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Volksfuhrer:
Well said!

Besides, boko haram could still capture these weapons and hand them over to other terrorist groups who could later use them against Americans.

America would not sell weapons to irresponsible buyers. Corruption and the lack of discipline in the Nigerian Army is not a hidden secret, yet we expect the US to still sell weapons to us. SMH...

I adore your contribution Bro, you can see beyond the obvious , that's admirable . If Mutalab had suceeded with the Bomb he tried to detonate, I am sure Nigeria would be in Chaos now, not because US will retaliate , but that single incident will create awareness for them, All terrorist groups would come through our porous borders and have a major base of operation in Nigeria and kill everybody .

Point is , US's FBI,CIA and other secret agencies are able project into the future and make deductions . Nigerian Army has been infiltrated selling a bomber to Nigeria means giving Nigerians death certificate , even if its Nigerians we can still be thankful, What if boko haram captures that Jet and attacks an unfriendly neighboring country just to start war which would help them reduce their workload on Nigerians, they'll use the war as cover and advance towards other parts of the country .

People complaining about US not selling should learn to reason , What an Elderly man sees when he lies down would be impossible for a kid to see even if he climbs a tall Iroko tree , Nigeria being the kid should learn to take advise and assistance from USA rather than wanting to have a weapon they can not control.

Loaning 1 drone from USA would be the end of Boko haram , but they won't do that because they want to chop out of the weapons money

The source lamented that the constant intervention from the political class and as well as barrage of criticisms from Amnesty International and other human rights groups affected military operations, citing how the former Chief of Army Staff (COAS) Lt-Gen. Azubuike Ihejirika was maligned for his aggressive approach, which was effective.

"The moment you are suspected and later confirmed of being a terrorist or their sponsors, you are gone. The moment you are aiding and abetting terrorism or found with weapons, you are gone within 12-24 hours because the military are being provoked.

"We no longer care about what the Amnesty international or politicians say. You cannot harbour criminals/terrorists that harm the country and expect the military to spare you", the source said early this week

Did someone just wake them up ? ? ?

Not saying its Ok to murder people in reprisals , but in every battle there's always collateral damage , Leave it at the barest minimum, it should not be a drive for vengeance, it should be a quest for liberating N.E Nigeria ,

And I still won't vote for GEJ

Its real, but in my opinion , these days people do not care about each other anymore these days to even allow them to think, fantasize or even dream about friends or family members who die .

i guess my point is Akudaya happens / is seen because people care , they get heart broken when they loose their loved ones , and that was a while ago

Leobreezy:
Some soldiers sent to Iraq themselves all opened up on ABC news that the real reason they were sent to Iraq was none other than oil. And if truly you get your news from different sources you surely should've come across reports and photos of inmates of Guantanamo Bay who are sexually harassed and tortured. Recently a guy was released from there after it was proven that the allegations of terrorism against him were false. So dude, the US is not the angel you think it is, it's just a devil in disguise.

Bros. I never said US is a saint. My argument is that Guantanamo bay is notorious but only notorious for torturing suspected and full blown terrorists . but in Nigeria every police station in Nigeria tortures suspects and criminals . Some soldiers , a group , one unit , one infantry check their names you'll find out that they are islamists .

I get your point. But whatabout real terrorists who have been cooperating with investigations ? Those are the ones who told US where to find bin laden ....

No terrorist is innocent suspected or not

gboss4sure:
In all words, It is right for the USA to provide arms to the rebels who commit different atrocities and also calls for the full islamization of Syria other than the Syrian president who under his leadership other religions such as Christianity thrives?

These same rebels are killing Christians in their country who are protected by Assad. Brother stop watching too much of CNN.

Was it not the same accusations they layed on Gaddaffi, Today we have seen what Libya has turned into. All thanks to the USA and its friends who wrecked libya

Syrian rebels =/ isis

Mogidi:
Locally made weapons to rout bokoharam with all the munitions bokoharam stole from army depots? This cements my belief that the military don't lack the weapons to fight, the muslims in the army sees this more like a religious war.

Eeegsatly my brother he he he.

gboss4sure:
So how do you explain why the USA is arming Syrian rebels, supplying arms with of billions per year to Saudi Arabia the No 1 human right abuser in the world? Explain what is moral about all these.

First question to your question is who are the Syrian rebels ?

Your answer. The Syrian opposition (Arabic: المعارضة السورية‎ Al-Mu'aradah Al-Suriyah) is an umbrella term for groups and individuals calling for regime change in Syria and who oppose its Ba'athist government. The term "opposition" (Arabic "mu'araDah" is typically used to refer to traditional political actors; that is, groups and individuals who have a history of dissent against the Syrian state, rather than to describe all participants in the uprising against Assad rule in Syria. The first structures to form in the Syrian uprising were local protest-organizing committees.

I assume say International relations Na something wey you sabi. Different countries get different objectives way go profit them by themselves. I bet that the Syrian government and its policies are so disgusting that rebels had to be formed . If locals resent the present government and that govt does not favor US's national objectives they can provide support. After all the choice for government wey make sense and freedom Na fundamental human right

Mogidi:
If army no get weapons take fight, which weapons the hunters use?

According to AFP, Yahoo, MSNBC ,CNN even Italian SKY news, Na locally made weapons them use o.

For my mind I reason am say boko boys don relax them no expect am. more so , the hunters sabi those boys probably because they don dey spy them taytay. Oyinbo call that process intelligence gathering

sauceny:
Sooooo,who's side are you on¿

I no use grammar nah you suppose understand say I dey USA side for this matter , FG has failed in protecting Nigerians. Soldiers dey leave armored tank and weapons boko haram , Boko haram dey enter police college for free nobody challenge them. If US allow that kin weapon/jet. some monkey fit leave am for their boko brudas and if everything wey hear Na true. Boko haram fit rent one Jihadist and jobless ex-Libyan pilot make he come use jet destroy other places for the country

He don clear you now ? There's no shame in asking nice bruv. One love

Mogidi:
According to you vigilantes routed bokoharam in Mubi yet the army with all its weapons can't, what does that tell you? When you muslims are ready to stop fighting let me know, meanwhile continue blowing yourselves up, no wahala.

You fail -f9 na im you score. I no be Muslim . You waka go off key after you fail finish . my point for my previous comment be say Army no try ...as in under Jonathan cos them know say all the money for weapons wey we dey hear Na some Oga to chop am. After all stealing no be corruption. And them dem get the liver to talk am say their religion no gree them kill their brothers because dem know say Oga Jona go pardon them . which one dey important pass ? Your religion and allegiance with terrorist abi your country ? That na the question I dey raise !!!

Mogidi:
Bros please check the meaning of good, objective, succinct and professional. If you knew the meaning you wouldn't use those attributes to describe a news outlet devoid of truth.

Chairman. I hail o!!!! Abeg yarn me. Wetin be the real truth ? And Wetin you think say be truth ?

Ilekokonit:
What an indictment of Jonathan.

Jonathan should come out and deny this if possible.

I'm not saying SR is an angel , naah no be like that but when SR dey wire APC serious koboko for news , even myself I say hahan what happin nah. Nobody talk say PDP bribe them ni .

Now way breeze dey blow Jona and PDP yansh ,them say them APC don sort them. Seriously a blind ,deaf,lame,dumb man know say Jona no try. Based on this analysis who dey arrange propaganda pass ?

I hear say na vigilante pursue BH from mubi when Army dey complain say weapon no dey . People dey say make peoples no dey yab jona. But if yansh spoil no be person way get yansh people to blame ?

Ilekokonit:
I have no time for pretending. Of course most current Nigerian Politicians of ALL parties are dirty criminals.

Of course Tinubu is a thief. But Tinubu is not Nigeria's President at the moment and if he were, I would call him a criminal as well. Which he is anyway.

I support Buhari for his honesty but if APC were to bring Tinubu out as their flag bearer, I would NEVER vote for him and if Buhari were to be picked as PDP presidential candidate, I would vote PDP just because of Buhari's presence there.

But at the moment, it is clear to the whole world that Jonathan is as Corrupt as they come giving rise to a Weekly Conservative British Magazine stating amongst other things that "The Nigerian Govt Is Corrupt And Useless"

https://www.nairaland.com/1976406/boko-haram-proves-nigerian-govt#27624532

I agree with everything here bro. You have talked the talk because you know the Know . the only objection I have ( my opinion, I respect yours) is if buhari was PDP. I wouldn't vote him cause it'll be same old shit in a different shalanga. Under PDP Buhari can not perform ,lest he be assassinated . PDP screwed Nigerians to where we are today its the obvious truth ,One Buhari in the midst of power hungry , greedy and desperate members will be like hacking down a very big tree with a blade. They will gang up and make it look like he's (Buhari) is doing nothing

Caseless:
u believed this trash sold to u by the americans. Even as the world has realised d aim behind d invasion, u ar stil here in ur illusion. U even justify guantanamo bay. U need help.

What's this one saying ?

You no sabi where this yawa begin you carry aproko come dey insult pesin .

Maybe its the world who is blinded by jealousy and hate , maybe its the world who is blinded by fury.

I'm not saying US govt is perfect I'm saying they don't fumble about bullying other smaller nations

WTC was bombed wasn't it ?
Osama/Al quida claimed responsibility
Some nations were celebrating the horrible incident while some scampered in fear for they know what will come

What most people say is America went to Iraq for oil. How many times have you read that a bunker delivered crude to US borders even till date ?
So think about it . and for your info I read different versions of news and opinions before drawing my conclusions

Google.it Google.co.uk , Google.fr ,Google.com.es , Google.il , Even Google Saudi USA can not control all the search engines in the world. Of course there will be cry babies saying every move US makes is wrong , You don't go around dancing fire hoping not to get burnt

Google : countries celebrate 9/11 or Saddam Hussein IED or All queida IRAQ. You would see that several factors amounted to invasion of Iraq not oil

shadelek:
and you are trying every possible means to destroy GEJs administration but you will surely fail. the man is nt clueless, he knows what to do. soon now, it will be ASUU suspends their proposed strike plan. GEJ rules

Better hide your comment before people borag you here

Nigerian Islamist militants seized the northeastern town of Chibok where more than 200 schoolgirls were abducted by the insurgents in April.

Boko Haram took over the town after a battle with Nigerian forces and vigilantes yesterday, Ayouba Pogu, a community spokesman, said by phone from Maiduguri, the Borno state capital. Pogu received the news from residents who fled Chibok after communications were cut as the militants probably destroyed phone masts in the town, he said.

The Chibok abductions by Boko Haram, whose name roughly translates to “Western education is a sin” in the Hausa language, drew international condemnation. The group has killed more than 13,000 since 2009 in its campaign to install Islamic rule in Africa’s largest economy, President Goodluck Jonathan said in September.

The abducted schoolgirls have converted to Islam and were “married off” to militants, a man claiming to be Boko Haram’s leader Abubakar Shekau, said in a video released Oct. 31 to reporters.

PhockPhockMan:
Either you're a serious supporter of boko haram or you need a A BRAIN INJECTION. Which America are you talking about? The one that established a torture Island called Guantamo Bay, massacred several thousand innocent people in Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iraq etc, in their search for imaginary chemical weapons, terrorists and ultimately, Bin Laden. The invasion of Iraq without United nation isn't it a violation of human rights? We should not fall for America's old tricks of hiding under human rights violations to commit crimes. We all know the kind of evil state of Israel is committing on regular basis in middle east, yet, America remains their biggest supporter and biggest arms suppliers. What of Pakistan and Saudi Arabia, despite reported human rights violations in those countries, America supplies them arms.
The bottom line is that America is not comfortable seeing the emergence of a strong African nation, economically, militarily and otherwise. Unfortunately for them, Nigeria is a moving train.

Oga, Boko haram and Brain Injection no rhyme together and you don use your comment fall your hand, Guantanamo Bay wey you talk .. have you been there ? ? ? I am willing to wager top dollar that your information is from movies , Guantanamo bay is supposed to be a CIA black site, military prison for very violent terrorists , Unlike in Nigeria where every police cell is Guantanamo bay , Where SARS and Police torture people with hot pressing iron, cutlass and co.

Information can be corrupted , especially when it leaves the source, As at the time of Invasion U.S.A Believed the information they had about weapons of mass destructions and IEDs are really in Iraq , If it wasn't the then's Government's alliance with terror, if they had cooperated in Iraq , USA probably wouldn't have invaded , and if you do read news , you would discover that the information about weapons of mass destruction and IED was from a very reliable and credible CIA/FBI source, Negotiations with the President in Iraq back then failed , The Oval office had no choice than to invade to protect the lives of the people and the American bases there in Iraq , And UN was involved in the Invasion contrary to your claim.


In March 2003 the United States government announced that "diplomacy has failed" and that it would proceed with a "coalition of the willing" to rid Iraq under Saddam Hussein of weapons of mass destruction the US insisted it possessed. The 2003 invasion of Iraq began a few days later

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Security_Council_and_the_Iraq_War.


Whatever Evil Israel is committing, please share your sources otherwise everything you have written is about your hate for America and your Love for terrorism . United States will not Invade if there are no credible reasons , according to Wiki , Saddam Hussein did not agree to allow UN inspectors into the country to check / verify the truth about the information USA had recieved , he was stalling them

Saddam Hussein was allowing / protecting al-Qaeda operative Abu Musab al-Zarqawi known terrorist who was involved with WTC bombings .

If USA is the worst human right violator , Why hasn't Iran been invaded ?? , abi them too don't have Nuclear Plants from where they plan to manufacture Nuclear bombs IRAN went as far as preventing satellites from being able to take pictures of some of thier Installations on ground, why hasn't Iran been bombed yet ??

My brother , US is the world's big brother , it never does anything to violate people , except the Bad ones , Compared to some powerful people in Nigeria , US as a country has a very clear conscience and clean record

Vessi:
Is this the revolution I've been smelling?

your nose network na Thuraya

sholatech:
Think I'm lost...the Cobra helicopters are to be bought as stated, or leased? We wanted to buy with our money and someone worried we cant maintain them? How ma y cars have we been buying from Us- we dont maintain them and we still buy them regularly!

Exactly ! When that oil runs dry its gonna be a problem and nigeria would have probably oppressed lots of other nations that would want to have a piece back .


Exactly ! but how many Tear nylons did you buy in person ? Can you swear to God that there's never been a time when you ought to buy brand new tires but couldn't afford it so went for tokumbo ? If you bought test nylon cars from US trust me maintanance will be your watchword .

bandisandi:
They raised two reasons for not selling weapons to Nigeria.
1: Nigeria military has been abusing the natural human rights of these terrorists
2: Nigeria military lacks the technical-know-how to handle the so called sophisticated weapon..

MY REPLY
1- why should soldiers respect their right when they themselves are denying others the ultimate right toLIFE. I say to hell with their rightz.
2- How sophisticated can a weapon be that people won't know how to use it Are they judging level of intelligence by skin colour
In short, US is doing these because they still felt hurt about how Nigeria was not transparent with them when they imported expertise and services to Nigeria. It dents a great blow on their reputation that the almighty US Can't locate and rescue kidnapped girls in the forest.
TOO BAAAAD!!!

Your argument makes no sense Bro. Unlike Nigeria where people take pride in Aluu4 ,jungle justice , where human life and human right means nothing to anyone The US actually cares about safety and lives of its citizens and human right . Soldiers signed waivers during training and they get paid for the risks. Human rights watch did not complain about soldiers violating the rights of terrorists they complained about soldiers murdering innocent people .like a video where a man in military fatigue beheaded 6 suspected terrorists with his cutlass and they put them in a mass grave

Operating some weapons is not just load and cock and aim. Command bases , video streaming of live events , military satelites and every other factors work together for decision making in advanced countries . Also Most aeronautic engineers are mostly engineers by degree not by experience , What's the problem with Nigeria ? Maintenance culture. You buy you use you abandon . Furthermore if some members of the Nigerian army came out to say they cant shoot their brothers in Islam and they happily handed over weapons and armored tanks. That jet in the wrong hands is a disaster for Nigeria as a whole


I guess my point is that the USA has the moral and psychological obligation not to provide a weapon of mini mass destruction to Nigeria as long as barbarians are still in charge , and as long as soldiers are defecting to boko haram camps .

I smell fraud, Why not copy the content or at least a part of it rather than send people to other blogs ? ? ? Good heading, No point

[size=15pt]More Money , Mo problem,

But money is good, no matter what cos money solves problem [/size]

emmyrichie:
Mr. Bullit! I am not trying to scam nobody if you must know. We are an International Business Consultant located at suite 1, 4th floor, left wing, City Plaza, Plot 596 Ahmadu Bello way, Garki II Abuja.

This add is from us, it is ours, other companies may use it too, but this is from us. We were consulted to market the products.

If you can't afford it, others can. Our contact infos are there, kindly pay us a visit or call or email us for further education.

Thanks!

OK I believe you. But who's we ? We are international blablabla office got no name ? you can sell 18m car but you didn't provide a webpage or email where you can be contacted ? I still stand on my previous point though I think posting an ad for a 18M car in a page for mourning a soldier who can't afford it with 3 year savings is insensitive

emmyrichie:
Good night in the morning gallant soldier. May the heavens open its arms and embrace you.


For affordable bullet proof suvs pls visit www.nairaland.com/1985526/brand-new-bulletproof-cars-sale

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Affordable bullet proof SUV @ ~19M and you get the mind to put am for page dedicated to mourning fallen soldier ? You no try

Furthermore that ad is from Texas armoring and you made no reference to TAC are you trying to scam people ?[/size]

Amanwulu1:
K

Catch you !!

eph12:
Loving someone and having sexual urge are two different things and are not related in any way.

Sex is the ritual that solidifies feelings of love. Love is I complete without sex

Pataki:
You are a nairaland patience jonathan-boko haram.

Keep on shooting your 'shakabula' on this forum!

More grammatical bullets to your gun please!!

OLODO!

Go and find a dictionary and check out the meaning of "mediocracy". You are typing words far above your intellectual acumen.

Bros ,abeg, free the guy because simple grammar he can not spoke

[size=18pt]While i feel pains Jona's loyalists do , I do believe they wont be hoping to break away if there was no crude oil , selfishness of the highest order as if its not the shoeless guy from Otuoke who failed to spend money for them [/size]

[size=20pt]Personally, i do not believe this Mumu, Saturday wey go sweet , na friday them dey know , several years and he couldn't end BH , he can't end it in his second term, and that makes me remember a comment on facebook that BH was created by PDP, just like the 2nd or 3rd season in 24 , You create terror, you end it , you become a hero , except that this terror evolved into a monster they can't control [/size]

Emma3030:
Is Aregbesola not the man that said jihad is part of Islam ,,,I mean is he shading tears that jihadist he openly supported go for their normal Islamic duty?

[size=22pt]Mumu Bros , No vex say i call you mumu, na una type dey start gbege and misunderstanding, intentionally telling half of the story to support your argument Guess what, O ti Lana

Yes Aregbesola said Jihad is part of Islam, but he also said Jihad is not a call to harms or a reason to kill innocent people , At least he shed crocodile tears, Mumu at the Top is dancing Azonto somewhere else .Meanwhile for the past 1 week or so , bombs have been resounding every part of the north all Jona can think of is new 100 naira note and political ambition [/size]

Osun State governor, Rauf Aregbesola reportedly said there is nothing wrong with Jihad, describing it as an Islamic concept that seeks to promote the establishment of a personal relationship with Allah by Muslims.


The Punch reports that Mr. Aregbesola decried the total misunderstanding of Jihad to mean war or violence.
Aregbesola said, “Jihad should not be turned into a license to unleash terror on people, Muslims and Christians alike and as well as to destabilise the nation.

“Contrary to the claims by groups such as the Boko Haram sect, Jihad is neither a call to arms nor an ideological blueprint for destructive insurgency. Jihad in Islam is at its core about establishing a personal relationship with Allah. The meaning of Jihad in Islam is a total submission to the will and obedience to the laws of Allah.

“Submitting to Allah’s will is an act of conscious choice granted to mankind by God; obeying His laws is a demonstration and vindication of that submission.

“They abused notion of Jihad often used as justification for satanic atrocities of insurgent groups, such as the Boko Haram sect, is a gross misapplication of the concept.


“Jihad is far from being an open cheque for senseless violence, neither is it a Qur’anic endorsement of the pursuit of selfish political desires.
“The concept of Jihad in Islam simply means ‘struggle’ or ‘striving.’

It has two broad dimensions – external and internal striving.”


He argued that Boko Haram and other insurgent groups had no justification in Islam to back the violence they unleashed on the people.
He added, “If Islam thus forbids violence against innocents, how does Boko Haram justifies the senseless killings, maiming, kidnappings of innocent women, children, and girls?”

http://pulse.ng/gossip_celebrity_nigeria_religion/osun-governor-aregbesola-says-there-is-nothing-wrong-with-jihad-id3221522.html

http://leadership.ng/news/388204/jihad-synonymous-violence-aregbesola

http://www.punchng.com/news/aregbesola-backs-jihad-opposes-bharam/

http://thenationonlineng.net/new/dont-equate-jihad-with-violence-says-aregbesola/

http://blog.informationng.com/2014/10/there-is-nothing-wrong-with-jihad-ogbeni-rauf-aregbesola/

Everybody knows that the real politicians who care just a little bit about the masses are no longer in PDP , just thugs,murderers,drug barons and the untouchable elites running the country Nice move Tambuwal welcome to your salvation

ABUJA (Reuters) - President Goodluck Jonathan promised Nigerians on Tuesday he would fight corruption and defeat the Islamist Boko Haram insurgency as he announced his bid to win a second term at the head of Africa's biggest economy in a February election.

A southern Christian president heading Africa's top oil producer, Jonathan is seen as a strong incumbent despite a raft of multi-billion-dollar oil scandals and his government's inability so far to end the five-year-old insurgency waged by Boko Haram, mostly in the Muslim north.

"After listening to the clarion call of Nigerians, I have accepted to present myself to serve a second term," Jonathan told cheering supporters at a rally in the capital, Abuja.

His widely expected announcement was a formality after he had already picked up nomination papers from his ruling People's Democratic Party (PDP) last month, signaling his intent to run.

Jonathan is seen as favorite because elections in the oil-dependent nation are fought more on the basis of political patronage than on policy. He will also be helped by a divided opposition which is still to chose his main challenger.

But he faces fierce criticism at home and abroad for failing to rein in corruption and guarantee security for all Nigerians.

Jonathan's announcement came a day after a suspected Boko Haram suicide bomber attacked a school in the northeast town of Potiskum, killing at least 48 people.

The president said Boko Haram, which has announced the creation of an Islamic caliphate after capturing territory in the remote northeast, had cast a dark cloud over the country.

DAILY ATTACKS

A ceasefire with the group unilaterally announced by his government last month has failed to stop almost daily attacks, which have included the mid-April abduction by Boko Haram of more than 200 schoolgirls from a northeastern town.

"We will surely get our daughters freed and defeat terror in our country," Jonathan said.

Despite pledges of help from the United States, Britain, France and Israel in the war against Boko Haram, there are fears that violence will increase in the run-up to the February vote as political tensions heighten ethnic and religious differences.

Jonathan's government has also come under pressure to prop up the local naira currency which has fallen over 6 percent this year due to a decline in oil prices for the crude exports on which the country depends.

The sharp drop in global oil prices has raised the twin specters of a potential currency devaluation and budget shortfalls but analysts have said it is unlikely the currency will be devalued before the election.

Jonathan's administration has also faced accusations of not doing enough to stamp out endemic corruption, including billions of dollars of oil revenues that have been reported missing.

"Corruption is one of the major stains in our country," Jonathan said, promising to prosecute corrupt officials.

In the ranks of the main opposition All Progressives Congress, the top contenders for the presidential ticket next year are former military ruler Muhammadu Buhari and recently defected vice president Atiku Abubakar, both Muslim northerners.

In 2011, Buhari's defeat at the hands of Jonathan triggered three days of bloodshed that left 800 dead and 65,000 displaced.

(Additional reporting and writing by Bate Felix in Lagos; Editing by Pascal Fletcher and Giles Elgood)


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Source http://news.yahoo.com/nigerias-jonathan-says-seek-second-term-february-2015-131515999.html