Obi1kenobi:

I guess in the liberal prism through which I view the world, the supremacist nonsense I hear from many Igbos irritates me: and in some ways, helps me understand some of the resentment that Igbos attract to themselves with pomposity like that.

I agree that I get why such behavior would be annoying. But I've always believed that there's a reason why such behavior is exhibited in the first place.

The Civil War was a very brutal experience that was essentially designed to make sure Igbo people stay in place of penury and etc. But despite such a harrowing experience Igbo by and large climbed out of a dark place on their own with only each other to rely on.

Compare it to the NE that largely bred and cultivated the Boko Harem problem and they are receiving funding and support from the federal government with no strings attached.

To survive a war that claimed close to a million (or more) of your countrymen and still have a level of success (by Nigerian standards at least) would instill a sense of pride, both the good and bad kind. The good kind being that we survived and are here to tell the story. And the bad kind being of the "we're developers" variety.

Maybe I'm rambling, but I follow you and see you mention this a lot. And I notice there are Igbo people who (I hope at least) say tongue in cheek that they find Igbo people annoying or they are so noisy and I feel that on some level they have bought into the Nigerian mentality that "Igbo people are the other" to be chastised or mocked. Or they are uncool or etc etc.

And I just think that people should be a bit more sympathetic, that doesn't mean that you dont call people out on foul BS that do because they are Igbo like you. But to be a bit more forgiving and sympathetic that Igbo people have a lot of baggage that they still carry around some 50+ years later and they way it presents it self can be inspiring and down right irritating at times. It's the same mentality that makes an Igbo man sponsor all the young people in his community's education and at the same time fuel IPOB or the no man's land comments.

Achebe himself admitted that Igbo people have the ability to toot their own horn a little to hard. Not necessarily out of maliciousness, but a general sense of pride in their own accomplishments especial when they are at a severe disadvantage.

I don't how this relates to anything other than I wish Igbo people would internalize that drive into more positive avenues other than arguing up and down about who developed what, who needs whom, which place is no man's land, and etc. Abia at the very least would benefit from that zeal to be the best.

IPOB would be worth its weight if Kanu spent more time focusing on creating a voting bloc that would throw out politicians who were not performing their functions. If they started here they would at least build a base of politicians that would be sympathetic to them instead of aiding with the NPF and Nigerian Army.

Let me be going then lol

Temptee101:

You don't get it, do you? How do you want me to come to terms with the fact that no Nsukka indigene has ever become V.C in UNN despite having the highest number of professors and being the most educated in Enugu state.

This is simply unacceptable and a huge injustice before God and man

Mind you, this is the 15th UNN V.C, the most useless crying garrulous idiot we have as a governor should have stood his ground as an nsukka man he is. Like they say a leopard can never change its skin. A coward/fool shall forever remain a coward

I'm ashamed to call him an Nsukka man

Nigerians complain about not being a meritocracy and demand an oligarchy/nepotism. For some reason they are surprised that nothing works like it should.

What exactly do you want? Do you know how many Universities in the US have leaders from far flung places? Should Bostonians complain because the chancellor of Harvard is not from Boston? Especially if they are doing a damn good job?

Instead of demanding critical repairs to facilities, more funding for departments, and God knows that Nigerian universities are just lacking in everything the 21st century demands....you are demanding a local be in charge.

Not a talented individual. Not a qualified individual. Not even someone with big ideas and a passion for reform.

Are you mad? The ceiling in some of the hostels are collapsing in on some poor unlucky student and this is the hill you die on?

Believes in the bible he says? Was there a chapter or verse that spoke of the power of thievery and dereliction of duty to one's constituents? The bible he knows must be a different version, one available to only Nigerian politicians lol

BuhariAdvocate:
Stop pretending to be yoruba. And my topic is not anyhow relate to cause tribal war.However Because Obama or Mandela eulogies Achebe work doesn't translate into public opinion. For example some people believe that Mandela was Africa hero which I'm against.

Then what is your point? Things Fall Apart is standard book that is a part of many High School curriculum in the US, talk less of other countries. And is often the book of choice when it comes to African literature at the University level.

A book that is translated in Spanish to Mandarin is not a popular book? By which metric? Because book publishers are not charity workers, if your book isn't worth the time they wont print it one language, forget 60+ altogether. You think Scholastic would publish Harry Potter in dozens of languages if it wasn't a best seller?

The most recognized Nigerian author today is Adiche, that's not even disputable. Shes hosted TED talks, a guest speaker in many events, had pieces published in the New York Times, mentioned in a Beyonce song for christsakes... which other Nigerian author has this kind of buzz.

In scifi literature there's Ndidi Okafor, who is getting one of her books turned into a possible series on HBO and she is working on the Black Panther comic, if I can recall correctly.

Because you feel that Achebe said something that you didnt like, that somehow retroactively strips him of his legacy? That you'll name some random guy that wouldn't even share shelf space with Achebes children's book, not even his masterpiece because that would be an insult.

Soyinka has the Nobel Prize and Achebe is the most well known African author, with Adiche following closely behind. Yoruba people get one Igbo people get one everyone should be satisfied.

I sometimes wonder if Nigeria has been extraordinarily cursed? This is headline news for day and in the grand scheme of things will matter very little while Nigeria continues to be plagued by every calamity imaginable.

The spelling of names is not exclusive to one group of people. It could be the same spelling but the pronunciation and meaning is completely different.

Achebe is so unknown his novel is the most well known, most translated, and most studied African novel of all time.

God I hope to be that obscure in my lifetime...

With Adiche being the next well known Nigerian and African author in recent time.

MetaPhysical:


Abeg siddon for side!

Children abroad are wayward because their parents spared the rods. When they gt on teenage years they are uncontrollable because they grew up underatanding they must have their way and have no underatanding of restraint. The relationship with their parents become disrespectful and at that point it escalates to beyond their homes and into public. They grow a mob mentality and become fraternal with peer pressure and daring risks. They start small with vandalism,then into assault. No parental control, government take over and act as surrogate parent by putting them in time out....but the timeout is spent in prison where they drug them to keep their volatile behavior in check. The drug has negative effects because it distorts their metabolism, endrogene and pituitary glands. .....turns them into monsters.

Have you lost parental control over your children in SE? Is that why you see this prison as a cop out? You need a surrogate parent to take these children off your hands....a prison,.... or perharps ship them to North and West to go sleep under bridge and become nuisance to Yoruba and Hausa?

You are a deficient region!

Nigeria with it's "perfect" children is doing what exactly? Engaged in cultism, kidnapping, rituals, murder, robbery, terrorism, and every other vice. So what are you going on about? If Nigeria was doing things the right way it wouldn't be at the bottom of every index.

Was it not a young man from the SW tried to bomb an airplane bound to the US. Which is why I now have to go through a full body scan to get on a plane. Was it not to young men with ancestry from the SW that murdered a UK soldier in cold blood on a London street? Credit card theft and money scams are huge in the SW.

Is it not the North that made Nigeria a hotbed for terrorism in West Africa and Africa as a whole? Some of lowest rates of school attendance in Africa. Endemic childhood poverty.

So what exactly are you going to teach when you are no better than the rest?

Which is why you can only deflect. You have no point other than bigotry and ignorance so when you are given facts you can only spout nonsense in return.

At least the wayward children in the US have access to health care and a proper education even in detention. The average"Perfect Nigerian" child cant even dream of such a luxury lol.

So you continue to boast of your inferior "superiority" in a country that ranks dead last in everything, while I'll enjoy civilization in the wayward US lol

MetaPhysical:


By showing all these links and making reference to other countries what you are saying really is Anambra is not the only one putting its children in prison,.... look, other people do it too.

You know in America their children go to school with guns and wipe out a whole class. That behaviour is often attached to degenerative syndrome out of control because of lapse in medication or its tolerance in the system.

Did you notice in the article that a foreign agent is involved in this prison affair? Ok,so your imprisoned children will be drugged to control their behaviour. Are you ready for the consequence?

Because they do. Every country sets it based on their standards, but plenty of countries do it because they understand that sometimes kids need to be detained for a wide variety of reasons. With the goal being that they are rehabilitated and quickly released back into the community.

Nice deflection..

Nigeria is the same country where a bunch of girls are kidnapped and sold into slavery, made child brides, and God knows what else Boko Harem has done to them. It's also the same place that educates children in conditions not fit for even barnyard animals. It's the same place where children are spanked and humiliated because of their parents' inability to pay school fees. It's the same place where public universities are underfunded and substandard. Which puts them at a severe disadvantage in a the 21st century. There's also cultism and runs girls. And on and on...

if Nigeria was nirvana there wouldn't be so many threads about obtaining Visas from the USA to Botswana. Because that's how desperate your countrymen are to flee the country. Nigerians wouldn't be flooding every school in the US for degrees.

I thought Nigerians like everything foreign

You talk as if plenty of things in Nigeria are home grown. Your malls are foreign, your telecom services are foreign, the oil pumped from the ground and sold back to you are from mostly foreign companies, or is Shell and BP Nigerian? Trains from the Chinese, malls from the South Africans, cars from the Japanese...my friend stop being clever by a fourth (you are way too dull to be clever by half lol)

It makes sense that they would source outside expertise because that's what you do when you are not familiar with something. And why would you drug children? I dont know how laws work in Nigeria, but you dont get to just drug people talk less of kids as you like. Unless the child has a mental disorder that requires medical treatment, you are not just giving them drugs to calm them down.

MetaPhysical:
Crayola, i say you are deficient in Iboland. You keep responding exhibiting more deficiencies.

You dont put children in prison, Period!

If you dont know how to attend to issues of your underage criminals shut up and stop responding with crap!

Did we not tell you back in 2005 your society will bear the brunt of indiscriminate baby factories all over your region? Babies born into dysfunctional programme.

Collect petition and write your governor not to put those children in prison. You are playing with danger. You are trying to groom beasts in SE.

These are just 3 countries with a youth detention system. There are plenty of other countries that detain children who commit petty crimes, are truants, or in severe cases housed until they age into the Adult system due to the level of crime.

United States
Youth detention center

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Youth_detention_center

UK
Her Majesty's Young Offender Institution
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Her_Majesty%27s_Young_Offender_Institution

Korea Correctional Service

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korea_Correctional_Service

Is Nigeria better than any of these countries?

I dont know what point you are trying to make when plenty of countries have similar facilities.

MetaPhysical:


You are deficient in SE.

These are delinquent children, criminals....worse than almajiri children. Almajiri go out to beg, your children in Anambra, according to this article, go out to commit crime and terrorize society. They must be locked up in a prison away from hurting people or vandalizing properties in society.

You are deficient!

Okay, so is South Korea then because they have them too. The US as well. Canada in fact is a hell hole because they also think minors should be rehabilitated in their own special facilities.

Most countries frown on children being forced to beg, but okay. You are the guy who lives in the country that is unable to provide the basic necessities for living...and I don't. I guess that's why you have time for such stup1d thoughts.

Yes a juvenile detention center. Or would you prefer minors and adults being held in the same facilities. This a common thing done in the US, Europe, and etc.

The grand prize is to be the most powerful group in "Nigeria". Is that a prize or a curse? I rather be powerless in South Korea, at least they have light and clean water

Movie Posters

Street markings! Like you see in some Asian countries

Akagu, the nsibidi derived Igbo alphabet

maclatunji:


Hahahahaahahahahaha, 'Igbos have not led in Nigeria is why we are in a mess' is your point in summary. The highly celebrated Dr. Ngozi Okonji Iweala was Minister of Finance and Coordinator of the economy under our richest period in history in terms of revenue.

Much good she did running the economy aground.

While you might not be capable of totally deciding the fate of the country on your own, your penchant as a people to be saboteurs will definitely have to be addressed as Nigeria continues to develop.

You seek to mock the development of other parts of Nigeria but you forget that Igbos keep trooping to these regions on a daily basis. For all your love of "municipal water' you still cannot resist heading to where you claim it doesn't exist. Are you parasitic by design?

You would argue against the notion but the facts on ground are plain to see.

The slightest suggestion of Igbos being evicted from these better sophisticated regions in terms of politics leaves you whining to the point of literally crawling to beg the likes of Professor Ango Abdullahi who might not be good with giving Municipal Water but is good at giving political naive tribesmen from the Southeast a lesson in political maneuvering even with deplorable tactics.

#LOL

No that's your words. But thanks for building that strawman son.

My point is that if the SE is least sophisticated of the 3, going by your train of thought then it makes sense it would be worse off. In fact the two regions with 500 years of sophistication should be in a better situation because they know how to play politics the "right" way, according to you.

But the facts on the ground say otherwise, so all I'm asking is where is the sophistication at? Do I need to squint and spin around 3 times before I spot it?

Next point how can people be unsophisticated and saboteurs at the same time. You can only be one or the other. You can't play both sides of the fences. Their unsophisticated nature would be overridden by the fact that you are sophisticated. By shear numbers alone the SE numerically cant override the SW and North together.

So are you saying the SE is so powerful it can upend the two sophisticated regions by such a large degree?

And as citizens of Nigeria they have that right. Igbo people aren't getting anything for free so how can they be parasitic? Parasites by definition take and give nothing in return.

You debase yourself by claiming sophistication, but have nothing to show for it. Which is the saddest fact of all. You think sophistication is power and not what is done with that power. Which is why you are trying failing at not being a tribalistic thug, like the rest of your brothers in arms.

At least they are honest with their bigotry and hatred, you think you are above that because you don't say "kill all the Igbos".

If Professor Ango Abdullahi is not good at giving Municipal Water then what good is he for? He's so sophisticated that he can find time to threaten Igbos but can't find time to figure out why millions of Northern Children lack access to education. Exhibit A of sophistication in maclatunji eyes.

And Nigeria will continue to "develop"

LOL

maclatunji:


A simple look at history has shown that Igbos have largely contributed negatively to the political development of Nigeria. From leading the first coup that destroyed the first republic to insisting on instigating the Biafra war when a clear and detailed negotiation could have addressed many of the issues.

A nation develops by making proper decisions at critical junctures.

I can also refer to the mindless egging-on of GEJ's kleptomanic government.

Without a shadow of a doubt, in 3rd world Nigeria, the Igbos are the most problematic lot. So, you can name whatever country you want but it will not change this fact.

In a country that cannot provide municipal water according to you. Is it the current noise coming out from the Southeast that we need?

If you want to discuss the impact of political history on Nigeria's development, create a thread and tag me. At the moment you are your 'municipal water' are derailers. #Yeye

Okay there was a coup. Why didn't the sophisticated fellows of Nigeria rally around and move past that? Igbo people are so powerful they managed to keep the rest of Nigeria firmly in 3rd world stays for 50+ years? Igbo people get power o.

You would think with the other two sophisticated ethnic groups on the case they would have made their respective regions heaven on earth!?

They didnt? SAD.

There was a negotiation it was trashed and the country was then plunged into war for 3 years. And since then there have been calls for restructuring and those various conferences where old men are paid to go take naps under the guise of "restructuring". So there has been plenty of negotiating? Where were you? Being sophisticated so much you forgot...I guess?

So why haven't the sophisticated people made critical decisions at those critical junctions in history?

Like the mindless egging on under Yardua where you guys literally had a corpse for commander in chief?

Or the mindless egging on that allowed OBJ to squander all they goodwill he had to literally make no sustainable impact on Nigeria other than padding his bank account?

On and on and on...

If they are so problematic, why are the two sophisticated regions just as crappy as the rest of Nigeria. You are transferring a lot of power to Igbo people, so much so they have the ability to negate your sophistication.

Which is clearly why super mega city Lagos still thinks open gutters constitute the highest level of sophistication.

Igbo people are the sole reason why Northern Nigeria has an infant/maternal mortality rate on par with Afghanistan (a country in the midst of a decades long insurgency/war).

Clean running water is a pretty basic part of infrastructure and yet the two sophisticated regions can't manage that!? It's the current noise that you should be squawking out of your sophisticated mouth to your sophisticated leaders in your sophisticated region.

But yet you consider political back bitting and cronyism that benefits the .001% of Nigerians as a sign of political savvy and skill. Which is why you brag that your leaders have the choicest positions while driving your car down a potholed road to your house that hasn't seen consistent power in 3 years. But you winning tho!

Will probably die in a hospital because lack of drugs and equipment, but my kinsman has been President 3 times!!!! Winning!!!! Sophistication b1tches!!!

Of course its yeye to you because you are simple man with simple thoughts. Sophistication for you is power, the end.

I don't have time to tag simpletons, go create your own thread to circle jerk and blow yourself over your sophistication.

maclatunji:



Now, that you understand that all parts of Nigeria have issues, spare us whining.

Is it the hate speech and mischief-makng of the Southeast that will guarantee peace? Only the living and safe bother about municipal water.

Ask your relatives that passed through the Biafra war if they bothered about Municipal water when they were eating lizards, worms and God knows who else. When we say you lack sophistication, you just keep proving it.

Address my points or go play in traffic. You cannot look out your window and claim sophistication. If you are going to claim you are superior to Igbo people, then you should not be inhabiting what is the 3rd world.

Having your elite jostle for the country's wealth and power while the average person in the North and SW don't know where their next meal is coming from is not what anyone calls sophistication.

What is so sophisticated about any part of Nigeria. Is it roads? Ha, no. Low levels of unemployment? Guess again.

You are so a.s.s backwards that right now you are probably spent in your last 100 dollars to power the generator that allowed you to type your ignorant message, but because "your people" are in charge you are happy.

Other countries that have less resources can manage providing electricity 24/7 but they are not a sophisticated as you. They are so stupid, everyone know sophistication comes first before hospitals.

It's:
1. Sophistication
2.
3. Developed country?

Japanese people are so stupid lol.

Can you tell us, what exactly were you guys doing with your sophistication while people eating lizards and worms in the East? It was a perfect opportunity to do lots of thing but for some reason you guys decided to leave the place looking like complete crap? Was that by choice?

maclatunji:


Part of the problem the Southeast has is poorly developed political culture and structure. You cannot compare the political sophistication of the Binis, Hausas and of course Yorubas with the East. For at least 500 years, other parts of Nigeria have had a strong state governing them even before the colonialists, this has sharpened our political skills and strategic reasoning.

Igbos have not had this and it reflects how you mismanage yourselves as a people.

If you disagree, point to a proper empire Igbos had

Political skills so sharp and strategic reasoning so great. That poverty remains endemic, sanitation is poor, basic infrastructure is lacking, and etc etc.

Clearly the Japanese, Norwegians, and etc are the real fools that they passed up learning from the masters

The way some of you talk one would think there are regions in Nigeria that aren't part and parcel of the third world.

500 years of state governance but still can't master a basic municipal water sytem. Clap for you

ChinenyeN:
Anyone have any requests for a new objective to tackle?

Terms for space and astronomy

kaura5000:
Today i was reading oyo empire the yoruba guy tried to denounce any northern influence including the introduction horses as cavalry.. he made a big lie vy saying oyo was the most political important state in west africa in 17 to18 century..which is a lie. .. the sokoto caliphate was the most important... Another lie which he says hausa kanuri and nupe slaves were soldiers in oyo which is a lie.. where did you get hausa slaves you local champions.. if anything is the other way round.. yoruba slaves are all over sokoto caliphate,cuba,brazil, etc.. yoruba are the most enslaved people in the world

When did owning slaves become something to be proud of?

Rawani:
Excuse you?

I'm a Fulani man concerned about the needless insults the blabber-mouth has been spewing at my kin..

Shouldn't be aching you so bad

Water seeks it's own level, you and FKK are one in the same in my opinion. So why exactly are you mad?

Radoillo:
Sure. It might take more than a few days, though. Presently, I'm no where near the book.

Or just fables in general, to be honest. Like how the world came to exist and things like that.

If you get a chance can you post a few selections from that Book?

macof:


Try to be a little bit more mature and sensible in your responses.

Anyway, my post was a response to a bunch of others not only urs, being the last I had to quote it

I want to know how igbos dominate Nollywood, by popularity of films with Igbo dominated cast and crew or by number of igbo actors and producers. Remember Yoruba movies are part of Nollywood.. in a survey they would be counted as well

Like I said "Yorubawood" is not an official term..That would be like saying Igbo movies are Igbowood, and I'm sure you wouldn't agree to that.
That the hausa movie producers choose to form Kannywood doesn't mean igbos and Yorubas should follow, Hausa movies are afterall not restricted to Nigerian contributions, Hausas from all over west africa are involved.


After all you've said I believe you still get the point which is our collective contributions have made this industry. .
I wouldn't want to derail the thread any further. Thank you

If there if there is no "Yoruba-wood" then why does every article about actors who only do roles using the language must be prefaced with "Yoruba Language Actress/Actor". Whether or not you make the distinction other people do and classify accordingly. Sometimes you get the Yoruba branch of Nollywood, but more often then not its treated like Kannywood, a separate entity from the English Nollywood, unless you are someone who crosses over between the two.

It's essentially how Bollywood is Hindi. Tollywood Tamil and etc. To the outsider they are all Bollywood, but in India it is definitely not the case.

The group to suffer most from this are Igbo people who arguably treat Nollywood like Nollywood+1 where Nollywood English (Igbo inspired films) and Igbo films are almost one and the same.

I will not use the word dominate (because that is too antagonistic) but Igbo people still play a major role in English Nollywood. Even in the posh Nollywood films you like to hype, Igbo people are still among the cast in many cases. Considering the fact that many of the actors still in rotation are long runners its bound to favor one group over the other.

Or in one strange case of one Yoruba director who had mostly Yoruba actors answering Igbo names in the film (why tho? just make them Yoruba or have them answer English names).

The more local Nollywood is definitely still tied to the Alaba cartel though

But a Nollywood open to all is a good thing, I hope

macof:


I noticed igbos like to downplay the works of Hubert Ogunde and Ola Rotimi especially Ola Rotimi for restriction to theatrical plays. For ur information, his works were widespread, Africans and Europeans were supporting them with patronage, works like "the Gods must be crazy" of how a son killed his father and married his mother, haven't been forgotten till this day. Being theatrical shouldn't be a reason to consider them unfit. . Today in Hollywood, Broadway is a big thing and Many acting talents are a product of on-stage performances. Many of the pioneers used celluloids and gave the world Films like Jayesinmi, Ajani Ogun, Aye, etc which were not restricted to western nigeria. For Freedom by Ola Balogun was showcased at the 12th Moscow International Film Festival in 1981. so why ignore all this and delude yourself that Nollywood started in 1992?

Sure living in bondage was a great leap forward but don't deny the pioneers of the deserving credit and Hijack their spot. What is Time if not to afford us the opportunity to improve on what is already on ground? Kenneth Nnebue and many other igbos were involved in film making as protégé of the more popular personalities who happened to be Yorubas

Nollywood should be a tool to bring Nigerians together but somehow some trouble makers have found a way to breed more resentment


Mr. What we call Nollywood is "Nigerian film industry" simply as that. Living in Bondage was a success, Nigeria probably didn't have such a success throughout the 60s-70s in terms of reaching the masses by availability in stores nationwide but how does that mean Nollywood started in 1992 when the name "Nollywood " didn't exist until the 2000s.. why not say Nollywood started just less than 15 years ago?


This is not about me, but an industry Nigerians (especially southern Nigerians) have built, which btw is nothing compared to Hollywood and Bollywood in terms of quality and popularity of movies... What Nollywood today prides itself on is quantity

No one is downplaying anything. The fact of the matter is that there were two distinct eras in Nigerian film making and not just one. And to tie the two together as though they are one continuous periods is disingenuous at best.

Then can you show evidence of such. You saying so is not the same as actual sources to back it up. Where is the proof that Nigerian films had any widespread appeal in Nigeria, talk less of outside the borders of Nigeria. Because quite frankly I find it hard to believe that to be true. Much of the western world's exposure to African film making came from Francophone West Africa where film making was and continues to be sponsored by Europe (to a lesser degree these days). Many of the most well known films after independence came from Senegal. The oldest film festival in Africa is in Burkina Faso by the way.

No one is saying that because they were in the theaters that is bad, the simple fact was that most Nigerians in the late 70's and 80's could not afford to go out to watch movies and in many cases it wasn't safe to do so. Which is why home movies became a popular alternative. Before said movies became popular, films from the US and Asia were the most popular films in Nigeria during this period.

Nigerian films were an after thought until the 90's. Does this diminish the work of those fine men who pioneered film making in Nigeria? No, but it goes against historical facts that those movies were not big with Nigerians outside of select groups. You can be first and find yourself pushed aside by a newcomer because they tweaked your original idea. It happens all the time.

Ford came first but pales in comparison to the sheer scale of Toyota whose cars you can find on the streets of NYC to the most remote parts of Afghanistan being driven by the Taliban. That's life.

Nothing brings Nigerians together, not sport and not film.

It's not what we call, it is what it is Nollywood in its current iteration can be traced to the 90's. Nigerian film making as a whole can be traced to the 60s. Because every source and many more make that distinction very clear.

I'm glad you finally admit that Living in Bondage was a success, because before you swore it was a non entity. it's important that it had mass appeal. Can you call yourself an entertainment industry if your films are restricted to one area of your country? Could Hollywood be called America's film industry if it only catered to people in the state of California? What about this is hard to understand?

And your logic of Nollywood wasn't called Nollywood in 1990s so it doesn't really count is a falacy. Hollywood branding came much later after film making took off in America. Hollywood is actually the name of a community in Los Angeles that later became tied to film making because all the studios set up shop near the area.

If you like you can extend the Nollywood branding to the start of filming in Nigeria by indigenous directors and label it first wave and the 1990's the second wave. At the end of the day the second wave was more successful and widespread than the first. See everybody wins.

It is all about you and your hang ups if you really want to convince us that Nigerian films had the reach it did before the 1990s. Nollywood is for everyone but not if you are going to deny pivotal moments in its history for the sake of being "first". Yet despite it being trash it still doesn't stop you from trying to claim it I feel like because the illiterate traders manage to turn something small into a really big deal is what bothers you the most

Haba let Igbo people get shine for once now

The sources all point to Living in Bondage as being the film that started the 2nd wave of Nigerian film making. The irony being that had these traders not load of their sacks and carry films along with them Nigerian film making may have never recovered from its death kneel in the 1980s.

Why people won't accept this is puzzling. Or the thought that traders were more successful than the "professionals" is the thing that is bothering some people.

Ramsey Nouah is off making a sequel/remake to Living in Bondage. If it didn't matter then why did he pick that film out of the countless other films of that era or even ones that came before it. Mind you the original was not in a language he even speaks.

The Economist

The first true Nollywood film resulted from an ill-advised business venture. In 1992 Kenneth Nnebue, a trader, ordered a large consignment of blank videotapes from Taiwan. Finding them hard to sell, he hired a theatre director to make a cheap film and copied it onto the tapes to boost their appeal. “Living in Bondage”, the story of a farmer in a big city who loses his wife and is haunted by her ghost, sold more than half a million copies.

Washington Post

Most filmmakers point to 1992 as the pivotal year for Nollywood. It was the year when “Living in Bondage,” a blockbuster thriller shot in the Igbo language, later with English subtitles, was released on video CD.

New York Times

The industry itself was born out of economic desperation during the early 1990s, a period of military dictatorship, low prices for Nigeria’s oil and Western-mandated “structural adjustment” of its economy. Actors and cameramen were out of work because of budget cuts at the national television station. Movie theaters were closed because no one wanted to venture into the dangerous streets at night. According to legend, the first Nollywood movie was made by a small-time electronics trader named Kenneth Nnebue, who, stuck with a large shipment of blank videotapes, decided to unload them by making a movie about a man who sells his soul for wealth. That movie, “Living in Bondage,” sold hundreds of thousands of copies and established Nollywood’s archetypal plot elements: martial discord, greed, a conflict between Christianity and juju, as the occult is called in West Africa. From these accidental origins, a cultural phenomenon emerged.

Other merchants, overwhelmingly members of Nnebue’s ethnic group, the Igbo, followed him into business. They literally made things up as they went, shooting movies in just a few days, based on vague scenarios instead of scripts. Directors approximated tracking shots by pushing their cameramen around in wheelchairs. Quality was shaky, but the buying public didn’t care. Between 1994 and 2005, production in Nigeria went from a handful of feature movies a year to more than 2,500.

Kenneth Nnebue quit Nollywood a few years ago, retiring to his village to devote his life to preaching the Bible. But the industry he established remains tightly controlled by the same group of Igbo businessmen, an insular guild sometimes called the Alaba cartel.