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deandavid:it cannot hurt them because they weren't the ones sold to slavery like animals, chained, whipped, rap[i]e[/i]d, beaten and murdered for 500 yrs. lik fifa president ritely said thr cnt b racism on d pitch,nd dat is d truth.pple jst misunderstood him,especially d english media.dis age has seen tremendious contributions of the black race,even in the world of football,the black race have taken a high position.we all know dis but y will an insult degradin your color pain u,if u dnt have a problem with being inferior.i tears 4 black ppleyou shed tears for black people cos you are an ignoramus! that particular n-word is double-edged. 2 black people can say it to each other and it won't be seen as an insult. however, if the context by which the word is used is from a white man to a black man in a non-friendly conversation then it's an insult. this word was the same word used by slave-owners back then to classify black people. a white guy saying that to a black man is technically calling him a slave/inferior. .like sumbody asked evra,now dat d fa has given suarez d bans,does dat make u less black? D more we see d word negro as insultin d more u get being abused.mark my wordshe doesn't make him less black but he got justice! it's not really about his colour but the fact that one race is not superior to the next! |
chamotex:his ban is not immediate. . . . . he might not start it until february. liverpool would wait until the 13th day before they appeal the ban. then they would go into an appeal court and spend another 3-4 weeks deliberating if he's guilty or not. i can assume you are safe cos by then your 2nd wild card should be available to be used. |
this boy will certainly grow up to be an alcoholic. moremi2008:and when they have complications in the labour room they blame it on their father's mother's grandmother who is a "winch for jesus" |
fred2265:suarez issue happened long before the john terry incident, no? |
[quote author=Mr_TA link=topic=829483.msg9811428#msg9811428 date=1324487400]I didnt think it was Anton who reported JT to the police, I read the police only got involved because it was reported them by a member of the public.[/quote]racism is a huge issue in england. . . . .they don't joke with it as it could incite riots. i have been told evra can still go to the police now that suarez has admitted he actually used the n-word. |
Dere I:insatiable? $5,000 to be a drug-mule?? |
newdeal:except that you're wrong and mr t-a is right. evra did not accuse steve finnan. the accusation was levelled at finnan by a deaf fan who claimed he lip-read the racial slur. evra declined to complain. newdeal:once again, you are wrong here. . . . evra did not accuse any chelsea official of racism. in fact, it was mike phelan and richard hartis(united's coaching staff) who claimed they heard the abuse. the fa report: “The two witnesses who say they heard those words directed by Mr Bethell at Mr Evra are the Manchester United first team coach Mr Mike Phelan and the goalkeeping coach Mr Richard Hartis. Even if we disregard the fact that Mr Evra has never claimed to have heard such a remark on that day, it is notable that there were several other people far nearer to Mr Bethell at the critical point in time than were either Mr Phelan or Mr Hartis." newdeal, if i were you, i'd apologize to mr ta for being an utter twit throughout the discourse. ![]() |
StarBoard:of course, they would have relied on video evidence - the same video evidence that is looping an axe over john terry's head at the moment. suarez admitted because he knew the allegations would convict him so he quickly said negrito isn't an offensive word where he came from. what about acting like a roman when you are in rome. so because i can pull down my pants on the streets in nigeria and shyte means it's acceptable anywhere else in the world? suarez's lawyers are tools! there's video evidence and there are lip-readers. racism isn't a small issue in england. evra can still take the matter up with the police and suarez might even face jail-term. if someone used the same word against me on the streets - he would go to prison. football players are not different. the law is the law. |
afrodoc:i refuse to believe what you spewed above. as at 2005, mikel obi was a cesc fabregas. had nigeria won that wyc competition, mikel would have been the best player of that tournament playing as a creative midfielder. you mean all those skills disappeared overnight? mikel obi played in the nations cup tournament that followed that competition and he wasn't bad at all. i think he got 2 goal assists or something. chelsea ruined mikel obi. he doesnt have song's pace,acceleration,athleticism or ability to run with d ball, its not just abt wenger instructing d player to roam or stay,d player must hv d qualities to accomplish d task.of course, he does. he plays as instructed. chelsea were looking for the new claude makelele and since mikel would not displace ballack, lampard, essien, etc in the creative positions, he had to settle as a water-carrier for a star-studded chelsea squad. going to chelsea was a wrong career move but i don't blame mikel, his agent or his dad. he's nigerian after all and money speaketh! when hv u ever seen mikel rily "roam" as u call it? he has not successfully roamed for nigeria even when he had kaita or etuhu or ayila playing behind himdoes paul scholes run with the ball? have you ever seen scholes running with the ball. it's all about precision passes. can zidane run with the ball? abeg- you are beginning to shift positions - the crux of the matter is simple. mikel obi started as an attacking midfielder playing behind strikers. he was only second to lionel messi in that tournament. pundits couldn't separate the 2 of them until that final when messi scored from 2 cheap penalty decisions. infact d only time u can say he played dis roaming pacy style was in finland 2003! as he got older,he got bigger n slower and he is now as statuesque as jupiter's rooster, hence where he is now sharing face time wit an upstart like romeu.it's the way his manager wants him to play. when would people get this simple fact in their skullz? how many times did mikel obi play when chelsea won their last league title in 2010? have you ever heard his manager talking about his insipid football or slow pace? carrick scored a goal for man utd over the weekend. . . . .sir alex ferguson said this about him. . . Carrick is supposed to sit in the middle of the pitch, I maybe have to fine him for not playing to instruction. so when people compare alex song who wenger has given the license to vacate his position and join the attack to carrick/mikel(who have been instructed to sit) then the argument becomes redundant. we can as well compare makelele to iniesta! |
StarBoard:no evidence was used because suarez agreed he used the derogatory term. once he pleaded guilty to that, the f-a didn't need to scoop out any evidence. evra felt aggrieved he was called a negrito but suarez is using language barrier as the key. for bleeps' sake, suarez has spent several years in europe to know what is tolerated and what isn't? besides that, it really depends on the context it was used. on the day in question, suarez used that word to provoke evra or to wind him up so it cannot be said he was being friendly with evra. the correct decision in my own opinion. |
[quote author=Mr_TA link=topic=829483.msg9810089#msg9810089 date=1324474465]He accused a Chelsea official of what?[/quote]yes, united did. . . . .but the offence couldn't be proven in court and the matter was dropped. evra got banned for 5 games for his violent behaviour. in the suarez case, he tied himself when he agreed he used the word "negrito" on evra - he claimed it's an endearment in south america. it does not matter what it means in nigeria - it's how it's perceived by the offended. so suarez was always going to go down. liverpool and kenny dalglish are the biggest Joysticks in this issue with the way they have blindly supported suarez. it means they support racism and i hope the f-a throw a book at the lots. they put the most spastic statement on their website barking and biting when the accused already admitted he used the n word. |
Dere I:with boobs like yours, you need no interview. just submit your c-v with a picture of yours - bingo! |
idupaul:i hope she gets 15 yrs in holloway prison. what a scum! |
ak47mann:if they enjoy these facilities and they still look this hideous then heaven help them when they get deported back to their villages. ![]() |
Kunbee:horribly cheap. hard to believe they are all based in america - looks like a party in south sudan refugee camp! |
Emperoh:he should have gotten more. i was hoping he would get 24 league games. racism at any level should not be condoned! |
Luiz Suarez Banned For 8 Matches https://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Football/Clubs/Club_Home/2011/12/16/1324027983760/Luis-Suarez-and-Patrice-E-007.jpg The Liverpool striker Luis Suárez has been banned for eight matches and fined £40,000 after being found guilty of misconduct, regarding "using insulting words towards" Patrice Evra of Manchester United. The allegations centred around an incident during a Premier League fixture between Liverpool and Manchester United at Anfield on 15 October, during which Evra claimed Suárez racially abused him "at least 10 times". Both players gave evidence to a three-man panel, led by Paul Goulding QC, as did the Liverpool manager, Kenny Dalglish, who has vigorously defended the Uruguay player since the allegation was made by Evra to the French television station Canal Plus after the game. Liverpool's defence involved arguing that the word "negro" does not necessarily have racist connotations in Uruguay. Evra said that was unacceptable and that Suárez was being offensive as the pair clashed repeatedly in the second half at Anfield. A Football Association statement said: "An independent regulatory commission has today found a charge of misconduct against Luis Suárez proven, and have issued a suspension for a period of eight matches as well as fining him £40,000, pending appeal. "On 16 November 2011, the Football Association charged Luis Suárez with misconduct contrary to FA Rule E3 in relation to the Liverpool FC versus Manchester United FC fixture on 15 October 2011. "A hearing took place from 14-20 December 2011 before an independent regulatory commission of the FA to consider the charge. "The independent regulatory commission announced its decision on 20 December 2011, which is as follows: "Mr Suárez used insulting words towards Mr Evra during the match contrary to FA Rule E3(1); "the insulting words used by Mr Suárez included a reference to Mr Evra's colour within the meaning of Rule E3(2); "Mr Suárez shall be warned as to his future conduct, be suspended for eight matches covering all first-team competitive matches and fined the sum of £40,000; "the [penalty] is suspended pending the outcome of any appeal lodged by Mr Suárez against this decision. "The independent regulatory commission will provide written reasons for its decision in due course setting out: (a) the findings of fact made by it; (b) the reasons for its decision finding the charge proved; and (c) the reasons for the penalty. "Mr Suárez has the right to appeal the decision of the independent regulatory commission to an appeal board. An appeal must be lodged within 14 days of the date of the written reasons for the decision. "The penalty is suspended until after the outcome of any appeal, or the time for appealing expires, or should Mr Suárez decide not to appeal. The reason for this is to ensure that the penalty does not take effect before any appeal so that Mr Suárez has an effective right of appeal. Liverpool released a statement of their own, saying: "Liverpool Football Club is very surprised and disappointed with the decision of the Football Association commission to find Luis Suárez guilty of the charges against him. "We look forward to the publication of the commission's judgment. We will study the detailed reasons of the commission once they become available, but reserve our right to appeal or take any other course of action we feel appropriate with regards to this situation. "We find it extraordinary that Luis can be found guilty on the word of Patrice Evra alone when no one else on the field of play – including Evra's own Manchester United team-mates and all the match officials – heard the alleged conversation between the two players in a crowded Kop goalmouth while a corner-kick was about to be taken. "The club takes extremely seriously the fight against all forms of discrimination and has a long and successful track record in work relating to anti-racist activity and social inclusion. We remain committed to this ideal and equality for all, irrespective of a person's background. "LFC considers racism in any form to be unacceptable – without compromise. It is our strong held belief, having gone over the facts of the case, that Luis Suárez did not commit any racist act. It is also our opinion that the accusation by this particular player was not credible – certainly no more credible than his prior unfounded accusations. "It is key to note that Patrice Evra himself in his written statement in this case said: 'I don't think that Luis Suárez is racist'. The FA in their opening remarks accepted that Luis Suárez was not racist. "Luis himself is of a mixed race family background as his grandfather was black. He has been personally involved since the 2010 World Cup in a charitable project which uses sport to encourage solidarity amongst people of different backgrounds with the central theme that the colour of a person's skin does not matter; they can all play together as a team. "He has played with black players and mixed with their families whilst with the Uruguay national side and was captain at Ajax Amsterdam of a team with a proud multicultural profile, many of whom became good friends. "It seems incredible to us that a player of mixed heritage should be accused and found guilty in the way he has based on the evidence presented. We do not recognise the way in which Luis Suárez has been characterised. "It appears to us that the FA were determined to bring charges against Luis Suárez, even before interviewing him at the beginning of November. Nothing we have heard in the course of the hearing has changed our view that Luis Suárez is innocent of the charges brought against him and we will provide Luis with whatever support he now needs to clear his name. "We would also like to know when the FA intend to charge Patrice Evra with making abusive remarks to an opponent after he admitted himself in his evidence to insulting Luis Suárez in Spanish in the most objectionable of terms. Luis, to his credit, actually told the FA he had not heard the insult." |
[quote author=Mr_TA link=topic=716327.msg9802106#msg9802106 date=1324374300]This is brilliant! http://aggbot.com/Manchester-United-News/article/15690912 [/quote]it serves fergie right. . . . . .he mocked the opposition before the quiz even started.'We've got a club quiz in early December and Ryan Giggs is frantically trying to recruit the two brightest brains in the squad — Dr Steve McNally and assistant head physio Neil Hough — to go up against me. 'We did one on MUTV last year against Giggsy, Gary Neville and Michael Carrick. They were hopeless! 'This year Giggs has roped Jonny Evans and Wayne Rooney into it. Can you believe that? Come on, we want some competition! 'To be fair, Jonny Evans is a bright lad. He got something like 10 GCSEs, so we'll have to keep an eye on him.' |
1025:http://www.zonalmarking.net/2010/02/08/when-will-john-obi-mikel-get-the-credit-he-deserves/ |
dayokanu:that's the problem with your common sense. . . .it's always missing when required. ![]() so where would smalling, da silva brothers, valencia and cleverley fit into this your strong man utd team? are you aware fabio and valencia started the last champions league final? united have a complex squad. . . .you cannot compare to bayern munich. this is why united have won the most champions league games since 92/93 season. they have won more games in elite europe than any other club in europe. |
dayokanu:lahm is a full-back, you slowpoke, . . . .not a centre back. How can a line up missing Lahm = No defender missing?he is no centre-back. he is no vidic/rio. Has Evra ever been awarded anything individually? What does it take to be part of a team? Wasnt Wes Brown and Oshea part of the same CL finalist? We can then see their quality in Sunderlandevra has won the champions league and has played in 4 finals. lahm has never won anything continentally in his f@cked up career. go figure! You probably ate the wrong apple. Cos how can someone be comparing a player like Lahm for a much inferior Evraevra = champions league medal lahm = nothing. phillip lahm has never won anything continentally for club or country - what a shame!!! ![]() tell me what lahm has won that evra hasn't ![]() Victor valdes has played how many CL finals? Does he compare in quality to Buffon who played only one?valdes has won more medals than buffon. buffon has no quality any more. . . .it's like comparing del piero to messi. You see that regarding European football you would always be a neophytecoming from a man who said a striker cannot be a false 9? ![]() dayo, had idiocy been a felonious crime, you would have gotten a death encyclopedia. . . .forget death sentence. there's nothing in that your head - but viscous s[i]e[/i]men. ![]() |
dayokanu:in the first game of the group(benfica @ portugal). . . no de gea, rio, vidic, valencia, young, anderson, berbatov, cleverley. . . . . . .(nani, hernandez and jones did not even start) in the 2nd game(basel @ old trafford) there were no vidic, cleverley, fabio/rafael, smalling, anderson, rooney, hernandez(nani, berbatov, js park did not start). throughout the group, there was no single game fergie played his strongest possible team like bayern munich n co. |
dayokanu:you are the brainless Arrow here. no amount of texts can cover your idiocy. only lahm was missing in the bayern munich defence and your equivalent in the united team was vidic, rio and evra? han han - did you skip qualitative analysis classes in your primary school? how can lahm equate 3 top defenders? Well Lahm was named one of the best full back at the last 2 World cups and at the last Euro cupunfortunately for your daft analogy, this is the champions league - not a national team competition. we are talking about champions league - a club competition lahm has never won in comparison to evra - who has graced 4 finals in his career. So in the last 3 major tournament Lahm was the best. Whereas Evra led the worst and most disgraceful French team in football historylike i have said. . . . .unfortunately for lahm, this is not world cup/euros. . . . . .this is the champions league. the competition where man city pasted bayern was also in the champions league, not the world cup or euros. you have the uncanny ability to make daft analogies. dayo, i am not the dude you wanna tackle in football debates - i have thrice your knowledge cos i ate 3 forbidden apples while you didn't even finish one of yours. ![]() |
dayokanu:your mentality is so shallow. if evra = lahm, why mention vidic and rio? don't you get it? if you had mentioned 2 centre-halves in your thoughtless comment, one would understand. missing lahm = missing fabio, i wouldn't even mention evra(4 european cl-finalist) in the same breath as lahm. who is lahm? what has he won for club/country in his career? lahm? you are a pillock! city beat bayern(end of story)! they had more internationals missing than bayern munich! |
dayokanu:you are the disgrace - your equivalent of lahm = evra, vidic and rio altogether. if you weren't born a reprobate, you would know your exaggeration was over the top. . . since you mentioned evra(a fullback like lahm), it's brainless to mention vidic/rio in the same breath. |
dayokanu:by dayokanu's logic - phillip lahm = vidic and rio ![]() you're a disgrace! |
dayokanu:the same pathetic excuse that made you lose to city was the same excuse united had in at least 4 group games. united did not play their strongest possible team - just like bayern did when they lost gallantly to city. |
dayokanu:allow united back into elite europe and they will make it to the final! however, it's a non-story though! |
dayokanu:i can name 11 city players that were not fielded in the return leg also. in this day and age, do teams even play a starting xi? by the same token, milner, kolo toure, micah richards, kolarov, hargreaves, clichy, tevez, wayne bridge did not play for city. haha - dayokanu and his brain-farts. so phillip lahm is a central defender like vidic and rio? you need lobotomy asap. . . |
dayokanu:so who is the equivalent of rio and vidic in he bayern team? i see no defenders missing in the bayern team. you talk a lot of shyte for an adult. bayern pasted man city in munich and city pasted bayern in manchester. every other thing is immaterial! |
dayokanu:you lost gallantly at etihad stadium by a bigger margin! if you cast stones, you would struck by thunder. |
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