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CultureRe: Yoruba, Igbo And Acculturation (or Multiculture) by Crayola1: 3:44am On Nov 22, 2011
Obiagu1:
It's obvious you're bored and need some entertainment. I was shocked to see this silly thread in its 13th page when I logged on.

Those that want to keep this ignorant lonely girl entertained should carry on, I'm out of here.
^^ You finally figured out what's up  cool

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CultureRe: Yoruba, Igbo And Acculturation (or Multiculture) by Crayola1: 3:37am On Nov 22, 2011
CultureRe: Yoruba, Igbo And Acculturation (or Multiculture) by Crayola1: 3:31am On Nov 22, 2011
ezeagu:
Bet you're regretting opening this thread. "What was I thinking?"
She's not regretting anything, this was the whole point to piss people off, the same reason why she's made variations of this same thread grin She doesn't want to know where anything came from, its all for show to do her usual "Yorubas are number 1" dance grin



Lol why are you guys still arguing with Ilaki Ldelaki, that was the ultimate point of the thread to get a rise out of you guys.  Its Woman 101, the Mindfuck, where a girl will say the most bleeped up thing just to get you pissed and then play innocent  cool Make your point and move on, or just clusterfuck the thread like I'm doing  grin
CultureRe: Yoruba, Igbo And Acculturation (or Multiculture) by Crayola1: 3:28am On Nov 22, 2011
Aigbofa:
Go and play with your crayons.
Stranger danger! Stranger Danger! I need an adult  shocked grin
CultureRe: Yoruba, Igbo And Acculturation (or Multiculture) by Crayola1: 3:25am On Nov 22, 2011
Aigbofa:
@ Ezeagu

In 1830, the equivalent of a GAP store in iboland would have been a rafia palm.
Wow that joke was bad tongue

Delivery is key man wink
CultureRe: Yoruba, Igbo And Acculturation (or Multiculture) by Crayola1: 3:18am On Nov 22, 2011
CultureRe: Yoruba, Igbo And Acculturation (or Multiculture) by Crayola1: 3:14am On Nov 22, 2011
CultureRe: Yoruba, Igbo And Acculturation (or Multiculture) by Crayola1: 3:07am On Nov 22, 2011
CultureRe: Yoruba, Igbo And Acculturation (or Multiculture) by Crayola1: 2:55am On Nov 22, 2011
CultureRe: Yoruba, Igbo And Acculturation (or Multiculture) by Crayola1: 2:52am On Nov 22, 2011
CultureRe: Yoruba, Igbo And Acculturation (or Multiculture) by Crayola1: 2:49am On Nov 22, 2011
CultureRe: Yoruba, Igbo And Acculturation (or Multiculture) by Crayola1: 2:44am On Nov 22, 2011
alj_harem:
grin grin grin grin that is yoruba and igbo for you grin grin grin
Which was ultimately the point of this thread  grin
CultureRe: Yoruba, Igbo And Acculturation (or Multiculture) by Crayola1: 2:41am On Nov 22, 2011
Ileke-IdI:
Abeg more pixs jare kiss
You know I will, the first couple brought you to your senses kiss maybe the next set will teach you a new trick kiss But the third you'll thank me for my charity work cool
CultureRe: Yoruba, Igbo And Acculturation (or Multiculture) by Crayola1: 2:37am On Nov 22, 2011
I wonder if Koreans and Japanese argue half as much considering their outfits as well as many of the Asian Pacific nations were inspired by China, I wonder if the topic comes up or do they just get on with life grin
CultureRe: Yoruba, Igbo And Acculturation (or Multiculture) by Crayola1: 2:31am On Nov 22, 2011
CultureRe: Yoruba, Igbo And Acculturation (or Multiculture) by Crayola1: 2:28am On Nov 22, 2011
He's got those Jay-Z lips grin
CultureRe: Yoruba, Igbo And Acculturation (or Multiculture) by Crayola1: 2:26am On Nov 22, 2011
CultureRe: Yoruba, Igbo And Acculturation (or Multiculture) by Crayola1: 2:23am On Nov 22, 2011
Ileke-IdI seriously can you stop saying my name, especially in that creepy unhinged way you are doing it, Christ some of you need to step back from the internet,   undecidedgrin
CultureRe: Yoruba, Igbo And Acculturation (or Multiculture) by Crayola1: 1:13am On Nov 22, 2011
Can I ask you what exactly are you, the few threads I happen to come across you've claimed to be several things, so I think it would be best to list them all for clarification cool
CultureRe: Traditional Eastern Ijaw Attire In Pictures by Crayola1: 8:44pm On Nov 21, 2011
^^
Ouch lipsrsealed
CultureRe: Yoruba, Igbo And Acculturation (or Multiculture) by Crayola1: 8:30pm On Nov 21, 2011
Aigbofa:
"Dirty old man", "getting a rise out of, "; Do I sense a sex.ual connotation to your statements towards me? As long as you are of legal age, we may get something started, but you must look really good.
Well I did say you were a dirty old man, the more you post the more you prove me right in my assumption undecided If it keeps you away than yes I am way below the legal age, embryonic in fact undecided
CultureRe: Yoruba, Igbo And Acculturation (or Multiculture) by Crayola1: 8:14pm On Nov 21, 2011
scholes0:
Well, at least the title was spicy  enough to attract you, wasn't it,

And when did it matter, what kind of thread someone decides to open??,  the poster wants to focus on two major Southern Ethnic groups, Yoruba and Igbo, what in the world is wrong in thathuh, ,  shows how much of a complex you have, when  the poster talked about Yoruba influencing Igbo and indeed Nigerian fashion, and the next thing you and your cohorts do is swarm in and start blabbing about how the Agbada is not Yoruba fashion,  If it is not Yoruba fashion , then why is there a Local name for it in the first place, ??
What is the Yoruba name for a Tuxedo or a petty coat??

Please get rid of your Complex and Internal conflict, and lets discuss the topic sinsibly!!!
My named was mentioned several times so I wanted to post what I said earlier and clear it up what I had said and not variations others may have wanted to portray as what "I" said. Well  it matters because the same folks who swear up and down about Nairaland being too tribalistic will in the same breath partake of such acts, so it gets confusing after a while embarassed

And I like pictures oh and knowing the OPs MO, you pretty much knew where this thread was going, its a given, follows pretty much the same pattern, I can't fault consistence cool

My cohorts? I have no cohorts, I speak for me myself and I? I know you guys like to play Crips and Bloods on here but, me I need no team to make a point, unless "Crayola1" team is what is being discussed, then yes I am pro "Team Crayola" representing  cool

Once again that makes no sense the NA-PEP tricycle cars in Nigeria can be found in other countries with various names, does that mean it was invented in Nigeria huh

I have no complex but I'm glad others have seen this thread for what it is cool I could care less the Agbada is to baggy for my liking anyway, though it looks nice kiss


Aigbofa:
That's right, just as illogical and senselss as your rants so far on this thread.

If Im anywhere close to you grandpa's age, you better start respecting me, lest you are sent to your room to play with your crayons.
Ok lets see I said that the Agbada has its influences in Hausa/Fulani attire show proof and its a rant, you have so far chased me for three pages in this thread with not even one shread of proof contradicting what I said and you are the sensible one. Up and Down have reversed in Nigeria I guess cool

Like I said when you show you are worthy of respect you will get it, so far a dead rat in a gutter has more honor and dignity than you have put on display in this thread, I'll gladly go upstairs with my crayons, beats talking to a dirty old man grin
CultureRe: Yoruba, Igbo And Acculturation (or Multiculture) by Crayola1: 7:55pm On Nov 21, 2011
^^
What that doesn't even make sense, I said the lame crayola joke you made would only be remotely funny to people several times my age because that would be their kind of humor. Jesus, it like talking to a small child in a grown a,s,z man's body undecided
When you are worthy of my respect you will earn it, I don't believe in respecting someone because of their age and not their ideas. cool


scholes0:
Poster wasnt talking about superiority.

She only said that the fact that Most Igbos wear Abgadas and related clothing today, can be attributed mostly to modern day Yoruba contact.

And Influence does not not necessarily mean superiority,  Jeez!!, so people need to deal with their complexes!!
If that was the case why focus on just Yoruba and Igbo, everyone mixes and matches in Nigeria so need to single one group out. Its not a complex its called being partial and unbiased, something many of you struggle at (not necessarily you).  Why not just title the thread Multiculturalism fashion in Nigeria, or would the former not be spicy enough to attract attention because it would be neutral undecided

The thread was purposefully made the way it was for a specific reaction, which is why the other poster brought up the "superiority" line, and others have commented. You yourself cannot say this thread was designed with neutrality in mind?
CultureRe: Yoruba, Igbo And Acculturation (or Multiculture) by Crayola1: 7:46pm On Nov 21, 2011
Two pages back I gave you the links to all my sources, so you can fact check me if you like, or you can continue arguing blindly. I don't mind a good laugh cool Wait so you are using my source to argue my source is a lie, wow how shady is that grin

nadkaf:
@ poster!!!!

This is really such a senseless post! What did the Yoruba invent? Agbada, Babban riga, boubouhuh? Same thing, differnet languages!! You're touting "we this, we that", do you know the history of the famous "buba" of Yoruba women? Not as old as you think! Invention of the twentieth century, to hide their unclothedness,

Now if you were to talk of the aso-oke, éhen! then we can talk. That is Yoruba. We are alike yet so different. Why not celebrate US rather than try to flaunt the assumed "lordship" of one over the other! And if you must, please dust up your history books a bit and stop thinking that history begins and ends with the number of years you have lived, which gives a very narrow vision, I am afraid!!!!
I agree if that was the intention of the thread, I would have just said nice pictures, but instead it became a Joystick-measuring contest. At the end of the day to the outside world its all seen as Nigerian clothes so who has ownership of what is a moot point. And like you said instead of focusing on the differences the focus should be on what is similar wink
CultureRe: Yoruba, Igbo And Acculturation (or Multiculture) by Crayola1: 7:44pm On Nov 21, 2011
scholes0:
Abeg, shut up.!!
do i know U from anywherehuh  shocked
I don't know you tell me cool

Aigbofa:
What do you know? It must hurt that while Yorubas were INVENTING Agbada, some people were roaming about Unclad in the rainforest east of river Niger.

Who made you people unimaginative and therefore incapable of coming up with an ordinary mode of dressing!
And for mentioning my mother, I hope your wretched one has stopped wearing her grass skirt.
Um, no I'm not hurt but I swear you sound mad hurt right now, no wonder you are foaming at the mouth grin
You mean modifying my friend modifying.
Like I said, I don't fault anyone for going in the nude, in Africa with 90 degree weather everyday all day, you want to look a hot sweaty mess for the sake of looking cute, be my guest. And yes other groups the Igbo for example may have not had the elaborateness of the Yoruba clothing but they did have clothing and fabric.

I wasn't talking about your mother its called sarcasm, but man I didn't think I would get such a rise out of guy old enough to be my great grandfather, my bad kiss

Well I would think that you being a Nigeria would know most groups had some sort of fabric and did not use grass skirts, in addition to that considering that your ethnic group along with the many others in Nigeria were colonized, I would hope you wouldn't want to play the "I'm more civilized card" considering that members from your ethnic group were sold into slavery as the rest were and colonized like the rest. So the British must have not noticed your "cilivilizedness" as much as you would like shocked
CultureRe: Yoruba, Igbo And Acculturation (or Multiculture) by Crayola1: 7:33pm On Nov 21, 2011
Aigbofa:
What do you know? It must hurt that while Yorubas were INVENTING Agbada, some people were roaming about Unclad in the rainforest east of river Niger.
Lets play a little game shall we? I will post sources to back up my claims and you do the same? Sounds fun? kiss
Though I have made no mention of my ethnicity or even the fact if I'm Nigerian  at all you find a way to play tribalism 101, classy cool I don't fault anyone for going unclad in Africa, place is too damn hot in some parts. In my opinion that makes more sense to me than walking in 90 degree weather with all kind of fabric on for the sake of being "civilized", which I'm sure was ultimately your point. But I digress

During the late eighteenth and the early part of the nineteenth century the existing order of power in much of what is now Nigeria was upset by the impact of an Islamic jihad inspired by the Muslim Fulani leader Uthman dan Fodio. Across the city states of the Hausa in the North, down to the Nupe people on the banks of the river Niger, [b]and as far South as the Yoruba city of Ilorin rulers were swept aside to be replaced by Muslim emirates. The main Yoruba power of Oyo was defeated and their capital city abandoned in the 1830s. The new Fulani rulers brought with them a style of male dress consisting of flowing robes and huge baggy trousers adapted for horseback riding. They also bought an Islamic tradition of "robes of honour" where embroidered gowns and the flowing turbans worn with them became badges of office for both rulers and court officials. Emirs and other rulers purchased the finest robes for themselves and distributed numerous others to their courtiers. An elaborate trade network developed, with both Nupe and Yoruba weavers and embroiderers, along with specialist tailors, cloth beaters, and dyers, serving the the main emirates. Rulers of other courts such as Yoruba kings beyond the reach of Fulani power adopted the same style of dress, and in the twentieth century the gowns became the accepted dress of important men across a large area of Nigeria and into neighbouring countries. [/b]
Le Boubou—C'est Chic: Les boubous du Mali et d'autres pays de l'Afrique de l'Ouest - Book Review

The author examines the appearance of the boubou and analyzes its provenance, making historical and contextual attributions. His premise is that manufacturing techniques are stable scientific criteria that yield cultural and historical information. He separates appearance (his central theme) from the meanings of motifs and decorations, for which he suggests there is too little evidence to draw definitive conclusions. Gardi acknowledges the rich literature on Hausa Nupe boubou forms and embroidery (Heathcote 1995; Perani & Wolff 1999) and mentions recent work on Ghana (Gott 1994). He stresses the need for a wider view of west African boubou styles and their interrelationships. This point is enhanced by a discussion of the rich terminology designating boubous (and their manufacture), and the fact that linguistic similarities from different regions may indicate interesting historical correlations (p. 17).

Gardi then formulates a typology of ten classical grand boubou styles from the nineteenth and twentieth centuries, using decoration and cut as criteria for division. These include the Malian tilbi and lomasa boubous, Liberian and Sierra Leone mandingo boubous, the Nigerian Hausa-Nupe rigas and Yoruba agbadas, boubous from Segou (about which little is known, represented by a Musee de l'Homme example), Cameroon Grasslands boubous, Cote d'Ivoire Diula and Senufo boubous, patchwork boubous from Liberia (this type is pictured in a 1907 postcard), and indigo resist-dyed boubous from Senegal, Senegambia, and Western Mali.
The agbada is
excessively wide at the shoulders, requiring the wearer to fold the fabric over, creating a
layered effect that further accentuates the shoulders. The vertical folds of fabric on
either side of the neck form two draping loops, the bottom of each loop being around
knee height. The draped effect has been likened to a bat with wings folded over its
body. Most agbadas also feature an embroidered chest pocket woven out of anaphe silk
(known as the Ajufun) with a V-neck skewed to one side and a large pocket below,
creating an angular contrast to the excessive folding elsewhere.

While the gbariye and dandogo are specifically[b] Yoruba forms of dress
worn in the South-West, the embroidery designs on the Ajufun originate from the Islamic
North, bearing parallels with designs seen throughout the Sahara region, with their roots
2
in both talismanic concepts and Islamic aesthetics. [/b]As well as providing a strong
decorative element and strengthening the pocket and neck of the gown, t[b]he Ajufun is
thought to have protective powers. Most agbada have variations on two classic designs
known as "two knives" and "eight knives" – dagger-like embroidered strips on either a
vertical or a horizontal axis. Another favoured motif is the Islamic “magic knot”. This
pattern is worn both by northerners and by Yoruba who experienced a northern
upbringing.[/b]1
At
http://books.google.com/books?id=zmKZ7-y4Q3gC&pg=PA100&dq=agbada+clothing&hl=en&ei=zAm6TpWXKMvAtgeezJWqBw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=7&ved=0CFIQ6AEwBg#v=onepage&q=agbada%20clothing&f=false

^^
This one even has pictures, I know you'll enjoy that kiss

http://books.google.com/books?id=r_pUDOWOB7MC&pg=PT64&dq=agbada+clothing&hl=en&ei=zAm6TpWXKMvAtgeezJWqBw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=8&ved=0CFcQ6AEwBw#v=onepage&q=agbada%20clothing&f=false
^^
This one is even more explicit smiley


http://books.google.com/books?id=Q_lCFcabj0MC&pg=PA59&dq=agbada+clothing&hl=en&ei=Qwq6Ts2nJcGTtwfi342iBw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2&ved=0CDcQ6AEwATgK#v=onepage&q=agbada%20clothing&f=false
^^
Yoruba Mean wear Hausa style clothing,
[img]http://books.google.com/books?id=1u4EAQAAIAAJ&pg=PA6&img=1&pgis=1&dq=agbada+clothing&sig=ACfU3U12on5ysBkjg9eQXOy-auiaJSb3Lg&edge=0[/img]


Your turn my friend cool
CultureRe: Yoruba, Igbo And Acculturation (or Multiculture) by Crayola1: 7:14pm On Nov 21, 2011
CultureRe: Yoruba, Igbo And Acculturation (or Multiculture) by Crayola1: 7:11pm On Nov 21, 2011
^^
And you are telling me this because, oh wait I said I was Igbo right grin Oh wait no I don't believe I did, but try again kiss


Aigbofa:
@Crayola

Why don't you go and play with your crayons and and come back when you are matured enough to know that your childish tantrums and insults will never change the fact that your poeple were the least imaginative people in the whole of Nigeria.

Why are you trying to kill yourself because Yorubas INVENTED Agbada! It's not too late little girl, you can still invent a new native attire for your people.
Wow a crayon joke, you are an old man aren't you, because only someone over 30 would have remotely though that was a great comeback, no wait 50+
I posted links what have you posted? Your word, and honor? You've sworn on your mother's grave? The only person throwing a tantrum is you I gave you 10+ links contradictory to that fact and some how I'm killing myself because Yoruba people invented the Agbada when scholars who have actually done the research say that they adapted from the Hausa who adapted from the Fulani and etc.  kiss Ok sweetie if it hurts you that bad to know where the Agbada really came from, I'll stop speaking the truth just for you.
CultureRe: Yoruba, Igbo And Acculturation (or Multiculture) by Crayola1: 7:07pm On Nov 21, 2011
Does anyone else believe in the "multiculturalism" part of this thread undecided grin

https://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj72/myem0/01/yoyo-emoticon-1-048.gif
CultureRe: Yoruba, Igbo And Acculturation (or Multiculture) by Crayola1: 7:03pm On Nov 21, 2011
Ileke-IdI:
Let them keep going on and on about agbada as if that's the only thing changing right under their nose kiss
^^
And the purpose of this thread has been revealed, damn only 6 pages Lord a new personal best for me kiss

If I saw the thread earlier I would have won sooner grin

Lord some folks are transparent they might as well be glass grin
CultureRe: Yoruba, Igbo And Acculturation (or Multiculture) by Crayola1: 7:01pm On Nov 21, 2011
CultureRe: Yoruba, Igbo And Acculturation (or Multiculture) by Crayola1: 6:58pm On Nov 21, 2011

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