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source Biafra times for Biafra writers these Liepods are just foolish and useless keep deceiving yourselves within yourselves to make your people hopefu

Just tell me what is wrong with making deprived and repressive people hopeful, when they have been abandoned by a country thought to be theirs...What is wrong with giving people hope?

FORMER Central Bank of Nigeria (CBN) governor, Professor Charles Soludo, on Tuesday, took a hard look at the nation’s socioeconomic and political problems and concluded that the country is at a crossroads.


Professor Soludo, who made the observation while moderating a panel of discussants on a topic entitled: “The big ideas podium: Towards a new leadership for a broken nation,” said Nigeria was being ranked as one of the fragile countries in the world.

The ex-CBN governor maintained that Nigeria as of today had never been more divided in the country’s history than now.

“Largely, big ideas rule the world and constitute about 75 per cent of any project. Nigeria is a project; it is a work-in-progress. African continent is a work-in-progress. It is only big ideas that work. Nigeria is at a crossroads,” he said.

Soludo, who is also the chairman of the African Heritage Institution, Enugu, Enugu State and organiser the programme, said there were nationality questions.

“There is the need to search for the big ideas to help in the transformation that will really get Nigeria moving forward and leap from the process of development to be able to claim its rightful place among the comity of nations and fulfill its manifest,” he said.

According to him, “destiny is only big ideas, formative ideas that can do so. So, under this big ideas forum of the African Heritage Institution, we are looking out of the ordinary, the missing links and what are those new things that we need to put in place.”

In his paper entitled: “The imperative of national crossroad leadership,” a former Director-General of the Nigeria Institute of International Affairs (NIIA), Professor George Obiozor, stated that the idea, explanation or definition of the term leadership was complex and controversial, adding that it had been the focus of intense academic and public debate for over 2000 years.

Obiozor noted that “Nigeria is a nation born in optimism in 1960 at independence, but has in its 56 years lived in a state of doubt and uncertainty. Within those years too, all kinds of analysis and conclusions have been assembled on critical issues responsible for what has become a Nigeria dilemma over its leadership, nation building and national development.”

Ambassador Obiozor recalled that “recently, some Nigerian political leaders have said that Nigerian unity is not negotiable.

“This is an irony, because these leaders have forgotten or have failed to learn the lessons of history. Nigerian unity is definitely negotiable and must be renegotiated for it to stand or survive the test of time. The reality over the years remains that in spite of the best efforts of all our leaders past or present, Nigerian unity is not guaranteed.

“It is simply, at best, an aspiration and not yet an achievement. Hence, the statement that Nigerian unity is ‘not negotiable’ is simply a historical fallacy.”

tribuneonlineng.com/nigeria-among-worlds-fragile-countries-%E2%80%95soludo

If the drooling Ngene, Sarrki and the confused Omenka, cath you, my hand no de, oh!

..would make certain that everyone has equal and fair treatment in our society.

This is the major bane of current Nigeria society, where the winner takes it all...

wristbangle:


At the italic, some igbo people are great but IPAD members are seriously demented. They chest beat on how they develop America, Europe, Asia with 50 capsules of coke

Yes the Igbos developed part sof America>>>

Igbo Americans, or Americans of Igbo ancestry, (Igbo: Ṇ́dị́ Ígbò n'Emerịkà) are residents of the United States who identify as having Igbo ancestry from modern day Nigeria. There are primarily two classes of people with Igbo ancestry in the United States, those whose ancestors were taken from Igboland as a result of the transatlantic slave trade before the 20th century and those who immigrated from the 20th century onwards partly as a result of the Nigerian Civil War in the late 1960s and economic instability in Nigeria. Igbo people prior to the American Civil War were brought to the United States by force from their hinterland homes on the Bight of Biafra and shipped by Europeans to North America between the 17th and 19th centuries.


The recent migrant population from Nigeria settled in many of the United States' larger cities and urban centres and had come largely in search of economic opportunities in the late 20th century. Because of the realities of slavery and its erasure of African heritage and customs, most people who identify as Igbo in the United States and speak the Igbo language at home are from these families that arrived in the 20th century and forth. Since the turn of the 21st century genealogy tracing by means of DNA testing is in part revealing the Igbo ancestry of African Americans, some notable celebrities including Blair Underwood and Quincy Jones.... Wiki

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You go soon jump inside the Lagoon....

ayoolanr:
Yorubas need to stop welcoming these ibo people with open arms and we need to start giving them a dose of their medicine. We need to start coming up with policies that will make them move back to their regions! Only then will this disrespect stop!

You don't need any policies. All you need is to support Biafra. We really want the stubborn Igbos to come back home..Hahahaha..

Eastwalk:
Pieces of bunkum......, I am talking of onitsha as a city you are fiddling on trabalism. nw who is tribalistic. Going through your signature all your post are tribalistic infact you should check ur username. And if envy really kills then half of your kinsmen should be dead by now, you deal with ur inferiority complex by claiming other people ahcievement. PH is own by the ijaw you claim its igboland. Lagos is developed by all tribe but majorly by the owners the yorubas. and you claim you developed it. What enviousness can be more than that you are even jelous of the beautiful yoruba people by bearing a stupid username.

Port Harcourt (Ikwerre: Ígúọ́cha;[12][13][14] Pidgin: Po-ta-kot[3][Note 1]) is the capital and largest city of Rivers State, Nigeria. It lies along the Bonny River and is located in the Niger Delta. As of 2016, the Port Harcourt urban area has an estimated population of 1,865,000 inhabitants, up from 1,382,592 as of 2006.[15][9]

The area that became Port Harcourt in 1912 was before that part of the farmlands of the Diobu village group of the Ikwerre, an Igbo sub-group (a controversial claim).[16] The colonial administration of Nigeria created the port to export coal from the collieries of Enugu located 243 kilometres (151 mi) north of Port Harcourt,[17] to which it was linked by a railway called the Eastern Line, also built by the British.[2][17][18] Wiki..

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Afonja, you need some education.

Very soon you will say Onitsha belongs to the Binis, Enugu to the Wawas, Owerri to the Opobos...You can claim the Igbos have no city... to make you happy...Rubbish...

SillyMods:
When you read hateful comments, you don't have to check the names behind them to know where they come from.

It's like hearing news about arrested/busted drug dealers; you already know where they come from.

Exactly...when you hear news of SKULL mining and incest...you know precisely where it is coming from...

matamaros:
FABRICATED LIES.

That " the team that won the African Cup of Nations for Nigeria in 2013 was tagged Biafran national team by some columnists and social commentators, including myself..." Or "The Golden Eaglets, Flying Eagles, Super Eagles, Flamingoes, Falconets, Super Falcons, D'Tigers, other national teams are dominated by the Igbos and Hausas"

Which one is your fabricated lie?

matamaros:
WE CONTROL 80% OF BUSINESS IN LAGOS YET OUR LANDS ARE EROSION RAVAGED. WE OWN LAGOS YET GOVERNOR FASHOLA DEPORTED US TO ONITSHA. IGBO KWENU

Yoruba Youths Have Lost Influence, Respect Of Nigerians
Author: Katherine Baffour
UPDATED: A YEAR AGO VIEWS: 2601 SHARE ON FACEBOOK SEND VIA EMAIL SHARE ON FACEBOOK SEND VIA EMAIL Writing for Naij.com from Magodo, Lagos, Maxwell Adeyemi Adeleye says the Yoruba youths are no longer making their valuable contributions to the political and cultural life in Nigeria. What can the Yoruba people do to restore lost influence? Lateef Raji, a public policy analyst, in an article titled Consequently, as a concerned Nigerian, I want to question the role(s) of Yoruba youths in the current fight against unemployment, starvation and poverty in Nigeria. This question was necessitated by my discovery through indirect observations that Yoruba youths are the most lazy, perfidious and egoistic youths in Nigeria as at today.

I discovered that the pride of an average Yoruba youth has overshadowed his intellectual judiciousness, level-headedness and sagacity. Today, among ten Nigerians submitting their resumes to multinational corporations eight would be Yorubas. Folks from my generation in the Western Nigeria are too lazy to tap from the abundant opportunities that litter the streets of, say, Lagos, for primitive accumulation of wealth. The Igbos, and, by extension, the Niger-Deltans and the Northerners have indirectly taken over the control of economy of Lagos, Nigeria’s indisputable number one centre of success, excellence and opportunities.

The Apapa wharf in Lagos has virtually been taken over by the Easterners. The data that I got from the Nigerian custom services divulges that 63% of those licensed to transact businesses in Apapa Wharf are Igbos. More so, data collected from licensing office reveals that owners of 56% of commercial motorcycles in Lagos are Northerners and Easterners. The lucrative transport business has been hijacked from the Yorubas. Today, the major work of average Yoruba youths on the streets of Lagos is to collect royalty, due and charges from the Hausas and Igbos, using their motorcycles to make cool cash from their land. Ninety-five percent of transport, travel and tour firms operating in Lagos are owned by the enterprising and hardworking Easterners. The Yorubas stay at various intersections harassing hardworking people transacting their legal businesses in the name of collecting charges and dues for the local government.

I also discovered that majority of the few Yorubas riding commercial motorcycles in Lagos are locally-trained automobile engineers that have abandoned their workshops. Furthermore, the popular Ladipo and Owode motor spare parts markets in Lagos are now solidly in the hands of Igbos. As usual, the Yoruba youths are in the market collecting dues for their local government chairmen and the Iyaloja General of Lagos. Yaba, Oyigbo, Sabo, Oshodi, Agege, Alaba, Idumota, etc. markets have been taken over by the Easterners and Northerners who are predominantly youths. Let me also assert unequivocally that the Igbo youths are now becoming more prosperous in the entertainment industry than the Yoruba youths. Today, the Yorubas hardly tune their DSTVs to the Yoruba movie channel of the satellite television; rather, they watch some other movie channel that show English movies with actors and actresses of Igbo extraction. Why? Because most Yoruba movies are short of creativity. I can also articulate that 85% of the CEOs and executive directors of commercial banks operating in Nigeria today are Igbos and Hausas under the age of 50. They are very talented in boardroom politics, unlike their Yoruba counterparts, and they assist each other with an amazing ease.[/b] Educationally, the Yorubas are no longer in the top-three.

According to the National Universities Commission (NUC), Anambra, Imo and Enugu have the highest number of professors and doctorate degree holders in Nigeria. Ekiti and Ondo states that used to top the list have been demoted to number four and six respectively. In 2014, the reports of the West African Examinations Council (WAEC) and the National Examination Council (NECO) revealed that the Yorubas have been upturned by the Easterners in terms of academic performance. Ekiti, a state known as fountain of knowledge, was number 34 in 2013. The Yorubas are also missing in the sports sector. The Golden Eaglets, Flying Eagles, Super Eagles, Flamingoes, Falconets, Super Falcons, D'Tigers, other national teams are dominated by the Igbos and Hausas.

The team that won the African Cup of Nations for Nigeria in 2013 was tagged Biafran national team by some columnists and social commentators, including myself. Politically, the Igbos and Hausas are more united than the Yorubas. The result of the 2015 presidential election is a point of reference. The Hausas voted massively for General Buhari of the APC, while the Igbos extraordinarily voted for Goodluck Jonathan of the PDP. Sadly, the Yorubas had no bearing during the election. Jonathan’s inner circle members are currently blaming the Yorubas for their son's expected defeat. Victorious Buhari's teammates are reportedly saying that the Yorubas contributed little or nothing to the success of their kinsman. In conclusion, I want to impel my generation in the Western part of Nigeria to wake up and begin to act. The nation of Nigeria that I am seeing today is hemorrhaging. I suggest we put ourselves in strategic positions. The bitter truth is that our leaders only think for themselves and their children. Read more: https://politics.naij.com/441183-yoruba-youths-have-lost-influence-respect-of-nigerians.html


OYA COME DE KISS YOUR TRUTH!!!

matamaros:
CHEST BEATERS OF NIGERIA. GALA SELLERS OF LAGOS.

SKULL MINERS of "South West" How market?

matamaros:
KISS THE TRUTH.

Go school you no gree..you prefer collecting toll and picking pocket in Isale Eko...Kwantinue...!!!

matamaros:
I PARASITES ARE WORSE THAN BH AND MILITANTS. THE ARMY SHOULD KEEP THEM IN CHECK.

Army fighting parasites? You see how your brain dey reason? Parasites should be ignored as they contribute nothing...but this is not the case...You need some education!!

matamaros:
THE ARMY SHOULD START WITH YOU PARASITES. YOU POSE A THREAT TO NATIONAL SECURITY.

What does the militants and BH pose? Owamebe part, abi..? Army fighting parasites? You see how your brain dey reason? Parasites should be ignored as they contribute nothing...but this is not the case...You need some education!!

matamaros:
INDIGENOUS PEOPLE OF PARASITES WHEN THE ARMY COMES FOR YOUR FLAT HEADS DONT BLAME BUHARI.

UNITY BEGGAR, have the army finished with militants in Lagos, Ogun and Ondo?

omenkaLives:
Ooooh. It has now become a problem of who receives them and no longer "it is a fraud".

Well, what do I know. Let me come and be going.

Look at this one...Where were they hidden that the government and foreign intelligence, couldn't spot more than a hundred girls? Maybe they were sent down directly from the sky...like the progenitor of a tribe that fell from the sky...

You have an issue with IPOB. Do you also have an issue with MASSOB, BZM, etc. We don't care about your beef...We want any vehicle that will take us away from the suffocating, repressive, confused and divisive Lugard's contraption..the mere geographic expression...Get that into your head!

Once you join APC, all your sins will be forgiven.

Owerri city is very lovely!!!

The only Igbos supporting this mere geographic expression, are:

1. The thieveing elites

2. Those with substantial investment outside the east.

3. Those who have one parent from other regions, especially from the West or north.

These people are in minority.

Last week, we brought you the first part of this captivating interview with General Ipoola Alani Akinrinade. In that copy, he discussed the health challenges of President Muhammadu Buhari – who happens to be his friend; the issue of restructuring – which has been one of his life-long pursuits; as well as his stay in exile during the National Democratic Coalition, NADECO, days. In this second series – which is the concluding part – Akinrinade practically rued the fight to keep Nigeria one, explaining that should Nigeria continue with its lopsided, deceptive and warped federal system, something would give.

Excerpts: ON BIAFRA AGITATION AND THE FUTILITY OF KEEPING NIGERIA ONE Good, you allow people to make choices. And you also said it is good to allow people decide their fate. This present agitation by the Igbos, garbed in the Biafra movement, in retrospect, wouldn’t we now begin to admit that the fight to keep Nigeria one, based on contemporary realities, was futile, a fool’s errand, that was not worth it? Those ideals that people had, in keeping the nation one, appear to have been thrown out of the window. (Pause). Well, I think as far back as the early 1980s, I’d alluded to the fact that it is still possible to keep a country like Nigeria one. I still have that belief. You still do; with all that is going on? Gen. Akinrinade Okay, whether it is a belief that is actionable and realistic, I have doubts myself now. So, what do you anchor that belief on? Maybe because some of us have served everywhere and we have friends everywhere and we talk and discuss and share views. As far back as 1983 when I went to Ife to deliver a lecture, I suggested that we would do much better with a confederation. There were quite a number of things I also said there. Because, there, I made it clear that the way free education was being continued, it was not going to survive or give quality education, that it needed remodelling. Those who had made good and were expected to pay back to society were still hinging their hopes on free education. That was not fair. When you have benefitted and can afford to offer at least 20 scholarships, you still want to keep your wealth made through free education and you want your children to also participate? On top of that, you add bursary. Are you going to give bursary to children of people in my social category?


It would be unfair on the farmers and those in dire need of the bursary. So, because my father married five women, I should now marry six because I appear to be a bit more comfortable? The society will not grow like that. Somebody has to apply the brakes and fine tune things. I believe a confederal system is more manageable. But even at that time, people kicked. So, imagine what the response would be now because things have gone from bad to worse. Why didn’t we allow the Igbos to go their way? Don’t you think we should have allowed them? Absolutely. But, honestly, we can have a true federal system after all.

Even Switzerland, as small as it is, still has its federal system intact. I think it is a black thing. We blacks have this problem about managing ourselves. But you are black and this world-view you have is progressive? Yes, but when we now come together to sit and try to solve a problem, I think we go gaga. And that negates your hope, rather than belief, that reasonable people should be able to sit down and solve a problem. It appears people are not as reasonable or do not want to be as reasonable as you suggest they should be? When the people are pushed and there is no other way, we would become reasonable because what is going on now, the governance structure, cannot continue forever.

ON CORRUPTION There’s so much going on about corruption in the country today.

The war against corruption. What is your view? We are still deceiving ourselves. Deceiving ourselves? Yes. Look, the fight against corruption goes beyond what is going on now. Let me tell you, the amount of money required, or that is laid out for security alone in this country must be so huge that it must be scandalous. Scandalous because of corruption or what? It is simply because we are poorly organised. That is not the fault of Buhari. But it will be his fault if he did nothing about it. So, this idea of shying away from a wholesale look at how we are organised for these tasks ahead, simply because it is tedious and difficult, then we are not serious. Let me tell you what breeds corruption: You cannot, for instance, as minister of agriculture, sit in Abuja, and ask people to apply for or show interest in a scheme like ranching. Do you know how big Nigeria is? Are you going to start driving round Nigeria to inspect?

This is just one of the things open to abuse. Just this week (last week), a young man came to meet me in the farm and asked to be assisted with a tractor to work on a farm land; that he had just gotten approval for a N30,000 per month allocation – a Federal Government scheme. He said his wife too applied and got. So, if they had a grown up child, that, too, will benefit. I tried assisting him but I told him it would be better if I helped him negotiate with the owner of the tractor that was being used on my farm. I was interested in helping him; so I took him in my car to the owner’s place. When we got to the owner’s place, that one requested to see the farm; and I was still prepared to help drive him to that farm so he could show it to us. It was then he said we should give him some few more days so that the farmland he wants to use would be made available – by the original owners. Now, the point I’m trying to make about corruption and the way we are organised is that you say you want to give people money to farm for a year or two – N30,000 per month – yet you sit in Abuja. How many people like him do we have in the country? How many more people’s names would be added who are not even existing. That is how government allows the system to become corrupt. The remoteness of government to the people breeds things like this and it fits into the issue of restructuring. Beautiful idea no doubt. But the system you are using has failed from the beginning. You have an outfit called SUBEB; it is based in Abuja.

ON THE CIVIL WAR There was always this talk about General Akinrinade, the tough soldier. During the war, there would have been instances that you would have experienced, though unpalatable, but such would help Nigerians appreciate what went down, so, those youths of today, who mouth inanities about war, can reflect deeply. Things happened, that, when you look back, you feel somehow. When I was in Bonny, I had this senior, who didn’t do too well in his earlier times and, so, he wasn’t getting promoted too well, so I overtook him. One day, a ship arrived from Lagos and he was on the ship. He didn’t tell me he was coming, so I thought maybe he came to visit or something. Apparently, he brought a posting paper, that he had been sent to Bonny.

I gave him a battalion to command. Five days later, we had an operation which I had planned before he took over that battalion, but I decided to go with him to that operation – that was in Bonny. Lo and behold, as we were just holed up in one fox-hole there, with heavy fighting going on, I just saw him going down. Ha! (Long pause)What happened? He had been shot. We got the medical people to quickly come and evacuate him and see if he could be saved. By the time they removed his dress, behold, he had a life-tortoise strapped to his body. And I wondered, how come the bullet hit him and he still died? So, all these people who say they are not afraid of bullets, or that they have one voodoo that can turn bullets to water so that it does not hit them, I feel for them because in the military and on the war front, these things don’t work that way. I felt so bad. I do not think that was what emboldened him to come to the war front; because we were both in that fox-hole, he was just unlucky that the bullet hit him. This is just one of the things that happened during the war, before your very eyes, that when you reflect on, you feel somehow. It was so painful because he spent only five days in the war front and he died just like that. How was Bonny? Bonny was a particularly bad place. Everybody found an excuse to get out of there. Why? After my two weeks there, I found out that people were shooting themselves. How? Were they turning the guns against one another? Or do you mean people were inflicting injuries on themselves – as in, really shooting themselves? Yes. People were inflicting bullet wounds on their own bodies. Sorry sir. You mean shoot their own bodies? (Pauses, then takes a pitiful look, as if this young man would not understand, then he responds) Yes! People were shooting themselves just to feign injury and get out of there. I just asked myself, we had a war to fight, what do you do in a situation like this? I simply wrote a Part 1 Order, that anyone who feigned injury or attempted that nonsense again, should just kill himself instead, because if he didn’t, I will do it for him. Because it did not make sense for people to inflict injury on themselves, just because they wanted to get out of the war front. I don’t think they took it too seriously. A few days later, the doctor certified that five people had inflicted injuries on themselves again. I just ordered that they should line them up and shoot them. Of course the whole thing stopped immediately. Nobody tried it again. But before then, even among officers, many did it and got away with it. So, like you asked, you remember some of these things and you feel bad. But you were in the war front; and you had a job to do.



He now said he wanted me to know of something. I asked what that was. He said he didn’t want me to continue sending prisoners of war to the headquarters and I asked what nonsense was he talking about. You know, the Geneva Convention does not allow you to harm any prisoner of war. In fact, anybody you capture must not be exposed to danger any more – unfortunately, that was the convention. He said the GOC was killing them at the headquarters, lining them up and killing them. What that meant was that the pogrom that happened before the war, continued in the Second Division. At that point, I asked why didn’t he tell me this before? He said it’s like a secret but he knew that I wouldn’t like it. So what did you do afterwards? From that day, I made a rule, that in the evening, those that had been captured, I would tell Ike, who interpreted Igbo language, to explain to them that if they wanted to go back to their units from where we captured them, they could go back but if they chose to stay back, they would be endangering their lives in the sense that if they overran our headquarters whoever was caught would be killed. But I also warned them that they could not also misbehave. At first, because they were scared, they didn’t want to leave, but later, they did. But we still found a few who chose to stay with us; and we deployed them in the cook or laundry sections. That’s why I said some of the things that happened were just too ugly to be retold. Some of these came out in the classified materials gotten from Britain recently about some people who said you captured them but you saved them? There was one of the officers who Gowon nicknamed Bandit. We all called him Bandit. He was commanding a battalion. In the evening, Ike Nwachukwu (who was my operations officer) and I, around 6pm, we would take a quick look at the 3 battalion headquarters before retiring for the day, just to be sure people were properly deployed. This evening, somewhere in the Ishan side, when we got to Bandit’s headquarters, he sat on that type of collapsible chair officers carry about. When he saw me, he jumped up and saluted.

And behold, there was a man buried in front of him, with just his head above the ground. I asked, ‘who or what is this? He said, ‘he’s a rebel sir’. I was initially taken aback, at least, knowing that we were fighting rebels in the first instance, so what made this one peculiar? He said, ‘well, he should suffer a little bit more before he dies’. I asked, ‘what’s the point, you want to kill a harmless man? How do you intend to kill a man who you have buried already?’ He said, ‘you just cut off his head sir’. What? What what? No, I’m just asking what that meant? You asked the questions, so get the answers too. (Another pause) He said ‘yes, just to cut off his head, as long as you do not look at his face’. So, now, when I look at the evil being committed by ISIS, I remember that this type of thing had been happening long before now. Therefore, what it meant was that the pogrom and the killings, like ISIS, had been happening in the 1960s, but most people didn’t know. So, I just ordered him to unearth the man, and I told Ike Nwachukwu to put him in the vehicle and I took him away. If we had enough officers and under a normal circumstance, I would have ordered Bandit court-martialled. But who would replace him? We didn’t have enough officers. I warned him, never (to do such a thing) again. In any case, who are those you would have sent him to so that he could be disciplined? The same people who already have the same type of mindset as to how to deal with rebels? These are bad stories. Where is Bandit now? There was a day Olu Bajowa came here to see me. He didn’t like Bandit at all.

So I asked him if he’d heard about Bandit after many years. Shocking, the response was: He said he learnt that he became leprous. Leprosy? Yes! Leprosy. I jokingly said maybe he even had it at that time and that was the reason he was so mean. But I’m sure there were moments of joy. It couldn’t have been all sad news? Well, you know my attitude to the war was that, why did the war even happen in the first place? So the issue of good coming out of it becomes irrelevant. Why did we have to go to war in the first place? Some people will say ‘God saved you’. But my own concern or issue with that is that why get into that type of a situation in the first place? Why did it get to that? There are too many things that happened but which were not supposed to happen but you just have to accept it. For me, I think it is just in the line of duty. I spent many more months in America and that was why I missed all the coups. We were sent to school there and America was even paying us and what they were paying us was enough for us to live and study comfortably – though Nigeria also made provisions for us. The first course was 12 months. Then they offered us some other courses but all my colleagues said they didn’t want to participate – this was 1965/1966. The school was so extensive, Forte Benning, in Georgia. The Airborne School, my colleagues said they were not interested; Rangers school, they said they were not interested. But I insisted on accepting. Though these were very dangerous courses but I decided to participate. That was why I missed out in the coups. But you did not miss because you gained knowledge Yes I did. I gained knowledge. But the coup that brought Murtala Muhammed to power, I went to Bulgaria for a course but, on our way back, we decided to come through London because that was where we always preferred to come back through. So, I bumped into Murtala Muhammed in London. There were five of us who arrived in London, including Buhari. So, we went shopping when we bumped into General Muhammed, he was my senior in Sandhurst. He asked when I was going back and I told him when. He said, no, you’re going back to Nigeria with me. I said, ‘sorry, sir, I did not come with you’ so I cannot go back with you. I’m here with my colleagues.’ I told him I had a small team with me there. He charged at me and said ‘you’re going to regret it’. Unknown to me that he was returning back to Nigeria for the coup that brought him to power. Did he then deal with you later? Ha! He meant it o. He dealt with me in his own way.


Read more at: http://www.vanguardngr.com/2017/05/allowed-igbos-secede/

NgeneUkwenu:
Continue to Dream!

Why do you love Nigeria the way it is...You love the status quo? Why are you a such a miserable person? Physically, you come across as a person that thrives in chaos...

Guestlander:
Spurious allegations again and again! Most people are this and that, this exactly is your problem. You make a lot os Spurious and general statements, how many Yorubas do you even know personally? Yet, you sound like an expert on Yoruba daily activities and even what they are thinking in their heads!

I am done with you. You can believe whatever you want. You can go back and see where the conversation started...

Guestlander:
Seriously, I have no data on who attends what. I won't discuss spurious allegations that have no basis in fact.

When you are cornered, you look for a fact...You should use your head to adduce. Take churches like Redeem and other pentecostal churches...Most Nigerians know that the Yorubas are the champions of tribalism...PERIOD!!

Guestlander:
Investment is a function of market and business viability. People invest primarily where they are sure of recouping their investment and making a return and if that place is kafanchan that is where they will go.

...and going to church is also market and business visibility? How many Yorubas attend churches other their own churches, compared to Igbos attending Yoruba churches...? My friend leave that thing...You are heavily tribalist...

Guestlander:
Because people like you are tethered to fear and mistrust and hate. If Nigeria is going to fall apart which I don't pray for, it will collapse because because Nigerians have decided not to use their brains anymore, it will fall apart because hate and tribalism and mistrust is more attractive to folks like you.

If you asked which tribe do more tribalism would you say it is Igbo? Yoruba are extremely clannish than any other tribes in Nigeria. You don't invest in any region than yours, while other tribes invest everywhere including your region. So you can see. Tribalism and mistrust are more from you...as you are afraid of all tribes other than your own...

Guestlander:
Yoruba were asking for restructuring of the federation even during Babangida, nobody knew the position of igbo until recently when Jonathan was defeated after the igbo erroneously thought their support was all he needed.

Yorubas could be asking for restructuring since your progenitor fall from the sky...and it has not happened? So when will you have your restructuring? MASSOB was formed in 1999...and has nothing to do with your Jonathan...You need some education, though...

Guestlander:
Defeatist? No, they are actually very smart. I hope Nigeria doesn't brake up but if it does that is when you will realize how effective the strategy is.
The Igbo are free to pursue their own agenda if they think they can do it alone without dragging Yoruba to it.

Are you serious? Who is dragging the Yorubas into anything? Rather the Yorubas want one Nigeria at all cost, as they prefer to be survivalists than taking the country of their lives...

Guestlander:
And so igbos lost out and became adrift and Yorubas became very good survivalists.

...How long would the Yorubas survive...Is that what you defeatist want? Can you go to space with the way you are surviving? Don't you have the balls to fight to be able to progress at your pace, instead of shouting down on the Igbos that want to control their lives? Ambode, can't even work on the Lagos airport road as he is being frustrated by the federal government. How long would you continue to survive? Your children will inherit survivalists tendencies...in their own country...

Guestlander:
I will explain it to you bro, do you know what is called "unforced error" in tennis? That is what Ironsi committed when he made Nigeria a unitary state. Nigeria founding fathers rejected it before independence for some reason.
After the second coup when Ironsi had been eliminated, the northern soldiers were shouting "araba" meaning they wanted separation until the british alerted them to the foolishness of that move.
The country was now under their control and it has been like that ever since.

..and so what?

Guestlander:
That is absolutely false. Igbo leaders led by Zik wanted a more united Nigeria before independence. Igbos only wanted out because they lost out as a result of the first coup.

Rubbish! So we shall continue with what Zik wants...What of the northern that wanted division and now want unity? A man has the right to change at any time. Maybe you are as rigid as a stone...