This is a good question
Aminusanti, worldworld, rashduct4luv, farmerforlife
Empiree, iamgenius, friendchoice

CAPSLOCKED:




I NEVER EXPECTED I WOULD BE BUSTED THIS SOON

It was fun while it lasted though.

I'm now thinking which one I should deactivate, CAPSLOCKED or HopefulLandlord. I think I'll keep both and pretend the bust never happened

CAPSLOCKED:




STOP TRYING TO BULLY AND BLACKMAIL PEOPLE EVERYWHERE. NOT EVERY TWO PEOPLE WHO AGREES ON THE SAME THING ON THIS FORUM ARE THE SAME PEOPLE.

THERE'S JUST ONE CAPSLOCKED ON THIS FORUM, AND ALL OVER THE WORLD.

IF YOU HAD SENSE YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SEE THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN US; TIMING, GRAMMAR, FAVORITE SECTIONS. BUT YOU DON'T CARE BECAUSE YOU'RE HEADLESS.

Come on bro, I'm you. when a Christian with discerning spirit that's also spirit filled and has the holy spirit (who reveals truth) living in him/her like the person you quoted says something about you it can't possibly be a lie.

Deep down in your heart you know you're me but the devil inside you is making you lie. I know I'm you so that proves it all but why are you denying who you are? are you ashamed of your cutemadridista monicker?

dalaman:


His plagiarism, lying , spinning and insults says he is morally unclean. He is going to hell.

TBF on our resident scammer, he has an imaginary friend which he can talk to and all his lying, stealing, insults and scamming would be washed away and he becomes a "new creature". Hell, he can kill 5 billion humans tomorrow and all it would take is mumbling some words to his imaginary friend and it all becomes fine and dandy but you that stole your classmate's pen when in secondary school has no such benefit so you're worse than him
If all you wanted to do was sin, then being a Christian is PERFECT for that. Sin all you like! Ask for forgiveness. Never have to really take personal responsibility because it was Satan and demons that made you do it or the effects of a generational curse passed down to you because once upon a time, in a garden far, far, away, two people ate from a forbidden magical fruit tree.

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GoodMuyis:


Right
But when it comes the word God and god, every English speaking person or writer knew Both word mean different entity

Wow! the sarcasm spectacularly flew right over your head sir

Miremoses1:
I think Sergio Ramos pushed dybala intentionally so he could miss the next match, and be back in the semis without a knife in his neck.

No sir, any player that makes semis has all his yellow cards cancelled so if Ramos hadn't gotten a yellow yesterday and he collects one in second leg he would've still played the semis on a clean slate

FOLYKAZE:
Christians are the most confused folks on earth. I wonder sometimes if they read their bible or if they read it without putting their thinking cap on.

Ecclesiastes 1:1-11 New International Version (NIV)

Everything Is Meaningless
1 The words of the Teacher,[a] son of David, king in Jerusalem:

2 “Meaningless! Meaningless!”
says the Teacher.
“Utterly meaningless!
Everything is meaningless.”
3 What do people gain from all their labors
at which they toil under the sun?
4 Generations come and generations go,
but the earth remains forever.
5 The sun rises and the sun sets,
and hurries back to where it rises.
6 The wind blows to the south
and turns to the north;
round and round it goes,
ever returning on its course.
7 All streams flow into the sea,
yet the sea is never full.
To the place the streams come from,
there they return again.
8 All things are wearisome,
more than one can say.
The eye never has enough of seeing,
nor the ear its fill of hearing.
9 What has been will be again,
what has been done will be done again;
there is nothing new under the sun.
10 Is there anything of which one can say,
“Look! This is something new”?
It was here already, long ago;
it was here before our time.
11 No one remembers the former generations,
and even those yet to come
will not be remembered
by those who follow them.

14 I observed everything going on under the sun, and really, it is all meaningless--like chasing the wind.

You don't understand the context, pray to the Hole-ly spirit to open your eyes to the meaning of that passage

OR "meaningless" is a bad translation of the Hebrew word @&£&@+£- so don't read bible literally

OR Solomon was just giving his own opinion, those verses aren't from god himself but from Solomon. although we quote the verses of ecclesiastis like its god's opinion when it's convenient

doG bless you

Neurotika:
A man wandered round the place healing people, feeding 5000 with a plate of fish, raising people and himself from the dead, yet even the Jews that lived with him still doesn't acknowledge these stories. No concrete evidence of those great things in the places he was said to live for over 30 years. But since a book said I should believe without questioning, then my brain can just take a back seat. Interesting world....

The Jews themselves don't believe any of that nonsense but a Nigerian read a book and concluded the Jews are wrong then started hallucinating and seeing images of Jesus in the dream. image that happens to be image of an actor who played Jesus

Nigerians serve a god that resides in Israel and likes mount Horeb while they fervently wait and hope for "New Jerusalem". The book they believe in so much wasn't written by them to them or for them. those that wrote it didn't give a rat's ass behind about a small location off the coast of west Africa

If anything, the existence of a god that interferes and has a ready-made "plan" for a mortal's life would negate purpose and meaning. IMO, one must have agency to choose and fulfil a goal oneself, and that's pretty hard to do if there's some super-powered meddler pulling your strings.

DSDLIVEREPORT:


Don't trade your eternity for likes on NL

Don't trade your common sense for some imaginary afterlife

Hades2016:
this is one of us

Na so!

Austin53208:

oshey! werey dey!. idiota

Why call your god an "idiota"? I know your god isn't the sharpest tool in the shed but have some respect

Raylight2:
u have high fever? abi u typing under the influence of alcohol?

themosthigh is typing under the influence of common sense. You should try it too sir, you might like it

Spoilt4toto:
FOOOOOOL

Why call your god FOOL? I know your god isn't the sharpest tool in the shed but have some respect

wisdomkid:


This is blasphemy and totally wrong.
If it's on Islam now, your finger will be hard to press your nokia torch

Islam gets blasphemed on Nairaland too bro, visit Nairaland on Friday and see for yourself

Doerstech:


May Lord have mercy on you........

he's better off having his useless mercy on those that are starving, those that are suffering and dying everyday

dalaman:


They are more christians than Nigerians yet their lives style is completely opposed to what Jesus stands for abi?

1. Jesus was against divorce but Americans see nothing wrong with divorce. The divorce rate their is 50% and increasing. Meaning about half the marriages there end up in divorce.

2. Jesus taught and advocated for pacifism(turn the other cheek, love your enemies and other nonsense), majority of Americans do not believe, accept or follow that, in fact they feel Jesus is silly when it comes to that. They believe in their right to bear arms and use it on people that scare them not even attack them.

3. Jesus believed that Adam was the first man on earth. Majority of Americans believe humans evolved from hominid apes

4. Jesus says gay relationships are bad. Majority of Americans say Jesus doesn't know what he is saying because they approve of same sex relationships.

They're trying to eat their cake and have it, its a trick they pull and hope you don't call them out for it. This is what's called Ad hoc and post hoc

It basically involves defining something in a way that it is insulated from criticism then throw that definition in the trash when convenient

e.g "Christianity" on one hand makes the highest number of billionaires in the world and our apologists would grab unto that and use it to buttress a point

BUT when similar data collecting method shows Christians form the highest population of prison inmates in the world it becomes a problem, so the apologist is now left to define "Christian" in a way that excludes the inmates BUT it also becomes a problem as the new definition aka "Like Christ" but those Billionaires might've gotten their wealth by fleecing, paralegal and extralegal means but those are ignored

I've also noticed "Christians" here would claim Catholics aren't "Christians" when convenient but when they want to claim Christians are "billions" in the world those "Catholics" suddenly becomes "Christians". Kingebukasblog is famous for this

Like I've always asked people who pull the definitive form of Christianity, How can you KNOW someone else is a Christian?

Infact the point you just made here was what I was tryna make on the slavery thread by Superhumanist. I posted that any Christian against slavery isn't a " Christian" as Jesus was never against slavery but antispambot banned me and my post hidden

TayserMahiri:

As a side note: I hope you are not a christian/ religious person posing as an atheist to push this topic. I can feel it somehow. At the end of this thread you will "Come to the realization that the Holy Spirit + Jesus and his dad is the only true way to the meaning of life, because they promise immortality".

Seems we have the same suspicion. infact, that's why I didn't attend to this thread at all. Something tells me OP is a concern troll

OP, don't mind me though. I'm just passing by

hhh

Arondizuogu:
I seriously think that if someone wants to use DAS, he or she should be given that option.. some folks are living in chronic pain and discomfort.. I think it's a clean option for people who are capable of making such decisions...

Exactly! There's no intelligent argument against DAS or if there is I'm yet to hear it!!

I'm impressed by Gggg102 posts on this thread

I think Olaadegbu is not handling your questions well as he would've simply said Yahweh made an exception for Paul due to his (Yahweh's) sovereignty and probably has his reasons we are not privy to. This may not be satisfactory enough for a skeptic but still makes a truckload more sense than the rubbish Olaadegbu is spiling

walls01:


logic says if u feel like having sex have it just use condom. this as u know is false cause one will just have sex with anyone anytime. if but is put then it is no longer logic

Sex education preaches abstinence FIRST! and drums it up very well but also ends it by telling you that if the feeling becomes too much to bear and you feel you must act on it then use "Protection"
that was the type of SexEd I had and you, apparently, have your reservation with that, care to share?

dalaman:


Ogbeni shut up. You are a thief. Plagiarism is stealing. You are lifting someone else's intellectual property and passing it off as yours. You are notorious for that and it is wrong.

I am really not down with DAS per say. Only two conditions have made me support it because things are not always black or white. In the case of my late friend where his parents and my own mum prayed for him to die and the other case that made front page on nairaland of the guy with a tumor on his head where you could see his brain some years ago, the report had it that the guy was crying for the doctors to take his life because he was in endless pain and suffering from severe headaches always. I will support DAS in such cases because their situations were helpless and there was no cure that will save them. Ending their lives was the humane thing to do.

There are a lot of unethical issues associated with every thing in life so I really do not see why you are beating the drums on DAS as if it's the end of the world. Life should ALWAYS be preserved is a belief I hold deeply but in cases where the situation is hopeless and the person will suffer needlessly, putting an end to the persons life is sometimes the most humane thing to do. Things are not always black or white.

Nice!

Unadulterated Nonsense

walls01:


no, logic is man greatest asset but it has limit. children should be thought how to use it wisely not blindly

So you think teaching sex education to children means you're teaching them to use logic blindly?

Chochovini:
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I pity your sorry life. I don‘t tread words with demons as I said earlier. This is because I‘m not their mate neither is my God. Even the devil, your master knows this. Go ask him and clear your doubts.

Let your god speak for himself, why are you getting worked up over a god you claim is everywhere, sees all and is all powerful?

dalaman:

This man and plagiarism. You just can't and won't stop abi?
https://www.tfpstudentaction.org/blog/10-reasons-to-ban-assisted-suicide

LoL!!!!!!

dalaman:

This man and plagiarism. You just can't and won't stop abi?
https://www.tfpstudentaction.org/blog/10-reasons-to-ban-assisted-suicide

LoL!!!!!!

walls01:


sex education is thought with logic reasoning so also evolution. i spoke of similarities

So you're against using logical reasoning to teach children?

Gggg102:


in the first analogy there was no consent at all be it sincere, doctored or falsified.


in the other one, the caretaker would still have carried out his objective without das.

almost all systems can be rigged. does that mean the whole system be scrapped. also, I don't think the das would be made in a manner that it could be rigged.

I read the analogy and those are nonsensical argument and lots of reaching all to argue against DAS

1. The first analogy isn't DAS at all as there's no consent from the victim. DAS has no blame for that at all and would've happened with or without DAS in place. its a very useless analogy and an attempt to blame DAS for what is ,probably, already happening is akin to blaming Buhari for Natural Disasters that occur in USA

Also it should be noted that Oregon (who's laws on DAS are very sensible and I agree with majority of their DAS laws) prevents such from happening as:

A: the patient needs to ask for DAS 2x with at least 15days difference between both to be in consideration for DAS so in order for the doctor to forge the Docs he would have his work cut out as he would need to do a lot of forging and forge the time the patient was flown in which means he would need the cooperation of the emergency services that brought the patient, forge the receptionist register, forge a lot of other records which also includes things like CCTVs meaning he'll need cooperation of the whole security team to wipe out the CCTV, wipe the memory(ies) of whoever witnessed the accident.

B. The patient must provide a written request to his or her physician, signed in the presence of two witnesses. if he successfully surmounts A then he would need at least 2 accomplices to surmount this one

C. An external physician is required to come in and assess the situation too to confirm the diagnosis, prognosis and make sure the patient is aware of what he's requesting. "doctor organ transplant" needs to bribe the external physician or something to get past this hurdle


Let's be sincere with ourselves here, if a doctor is able to cross all these hurdles on his way to killing a patient then DAS's LEGALISATION WASN'T THE PROBLEM! the problem was far bigger than DAS and dare I say DAS actually protects the interest of the patient in this situation and makes "doctor organ transplant"'s job a lot more difficult than it would've if it weren't there.....



The second one also faces the same sets of problems and why would a care giver be aware he's awarding him his estate? this shows a leak either from the lawyer or the patient himself and what happened would've happened regardless of DAS being legalised or not



At the end of the day if these kind of stories are what they have against DAS then they're really not against DAS but are asking for stricter rules to avoid abuse which I think Oregon laws work well to prevent even though I think its still not perfect but its pretty close to perfection

All of them are imaginary friends

CAPSLOCKED:




THIS WILL BE VERY USEFUL IN NIGERIA.

DAS would be very useful everywhere so long they put reasonable laws in place like Oregon did to prevent abuse although Oregon's DAS laws could use some tweaking

dalaman:


Mr lie lie is already trying to make it about euthanasia when the topic is about DAS.

they've been barking up the wrong tree since this discussion started simply out of religious emotions mixed with ignorance while trying hard to sound logical (an impossible task). now they've seen the error of their ways and are stylishly trying to change the topic as they can't give any argument against DAS

MztaIkp:


All views should be respected

I disagree, no view should be respected. Views should be acknowledged, studied and scrutinised. that's how we progress and we've advanced so much. A lot of views that people held on dearly to in the past are now regarded as jokes due to scrutiny and probably ridicule. The only view that should be respected are views that are kept only private to its holder. If the holder presents it in public its open to scrutiny and possibly ridicule

dalaman:

A patient in comma can not tell a doctor to assist him to commit suicide. DAS is what we are talking about here.

Exactly! This is what I've been repeating but it seems I'm talking to a brick wall. DAS is the topic and DAS is different from Euthanasia even though they are similar in many ways

They're busy attacking a strawman

I don't think there's really any intelligent argument against DAS and I was hoping to see some that I never considered but its been unintelligent and ignorant arguments I've seen so far

dalaman:

A patient in comma can not tell a doctor to assist him to commit suicide. DAS is what we are talking about here.

Exactly! This is what I've been repeating but it seems I'm talking to a brick wall

They're busy attacking a strawman

Emmanystone:

Why then are the doctors suing for rights instead of the patients is what i'm asking?

Where did you get the info that doctors are the ones fighting for this right?

Gggg102:


doctors can only advice. they don't make decisions.

doctors are not seeking legal grounds to kill people with a weak recovery chance. they are not asking for power to decide if a patient lives or dies.

they are seeking legal grounds to kill patients that ask to be killed.


a doctor having a bad day and unplugging a patient commits murder.
doctor assisted suicide is done with the consent of the patient.

Let me add that I have a fairly good knowledge about DAS in certain US states and the doctor CAN'T act alone as there are checks and balances so having a bad day then killing a terminally I'll patient would land such a doc in hot soup