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advocatejare:
It's expected, your likes always run away when dazed with facts.
Ask Empiree, Crayfish09, Antichristian and the rest.

They ran away with their tails between their legs

In case you do not know, I do not have amnesia. You were the one that was disgraced on that thread

Enwhen:
Bro , the US has no hand in Terrorism likewise Saudi, Remember Saudi chased out late Osama out of their country when they saw that he has become a terrorists after leaving the US, and he went to Afghanistan to captured the govt with his al-qaedia group... Let me tell u one of the US fear about some of this countries and I supports it 100% because of what it caused the Nigerian Army... Pls go find out why Charles Taylor of butLiberia was jailed... During the reign of late Saddam Hussein in Iraq, Iran and others cannot cough where Iraq is even with their Shia backed forces, and Iraq was predominantly a Sunnis country which is not thesame today because of the likes of late Gen Suleimani , which is also thesame in Syria in the after helping them to fight ISIS, he imposed Shia on them, many of them likes it , but that's not my point, my point here is that during the reign of late Saddam, he over bragged just like Iran of today because of few weapons(mostly the chemical bomb) he had, of which Nigerian Soldiers suffered alot as a results of Saddam selling it to Charles Taylor and he sent his boys from Liberia to Sierra Leone to use it against our Nigerian soldiers, then if u come to the barracks , u would have notice some few soldiers who survived it but with skin like someone who suffered grade two fire burn, that bomb is a smoke, and if u touched much by the smoke ur skin pills and no one survived that bomb apart from those partly touched by the bomb, that was how President Clinton continued shifting the dead line date given to late President Saddam to retrieve that weapon from Taylor of Liberia , and Nigerian soldiers suffered alot from it... Just imagine if it was like hydrogen bomb , that was how Saddam would have sold it to criminals to consumed the world.... this is the fear of the US... because most Terrorists at the onset their target was Israel until the US started backing Israel and attention has been shift to the US looking for every opportunity to destroy US and those who don't share same belief with them.




Let me tell u something, I am a christian , and have many Muslims friends more than christains, and I have attended jumat services most times mostly when I was in primary school, and in most times my friends always tried to cover up for some of the imams, because of the bitter spill they preached against christians, if only these imams knew a christain was worshiping and observing salat with them then, only God knows what would have happened to me, but thank God for the kind of friends I have. I remember one Imam Liman , who was later burnt with his wife in his house to death after some years, that Imam was hated by many mostly boko haram because of what he preached( PEACE WITH ALL MANKIND) and he is not different from most Imams in the southwest that's why most of the imams in South west cannot preach in the core north, but apart from few of them like the likes of Alhaji Williams, who is now Kano, and some Said he was cautioned and stopped from preaching in the Lagos Island because of is teachings which is always against christians..because of these kind of wicked imams, most Muslims will want to Cary arms against christians as it is in the north, u will see somebody that laugh and do market with u , but after Friday prayers, they starts attacking christians then, but will only pity u by telling u how to run from it...in essence, this is how many of the Imams have been preaching in the world that is causing hatred for Christians and the US, and such, u cannot blame the US for that, even if u take the US, out of this planet, these Terrorists minded Muslims will still kill people, which can also be traced to some part of the Holy Qu'ran ....u can blame the US for that, some people are just trying to run away from the truth, even the US is scared of these terrorists , as we speak, there are thousands of Iranians and millions of Muslims in the US, how many has the US killed in America ??,... If u are an atheist, or Christian and even a real Muslim when u meet these sets of people , u would never blame the US, if u do a thorough findings , u would notice that the hatred has been there before the US... Look at the issue btw the Sunnis and Shia, thatbis another future issue to deal, and I just pray u don't also blame the US for that... Look at our leaders of the past selling us to the white , who will u blame for that ??, Even today , they steal and take the money to Europe and US, and those people used it to develop their nation , they go there to enjoy and when they come back home they start condeming the white to us , look at the issue of Boko Haram, they don't want to seek foreign help and our soldiers are dieing daily, they just told me the sad news of one of my friend who.has been killed with his father in different location, now the commandant is thinking on how to pass the message to that poor woman, if the US or UK, offer to help, this same leaders will say they want to come and steal our oil(excuses) , but these leaders are stealing our oil money to their banks...go to the IDP and see how our fellow Nigerians are suffering mostly in this hamartan period, tomorrows don't be surprised if these our leaders decide to blame the US, or Niger or Chad for this Boko issue... My bro, my point is that most times we should always look inward first before shifting our blames to outsiders.

Did I forget to mention to you that I am a Muslim? The so called anti christian preaches you are talking about is nothing other than how they, just like other non-believers, would go to hell. Let me ask you a question. Doesn't Christianity talk about how idol worshippers would burn in hell? I HAVE NEVER ATTENDED A SERMON WHERE THE IMAM SAYS WE SHOULD KILL OR HATE CHRISTIANS in the 25 years of my life that I have lived. These baseless rumors are highly predominant in the south. You hear things like Christians can't move, Christians can't own businesses, etc. But it's all false. If you see what goes on in Sabon Gari, Kano or PZ in Zaria the Muslims would have since exterminated all the residents their but till date, no one has done such. The Qur'an encourages peaceful coexistence with non-muslims and even permits marriage with they and jews. Mind you, marriage with atheists and idolators is not permitted in Islam and this is to show you how much Islam respects Christianity and Judaism.

If the chemical weapon story you just narrated is true, then can you explain to me why Tony Blair apologised? Just answer this question.

Don't allow religious sentiments to direct your thinking. I am well traveled and I see things from a neutral angle that is why I wasn't scared of calling Saudi Arabia a terrorist country. (Check their atrocities in Yemen).

Enwhen:
All these all fallacy.... Why is the US not manipulating UAE ??, SAUDi ??...these are islamic Terrorists. Just imagine the one that happens in Egypt , the Islamic brotherhood , can that also be trace to the US ??....The US, is a combination of most best brains in the world , they value and respect their people, their leaders are not criminals like ours, Nigeria is more blessed than the US but with stupid and criminals as leaders, so should we choose to worship and travel to the US , don't blame us... Even in our own country we are slaves to the Chinese , Lebanese, Indians... Our govt doesn't care about us, as long those White rats have paid their taxes they are free to misbehave and use Nigerians as slaves , but when u work with the Americans, even the white South Africans then u would know how these people value humans... Is it not better for me to be slave to foreigners in a foreign land than to be in my own country ??.. abeg , forget about what people are saying about the US , and forget about Trump, Trump will come and go like Bush, but the US remain...US is not what u think, the whole world is in the US, including Osama bin Laden son.. Islamic estrimism is what is worrying them not the US, some of their policians are using it against each other...Very soon we are going to start seeing it in northern Nigeria , if u go to the north u would see them there only that these ones are local and densed, Habeeb(Albanarwi, leader of ISWAP) became popular and got ISIS backings when his father Mohammed leader of bokonharam was killed by the Nigerianpolice, even his father never had foreign backings before he was killed... Will u also trace that to the US ??, I know how bokonharam started back then in Borno, forget all those fallacy u are saying , the issue is in Nigeria , many politicians used those Boko boys before during election, just that many investigative journalist are scared of their lives...tomorrow , u will blame the US for Boko Haram , if u have not started, u will blame the US for herdsmen trooping into Nigeria from Niger, Chad, Mali, Senegal, CAR, Ghana...because of the money they making from kidnapping in Nigeria...

Look I understand your point perfectly but as I said earlier, we can't deny the truth. You are communicating with someone born and bred in the north and I know a lot about Boko haram (at least based on what the news has been reporting since the days of Yaradua).

Of course, the US is not DIRECTLY the cause of Boko haram but their actions (supplying weapons in Libya and backing rebellion) helped to strengthen the terrorist group.

Let me ask you a question. Has the US shown you the weapons of mass destruction they went to seize in Iraq? They haven't and yet George Bush and Tony Blair were never even tried. They would bomb thousands of innocent civilians in those middle eastern countries and merely dismiss the callous act as "collateral damage" and act like nothing happened. If someone comes and wipes out your entire family and when all hopes are lost, someone gives you arms and tells you to fight that person that ruinined your family, why wouldn't you pick it especially when your holy book is deliberately misquoted to justify your actions? This is how it is causing terrorism all over the world. Are these the people that value human lives? Saudi Arabia like you said has been acting like a terrorist nation, same thing with Israel yet they are one of USAs most trusted allies and yet the hypocrites would be complaining when a soldier harasses a civilian in Nigeria.

Take it or leave it, it is an evil nation.

advocatejare:

I wonder how all of you reason. Who lost the debate between you and I?

I gave you the irrefutable evidence, Arabic word, transliteration and English translation of how your god was sniffing Mary's vagina in your Quran, you were so stunned that you almost collapsed and you didn't have any defence to make. How can you even have a defence with all the evidences I gave you?

At least if you've not learnt anything you'velearnt the Arabic word for vagina that your ustaz have been lying to you about since all these days.

'K'

Officialgarri:
Either you know nothing or you just want to attack my post.
But to help you, kindly Google "wheelus airbase "

then also Google how Al-qaeda terror group was formed.

They just don't know anything

Enwhen:
Does America have Air or army base in Libiya ??, Lybiya did not allow American forces to their country ....u just hate America and if Dem give u Visa now , u go go....


Na America created Boko Haram Ko ??, Na America created ISIS Ko ??, Na America created Hezbollah Ko ?, Na America created Al qaedia Ko ??, Na America created Al Shaabab Ko ??... It seems u are a Terrorists ... If u say America is going to those countries for crude oil , I will listen but they are not the one creating these Islamic Terrorists group everywhere , afterall there many nations with crude oil in the world , including Saudi Arabia, but for those with religious estrimism are the ones with war and Islamic Terrorists cos they believre they are on the course of Allah.

You American buttlickers are really shallow. So because he wants American visa (since you dummies always assume people want to enter that country where a psycho can easily shoot you for fun), he should not say the truth?

Let's start with Alqaeda. Do you know the country that initially gave them support just because they were battling the Soviet Union in Afghanistan? Find out

Do you know who has been arming people in Syria, tagging them as moderate rebels just because they dont want Bashar? It's Saudi Arabia and another country. Guess that country.

The millions of arms in Libya, where do you think they came from and secondly, where do you think our herdsmen and Boko haram are getting their weapons from? It's Libya

Look, we are not haters of America. I'm a kindle publisher and I use Facebook, Google, YouTube, IG, etc but I'm not the kind of person that would sell his soul for a bowl of soup. The truth cannot be denied

AntiChristian:
(QS. Al-Anbiyaa 21: Verse 91)
MUHSIN KHAN
And (remember) she who guarded her chastity [Virgin Maryam (Mary)], We breathed into (the sleeves of) her (shirt or garment) [through Our Ruh - Jibrael (Gabriel)], and We made her and her son ['Iesa (Jesus)] a sign for Al-'Alamin (the mankind and jinns).

PICKTHALL
And she who was chaste, therefor We breathed into her (something) of Our Spirit and made her and her son a token for (all) peoples.

SAHIH INTERNATIONAL
And [mention] the one who guarded her chastity, so We blew into her [garment] through Our angel [Gabriel], and We made her and her son a sign for the worlds.

@crayfish09 Leave the deluded fool to keep twisting text and deceiving himself.

It is clear from the verses "We blew... through our angel" and never was it mentioned that the blowing was done in to any body part.
And we all know it was an angel that visited Mary in the form of a man!
A liar will always remain a liar!

You know, one thing about nairaland Christians is that they never accept defeat and it is not only when they are arguing with we Muslims. Even at times when they get floored by the atheists, they still try so hard to keep the argument going. As you have pointed out, the Qur'an clearly described how Isa (AS) was born and he was never begotten unlike their falsified, biblican fashion. I was even hoping that advocatejare would challenge my claims about Yahweh instructing his warriors to "keep for themselves the virgins" (is forcefully, without their consent) and even keep some of them for him (Yahweh)

I will no longer argue with him henceforth regarding the issue of Mary. He has lost the debate

advocatejare:
But it's your fault that Allah blew into the vagina of Mary abi?

Was Mary a lifeless clay like Adam that your god had to breathe into her vagina?

Or did Adam get pregnant like Mary after your god breathe into him?


Anyways I'm not surprised that your god breathe into Mary's Vagina, he has promised you a paradise of sexual parties where a Muslim man will have 72 Muslim women to be sleeping with day and night and a Muslim woman will have 72 men that will be tearing her vagina day and night too.

Your attempts to mock Islam sound very stale. The Qur'an never said life was breathed into her Vagina. It's not my fault that your god is a molester and your buybull fully explains that by describing jesus as his BEGOTTEN son.

If you want to know who a pervert is, go and read the old testament where your god ordered his army to murder thousands of innocent men, children and married women BUT to spare the virgins for him after they have all taken their share

If you need help with the verse and chapter, Holla at me

advocatejare:
The Quran clearly state that

1. Jesus is the Messiah

2. Jesus is God's Word

3. Jesus is a Spirit from God

يٰٓأَهْلَ الْكِتٰبِ لَا تَغْلُوا فِى دِينِكُمْ وَلَا تَقُولُوا عَلَى اللَّهِ إِلَّا الْحَقَّ  ۚ إِنَّمَا الْمَسِيحُ عِيسَى ابْنُ مَرْيَمَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ وَكَلِمَتُهُۥٓ أَلْقٰىهَآ إِلٰى مَرْيَمَ وَرُوحٌ مِّنْهُ  ۖ فَئَامِنُوا بِاللَّهِ وَرُسُلِهِۦ  ۖ وَلَا تَقُولُوا ثَلٰثَةٌ  ۚ انْتَهُوا خَيْرًا لَّكُمْ  ۚ إِنَّمَا اللَّهُ إِلٰهٌ وٰحِدٌ  ۖ سُبْحٰنَهُۥٓ أَنْ يَكُونَ لَهُۥ وَلَدٌ  ۘ لَّهُۥ مَا فِى السَّمٰوٰتِ وَمَا فِى الْأَرْضِ  ۗ وَكَفٰى بِاللَّهِ وَكِيلًا
"O People of the Scripture, do not commit excess in your religion or say about Allah except the truth. The Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, was but a messenger of Allah and His word which He directed to Mary and a Spirit from Him...
(QS. An-Nisaa 4: Verse 171)


Now concerning the conception of Jesus


وَالَّتِىٓ أَحْصَنَتْ فَرْجَهَا فَنَفَخْنَا فِيهَا مِنْ رُّوحِنَا وَجَعَلْنٰهَا وَابْنَهَآ ءَايَةً لِّلْعٰلَمِينَ
"And the one who guarded her chastity, so We blew into her through Our angel and We made her and her son a sign for the worlds."
(QS. Al-Anbiyaa 21: Verse 91)




What did Allah blow into Mary that made her conceive Jesus? My question is directed to @Crayfish09 who said



Now have you seen now that your Quranic God claimed to have done the same.

The Quranic God blew his Spirit into Mary "without her consent " and she became pregnant with a son.


If Allah blew into Mary/Maryam and she became pregnant, Quran has told us who the father of Jesus was

What is so hard for you to comprehend in that verse? It is the same way Adam had life breathed into him by Allah after his body had been created. It is entirely different from begetting (reproduction via sexual intercourse). It's not my fault that your buybull used that word

Olabenjamen22:
oloriburuku ni e.

so hitler is now a catholic cleric like your foolish muhammed.

Why dont you show us where hitler cliam that he kill for catolic

You cant be a muslim and still be sane.

This is one of the problems with you dumb fools. You never read. Why don't you go and read his book? Read it and see where he got his inspiration from. And maybe you should read your old testaments too to see how much of a worthless child-killing blood sucker your god is

Olabenjamen22:
can you please list all the villages that bokoharam attack and give us the religion stats

It is not my fault that you have not been reading the news. Do you really think I have that time?

Olabenjamen22:
can you please show us proof that 90% of Bokoharam victim are mumuslim

Among all the villages and other locations they have attacked since 2011, how many are dominated by Christians (with few exceptions like chibok)

Olabenjamen22:
asking how mumuslim are the source of bokoharam is like showing how foolish you are.

"Boko Haram was founded in 2002 in Maiduguri, Nigeria, by a Salafist cleric named Mohammed Yusuf."

i guess Mohammed Yusuf was a jew.

Fool perhaps we should also blame catholic Christians for Adolf hitler then. Learn how to use your brain

Corrections:
PLS TRAIN YOUR CHILDREN WELL SO THAT THEY WILL GIVE YOU PEACE WHEN THEY GROW OLD...STOP PREACHING HATRED OR RELIGION OF BITTERNESS INTO YOUR CHILDREN...else they will end up being worse that I swap or bokoharam combined

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Still typing bullshit as usual.

zelgiusdigby:
Every region has its senators and governors. they've all produced leaders at some point. I've been to the south and with the way these clowns speak you'd think its some utopia when its worse than every northern state i've been to. Like you said, the niger delta which on paper with its small size and population plus higher FG allocation should be far ahead of everyone else but somehow its the saddest place in the country. Instead of holding their leaders accountable they're holding on to some form of faux superiority by blaming the north for all their woes.

Don't worry, we will divide the country in due time.

I hope so. Let's see how they will turn to Singapore overnight

Corrections:
YOUR COMMENT IS VERY FUNNY IT SEEMS YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND
WHAT IS HAPPENING. LET ME TAKE MY TIME TO EXPLAIN TO YOU.

Now, take this as example OK?

Let say I have a property ( Christian ) and beside me is another persons
property ( Muslim ). On my property ( christian ) I decided to set up a gas
plant storage facility with houses. Now as the owner of the property
( Christian ) I decided to be CARELESS with the gas plant facility by carelessly
leaving it opened and unclosed at the same time setting up a a temporary
KITCHEN 5 feet beside the gas plant. Are u with me? Now, my neighbor
( Muslim ) whose property ( Muslim ) is beside mine seeing this TERRIBLE
CHARACTER / BEHAVIOUR of me ( Christian ) decided to advice/ warn of the
impeding disaster waiting to happen. I ( Christian ) replied the advice from my
neighbor ( Muslim ) by telling my neighbor ( Muslim ) to mind his own business
that my property ( Christianity religion permits me to do what I did ).
Now one day, fire explosion happened from my kitchen set up 5 feet beside the gas plant facility on my property ( christian ).

This fire was so serious that it extended to burning 30% of my neighbours ( Muslim ) property my neighbour
( Muslim ) was very bittered and unhappy that such happened to him despite
the fact that he had warned his neighbor ( Christian ) about his carelessness
severally but instead was insulted. Now this affected neighbour
( muslim )decided to confront the careless neighbor ( christian ) on the
damages done to his property by the FIRE he ( Christian ) carelessly IGNITED.

You know what the REPLY of the careless neighbour was ?... This was the
carelesss neighbours ( christian ) reply " why are you ( Muslim ) complaining? I
( christian ) had 90% of my property got burnt from the fire incident but you
(Muslim ) only had 30% of your property damaged. So you see my neighbour
( Muslim ), I (Christian ) got MORE AFFECTED than you ( Muslim).
NOW ...in reality, christians are the affected souls and all what the Muslims
who happened to have been the SOURCE (through religions believes and
ideology ) of the FIRE ( massacre ) could say is " both Muslims and Christians
are being killed. Moreover Muslims are more killed than Christians ".
HOW DOES THESE STATEMENTS MAKE SENSE TO ANY SANE PERSON?

Now, the normal things a sane person that knows his FAULTS would do is to:
* Apologies to his AFFECTED neighbour.
* Ensures that his affectected neighbours get JUSTICE. JUSTICE!! JUSTICE!!
* That sure never happens again.

You are still typing the same nonsense that most of you southerners are used to typing. Can you tell me how Muslims are the source of Boko haram?

Can you tell me where the first Bolo haram bomb attack occurred? If you can't, I will gladly tell you so that this ignorance will be cured from your brain.

Nels55:
Oga , you're not making any point.. First acknowledge the existence of a problem, take responsibility and seek for solution before showing off your positive side..

Am a chief advocate of dividing the country so you can have your own government and the south will have theirs, if you're confident of what you're saying, why then your leaders are fidgeting??


If you don't know now hear it, North is a disgrace to Nigeria, your level of thinking, mentality is totally different and its holding the south backward... Can't wait to see a new southern country in the nearest future and by the way that means no harsh feelings for you guys... Have a nice day

Is there any region disgracing this country like the south? Who leads in cultism? Who leads in drug trafficking? Who leads in baby factory operation? Who leads in financial crimes/yahoo? Who leads in ritual killings? Who leads in prostitution?

Honestly I also can't wait to have this country divided so that we can see what the south is going to become with all this incessant chest beating. Till date only Lagos has a respectable GDP yet it's the north that is dragging you back. When the country is divided and the likes of Ikpeazu start looting you people to penury, you will realize that your leaders have always been your problem and not the north. The Niger Delta region receives Proportionally more money thab every other region in Nigeria yet they have nothing to show for it

seniormallam:
Muslims in Nigeria should have tackled this issue from onset , but instead, they were emotionally sympathetic to the killings since their major victims are Christians.......... But today, these terrorist end up giving Muslims bad names, like I always say " if you are too deep in Islamic knowledge and practice, you'll surely end up as terrorist ".............education is what is helping southwest Muslims if not no difference.

you people always display ignorance when spreading your baseless propaganda. 90% of Bolo haram victims are Muslims. Only ISwap seems to be focusing on Christians and military men. When did iswap even come into existence?

saaron:
The case of northern Nigeria is almost like Aparthied. A case of minorities (fulani) ruling the majority (hausa).
The fulanis used and are still using religion (islam) to subdue hausas and keep them under control.
Whether hausa's have been completely conquered by fulanis will be answered by future historians.
However, the hausa's can still regain their honor back and return the rule of their land back to majority if they disloge the fulani caliphate/emirate ''Emirs'' and replace them with ''Sarki'' the original term for King in hausa land before the arrival of usman danfodio.
Whether hausas will have the balls to overlook religion and get their lands back is another topic.

People are worrying about the future of this country and this is what someone is typing. Lol

shariff84:
We hausas,we see ourselves with Fulani as the same,we mostly don't care about what Fulani has become in Hausa.In a nutshell,we see ourselves as brothers just as the way Yoruba Muslims and Christians are.let me tell you one thing that you don't know,in the north we value religion more than anything. Onces you are muslem then we see yourself the same.in the north we have a lot of tribe not only Hausa Fulani almost about 100 tribe but we mostly spoke Hausa as our general language.Also, among this 100tribe onces you are muslem then we see ourselves one!

You should have allowed them to continue their self deceit. They think we are like them where someone from Imo will discriminate against someone from Enugu. In the North we consider ourselves as one as long as the religion is the same. Right now I don't know the tribe of Elrufai but I voted for him and would vote for him in any election again. Who cares about whether he is hausa, Fulani, nupe or Kanuri?

advocatejare:
Now that you're humble enough to apologise, your apology is accepted and you're forgiven.

But next time, don't be rude to an elderly person

I just went through the thread. Looks like I wasn't even the only one dealing with you. Now I'm beginning to feel guilty

advocatejare:
I'm happy that you know that you've bitten more than you can chew!

Sorry ehn

Imagine. The east was actively celebrating the unprovoked massacre and yet it is the north that is barbaric. Good thing they were taught a very bitter lesson eventually

advocatejare:
Who will your mama go to when she's been raped day and night by 72 men in your filthy, sex party Islamic paradise?

Lol
Go and take cold water. Next time learn to pick your mates before you bite more than you can chew

advocatejare:
I didnt expect anything less from the follower of a demon possessed Muhammad who got poisoned and died miserably while having sex and promised you his followers a filthy sex party heaven when your sex freaked Allah would stand and be watching all of you romping with 72 women in his filthy heaven. And your women too will be gangraped by 72 men at a time. It will be an eyesore

Eyya don't cry baby

Go to mama