BOUND to suffer injury problems and fixture congestion for Citeh in particular in January could be the beginning of their downfall.

On the GK front I'd keep DeGea for lower opposition and the Europa League and play AL in league games against the top 10 - that's the way to go.

the most sensible comment in the heap of dross. . . .

united are where they are because of the injuries. the team has been so unstable personnel wise to build on a run.
apportioning blames to a winger who hasn't featured for a while because of injuries is not the reason we lost 2 games on a bounce.
matter of fact, that we are just 2 points below man city after these injuries is a testament to the man-management of the coaching crew.

i would take 3 points off man city in april, never mind early january!
man utd are still equipped to win the title when the crocked ones return back to the team.
i'm proud of my team so far. if any other club suffers what united have been through this season, they would be 10th in the league.

megastu:
a very big shame on those of you who feel protesting against subsidy both home and abroad is a waste of time.
Didnt all of you not run to the UK to stay because NIGERIA was nothing to write home about?
Many of u have rich folks and are living off stolen govt money.
abeg keep your snobbish opinions to your self, if the queen of england and her immediate and extended families with a drop of royal blood were living the way our politicians and co live at the expense of the masses, do u think UK wld be the way it is?
Abeg eh, if u have nothing constructive to say, just sharrap.
after all the world witnesed the riots of some mad brits just cos the govt wanted to increace what and what (despite the fact that they also live on social security)
Keep living in UK and paying for the citizens indirectly.
when Nigeria has a turn around, u wld now begin to deport urselfs back home and start singing ''east or west, home is best'', ndi ara

VERY WELL SAID.

you're a miserable sod!

dayokanu:
This is what makes most Naija women accept infidelity.

I have always said it that the best way to enslave anyone is to make them dependent on you 100% and any woman who accepts to be a housewife in this day and age has just sold herself short

Do you know how many women turn a blind eye on obvious adultery jus because they dont want to lose their meal tickets?

They would be like, If I leave him because of adultery, who would take care of me. Why would a full bodied adult depend on another human to take care of him or her?

Any human who takes care of you reserves the right to do as he/she pleases

it's far deeper than what you have stated above.
there are plenty of women richer than their husbands and still accept infidelity from their husband.

the simple truth is women want to stay in their marriage.
in a society like nigeria, women in marriage command more respect than single mothers so most of them would endure any hardship in marriage than going for a divorce.

Ibime:
Interesting subject. . . this is one of the issues that brings up beef with my fiance at-times, as I ask her to wear her hair natural or permed. . . but no weaves or extensions.

The dilemma is two-fold. . . black men (I speak for myself) do not like weaves, but also do not like short nappy hair (except the woman has the look to pull it off).

The comfortable medium lies somewhere inbetween such as the Lauryn Hill (twist) style, seventies afro, braid and afro, twisted blow-out etc etc.

I think there are many styles women can play with before resorting to weaves and extensions. . . . and even if you're hair is 3 inches long, there are some nice mohican-style cuts I see some girls rocking these days.

personally, i prefer a very low cut for a woman or something like baby curls.
if she cannot do that, she should plait it the traditional way.

all those weaves, dirty attachments and coloured braids are hideous to my eyeballs.
some black women look like depraved vampires in them.

Goldieluks:
Old Coogar happy New Year.

old goldieluks, same to you!

[quote author=BABE! link=topic=809995.msg9900431#msg9900431 date=1325768700]Back to Coogar and BABE!

----Coogar, any plans for Feb. 14th? Whatchu doing? [/quote]i have got big plans for that.
thinking either paris or abu dhabi.

what are your plans?

Official Line Up:
------------------------ Lindegaard -------------------------

Valencia ------- Jones ------------ Ferdinand ---------- Evra

Nani ----------- Carrick ----------- Giggs -------------- Park

---------------- Berbatov -------- Rooney ------------------


United bench: De Gea, Anderson, Hernandez, Welbeck, Rafael, Pogba

this looks more like it.

mukina2:
http://www.channelstv.com/global/live_video.php

From 8pm to 9pm

who are the debaters?
nigerians are funny!

[quote author=Omo_Tier1 link=topic=838546.msg9894860#msg9894860 date=1325694058]Somehow, it is weird that  folks can't understand how protesting in an economic power block can have an effect back home  in this day and age!

I guess they do not live in London and if they do, they would have seen several protest in and around T-square, Westminister, etc by nationals of different countries.

I have posted already, if you are an illegal immigrant from Nigeria, do not bother to come protesting 'cos u'r part of the bad egg the protest will be targetting.

Let me tell you, the effort of Libyaians in the UK helped during their self cleansing of Gaddafi.

This protest is a solidarity match with our brothers and sisters backhome. FYI,most of us are regular visitors to Nigeria and our family, business, friends and colleagues are resident there and this obnoxious policy of the despotic President affect us here as it does affect them back home.[/quote]how did the protest to give amnesty to illegal migrants in the uk fare even with the backing of boris johnson?
it's a waste of time and resources. united kingdom would support the removal of the subsidy like it's done in most countries.
what nigeria should be protesting is the increment of the minimum wage not subsidy removal.

i wish y'all good luck. i would stay glued to bbc to see if i can spot nairalanders holding placards @ the big ben.

rokiatu:
Crazy folks.
Yea three months.


Nah, my parents ain't forcing no man on me, just an observation thats all.

nice observation but these parents also married at a younger age so they expect you to do the same.
i accept there time was a bit different but then people shouldn't use that excuse to nurture irresponsibility.
someone like you is ripe for marriage. get a man and hitch up.

sandysprax:
This is the age of Information Technology Doh!, there is no difference protesting at home or from another continent cos the media houses are going to air it and its going to circulate on the internet.I am going to be there live!

this is where the mentality is different.
do you think americans in nigeria would protest on the streets over a policy they are not happy about?

Pilotman:
The fuel subsidy removal is not a bad thing! It will be difficult at the beginning, I know, but, it's a great move. It is a great sacrifice for the betterment of our great Country tomorrow!

Our only concern now should be on the wise usage of the subsidy fund. The next thing we should talk about is the palliative measures to cushion the weight of the hike in the price of fuel.

Retrospectively, Who could have believed that a poor man could own a cell phone in Nigeria? Please, let us take it easy, it is for good,

Most of our neigbours are not on fuel subsidy. In Ghana for instance, fuel goes for about N184 (Converted), & they are surviving & making meaningful progress. Subsidy removal is not a crime but a way forward.

God bless Nigeria,

this is a very good observation.
the subsidy removal in itself is not such a bad thing if the government can equally increase the minimum wage to about 60-80,000 naira.
maybe nigerians should stop protesting about the removal and protest to get the minumum wage quadrupled.

nigerians should fight for the increase of minimum wage.

[quote author=BABE! link=topic=838546.msg9894250#msg9894250 date=1325689108]Oga, it's because you have a JOB; an important job. [/quote]i love my job.

bombay:
Opportunity to deport alot of you guys that will go there lol if you no get pally no near there me personally will point you out.
Illegal no near there i don warn u no be joke o 

spoken like a true illegal immigrant!

[quote author=BABE! link=topic=838758.msg9894355#msg9894355 date=1325689871]What exactly is your headache? Are your folks forcing a man on you?  [/quote]she's probably on a wind-up.
i just checked her profile and i can see she's already pregnant.

jennykadry:
I came to ya house but was told you are in Naija. You should have seen the nightie I bought just for you

cheiiii!
since i didn't see the christmas turkey you promised, i travelled home-town to attack village goats.
they taste better.

are you still around?
i am kinda curious to see this nightie?
is it cotton or chiffon?

jennykadry:
Coogar is still alive . Happy new year darling

happy new year, jenny.
thanks for forgetting to send my christmas turkey.

rokiatu:
I mean I don't get it, as soon as you hit 20, infact in some villages in Africa, as soon as you hit 15, family members get on your back for you to get marry.

Is marriage everything in life? Is marriage the secret to happiness or what? If not, why is there a huge pressure on girls to married? Especially in our African communities.

Some parents do not even care whether you've found someone you love, all they care about is you getting marry and giving them grand kids.

Well infact there not many successful marriages out there, so why is marriage so overrated?  

go and get married my friend. stop complaining.

BlueDiva:
Who has stolen coogar's heart?
You're showing too much emotions these days.

mukina2!

[quote author=Omo_Tier1 link=topic=838546.msg9893325#msg9893325 date=1325680130]Let me clear up so misconception being peddled by som ignorant folks here.
1. British police are not Police in Holland, they are not empowered to search anyone for papers in the public unless you are arrested for an offence, in which case, officers from the UKBA/HO will be called in.- Beside if you are an illegal immigrant in Britain, then you are part of the reasons why the protest is holding.

2. Never in the history of the Met Police, have record of protesters being arrested for immigration papers.

3. Shesi, Met Police are not Nigeria Police, they do not 'beat' and have top notch policing skills and are properly trained to monitor protest by various groups. FYI, this is not the first time Nigerians will be protesting in London. We have done it before, we have a very good record with the Lonon Met, hence the reason we have been granted this permit without much struggle.

To all, if you are free, or you can book time off work or those of you that your resumption date at work is next week, why not come out and support our fellow Nigerians back home, join the protest in London. It will be peaceful as usual and you will find other Nationalities supporting on that day. There many people out here that love Nigeria so much and care about what goes on there.[/quote]but i still don't see how this makes sense.
david cameron did not remove the subsidy for feck sake - i really don't see how i can be motivated to take time off work to protest the subsidy removal rubbish!
i am sure ukba are grinning sheepishly with this development. it would be a perfect fishing pond to smoke out the "removables".

BlueDiva:
Who talked about English player?
English players are worthless anyways.

Wouldn't offer 20mill for Rooney.

bluediva, come back to dublin.
we miss you.

debosky:
Is Lucas Moura English?

Senile scavenger.

who is talking about lucas moura, you homoerotic nuisance?

BlueDiva:
35mill is too much for just one player right now except you are CR7 or Messi.
When will Chelsea learn? I'm sure it's all rumour though.

english player and you think £35m is too much?
you must have been living in another planet.