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homesteady:Haba, Homesteady you too? Objectivity is the key word bro. |
Isiterere:Guy, let's put aside sentiments and club affiliations for a minute and be objective for just 60 seconds. How can you say with the above that the EPL is overrated? Or has the meaning of the word overrated changed? No doubt the Spanish La Liga is more technical and has had more success in the UCL in recent times. But after La Liga which League comes next. Now we all know that Spain and England are not the only countries with leagues in Europe. How much success have the Italians, Germans or the French achieved? Where are the Dutch, the Portuguese or the Turks? Should we now say that Germany, Italy, Spain or Argentina are overrated in global football, simply because Brazil has won the World Cup more times. Give credit where it is due, even if grudgingly. The EPL is in no way overrated. |
Isiterere:You guys keep saying the EPL is overrated. I think you need to read this. It should probably change your opinion. https://www.nairaland.com/2207012/ucl-fallout-english-premiership-really |
laplace19:I can't see beyond these four teams for the semis. I hope Real Madrid can surprise me though. I'll be glad for them if they can get past Athletico. |
In the wake of the elimination of all the English Premier League clubs from the UEFA Champions League in the Round of 16, I have watched and read with amusement as several commentator have come to the conclusion that the EPL is over-rated and only thrives on marketability and hype without any attendant success in Europe’s biggest club competition. My amusement is based on the fact that these assertions seem a bit over-exaggerated as the facts on ground in recent times prove otherwise. To make my point I will focus on the Champions League in the last decade (2005-2014) with focus on the semi-finals and final stage. (Please note that 2005-2014 actually contains 10 seasons of the UCL, even though we are more like to think of a decade as being 2004-2014.) This season is yet to get to the semi-final stage so I will exclude it for now. The first point I will make is that in the period in review (2005-2014) three English teams have won the Champions League (Liverpool, 2005; Manchester United, 2008 and Chelsea, 2012) in comparison to two teams from Spain (Barcelona 2006, 2009, 2011; Real Madrid, 2014) and Italy (Milan,2007; Inter Milan, 2010), and one team from Germany (Bayern Munich, 2013). In other words, more teams from England have won the UCL compared to other leagues. Now let’s take a critical look at the teams that have played in the Champions League Finals between 2005 and 2014. Champions League Finals: English teams have played in 7 of the last 10 UCL finals with one being an all English final in 2008. (Liverpool, 2005, 2007; Arsenal, 2006; Man Utd, 2008, 2009, 2011; Chelsea, 2008, 2012). Compare that with Spanish teams who have played in only 4 finals in the last 10 with an all-Spanish final last season. (Barcelona, 2006, 2009, 2011; Real Madrid, 2014; Athletico Madrid, 2014) Or Italian and German teams who have both played in 3 finals in 10. (Milan, 2005, 2007; Inter, 2010) and (Bayern, 2010, 2012, 2013; Borrussia Dortmund, 2013) This clearly shows that teams from the EPL have been more consistent in getting to the UCL finals than every other league in the last decade. What about the semi-finals? Champions League Semi-finals: There has been an English team in 8 of the last 10 semi-finals in the UCL. However, the stats get even more interesting. There were 3 English semi-finalist in 3 consecutive UCL seasons within the period in review. 2007- Liverpool, Chelsea, Man Utd 2008 – Liverpool, Chelsea, Man Utd 2009 – Man Utd, Arsenal, Chelsea This was 3 seasons of dominance in the UCL by English teams which no one seems to remember. The most the Spaniards have been able to do is 2 Spanish teams qualifying for 4 consecutive semi-finals (2011-2014), but not 3. Summary: It is true that Spanish teams have been more successful in this period, winning 4 titles, while England have 3 titles. However, the Spanish La Liga’s successes are largely down to the exploits of Barcelona, buoyed by the amazing talent of the phenomenal Lionel Messi. On the three occasions that Barcelona have won the UCL title in the last decade, they defeated an English side in the final (Arsenal, 2006; Manchester United 2009, 2011) We must also understand that these things go around from time to time. In the early 90’s the Italian Serie A dominated the UCL, with 2 of their teams (Milan & Juventus) appearing in 6 consecutive finals between 1993 and 1998 winning twice. However, only Inter Milan has appeared in a UCL semi-final in the last 7 seasons. The EPL teams also had a run of 5 consecutive finals between 2005 and 2009, winning twice. Guess what, the Spanish La Liga teams are yet to have such a run even in the last two decades, despite winning the titles more times. Bayern Munich have practically flown the flag of the Bundesliga, with Schalke 04 being the only other semi-finalist in the period under review. France and Holland have only managed 1 semi-final each in this period (Lyon, 2010; PSV 2005). Greece, Russia, Turkey, Ukraine can at best boast of Quarter-final finishes. So, is the English Premier League over-rated after all? They may not have won as many UCL titles as the Spanish La Liga in the last decade, but they surely deserve a whole lot more than an “E” for effort.
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Personally, I'm just wondering why a model that worked well in the last elections is now being kicked against by the IGP. In 2011, we voted and waited for the results to be announced. The party agents were on hand to record the results. Several voters tweeted results from their ward online. Policemen and civil defence guys were present to observe and keep the peace. That election brought GEJ in and was adjudged to be largely free and fair with only a few violent skirmishes in some areas. Why does the IGP want to create unnecessary suspicion in the minds of voters now? Let the people stay and peaceful observe the votes count and hear the results at their ward. How difficult is that? |
Is it that they no longer teach comprehension and logic in Nigerian schools? God help your children. So because Alibaba gave his own personal insight into what he believes led to the initial growth of Nollywood, it now means his hating on the industry? Some dude here is even shouting tribalism. Seriously? Several industries in different parts of the world have gained from vices like drug money, racketeering, money laundering and what not. It's not unheard of. Even from as far back as the 80's, we've been hearing of cases of drug trafficking by entertainers in Nigeria. Like some people have stated here, yahoo boys have also contributed their quota. This is not news to those who know. |
Er, why so many women over 30? It's because girls were also born in the years preceding 1985. Mtschewww. Someone should correct this topic abeg. |
Er, is the PDP inadvertently admitting that they are corrupt? I don't think Kashamu will like this. |
lordthree:Choi, e pain am. |
Game ofa! |
fredoooooo:Yes, he comes in when the game is a lost cause. |
The short, resilient Brazilian is back. |
Falcoa to score no.4? |
pazienza:And Welbeck's goal was what? |
MrDojo:You seem to forget that your lead over United is presently 1 point. Now, knowing Arsenal... |
zigger:Fixed. |
michphenomena:Ehm bros, let's just put enough space between us and the likes of Spurs, Southampton and Liverpool. Champions league spot is okay for now. League? Maybe next year. |
lordthree:Abeg, pass for body. It's allowed. |
colossus2:Ntor! ![]() |
Rooney! Present sir! |
xynerise:Better late than never. ![]() |
mukina2:Take Benilyn to clear your cough. |
Jor o! |
caprini1:You nor get biro for there make you con sign am? ![]() |
mukina2:You nor go sekem? ![]() |
safarigirl:My dear NL don dey tire person these days. There's just too much political propaganda and idiocy on different levels. |
Optional2:You nor know your boyfriend name? |
safarigirl:Safarigirl! I was just wondering today where you had disappeared to. Abi na me miss for NL? |
[quote author=lorbah001 post=31618332][/quote]Can you see your ignorance. Do you know how many millionaires and billionaires never even make your so called Forbes list? And don't even give a rats a$$ about it? Poverty of the mind is the real problem here. |
lorbah001:And I'm guessing your own name is already on Forbes list abi. For your mind now being on Forbes list is life's ultimate achievement. Did Mandela make the Forbes list? Mother Theresa? Gandhi? Money may answer all things but it still didn't save Michael Jackson, Whitney Houston, Robin Williams and many more. Being successful in your chosen field is all that some people desire. |
E come be like say this Ivorians don get these Eagles pin code since U-17 o. Choi. Time still dey sha. |
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